/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24212412
21 always

>>24212412
10 for this run, 2 for next

>>24212453
outpriced

what is suicide?

>>24212412
>1
>21

>>24212412
suicide is one (1) BTC. out of reach already for most people.
make it is between 5 to 21 coins depending on who you ask and what they need to "make it."

>>24212494
Just buy any lightly hyped top 50 coin that its not a scam

>>24212412

1.5 haircomb
unironic post

>>24212412
Why is it turned the wrong way? biz can never get it right

claiming haircomb is betting on the utility and resilience of the bitcoin blockchain itself without gambling on the utility of bitcoin as a token or money

its a gamble just like anything else. but thats what makes it such a good one

>>24212412

Considering we're looking at 1 million dollar per by the end of 2025, the answer is obvious. (By then it will be twice as scarce as gold.) One (1) (uno) Bitcoin (BTC).

>>24212564
This. 1 is suicide stack, 10 is probably make it tier

>>24212585
any recommendations?

>>24212849
having trouble discerning the "not a scam" part. yeah I'm new

>>24212412
>using a version of the BCash logo
>buying BCH instead of BTC
>labeling the image as "bitcoin.png"

Bitcoin's logo rotates the "B" the other direction. BCash, aka "Bitcoin Cash", the ripoff Chinese shitcoin, reversed the rotation and usually-but-not-always changes the color to green. They tried really hard to confuse everyone to shill their own forked shitcoin.

OP, if you're really dumb enough to buy BCH, any amount you buy will be your suicide stack, because you're gonna kill yourself when it continues to die its slow death.

Buy Bitcoin -- BTC -- the one with that version of its logo angled up-and-right -- and you can probably retire on 10 to 21. See picrelated for the correctly rotated version of the Bitcoin logo.

>>24212564
Yeah, I'm counting more on my inheritance than on my BTC hodlings. I just need enough BTC to survive on to outlive my parents.

>>24212849
I have six figures from 2017. XLM is an easy 100% from right here right now soon.

>>24212936
>any amount you buy will be your suicide stack,

>>24212849
>>24212869
go to livecoinwatch.com customize the layout and add vol/m. cap and anything in the top 20 doing over 30% is good to go.

>>24212936
>They tried really hard to confuse everyone to shill their own forked shitcoin.

They even bought the @Bitcoin twitter handle, use r/btc as their subreddit which is Bitcoins ticker and not bcash which is BCH.

Also they claimed it to be the real Bitcoin and that it would "flip" the real Bitcoin in price +fudded other coins who were seen as competitors.

bcash deserves to die.

>>24212961
>>24212996
thanks, may your 6 figures become 7 friend

>>24212849
>>24212869
Seriously? BTC is the standard. LTC was created as an ASIC-resistant mining coin to keep mining decentralized, but that failed and there are now ASIC miners for it; the project as a whole is dead and there is little to no ongoing work happening to improve it. ETH has use cases but is centralized, has unlimited issuance, and is being run by a guy who treats it as his personal toy project. XRP was created and is centrally controlled by banks as a platform for their own tests. Tether is a stablecoin and may or may not be fully backed. LINK may or may not have use cases.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS A SCAM. Especially every shitcoin that gets shilled here.

If you actually want to "invest", BTC is the most reliable. LTC got a good bump from PayPal deciding to allow it. ETH and LINK may or may not have use cases in the long term. Anything else is simply gambling on shiling pump-and-dump scams to the stupid people out there.

>>24212453
at this point 21 is generational weath tier, 5 is a make it stack and 1 is a suicide stack
sub-1 btc holders should accumulate sats until they reach one unit before considering any altcoin

>>24213094
Monero is good.

>>24213047
That and also Roger Ver, who used to call himself "Bitcoin Jesus" and whom everyone else now calls "Bitcoin Judas", used his "bitcoin.com" domain to try to push everyone to BCH. People used to go to the .com site and think they were buying Bitcoin and then finding out they got screwed with BCH.

It's a damn good thing for him that he renounced his U.S. citizenship and lives on some Caribbean island or else he'd be in prison for fraud by now. I'm seriously surprised that he's still alive.

There are a lot of other ways that the BCH scumbags tried to destroy Bitcoin. Practically the entire altcoin scam industry owes its existence to their constant FUD campaign that they created to try to destroy Bitcoin.

>>24212412
One full BitCoin

I don't remember what suicide stack means, but make it stack rn is 100 BTC.

21 BTC might seem a lot for some, but it's not much more than what entry-level software engineers make at SF.

>>24213201
Fair point, although I'm not sure anyone uses it unless they're buying drugs on the darknet. Which is a valid use case IMHO, but I don't see it appealing to normies.

>>24213201
>>24213094

These chads are correct. BTC, ETH, and XMR comprise the Holy Trinity of crypto.

>>24212412

Answer: buy ethereum. Just as important if not more as/than bitcoin oy more mcap upside.

Do you think ETH will outperform BTC in the short to medium term? Right now I have 0.2 BTC and 11 ETH

>>24213361

Ocean Protocol, Ample and Xdai Stake also have huge futures.

>>24213094
Litecoin is fast, has low fees and brand recognition. It is a good alternative for when Bitcoin is congested.

>>24213414


Yes.

0.28
You will be in the top 1%

>>24213329
making it is location relative, that’s the best part of Bitcoin. It equalizes the playing field

>>24213437

I don't think so, Tim.

>>24212453
Anyone who has 7+ is going to be a millionaire if they sell the top of this bullrun.

>>24213479
Exactly. I live in a shithole and if you have 1 btc here you're already in the 1%

>>24213457
Yeah, but that’s just top 1% of People who hold BTC, the unknown factor is how prevalent it becomes in our society in the end game scenario

>>24213329
If 2mil isn't enough for you to "Make it", you should probably move away from Commifornia

>>24213329
after paying $3000 rent for their cuckshed I am sure they have so much money left

>>24212412
One full coin is a given. I mean if i didn't have a whole coin i wouldn't even dare to say i'm into crypto. Make it stack is 10 BTC.

>>24213094
Based

>>24213329
>100 BTC is make it stack
There's probably less than 100 people in the world who still have 100 btc that weren't already rich before they bought it
Most people won't even ever have 1 whole bitcoin and that's at today's price of $19,000
If you have 10 bitcoins you have irrefutably made it. Bitcoin will be trading like the price per square acre in Manhattan

>>24213795
I've got 170k link does that count? That's about 135btc at current prices

>>24213857
Congrats, you've made it beyond belief

>>24212412
lol, you are outpriced hard already on both and 5 years to late

>>24213857
Dude cmon you fucking made it stfu

>>24213857
Why yes, I too like to larp on a mongolian basked weaver forum?

>>24213765

What's crazy is that after next year having a full Bitcoin will be out of reach for 95% of people. People will start talking about owning .1 instead. Another four years after that and I expect it will be all about having .01.

>>24212996
Yuup

>>24213988
Checked, you're new though right? I guess you wouldn't know what it's like to sit on said Albanian hand farming forum every single day for 3 (THREE) YEARS STRAIGHT, or suddenly realise you're no longer a new fag & that this coming bull run is now not an unknown quantity, right? Cause if you did know, how tf don't you have a big stack of link too??

>>24214157
1 BTC is already out of reach for 95% of people. Most people are fucking poor and barely have any money.

>>24214411

Nah, right now 95% is an exaggeration. There are plenty of high-income people in the world who could afford a whole Bitcoin without much trouble. It's still cheaper than most new cars. Once it gets into the high five digits and six digits, though, it becomes the province of millionaires, who really are the 1%. You're right that the majority of people can't afford one now though. Half of America makes less than 30k a year.

I only have 4btc. An I gonna make it bro's

>>24214644
Eventually

I own half a bitcoin and I'm looking at becoming a wholecoiner. What price do you guys think BTC will top off? Will it really be 300K?

>>24212412
10 BTC or approximately 8000 EGO

>>24214567
The majority of the population doesn't live in America though. There are billions of people in Asia and Africa that have nothing.

To be in the top 10% worldwide you need $93k net worth (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-in-the-richest-10-percent-worldwide.html)) but that includes all assets like houses and stocks, not just cash. I doubt people with $93k net worth are going to sell their house to spend $20k on bitcoin. I mean, theoretically they could, so it's still technically within reach for them, but not realistically.

You might be right that it's not true that 95% can't afford it yet, I couldn't find any stats about how much wealth the top 5% has globally but I guess it's quite a bit more than $93k. But if the top 10% of the world has $93k NW, then 90% of the world's population can't afford 1 BTC imo, at least not without selling their house which I don't see anyone doing.

>>24215017
>tfw youre in the less than .001% of society
>literal round table
Lol

>>24212453

This has always been. It shall always be.

>>24214877
I have 0.1 but live in the 3rd world so it's good

I ONLY HAVE 0.5 BTC HAHAHA

>>24213094
The best BTC-like coin that still gets updates and is worked on without a paid company behind it is probably DigiByte DGB.

the absolute suicide stack is 1.
Imagine cotrolling one twentymillionth of all wealth on the planet. (divided by 5 prolly)

>>24213201
This. Monero is the only crypto alt worth investing in.

>>24214877
Five years ago I thought $25K was an eventual possibility, maybe, if the whole thing didn't collapse.

I didn't have nearly enough vision. I didn't expect that Venezuelans and Lebanese would be buying it to preserve their savings from their own governments. I didn't expect that the government of Iran would embrace it as a way to bypass American sanctions. I didn't expect that Biden would be elected to preside over the destruction of the U.S. economy. I won't be surprised to see $600K by the end of the decade. Even with the reduced purchasing power of a devalued U.S. dollar, it will still be $200K in today's money.

>>24215017
There are 46M millionaires in the world.
It doesn't matter how high the price gets, they can never each own 1 BTC.

1 BTC = going to be 1M USD by 2030. So 4-5 is probably make it stack.

>>24212494
5

>>24215624
suicide stack seem more like "still live comfy"

>>24212412
6.15

>>24215339
nigga this is a proven premine scam and has been for a very long time

>>24213201
is it actually anonymous?
wont china 51% it?

>>24215659
you had 12 years, including, but not limited to March this very year (2020), where 5 Bitcoin cost you about 20k.

Is it worth it to grab a little bit of BTC now while it's at all time high?

>>24215855
DCA all the way baby
but no in all due diligence, get XLM

>>24215733
>pre-mine scam
>proven
DGB is in the talk over and over again for 6 years now
of course it is full of memes and bag holders, but going for legitimate stuff, DGB is one of the very few coins who is not fucked up in that regard

>>24215855
>Is it worth it to grab a little bit of BTC now while it's at all time high?
I'm just going to wait until it crashes again when some whales decide to unload a bit.

It won't keep mooning forever. It'll go up and down over time as it continually rises up.

>>24212412
1btc is now suicide stack, dont know about make it, maybe 10

>>24212849
Yeah, any of the top fifties

>the absolute EUPHORIA itt

>>24216914
that was my thought as well, I am sticking with my ripple and stellar for now

>>24212412
1 suicide stack
10 comfy stack
21 make it stack

>>24212412
1 btc is suicide, 10 is make it.

Ignore all these fags who think you need $400,000 for a suicide stack. Fucking retards

>>24212412
Short at 20k on a 125x

>>24212412
depends how soon you want to be able to enjoy the gains. 1 btc might be 1million in 10 years, but then if you want about 30-40 years it might be worth a lot more, it could be used to let your grandchildren not work a single day in their life and still be able to retire, if they manage the money properly. this is some vague thought i have, it might be completely bullshit

>>24212494
the feeling of not having unn finance

>>24213361
Glad there's great minds out there in crypto space not just phebs

>>24215777
No. A thousand new ones would pop up

>>24216914
Id bet it never goes below 20k once it passes it. When number go up, High iq and low iq buy. Dont be the middle iq that tries to beat the market and wait for a dip. Literally EVERYONE is waiting for a dip. This includes multi billion dollar company. Do yourself a favor and just buy and hold.

I want to buy more BTC but it seems like a bad time, since it's already up.
Can I expect a drop at some point so that I can get in? I don't want to miss out, but I don't want to buy at the top either...

>>24213505
>Andrei Jikh spotted

Bros I’m a little depressed. I unironically have been following Bitcoin news religiously since about September of 2017, but I have always been a poorfag. I was in college during most of this and had absolutely no expendable income. I just recently got a job stable enough to start buying BTC periodically, but I still have bills to pay, so the amount I can contribute is meager atm. Not only that, since we are reaching ATH again I think we will rocket like a muhfucka once it’s broken. My opportunity to secure cheap corns are disappearing and it’s a little bittersweet. I knew this was going to happen but I thought I had a little more time. It’s nice feeling vindicated in your convictions, but it feels like I’m being left out. Anyways, thanks for reading my diary. I genuinely hope everyone ITT makes it. BTC is cool as fuck and subverts those dirty central banks in such a beautiful way that it gives me massive hope for the future. We’ve never had a truly decentralized money before and it feels like the old world is dying at just the right time, almost like BTC is the deus ex machina. It’s truly beautiful.

>>24213857
Not BTC until you trade it for BTC, fuck off
>t. 44 (((BTC equivalent value))) in 2017

>>24218829
>It’s truly beautiful.
it is my friend. if you post a lightning invoice for 1000 sat here, I will send it.

>>24218829
Same scenario, except I got blessed with unemployment. If you are smart and open minded enough to grasp the concept of Bitcoin before most people, I think you will have another if not many more oppurtunities in the future. Good luck anon

>>24217351
it's more like disbelief, at least OP

>>24213103
why is 1 suicide stack

t. 0.06 btc owner :'(

Should I ask my bank for a loan to invest into BTC?

>>24219614
never ever indebt yourself

>>24218829
>but it feels like I’m being left out.
You're not being left out. Keep stacking.
BTC will reach $1M almost assuredly in next 10 years....outside of that there is a chance it goes truly parabolic. In a 20-30 year view (if it survives) it may be $10m per coin.

>>24219775
Sell signal.
>>24219614
Massive sell signal.

>>24219737
Even if that means losing my one chance of making it?