/biz/ - Business & Finance

CLAIM YOUR TITLE

>BABA bro
>XOMbie
>PLTR chad
>DraftKANG
>AUtist
>CRSRader
>RKT scientist
>MARAuder
>CLF tranny
>GME over
>NIOgro
>INTCel
>RTX on

Based OP
>https://seekingalpha.com/article/4390525-what-palantir-is-not
Time to brush up on your palantirchad etymology

I went short

I have an uneasy feeling bobo is coming for a visit on monday.

Too much uncertainly not priced in...we saw some of that the last 5 minutes of trading

>>24111595
Errybody dumping their shit so they dont hold the weekend

buy JDW

>>24111618

Alot of uncertainty

The vaccine may BTFO against these newer strains of covid already in circulation...if so thats catstrophic

The election is another one.

And finally GDP revisons are happening across the board reflecting reality od lockdowns this winters

NEVER SELLING MY TSLA OR NVDA

>>24111656
The meme coof was used mainly to bash Trump. If Biden wins there will be no harsh lockdowns for businesses you can bet on that.

I'm 22 and have a shitty IT job making £22k a year.
No Roth IRA or 401K in the UK, but I do have a stocks and shares ISA, in which I deposit £150 a month. (I also have a good company pension plan)
What else should I be doing to maximise my chances of being able to retire at 50?
(I also own 1.5k Linkies)

>>24111535
I have the AUtism

The only reason why I hold on to gold is because it was a gift from my grandfather. He would have wanted me to keep it forever as some security. Can't blame him and can't say it's bas advice.

>>24111724

Lmao you are a fucking retard.

If it was only a meme the world wouldnt be locked down

>>24111728
Really think about if you want kids or not, those little shits are expensive.

>>24111772

>>24111772
Its a huge meme that keeps on giving. Its not deadly enough to justify this level of shutdowns.

>>24111728
> £22k a year.
> "retire at 50"
Get a new career.

>>24111728
Start a hydroponic grow operation

>>24111535
Only baba bro

>>24111836
insightful

>>24111535
Rlftf insecure anon

Do you guys jerk off when you trade? On really bullish days when I'm up like 30% I can crank it off twice sometimes 3 times.

I jerked it 3 times on Friday.

pumped into nvidia on friday

>>24111915
I mean, it's laughable that you think it's possible with only 22k/yr. There are anons making 100k/yr or more who won't hit that goal. Seriously, you need to either change your career or find other revenue streams (rentals, starting a business, etc).

>>24112006
I'm 22 and have a salaried job, it's not as if I won't hop around a bit between now and age 50 to improve my standing.
Plus cost of living is very cheap in my part of the country.

>>24111915

he's right, 150 quid a month doesn't cut it, you need to save 1000 or more.

>>24111535
>BABA bro
Got it.
>AUtist
Do you mean physical gold or the stock?

>>24111969
>2 ferrari in front
has to be photoshopped

>>24112006
This is just depending on your goals though. If you can't retire at 50 with 100k/year you should take a long look at your standards and what you actually want from a retirement. A yacht is 30k. A nice house in Costa Rica maybe 150k.

And you can retire with 30k a year, smart investment choices and a normal lifestyle.

It all depends on what you want. Especially Americans often have this view that you can't retire unless you have three million while Swedes or Germans basically live happy retired lives on 40k a year in SEA.

>>24111833

Because they are not telling us the entire story.

The reality of it is that the virus is endemic like hepatitis or HIV. Once you have it..its yours to keep. Go ahead and go down the hole of reinfections.

You are gonna gonna find and see more and more the word reinfection replaced with relapse.

Everyone infected with this is will get sick again and again

My original price target was 144. I put 2k in and have 240 shares. Ill be have 36k from a 2k investment if it hits 150.

Thats fucking insane, I wish I bought more.

Is going 1/3 Shell 1/3 BP 1/3 XOM a good idea for the long term they WILL go back to their previous valuations in a year or two r-right guys ?

>>24112129
>People keep believing the doom and gloom /Pol/ stories
What are your positions?

Is WeBull glitchy for anyone else?

>>24112129
>Everyone infected with this is will get sick again and again
I followed /cvg/ as well. Its a huge meme thats kept alive because theres huge interest in it.
It kills small businesses that boosts Amazon, tech, hospitals that get huge amounts of money for every rona case.
It was used against Trump. Very effectively and it cost him the election if he ends up stepping down.
Now compare the west to the rest of the world and especially the Chinks. They are open wide and booming.

>>24112176

Ive been crazy bullish since march.

Enjoyed the ride up

I shorted SPY bought SPXS and hedged with FAS and some calls

If im wrong ill come back and call myself a retard on monday and post my losses and yall can laugh at me and post pink wojacks

>>24111535
RVP MVP

>>24112176
Should pump more into SHOP

>>24112079
>>24112006
Also sure I need to save more, but where do I put it? Is a stocks and shares ISA the best solution?

Also for context a detached 4 bedroom is £160k in my town
And I don't want to be rich, just independent.

>>24112318

If you don't believe in crypto, I dont, then socks and shares ISA is good.
Just make sure you pick passive ones, active management is hot garbage.

>>24112263
Why were you bullish when you essentially think its a terrible disease?

>>24112318
>>24112394
With that amount of money i would just bet on high risk products, especially if you're young, the risk-reward is just too good to miss. The amount of money you will lose is negligible if you factor in the fact that you'll probably be making money for another 2-3 decades.
Always think in terms of probabilities and expected value my friend :)

Who else is waiting for a nice PLTR dip to go all in?

>>24112457

I didnt for awhile. I was a flu bro till about last month

>>24111728
Fellow britbong here.
As other anons have said, try getting a higher paid job + move out of the crowded big city (where houses are cheaper) + get a budget calculator - make sure you're not pissing away money every month. Live frugally.

Once you have all that done that should free up some extra cash every month:
>S&S ISA - Limit is £20k per year which works out to roughly 1.6k a month.
Get as close as you can to maxing this out, Vanguard is your go to. I would personally recommend a 90% 10% split between the FTSE global All Caps Accumulation fund + Global bonds.
>LISA
Housing market in the UK is a clown market and we're probably due for a correction soon. If you haven't got a LISA get a LISA. You can dump a max of 4K every financial year and the government will match it with £1000 if you are using it to buy your first house.
>Emergency fund
Have like 3 months worth of expenses tucked away in some high street bank current account.
>Gold
Thankfully Sovereign/Britannia gold coins are exempt from Capital Gains Tax so you can keep a decent amount in a vault as a hedge against a recession. You need like £2000 for it to financially viable storing it in a vault.
>Pension
You can either go with your company's pension or a SIPP where you opt out of your company's scheme and invest in your pension yourself. This is personal choice, I keep my company's pension.


Once you have all that in order, you should be set for a comfortable retirement. You can add in memes like renting property (too much headache and way overhyped in the UK IMHO) or more risky plays like individual stocks/options but the above is more than enough.

>>24112394
>>24112467
>>24112546

thanks frens

>>24112534
I could ask what changed your mind, but I choose believe something else already and I'm all long.

Good luck though.

I'm going to buy NIO calls next week.
What strike price should I buy for 2023?

>>24111535
NVDAdiot

Anyone got the drive link to the books in the pastebin?

>>24112176
Unlike cucked bulls. Bears strike hard and fast. We take away your gains fast and put into our pockets ;).

But seriously, December will be red.

WHEN is the dip

>>24113035
I only see green ahead

EV bros I though we were saving the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOMWzjrRiBg

>>24113035
what gains? i've been bagholding AAPL since August with no gains
worst of all is the $ is toast, so I am in the red and can't sell

>>24113035
>But seriously, December will be red.

I hate fucking perma bears so much. Perma bulls are at least fun. You guys just sit in the corner crying, too afraid to do anything, while repeating the same doomer shit every day. You are cucked, watching bulls fucking make it every day while dreaming of the few times you were allowed to fuck the market.

>>24111969
if you bought at the close then i'll forgive you since it's at least around a minor level of support. still, i hope you're ready to DCA down if it drops further, but at least you're buying below the 200 hour MA at roughly around a support level (obviously 520 would have been better, or especially 505 or 492 at the lowest so far).

>Germany: Coalition agrees on quota for women in the boardroom

short dax

>buy 1 share of O
>tell everyone I'm a landlord
Landlord Chads ww@?

yes yeeessss pump fear into the goyim and in turn pump my ev meme stocks

>>24113283
the main problem i have with bears is that their risk to reward is way worse with shorting and the statistics are historically against them ("On average, when the market is evaluated from 1957–2019, there were bear markets or losses for 362 days, while the bull markets or gains were for 1,651 days."). not only that but with going long, you don't have to pay any interest for holding, DCA'ing involves buying cheaper share not shorting more expensive ones, and literally the worst case scenario possible is losing 100%, no more than that. with going short it's the opposite, your potential losses are infinite (can be greater than your investment) and your upside is at most double your money at 100% if the company literally go bankrupt.

if you pick good companies and use TA to see where the "buy low" opportunities are relative to the long term average price, keep track of current events and company news, and keep powder available to DCA down if it goes lower while scaling out when it goes in your favor, you literally can't lose. worst case scenario, even in extreme cases like 2008 or the covid crash of 2020, you literally LITERALLY can just wait (although if you git gud you'd know when shit was hitting the fan and would cut your losses much earlier, then buy the dip when it's over and make many multiples over what you lost).

besides, permabulls should like it when the market goes down. we need it to go down to be able to buy the dip in the first place. if it never went down there would never be a dip to buy. but statistically, with blue chip stocks especially, stocks literally do only go up in the long run. this is an objective fact, it is indisputable. even the guy who bought the top of TSLA post split would have made a profit by now if he just held for 2.5 months since he bought. even people who bought the top of the market before the covid crash would have reached break in like, half a year i think? if they just held and did literally nothing but wait.

>>24113479
>land lOrd

>>24111535
VOOmer

Is the anon shilling Opti from last night here?

I'm not in yet but was reading about their tech and the 2billion signed and paid for deal. I want to believe too. They are already fulfilling the order.

Seems like a no brainer hold til mid Feb when their earnings are published

To good to be true?

>>24113479
landlord of senior living and nursing properties reporting
time to pay up boomers

>>24111535
TSLAutist reporting for duty.

>come in for OT to get extra stock bucks
>employer plays drunk history for 4 hours
I FEEL MY FUCKING BRAIN CELLS DYING OFF ONE BY ONE LISTENING TO THIS SHIT. I HEAR THEIR SCREAMS OF AGONY. HELP ME. FUCKING HELP.

Think Monday I'm buying SQQQ to sell covered calls

>>24113634
>That pic
Lmao

Imagine if Amazon was busted up tho.

All those IPOs.

>>24113634
>riggers
oh god that's fucking brilliant. and here i thought joggers was genius, but now that's been one upped it seems.

PLTR chads w-we’re gonna be ok right?

>>24111535
OPTImus Prime

let's say you're not holding GME already (loser), would you invest in blockbuster 2.0 if you read this article?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/20/former-chewy-ceo-ryan-cohen-urges-gamestop-to-become-the-amazon-of-video-games.html

ignore the clickbait next """amazon""" portion
I also wonder if this line alone is enough to bait degenerate gamblers
>However, what is interesting here is there is an unusually high short interest, with approximately 90% of the shares in lending programs, so we don't really know who has loaned their shares, who can vote them and who can recall them before the meeting.

>>24113634
is opti in danger of being delisted/reverse splitting any time soon? i need to know before investing some gambling money into it. thinking about putting $1k into it at 0.05 on monday. also when exactly is the earnings in feb, do we know the date so i can mark it on my calendar?

>>24113479
Airbnb soon.

>"What do you rent out?"
>"Miami, Barcelona, Venice."

>>24113721
Are you retarded? Of course we are. Only GME level brainlets would be woried about a slight pullback after an almost 100% run up.

>>24113670
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>24113826
hey man.. that -30% pullback killed MORE than half my unrealized gains
i'm back to barely +50% now

i wish i had just gone all in from under $6, i've been averaging up aggressively so my cost basis is $8 now

>>24113907
Based.

The weekends are so boring now.

what's happening next week? Vaccine pump? Stimulus pump? Shorts hedging for a drop? 215K in volume yesterday on 14dte 370c. There was only 4k open interest prior to this.

>>24113670
where do you work?

>>24113933
Pump up desu

>>24113822
I'm a bit skeptical about ABNB. Why are they going public now? They are hugely in debt as well.

has there ever been anyone on twitter or stocktwits or youtube or something like that who you could just copy their plays and do well with?

>>24113918
... 30% pullback? We haven't pullback 30%.....

Oh you are talking about the retards that bought GME. Nvm thought you were talking about PLTR

What do you guys do on the weekends while the market is closed? I work on projects around the house (fix the yard, fix items in the house, etc.). I want to make more money on the weekends to invest but it would take away from time w/ the family. I'm not obsessed with money I just want to support them and set future generations up well.

>>24113951
Autel

>>24113933
Next week probably nothing. I think this small pullback this week was some profit taking and there's going to be a lot of cash sitting on the sidelines waiting to see how Black Friday goes. I expect early December to show a rise in Corona and more political instability, with a potential of more state lockdowns that are just waiting for the biggest shopping day of the year to pass. They'll let retail have their day, then institute the lock downs. I think we're in for a red December until the transition of power and stimulus news in January, and I'm usually a permabull.

>>24114013
Stock Moe is doing good but then again hes shilling mostly EVs even though he was early on it.
Are you following anyone yourself youd recommend?

https://www.youtube.com/user/faststockcash

Bros I don’t feel so well...

>>24114042
I go insane.

>>24114110
Why did you sell?

>>24113979
Stock market is at all time highs and they DO need money. Supposedly they're IPOing for 30 billion.

>>24114110
Buy high, sell low. Congrats anon

>>24114110
lol what the fuck
on $124 too

what the fuck spooked you to bail out prematurely? Especially when you were only using gambling money in the first place

>>24114214
Theyve been shilling them hard as well.
I'll jump in early for sure and see what comes.

https://www.economist.com/business/2020/11/21/airbnbs-stockmarket-debut-will-be-a-hit

>>24113907
based 24/7 wtfwt poster

very good term structure to be long stocks bros

>>24113789
December 31st we find the 2 patent $ amount. We also find out about the Logistical Shipping Endeavor = 2 Billion. Happy New Year

So is the EV pump going to dump next week or what? Like I barely know why the fuck it even pumped in the first place apart from Tesla hype into the S&P500

>>24113789
>also when exactly is the earnings in feb

>>24114110
You could be me.....I’m big dumb

i plan on going all in on doordash and airbnb's ipos.

try to convince me not too.

>>24114795
Man its not going to dump. This will be a multi year pump.

I'm looking for a dip to buy NIO calls

>>24114795
The EV meme will persist for some time anon. I'm sure there will be corrections along the way but I also expect it to be a great sector to invest in.
Much like with the dot com bubble crash. Look at tech today.

me waiting for the PLTR dip

Think I’ve finally decided my strategy. Thoughts on MOON vs ARKK though? Feels like MOON has more upside short term

>>24114879
Do people actually buy what these YouTubers say when the stock has already pumped

What strike price and date should I buy NIO calls? I'm trying to yolo like 1k to make it big. Never bought calls before

>>24114853
When is Doordash ipo?

I'll put in 10k

>>24115005
all of the strikes and dates are risk adjusted. there's no secret combination that someone can give you. the bigger the yolo, the cheaper the option, and the more likely it won't work out.

so why did USA bonds crashed from sick 15% to almost 0% since 80s?

>>24114853
doordash loses money on every purchase. Maybe you can ride the hype tho. Airbnb is a better long term investment, but I wouldn't expect it to do well mid term.

Tfw 5 more days till my Palantir hat arrives

>>24115004
Why do you think it keeps on pumping?

>>24115005
> I'm trying to yolo like 1k to make it big. Never bought calls before

>>24114853
Door dash yes now that governors wanna cave in to the meme flu it’s probably making money hand over fist and probably will keep on making even more money as Americans become even more lazy

>>24114110
What the deal with solo I made good money off it because it’s a telegraph pump and dump.
I know it’s better than nkla because physical product that exist
But the manipulation is Kodak tier

>>24115076
Well I got a stock that these YouTubers will start posting about in the coming weeks

>>24115060
They actually sell hats too? I thought they just sold the stationary bikes and subscriptions to content...

>What strike price and date should I buy NIO calls? I'm trying to yolo like 1k to make it big.

>>24115178
W-what is it anon?

>>24114879
The jogger is the only one I would even listen to. What is wrong with jewtube?

>>24115214
I see white 30 year olds in wife beaters buy lotto tickets with their cigarettes all the time. At least the market offers some predictability.

>>24111474
what are the best stocks you've bought?
>TSLA, 360% return
>NIO, 350% return
and your worst?
>VISL, 67% loss

>>24115060
Just seen its $70 to ship to the UK. fuming

The selling end of day was the start of a small correction...profit taking.

Possible monday and tuesday down. Liquidation for christmas shopping.

Nothing major. Will be green again at some point

>>24115288

I still do this

I won $10000 6 months ago

>>24115347
>Liquidation for christmas shopping.
This is the last Trump Christmas. They're going to cancel it to kick him in the balls on the way out.

>>24115080
Well anon, my friend accidently 10 calls instead of 1 he intended on tsla last week. The next days he woke up with 90k from a 10k investment, if he had kept it a bit longer he'd have 500k

Now 1k isn't much. But its enough to gamble with.

>>24115226
Longview acquisition announced their merger with Butterfly Network on Friday, they are backed by Bill Gates and it pumped to $12 but I expect it to go way higher next week.

>>24111724
The great reset isn’t a retarded meme anon.
The covid shit has happened globally.
WEF isnt just a meme.
World leaders, even Trump, giving speeches at WEF isn’t just a meme.
It’s fucking happening everywhere, no stopping it.
If Trump manages to pull off a W it will only delay the inevitable.
You will own nothing and be happy.
You will own nothing and be happy.

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

You may think its just a meme, you may think its just crazy conspiracy talk. But that only shows how ignorant YOU are.
World leaders dont speak at “conspiracy” events and support “conspiracy” organizations. They know full well what they do(and/or their handlers do).
Have fun playing stonks while it lasts everyone, everything as we know it is unironicaly ironically over soon.

>>24113437
leave this shithole as fast as you can

>>24115056
I have no intention of holding doordash long term. Just going to buy CFD's and ride ipo hype

If Joe Biden can cancel student debt can he also cancel all of my short options?

>>24115401
Oh yea right I read about that few hours ago but for some reason mixed it up with CIIC and Arrival.
Now your post comparmented CIIC and BFLY.
Will def keep an eye on it. Longview mooned like 30%.
Fucking spacs man

how many GME shares to get a Venus gf

>>24115045

no inflation

We gonna make it MARA bros

>>24115442
no he want's government to own everything and to force people to join the democratic socialists union to get a $15 per hour job. and all jobs will pay $15 an hour, but you get free healthcare as a human right, and to take part in the government run ponzi scheme. We should really be looking to leave the country,,, this place is about to get so fucking pozed, it will make freddy mercury look like he was a strait and healthy man.

>>24115416

fuck off back to pol,
the "s" in smg is for stonks, not schizo.

>>24115416
Its a meme in the sense that its not a deadly virus as they make it out to be but rather a tool used for gains as you pointed out.
Whether (((they))) want the world you describe thats another story.

>>24115662
desu senpai he's right and not schizoposting, sadly.

>>24115645
America was the last country to run to. There are no more lands for people to escape to for freedom. I think anons on 4chan these days dont want to see the writing on the wall and everyone is to passive in america to fight for anything important anymore.
Soilent green type 1984 shit will be here by 2030-40.

>>24114974
MOON is riskier given that their top holdings are literal memes. Keep in mind NIO can suddenly go to 25 or 100 and no one would be surprised. ARKK has had consistent gains and reliable holdings (especially now that TSLA is in the S&P), albeit no incredible spikes. It's sort of just a personal decision on if you trust MOON holdings to not plummet.

I'm personally doing both but betting most on PLTR. Depending on what happens this week I might shave some profits off and even split into both ETFs.

>>24115416
>>24115721
You're thinking in caveman terms, anon.
We won't need a physical body of land to run to.
We will transcend the physical form.

>>24115645
Ridiculous. Joe biden is a corporate. democrat. Now post your gookfu's lewds

>>24115662
This isnt even pol shit retard. This is fucking basic fundamental economics changing by force retard.
Kind of fucking important to know what
world leaders, world bankers, the UN, etc. are talking about and actively implementing. You just cant read and are mad cause you dont understand the world around you and lash out at others

>>24115761
What the fuck is MOON?

I have 3k shares of MARA at 3.08
Am I gonna make some real fucking money for once

>>24115826
warning: you just posted cringe
why would you reply to some newfag like that
you just lost all credibility

What can we expect from GME next week boys?

>>24115911
False

>>24115836
Moonshot (aka memeshot) Innovators ETF. It's a new ETF that invests solely in meme stocks. It started trading on Nov 12 and is already up 13%.

>>24115836
retard https://www.direxion.com/product/moonshot-innovators-etf

>>24111474
STOCKS ONLY GO UP

GREEN LINE NEXT WEEK

MY POSITIONS ARE CORONA PROOF AND IM GOING TO USE THE PROCEEDS TO BUY A HOUSE AND AN AUTHENTIC FULL SUIT OF ARMOR AND A COOL SWORD TO STAB STUFF WITH

Just want to thank the anons that told me about plug, fcel and ride(then dphc) some months ago. To me having roughly 700% profit in something that isn't crypto is just insane

>>24115416
>You will own nothing and be happy.
>You will own nothing and be happy.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING RETARD

I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPY
AND NOW YOU WANT TO TELL ME TO GET RID OF MY SHIT LIKE A FUCKING BUDDHIST AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY???

FUCKING DIE

>>24115896
Can you give me a quick rundown about MARA?

NetCents could also be an interesting choice to ride on the crypto boom

>>24116027
I FORGOT TO ADD THE PIC RELATED BECAUSE IM ROLLING TOO HARD RN SORRY

>>24116000
holy fucking shit you were not kidding

>>24116009
Extremely rude

>>24116059
That's a fucking terrible list. What a easy etf to avoid.

HOW DO I START AN ETF

GIVE ME YOUR MONEY AND ILL INVEST IT

>>24116080
This is that bitch that really knows the right way to eat an egg?

>>24116042
In short it should grow in proportion with bitcoin and the popularity of mining it. Many are predicting the demand for such a stock is going to boom next week.

I have TSLA 410 puts for Dec. 4. Do you think we will have a retrace and drop down 30-40 sometime this week?

>>24116059
what the fuck lel, even the /smg/ ETF is better than that

>>24116135
Are you keeping up with buttcoins? Can we expect 2017 levels of bullrun come Dec/Jan?

Frens, I love anime girls and hate women

>>24116059
>>24116093
Terrible until its not. Using it for NIO exposure to lower risk is fine if you don't want to run the chance of having the CCP bog you

>>24116080
I didn't mean it ok

>>24116181
I'm gonna be completely honest with you I have no idea what the fuck is going on with bitcoin or the entire market rn. Everything is ridiculously green and it makes no sense

>>24116212
bro
I don't even respect women

>>24116212
Based

>>24116135
What is their involvement with bitcoin? Do they mine it and generate profits from it?

>>24116225
The fact that SPCE is on there immediately disqualifies it.

>>24116059
>"how do you do fellow kids" the ETF

>>24116225
That's why it's kind of appealing... I just can't buy NIO or WKHS up here

>>24116311
If half the holdings go to 0 and half of them are 3 baggers, how much do we win?

ExHentai IPO when?

i exited all positions in late august and now feel like a retard.
now i am experiencing extreme fomo, what should i do?

>>24116324
I saw people posting about this the last couple of days and didn't bother to look into it. Now that I know what it is, I simply cannot respect anyone who invests in it

>>24116042
Its a crypto miner with a somewhat decent balance sheet and has already purchased a a bunch of miners to increase their hash rate to mine more shitcoin. The miners will start arriving early 2021 and I believe they should have all of them by June 2021. It generally moves closely with the price of shitcoin. Shitcoin is hovering below 19k and looks like it could possibly smash the ATH made in 2017.

>>24116438
unironically jump into some meme stocks
DKNG, CRSR are safer bets
I'm waiting for PLTR and NIO dips to jump in myself

>>24116485
That was the dip on PLTR, run resumes next week

what's the next meme rocket

>>24116559
oil stocks followed by psilocybin stocks

>>24116559
Roblox

I’m literally going to sell either my PLTR or my CRSR stack and drop 90k on it day 1

>>24116438
Wasn't that the best timing? QQQ is not even back to that.

You should have bought at the bottom, but you're certainly not retarded

Thoughts on microsoft and walmart

PLTR bros what are you planning to do to prepare for the inevitable end to the insider share lock up period prior to Q4? Are you going to sell some of your shares to secure profit? Are you going to hedge your shares/calls with puts? Personally I plan to just hedge my position with ITM puts, but I haven't really decided what strike and expiry because so much can happen from now to December (when I plan to buy the puts). Might pick up something like pic related. Thoughts?

>>24116348
>>24116444
The index it tracks has done well. Anyway, I can see how it can be unappealing given the state of things but its very possible that WKHS or NIO are mainstay, heavily integrated companies in the next 5-10 years.

>>24116636
priced in, don't bother thinking about things that are public knowledge, especially when people like Soros are telegraphing it months in advance

>>24116666
Checked Satan

>>24116557
cope
>>24116559
DENN

>>24116636
obviously just ride it out and buy every dip

Is making money really this easy or am I missing something?

Im bored af

>>24116471
Sounds good. Although I never had any luck with small market cap companies. Always seemed to invest before dumping. And MARA seems to have mooned already

>>24116636
Depends on how much we run on by then, if we are at 22-25 in Jan I might just hold since I got in at 13. Quads anon is right on it not mattering much since its public knowledge, however that doesn't entirely reduce the risk.

>>24115826

When the great reset has either
1) happened
2) gotten acknowledged by market forces
you can come back
until then it's schizo fantasies that belong on /pol/.
now please, PLEASE fuck off. this is a thread about investing.

>>24116640
>>24116640
WKHS probably but NIO I'm still skeptical of. You really can't trust chinks and when they get exposed usually bad things happen.

>>24116666
Fucking checked. Maybe you're on to something. Perhaps I should load up on 2023 LEAPS instead if it does dip instead of trying to time this shit.

>>24116000
Checked and my sides are going to leave the planet when /smg/ starts talking about moon mooning
Should we use moon man as the symbol for moon

>>24116625
Solid companies with real products, a strategy and the size and quality to survive anything. Also independent of China and all that. Companies that have almost a fixed rate of growth each year and so constantly branch out and find new ways to make money.

All in all cearly stocks you would not want to hold right now as we enter the clown year. -10% on both is in the cards. -20% on good news.
Get some TSLA, NKLA and ZOOM, you nigger.

>>24112546
>get a budget calculator
any recommendations? or should i just fire up a good old excel sheet?

why buy individual stocks if not even professional fund managers can outperform the broad market index funds in the long run?

>>24116957
because professional fund managers are faggots

>>24116599
based roblox chad

>>24116957
Because the top holds on RH literally outperform the market.

>>24116765
It is a gamble because if I'm recalling correctly, more miners increases the mining difficulty. My MARA position is very small, just a few LEAPS for 2023, a couple calls for 01/15/2021 and 200 shares. I'm just looking for it to spike above 6 and then I'll exit my shares via covered calls. There probably is more upside than $6, but I'm not sure if bitcoin mania will affect stuff on the stock market side of things like it did on the last run.

hi sexy bois don't mind me. im riding solo today

>>24117004
jesus christ when the fuck did that happen
didn't it used to be the opposite?

>>24116957
Because soon enough we just might strike it with a meme stock in the likes of NIO
But yea majority of investments should be ETFs and safer divvies.
Nothing wrong with having some cash to burn on memes

>>24116957
If you never sell you never lose. I personally believe the only reason people can't beat the indexes is that they're weak handed faggots.

>>24116785
Ya I think he's right, I'm in for the long haul anyway, but just wanted to see what other people thought. I'll most likely just buy the dip when it happens.

>>24116559
Solo

>>24116636
puts don't make sense when you're paying OVER a 10% premium just to hedge for a dip within a month
never mind something like 5/21 with a 40% premium. Like lel with a crazy premium like that, you only break even when it goes down -40%... You'd be better off having a stop loss and catching the falling knife afterwards

you are a small enough player and have no restrictions (unlike fund managers) that you can just liquidate when it breaks support
Just watch the moving average because 99% of the momentum traders riding PLTR are going to take profits once it breaks under some moving average (probably on the hourly considering PLTR just IPO'd and doesn't have moving averages beyond that)

>>24117034
>If you never sell you never lose
dangerously based
Look at the 2008 and this years March recoveris. Eventually line goes up unless you invested in a total meme company that got bankrupt

hey TQQQ and SOXL anon and other leverage lovers
what happened if I held UPRO from 1997 to 2009?

>>24117018
I bought 500 shares back in September at an average of 2.56. What the fuck happened these last few weeks? I hardly open my broker and just see a giant fucking spike on Friday holy fuck I didn’t think it would go so high so fast

>>24117034
that only works for things with proven fundamentals and outlooks beyond a few years

don't hold INTC forever lel

Seriously thinking of traveling to Cali to check out the OPTI facilities and maybe bribe an employee. It would cost me 2k, no big deal.
Not larping, should I?

>>24117022
Most popular on robinhood used to be a sure sign to stay out. Now it's sort of the opposite. I don't believe it's because people have become better investors, I believe it's because this is a complete and utter clown market. I mean for gods sake look at SOLO, unless you are unironically a complete cum guzzling faggot, you aren't driving one of those. Yet the stock almost has a market cap of $1 billion. The stock market is getting ready to liquidate generations of young people. The boomers plan to fuck us one last time before dying.

when can we finally start investing into twitch streamers?

>>24116957

to take on more risk when you are young, this is a viable strategy.
more risk when you have less capital, risk down when you are older

Trump won the election

HE FUCKING WON THE ELECTION

>>24117378
Minimalism certainly has its charm but thats just pushing it with this 1 back wheel.
Whats the price tag on those shits?

MAGA TRUMP
HE WON

MAGA TRUMP WON

HE FUCKING WON RE-ELECTION

>>24111535
SLVer surfer reporting in

>>24117476
it's annoying that people will be yelling this for the next 10 years

Redpill me on PLUG.

>>24117172
it's now valued at 1000x of revenues, pretty sure it's a squeeze of some sort
hope you took profits

>>24111535
PLTR CHAD

When to sell GME?
Should I wait though the Christmas rally and sell it close to new year?

>>24117378
It's highly speculative, who knows what could catch on in other markets. Other countries don't always have such wide lanes.

It's like when you all talked shit for me buying heavily into Nintendo after a blowout 2019 for the switch. It's not about if I like the product.

>>24117499
kek it's estimated to run around $18,500

>>24116957
Because professional fund managers are often retarded, paid anyways, can not just shovel all their money around like we do and are often bound by contracts and shit.

Anyone can tell you QQQ will beat the market over the 10 years. Why should a fund manager care though? He gets paid to manage his "Low risk consumer fund" with WMT and F.

>>24117535
Right?
And telling us how much better it would have been, like the next 4-40 years aren't going to suck regardless of who's in office

>>24116666
>those satanic quads of truth

>>24117702
Don't you fucking dare compare SOLO to nintendo. Nintendo makes a reliable product that people like, SOLO makes cuck carriages that come with free sex changes with purchase.

>>24117102
If you buy a diverse range of good companies, you'll almost always do fine. Diversification is and isn't a meme. if you have 1000 dollars, then diversification is a meme. If you have 100k then it makes sense (100k is kind of low, but that lets you buy at least a few blue chips and growth stocks).

>>24115575
My life is so empty bros...

>>24116170
>NAK
Is it really?

>>24117816
>that come with free sex changes with purchase.
Damn, maybe why its made in my country. Thanks you made me decide to not sell my SOLO LEAPS.

>>24112469
Its never dipping again friendo

>>24117721

QQQ beat the market over last ten years, but people are buying it now expecting it to beat the market til 2030.
that's not how it works, it's aways very easy to tell what to do in hindsight.

>>24117816
kekkies I don't disagree but who knows

They're not Nikola, but they're not Tesla. They may have some good tech and good ideas. Maybe it has commercial uses as a device to move people from place to place.

The American consumer buys a car as part of their identity. I could see people driving it if that weren't the case.

Is it cheap?
If I needed to hire an employee who didn't have transportation, could it be cost effective to get them a shitty little SOLO just to get them to the job site?

solocos really putting thousands down on pic related

>>24116636
I've been selling covered calls at price points id be comfortable selling at, meanwhile buying more shares when it allows me to average down. If it dips in February I wasn't planning on selling then anyways, and I've been collecting premiums for 4 months by then. So far I haven't been assigned, but I set the strikes high like $22 or more. Just happy to take my $100 a week and keep accumulating :)

>>24117941
whoever made it couldn't think of other picks and didn't want to include TSM because AMD was already there
there's definitely a few other picks that are better than NAK. Even DENN is more of an honourable mention, i haven't seen a single portfolio actually holding DENN

>>24116636
Gonna buy 2k on Monday tbqh

>>24111535
>XOMbie
>CLF tranny
> RIDEr

>>24117250
Do it and report back. Ill call you based

>>24117942
If you actually have SOLO leaps and aren't just memeing, God help you.
>>24118005
Tech is going to just a bunch of people hard in the coming future. SPY would be the best buy now but TSLA being included fucking ruined the S&P 500

>>24118051
SOLOcaust for every folio involved in this meme stock coming soon

>>24118026
>>24117816
>>24117378
>>24117499
I changed my mind. I like it. I want a SOLO and a Ford F150 and I want to transport my SOLO in my Ford F150
>>24117715

But $20k is outrageous. I made $0 in 2020 so yeah I need them to give some governement subsidies or some shit.

The only real problem is pic related, can't pick up hookers in a 1-seater

>>24118026
w-where's his wiener?

>>24118137
Kek, remember the 1 billion.

>>24118005
If you go into the market expecting 100% certainty I'd suggest bonds.
We don't even know if the US stock market will even exist in 10 years just because it did for the last 100 years.

People are buying QQQ and its companies because they expect companies like Microsoft and Amazon to grow like they did in the last 10 years and heavily beat the market. And there is little doubt they will co time to do so.

"The chance exists that it could not turn out that way." without adding substance to the point of your argument is not even an argument, it's a redundant statement. Like saying "I don't know if we will really use the internet in 5 years." Like, sure, nobody knows. But without adding some substance to that sentence you don't actually say anything.

>>24118140
I dont know bro that single wheel is pig disgusting. Their designer should be fucking beheaded when their company tanks

>>24118140
They even use black people to advertise lmao

>>24118110
I think I’ll ask again tonight when all the OPTI boys start posting, I don’t really want to do it unless I get more enthusiasm, it’s a big fucken commitment but the payoff would be huge.

it's weekend /smg/. so, anyone wanna discuss strategies. both FA and TA based? anyone figure out any good way to day trade consistently? im looking for ideas as i look at charts this weekend.

Next week, what should I buy?

NIO Calls?
BYD?
GMGI?
Is there a Doordarsh ipo?

>>24118026
the company has been hinting at commercial partnerships but they haven't been specific. unpopular opinion but this would be widly successful if they lowered the price of their main model. you guys forget how many trendy faggots live in cities who would go into debt to buy these. solo also has a couple other nice looking 4 wheel vehicles in the works.
to their credit they actually have a real product rolling out into the US right now unlike half of the other 2 billion dollar EV valuations.
I think the secret they are aiming for is delivery. they haven't been specific but it appears that they aren't entirely aiming for the consumer market

I'm pretty new to stocks, just put in 8k over October and November. Started by options trading like a lot of naive people I suppose and lost some of it but got lucky on a few and decided to form a strategy other than "fuck it". Right now I hold half my portfolio in RTX, wanted a nice dividend stock that was poised to do well in a recovering market. I could've picked wrong, I'm no genius, but I like that they cover both a Neoliberal Biden war on some third world country scenario and have inroads to commercial aviation which I expect to recover over the next few years. Jumped on the RIDE dip but I don't really want it haha, I probably missed the boat on EVs and will try to unload that if it shoots up again. Other than that I'm just trying to accumulate as much PLTR as possible and holding one SPY put as a hedge. I feel smart but this is probably all dumb lol.

>>24118335
Doordash IPO coming in mid December along with AirBNB and based Roblox

>>24118265
surely there's someone else here who lives closer to the location who can check it out? that would be a new level for /biz/ imagine someone actually doing this and reporting back here and making everyone rich

>>24118224
I agree I don't think I've ever had more hatred for one product, company, or stock in my entire life. I genuinely hope the ceo of this company dies in a horrible car wreck in one of his cuck mobiles, and everyone that invested gets completely liquidated.

>>24118431
I live in Florida. Someone from Cali should do it. Maybe I can even hire a PI. It’s so much money on the line.

Did anyone talk about the fact that the passenger of a Tesla crashing at 100mph survived? Kind of impressive desu

>>24118221
>People are buying QQQ and its companies because they expect companies like Microsoft and Amazon to grow like they did in the last 10 years and heavily beat the market. And there is little doubt they will co time to do so.

this is clearly where you are wrong.
people are expecting the companies that change our society to always deliver the best returns but that is not how it works and historically that is never how it worked.

Look at Spotify it come out ten years ago and completely changed how we listen to music, but they still havent figured out how to make any money.

If you look at historic data, large cap growth like Microsoft and Amazon is favoured to lag the market the next ten years. meaning if you buy QQQ and hold it for the next ten years your expected returns are much lower then the
expected returns of the broad market.

Microsoft will no doubt still be a big company in 2030 but that doesn't mean they will deliver the best returns in the next ten years.

>>24118057
I own 1 (one) share of DENN solely so that I can DENNpost with everyone else. I should've bought more though, DENN is legitimately based and would've made me some nice money.

>>24118484
Wasnt there cases of people burning in those cars few years back though?

>>24118574
They have great Breakfasts

>>24118057
I pimped DENN for a week until I realized the bottom was going to drop out. Then this insufferable faggot who's never gonna make it started talking about DENN and kike conspiracies in the same post.

It was satisfying to watch the brainwashed get blown out. It's like that other anon said, the jew haters don't make it. They talk about shit like the 3GD's imminent collapse and jerk off to bestgore shit.

Impotent. /pol/ gets called schizos and shit but the best description for 99.99% of them is impotent and whiney.

>>24118341
>go into debt to buy these
I see it being liked by young professionals, not poor impulse-buyers

>>24118360
I wouldn't expect Biden to do anything Obama didn't. He'll just put back whatever troops trump got rid of. It's wild that trump is trying to tie his hands as much as possible at a critical time in the US-China power struggle

>>24118439
>>24118224
and their other designs?
apparently they're "in the works" and if they already have one vehicle on the market, it should be easier to get a second one or just upgrade the first one

all of this hating on solo is making me want to turn bullish... but I'm not going to do any DD so I think I'll stick with XPEV PLUG BYDDY and F

>>24118484
>Kind of impressive desu
does this not happen in other vehicles?
It's absolutely not impressive without any ratios or anything. Is this the first time in 10 100+mph crashes that someone survived, or the first in 10 million 100+mph crashes?

>>24118275
>anyone wanna discuss strategies. both FA and TA based?
sure, you start

>>24117476
>>24117521
Donald you forgot your flair and nobody reads /smg/ anyway, go back to twitter.

>>24118416
Do you think Doordarsh corona surge will be fully priced in? What do you think it will open at?

I feel like it might be an easy x3

>>24111474
whos going in on ABNB IPO

>>24118196
lol

>>24118431
I'm genuinely curious to see how OPTI plays out. I personally don't own any shar s because it's OTC trash, but I would be happy for /smg/ on the off chance that the stars align for it (kek it won't)

>>24118652
I feel like Doordash would be better for short term?

I'll bake next thread

>>24118613
>luvs kikes
>luvs thots
>luvs cuckmobiles
>ates /pol/

cant wait for you to get SOLOcausted
simple as

>>24118738
He will, that’s the best part.

>>24118777
Checked

>>24118777
CHECKED FOR SOLOCAUST

>>24118713
damn right you will

>>24118860
Rude

>>24118613
Good points, I won't elucidate my opinions on US politics at the moment as this is a stock market general but I still like RTX and the Air Defense Missle Systems they make are a good product even in a cold war scenario. A Biden Administration is definitely more hawkish than a Trump one. I'd like to get in on a 3rd position especially when I close out my put, any suggestions? Looking at oil and banks, I'm not feeling the entry into EVs right now even though thats probably the move.

Odds of a TSLA short squeeze happening?

>>24117632
Yes

Fresh
>>24118925
>>24118925
>>24118925

>>24118646
No idea my man. They haven't even decided on a share price yet so I can't tell what they "think" they're market cap is. However, I am a buyer unless it pumps like 200% on the first day like SNOW

>>24118867
I'm sorry

>>24118652
I'm buying first day and LEAP options when available but I consider it a covid recovery play therefore a long-term hold. Once this covid mumbo-jumbo virus is over and done with expect a big moon from ABNB

>>24118738
>projecting this hard
you are not my nigger, but nigger you be.

>>24116009
>>24116000
>>24115761

ok anons shilling me MOON, i will buy maybe like 50 shares on monday. I kinda like the idea. How quickly do they rotate out though. Is the ETF fairly actively managed?

>>24118538
>people are expecting the companies that change our society to always deliver the best returns but that is not how it works and historically that is never how it worked.

>Look at Spotify it come out ten years ago and completely changed how we listen to music, but they still havent figured out how to make any money
Man. You're just all over the place. Big tech, constituting the majority of QQQ, made profits for years, constantly increasing them each year together with revenue. They don't need to find a way to be profitable. They have been profitable for years.
Wtf. You want with Spotify?

>If you look at historic data, large cap growth like Microsoft and Amazon is favoured to lag the market the next ten years.
No it's not. I have no idea what you're quoting but now you went from "past indicators do not predict the future" to "this Youtuber said that in the past ..."
There is absolutely no case for Microsoft or Amazon to lag behind the market. None.

>meaning if you buy QQQ and hold it for the next ten years your expected returns are much lower then the expected returns of the broad market
And on what, pray tell, would you base that confident statement of yours?

>Microsoft will no doubt still be a big company in 2030 but that doesn't mean they will deliver the best returns in the next ten years.
That is correct. But unless computers stop to be a thing they will grow, and much faster than the earth bound companies of old that make the SP underperform compared to QQQ.

We are all looking for a way to outperform QQQ and on 4chan we are contrarians as well. But there is no argument against big tech, unless you really believe in the "big break up" or whatever. If that's the case, then sure, adjust. If you believe in some reverse 10 year patterns of historic mega cap performance and want to be a contrarian trader betting on XOM and KO? Tread lightly.

My advice: Just buy big tech. Don't try to be a hero.

>>24118140
Bro just get a motorcycle. You can have the prosthot ride pillion and you can literally just knock her off if you change your mind. Plus the added benefit of not tipping over at speed, well that is if you're not braindead.

Somebody told me VOO was a tiny bit better than SPY because of fees or dividends or something?

How come I never hear about REITS here? Should I wait until the housing crash to buy?

>>24111535
what about WORKHORSEcocks

does anyone know of a site that you can use to screen for volume on options? basically what I'm asking is for a way to not have to wait for people to post those dumb 'uNuSuAl wHaLe AcTiViTy!1!!1!!1' alerts and just start searching through volume numbers on option chains myself

>>24119960
Yahoo Finance?

>>24119718
>How come I never hear about REITS here
pretty sure /smg/ went through a REITS phase a couple of months back

>>24120087
yea, I'm a moron, just used google and realized it's not hard to find that info at all lol
>>24120252