/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24336990
No. You need to pull it together anon cause it sounds like you're projecting your own issues on people who have nothing to do with you. Don't be mean.

>>24337040
Ignore this fag, fuck poor people, I grew up poor too and I'm at least doing something about it, most poor people deserve it

>>24336990
What you're resenting are poor people who were never aware enough to understand their situation and how to get out of it. To give in to your lot in life is contemptible, especially when you live in a society with social mobility. With social mobility evaporating in the Western World, those who overcome can feel even more superior to their contemporaries.

>>24337096
I think it's just that I hate low IQ people, and most poor people are dumb (obviously there are exceptions).

I want to become a part of the wealthy, upper class, high IQ, rich people jew club or whatever they have

>>24337174
>social mobility evaporating in the Western World,
Why do you think this is? College getting more expensive?

>>24337174
Anon here who hasn't made it yet, this is very much the way I feel about it, I've come to have a burning hated for complacency in myself which has also extended externally to others. There are times when I spot things that are obviously giving family or friends grief / potential money pits they could easily pull themselves out of. But when you ask them what they were planning to do, it almost always results in a nothing statement, when you give these people suggestions they just give a blank fucking stare back, it makes me want to call them a loser to their face.

>>24336990
Might be because you know most of them have a crabs-in-a-bucket sort of relationship with you via the political system, and that many of them just want to drag you down rather than pull themselves up. Thanks to politics/democracy there is no real boundary between you and them... If you try and help them you might expect it to work out like saving a drowning man who then proceeds to dunk you underwater as if you were an animate life raft. Things don't have to be zero-sum but politics will make it seem like that's the only way it can play out.

If they were not capable of harming and dragging you down, at least through degrading society/the culture as a whole and thus diminishing your enjoyment of being a member of this civilization, what reason would you have to dislike them?

>>24337366
*inanimate

>>24336990
You should only resent them if they turn commie, bro

>>24336990
It's called cockiness, it's cured by hardships and reversal of fortune.

>>24337241
Kinda. College was never a means for upwards social mobility. The stories of people getting jobs because they had a college degree in anything were from a time when it was actually valuable, and only available to the upper class. Since they sold college as being the only means to upwards social mobility, everyone got a college degree, which diluted the value to the point that most college degree programs do not net any benefit to those who acquire one.

People think college is a means to upward social mobility, but rather, it's a just a perk of being in a upper social class. Making it available to everyone didn't create opportunity for poor people, it gave them a fantasy which led many into debt. The increased cost of college is just a side effect of all this.

>>24337366
Very based analysis anon
I want nothing more than for my children and grandchildren to live in a world where they don't have to experience the loathing you describe. A world free from parasitism.

>>24336990
on the one hand I definitely believe growing up poor warps your development and faculties permanently, making it harder for the rest of your life as a functioning adult to pull yourself out of the pit you started in, relative to a person who grew up well off and then became poor later on. In that sense, I have nothing but sympathy for many poors, because they do have it immeasurably harder.

On the other hand, I just despise them on an aesthetic level. This gets exponentially stronger as my net worth grows. Passing by trailer parks, panhandlers, etc, witnessing poor people being poor just fills me with visceral revulsion now. The worst are the homeless, sleeping on stoops, rolling around their shopping carts fulls of trash, shambling about looking like soggy pieces of trash themselves. I wish someone would firehose them into a fucking gutter where they'd disappear and never come back.

I guess with my wealth my expectation is that I can begin to afford a lifestyle without grime, dirt, decay, etc. Seeing poors being poor probably reminds me of the inevitability of entropy and decay on a long enough time scale, which is why it enrages me so much. All our bodies end up as worn out pieces of trash in the end, no matter how much money we use to buffer ourselves from it.

Still though, fuck poors.

>>24337365
I tried telling my parents there is 0 reason to ever purchase a new vehicle unless you're rich. They argued with me about how a new vehicle is so much more reliable and stuff. They act like a few years old used vehicle would be a rust bucket or something.

>>24337679
If I knew what I knew now, I would have got a 1997 toyota camry or something like it.

>>24337217
You will never be at the top of club. Prepare to get raped though if you try to join them. These people OWN people who want to be part of their club

>>24337566
yes I have read "The God That Failed" my fellow aristocrat

>>24337679
pretty silly given how most used cars for sale have such detailed records now, and it's not like buying from greaseball salesman forty years ago where you are just taking his word that it's not a lemon... There's having detailed information for each make and model too, which didn't exist in the past.

i dont get this site, why would you waste time hating people who presumably did nothing wrong yet

>>24337217
u want to be a pedophile is what you are saying sounds like u want to fuck poor peoples kids lmao

>>24337778
Yeh. You're trying too hard OP, nobody will ever fucking respect you and you talk exactly like a guy I know who boasted their supposed net worth to everybody and went on to put a lien on their house the next year.

>>24336990
>>24337096
yes i also grew up poor, its one if the reasons im so focused on money now. I always hated poor people though, just never realized why until i was older.

Why is there so much reddit spacing in this thread and why is it just being ignored?
Go back

>>24337841

>>24336990
Perhaps is not hating poor people. Maybe you hated being poor and are projecting, in fear of being poor again.

It's a fact that people tend to avoid the unhappy and unlucky because they tend to drag you down. It doesn't mean all people are, maybe rich people identify the poor in this category, I don't know.

>>24337904
>REDDIT SPACING!

>>24337621
i dont give a fuck bout poor or homeless people but how you sound makes me want to violate you just bash you with my fists an elbows and rob u take everything u hold deer and cum in it

>>24336990
You sound like a bitch, even more so considering your arrogance is from money made off of crypto and not any actual admirable endeavor. The only thing separating you and the rest of the pool people was that you were a nerd that was into tech and video games enough to consider gambling into the right crypto when nobody knew anything about it.

You basically sound like you are 12, got rich accidentally like all those rap music stars, and have to act like you are hot shit to quell your lingering insecurities of being born and raised poor and uncouth. If you weren't insecure, poor people wouldn't be living in your mind rent free.

>>24337936
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>>24337957
>even more so considering your arrogance is from money made off of crypto and not any actual admirable endeavor.
Like what? Most rich people today came from wealth/inherited it, or made their riches off exploiting lower class people.

Seethe more poorfag.

>>24337981
>>24337957
Pretty much all rich people were in the right place at the right time. Your reductionism is cope.

Seethe.

>>24336990
Poorfag here, I can sympathise with that perspective a little bit because I can understand that when you “make it” you want to establish distance between who you were and who you are now. It’s natural to hold a little animosity towards a reminder of who you used to be, but you shouldn’t let that dictate how you treat poor people.

>>24337803
Yea and the thing is they've bought me 2 used cars, which I'm thankful for. I just can't comprehend spending so much money for new cars when you could spend it on anything else if it's a "waste".
>>24337841
It's their entire attitude that I hate. Spending money on drugs and lottery tickets. I worked at a gas station and my coworkers would end up spending a solid hour or two's worth of their pay on snacks while they were at work. It's just their general stupidity and complacency that I hate. Also what the hell happened to dressing nice? 100 years ago people wore suits out to a cafe, and now we have morons wearing pajamas.

>>24338014
One of the best pieces of advice I got growing up is that success is a matter of luck, but hard work weights the dice in your favour. Boomer-y, to be sure, but it checks out from personal experience.

>>24336990
yes. I was poor in 2018 and am still poor according to /biz standards, but poor people just deserve it. If they had enough IQ and willpower, they wouldn't be poor.

>>24337904
>npc calling others npc
you're so close yet so far

Eh, poor people are more openly loathsome than the rich. They make bad choices. They do drugs they can't afford. They complain about their worthless job but do nothing to fix it. Rich people wear an air of competence but they're all pedophiles, hedonistic, Jewish, etc. Everyone is the same, just expresses their vices in different ways.

>Got rich overnight by luck
>"Man fuck everyone that isn't like me!"
Poor people that consistently make retard choices infuriate me, but I respect for anyone actively trying to better their situation. Once someone has wealth it just shows you what kind of person they are by how they view their wealth and what they do with it.

>>24338014
>6 posts by this id trying to convince others he's not like the other trailer trash poors
cope, and post body tranny

End me.

I'm poor and black and absolutely detest poors and blacks

>>24337778
>>24337869
>>24337957
Here come the bucket crabs

>>24337981
>>24338014
What are you talking about, being opportunistic is only part of the equation, you cant reduce everyone success just to winning the lottery just because that was basically what you did. Most of the wealthiest people today created something. Your view of the world, and the fact that you are the one accusing me of being reductionist (lol) just solidifies my belief that you are just too immature to have any real humility.

The fact that you automatically revert to telling me to seethe because you think I am a poorfag is also another sign of your insecurities. I have said nothing to indicate my wealth, but that is the first thing that you try to attack because you have nothing else to stand on other than the money from crypto. I don't even have to call you names because everyone can tell from the way you post that you are very insecure. In fact I am beginning to think that you are probably a troll in which case I am feeling charitable enough to give you some yous.

>>24338319
That shit kinda saddens me, A lot of those hood booger types seem to think life is just about fucking and fighting half the time. No goals or aspirations, just getting older on the same front porch.

>>24337217
>most poor people are dumb
>you pay for their lifestyle through taxes inadvertently
Are...are they really the dumb ones though

>>24338176
>They complain about their worthless job but do nothing to fix it
What could they do to fix it? All jobs are being exported overseas, all trades are being given to immigrants who are happy to work for next to nothing. They’re hardly to blame for how fucked industry has become in the west

I don't resent them, I just sort of don't understand why they wouldn't put some effort into learning how money and business works. 90% of their life revolves around being stressed about money, but they put zero effort into alleviating that stress.

>>24337957
>The only thing separating you and the rest of the pool people was that you were a nerd that was into tech and video games enough to consider gambling into the right crypto when nobody knew anything about it.
no, that don't work like that. I am not into tech or video games but I knew about Bitcoin in 2013, and never bought or mined a bit then. Also I advised my relatives to invest in Bitcoin, as they have money from selling my deceased father's apartment and I haven't. If they took my advice, they would be rich and not ask me for money now. I start trading crypto in 2018 when literally everyone heard something about it.

>>24337621
> Once someone has wealth it just shows you what kind of person they are by how they view their wealth and what they do with it.
If you look at a lot of the "old money" families (Rothchilds, Roosevelts, Venderbilts, etc) they typically view their finances as just one component of wealth. There is real and tangible value in non-monetary assets, such as the skills you have, the relationships you build, or your standing in society. Philanthropy plays a large role in their family identity because even though it is a "loss" short-term financially, if it is contributed wisely it can build a legacy long beyond an individual's lifetime. Think of art collections at the Met or building public works that will be tied to your family's name forever.
Granted, OP isn't at that level of wealth but he's probably young and has enough time to try and build that kind of legacy.

>>24338404
Stop typing. You are the epitome of a midwit.

>>24337241
>>24337415
College is more expensive because the government promised every nigger a loan that they too can go. What did colleges do with more demand. They further limited the supply and raised prices.

Everything else said is spot on. I mean in the past those with a college degree were already destined to do well via nepotism. Like how the aristocracy of the old had children who studied philosophy and were fine. Even though that was even more worthless in the 1700's.

I'm not even rich and I hate poor people. Eventually those with the money gets tired of the constant whining and you end up getting genocided. I just want to be left alone with my family and not some poor retard angry because someone has a dollar in there pocket.

>>24338465
But your anecdote basically confirms what I said. The fact that you advised your family to invest when you didn't invest any amount yourself speaks to the level of conviction you had in your beliefs, for most of 2013 you could get a btc for less than 100$, if you knew it was a good thing you would be living like an absolute peasant or getting whatever extra work you could to dump all your money into it, but you didn't. You cant just look back at it in hindsight and say that you knew all along just because you heard of it.

I heard of bitcoin when it was less than a dollar, but didn't invest until several years later, that doesn't make me a savant or anything.

>>24338759
How cute, you actually have nothing of value to say but you still try to talk shit. Did I hit a nerve? Geeeeeet fucked nigga.

>>24338854
>How cute, you actually have nothing of value to say but you still try to talk shit. Did I hit a nerve? Geeeeeet fucked nigga.
Holy shit. Just stop typing.

>>24338914

You're not alone.

I own a small business and often employ desperate blue collar workers. After getting to know them for a while I not only don't sympathize with them, I despise them.

> spend every paycheck
> drink and do drugs regularly
> ignore financial tips that I pass on to them
> don't show any appreciation that I've given them a job and pay 50% more than everyone else in my industry

And yes I was poor too. But I never stopped looking for a way to make money and was conservative in my spending. 50% of Americans are complete fucking retards when it comes to spending and planning for the future.

>>24336990

happened to me too OP. stopped enjoying things i used to enjoy, started hating my old friends for being pathetic and worrying about trivial things, etc. can't imagine how the truly rich look at us

>>24337096
Exactly the only way you can help them is fostering a real attitude change in life which is of course incredibly difficult

>>24337679
Is having to get a new vehicle an American thing? My parents are middle class and they have never bought a new car. They barely even drive it because gas is expensive as fuck here.

>>24336990
Practice non-judgement and simply allow yourself to observe things objectively. Break them out of this illusion and become something more than a pile of resources.

You serotonin in your brain is being maintained at a much higher rate; yout brain deems to of higher in the social hierarchy and subsequently you are ignoring the state of others.

Complex manipulation goes on in peoples' lives on a scale in the billions to keep them suppressed and away from societal rule making and resource aspirations. The elite don't want us, they just want what we can give them.

>>24336990
You'll never fit in with the generational rich, whilst at the same time alienating yourself from the lower classes. This isn't a good road to go down, anon.

>>24339577
Yea I think so. We have a program called a lease where you can get a new car every 2 years while making monthly payments on it.

>>24337096
>browses biz, invests in crypto
>thinks he's doing something
you are a fucking retard

>>24336990
>tl;dr People are almost completely determined by complex psychogological, genetic, and environtmental factors.

We all suffer exploitation from the elites in these aspects everyday. We're conditioned to be poor, consume and to fight with each other when we we should be waking one another up.

Use what you've learned and gained to be something more than a pile of gained resources. Help carve a future for our species and help your fellow man.

>>24337904
>reddit spacing
Those are paragraphs, not Reddit spacing. Learn the difference instead of trying to imitate things you don't understand.

>>24339266
>spend every paycheck
I don't understand how people do this. I don't have a job and I'm in college so I try to spend as little as possible. Other than crypto, the last time I bought something was the last week in October and it was a $1.76 coffee.

>>24337096
>most poor people deserve to be born into shit, raised by shit and become shit, because they're shit

>>24339756
>Help carve a future for our species and help your fellow man.
This but without niggers.

>>24338441
Then they should lay down and die. I mean it, if they cannot be fucked to find a solution or use determination to cut out a life for themselves they are worthless.

>>24339756
>. Help carve a future for our species and help your fellow man.
This is thinly veiled commiespeak about giving what you have rightfully struggled to gain to your neighbour. Your neighbour deserves nothing except his freedom to help himself. If he does not utilise his freedom to improve his lot in life, he deserves his poverty death and hardship.

That is how God created the universe. Capitalism is an extension of the law of the jungle. The law of the jungle is a law of nature designed by God. Capitalism is Godly. Socialism is crypto Communism, and Communism is a bankrupt ideology of destruction and self sacrifice, wherein eveyone must always sacrifice themselves for someone else's benefit until everyone has sacrificed everything, and everything has been destroyed. That is why Communism, like other ideals of progressivism, is Satanic. It ultimately only destroys everything God has made, because it functions only by destruction, not by construction, it is only achieved through deconstructing societies, cultures, psychological paradigms, etc. That is why the CCP tried to delete the culture of China during the great leap forward, this happens in every instance of Communism. Death and destruction. Under the guise of helping your fellow man.

>>24336990
i only look down on nocoiners

>>24338240
if you have 56$, just put it in one coin so that you can cash out when it spikes and reinvest it.