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doesnt matter because if it is they arent going to blow it on some kid buying drugs online or laundering his 200k kek

>>24468995
if the feds openly come out and say they can't trace something, then I'm lead to believe they can absolutely trace it.

Kek this thread is glowing.
Sage.

>>24469021
Pretty much... you will definitely get on a list and your activities will map whatever they’re interested in though

>>24468995
No it's just a worthless shitcoin that's already reached its ath, and will now just sag down to curio prices.

>>24468995
if it is then why wont coinbase list it?

>>24469047
Same here

The office of naval intelligence helped fund tor, but the feds claim they can't track people on it. I find it difficult to believe the navy would allow tor to be released into the wild if they knew it could be used by the chinks to communicate incognito

If the feds say they cant trace monero then they definitely can

>>24468995
It's the femboy coin.

>>24468995
It's secure against private entities, but to avoid the popo you probably want to run your currency through multiple privacy coins, not just XMR

Its untraceable and the goyment is seething.

>>24468995
No
nigger it's all open source, just go read the fucking code
they even chose a curve that specifically wasn't designed by NIST

>>24469186
why hasnt it been used in any court cases then?

the military funded tor

>>24469177

>>24469400
>blowing your cover just to win a court case

>>24468995
They want it gone, thus the $600k+ bounty for cracking a multi billion dollar project. They're hoping some poorfag will look at it and go "woooooaaaahhh, $600k?! That's a looooooot of moneeeeeyyy! I don't care if the government takes the billions, I get six figures!!!!!!"

>>24469177
Ok. Good point.

no, and if you understood the cryptography behind it you would understand why

>durp we cracked ringct hurp
ok so i guess HTTPS is also backdoored and AES is broken, hope you have nothing encrypted anywhere then

>>24469400
They will blow the cover on Tor only for the highest-profile cases concerning the national security of the US itself.

Same with most of their secret military tech. They will not reveal their power level and show the good stuff unless they absolutely have to.

E.g. afaik they should be in possession of plasma railguns.
>The project's initial success led to it becoming classified, and only a few references to MARAUDER appeared after 1993. No information about the fate of the project has been published after 1995.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>24470036
>The first MARAUDER experiment was motivated by RACE
based.

>>24470036
nah. the us is good at bombing brown people who live in caves in the desert. the us is NOT good at breaking advanced encryption protocols that have been tested by academics who have no lives outside of testing the security of encryption protocols. it's mostly safe, also TOR is open source, they could only ever run poisoned nodes to attack it

>>24470036
The plasma projectiles would be shot at a speed expected to be 3000 km/s in 1995 and 10,000 km/s (3.3% of the speed of light) by 2000. A shot has the energy of 2,27 kg of TNT exploding. Doughnut-shaped rings of plasma and balls of lightning exploded with devastating thermal and mechanical effects when hitting their target and produced pulse of electromagnetic radiation that could scramble electronics, the energy would shower the interior of the target with high-energy x-rays that would potentially destroy the electronics inside.

>They will not reveal their power level and show the good stuff unless they absolutely have to.
This also means that on TOR the druggies, organized crime and transmission of trade secrets etc. are likely save. They need these users to bait nation state actors into thinking that the tech is good.

>>24470036
This is a cool LARP and all but Monero is a two billion dollar network. With Tor, your incentive as a private individual is maybe being able to see other people's browsing habits idk. With Monero, if you break it's privacy millions of dollars are potentially on the table. That attracts a whole different breed of greedy, people who will constantly analyze it for potential attack vectors because the reward is worth it.

>>24470199
>That attracts a whole different breed of greedy, people who will constantly analyze it for potential attack vectors because the reward is worth it
Luckily they should are smart enough to know the game theory of their attacks.

>>24470036
a lot of people have made plasma rail guns. this is old technology. desu i had a small one once.

>>24470199
If people's Moneros start disappearing, the value of the entire project goes to zero.

Much like Tor the feds likely do have a way to trace it but it's inconvenient, resource intensive, and generally not neccesary.
If the glowies wanted to show you laundering they'd just say "Coinbase says 200k of Monero suddenly appeared in your account, care to explain this". No trace needed and no judge on earth will side when you say "I lost it in a boatng accident"

Folks, I want to hear your reviews about one platform: duckdao.io

Came across their Hunter Season on Twitter, this is a kind of crypto game and platform with investment instruments. They made long-term partnerships and Foundation for modern blockchain-based systems.

Smooth brains don't seem to see how such weak fud only makes people who really understand the technology bullish af on monero.
Wait until all the people normies who are going to enter the crypto space realise all their Internet magic beans aren't anonymous and are traceable.
Shit will moon and xmr unironically isn't even a moonboy coin, top 20 mc and people still think of it only as a "pedo coin"
After btc and eth, xmr has the biggest usecase in crypto imo

This thread is full of weak ass FUD, suck my dick glowies

>>24471607
Monero always brings them.

>>24469247
So its basically elliptic curves and thats the whole technology? Im not a cryptography expert but considering the feds have been using elliptic curves forever i kind of am inclined to believe they have some sort of next gen babackdoor

>>24472100
not eliptic curves but the algorithm chosen with certain parameters can be doored if the parameters are chosen maliciously. which is why people dont want to use the NIST standard ECDSA because nsa chose the constants in it

>>24471607
Lol
>>24471603
You know it

>>24471607
The real glowies are the ones shilling Monero

>>24469047
They can trace everything. Most hardware have backdoors. As well as Linux.

You dumb zoomers sure are funny.
ABC agencies have backdoors absolutely everywhere: in your CPU, in your router, in your ISP and finally in your OS.

If they want to track a Monero transactions they don't need to break the cryptography, they just need to use metadatas from one of their thousands of backdoors.

If it was, it would be trading in my country.
I'm from Brazil, and the people here are (generally) very, very stupid. The government is also absolutely stupid, so you can guess why monero is not sold here.

>>24469177
coinbase doesn't want to list pedocoins

Windows 10 has a backdoor. If they want to know anything they will know it. Nothing can be hidden. This phone I'm typing on has a camera and the camera is open 24/7 even if I haven't opened it.

Lads, privacy doesn't exist. If you buy drugs obviously they won't go after you, but if they wanted to you'd get caught within a day or two, it's not that complex. And Linux is a meme

And fuck jannies

>>24471603
>xmr has the biggest usecase in crypto imo
by far, biggest fear for everyone is the feds

>>24474582
>Linux is a meme
what about Tails?

>>24469047

https://www.globalcryptopress.com/2020/09/top-privacy-coin-monero-not-private-any.html

>>24474661
fud, if they could do it they wouldn't dick swing about it

XMR is one of the only cryptocurrencies that is actually used daily as a currency

>>24474338
That is correct, but I'm still skeptical to trace monero 100%, they will have hell and will never be exact. I think once the cash desapear it will be prosecuted in other ways like by law pushing the price higher and also its use in black market. the only thing that could fail is if they hunt the miners as well, so I would go pos for a monero 2.0.

>>24474711
>XMR is one of the only cryptocurrencies that is actually used daily as a currency

That means nothing.

Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Dash, Litecoin, Smartcash (in Brazil) is also used.

>>24474711
what about hunting miners and prohibit it by law enforcement. How do you think we will be able to use it or exchange it ?

>>24468995
do you homework and read the ring sign feature. also read what is Open Source. Nice try anyway, go back to play with your drones asswhole.

>>24474839
Monero banned from traders is step 1.

>>24475062

>>24468995
One of the actual good cryptos.
If you want to see a nice example look at
minko DOT to, its a plinko gamble site using monero

>>24468995
it isn't. but it is overpriced and should be held.

glitch
https://glitch.finance/Glitch-whitepaper-2020.pdf

>>24474876
It may ultimately not need to be exchanged.