/biz/ - Business & Finance

I like the fact that the exchange actually works, and that it can be tested.

I like how others are now trying to bandwagon the XSN approach - but are 2 years behind developmentally.

I like how the team has fucking caned it for 2 years when the price wasn't getting any love.

I love how a small amount of interest will skyrocket this price to move aggressively given so many sellers have already left.

>>23902327
>simple swap UI and infrastructure ALREADY WORKS
OMG also works dude. Having a product no one uses for more than a really short while is bearish.

>>23902538
How does omg work? Wrapped assets? Side chains?

>>23902571
It's a fully functional product no one uses. Look it up if you are interested.

>>23902583
You didn't answer my question. How does omg trade btc/eth? Onchain? Layer2?

>>23902598
It doesn't go.exchange was shut down long ago.

>>23902617
Then how does it work?

>>23902627
Holy fuck you retard. It was a comparison to another zombie project having a working product that no one uses, not comparing them feature wise. Go to their website if you want to read all about it faggot.

>>23902670
So you're just a gay xsn fudder by comparing stakenet to omg? I can tell you right now stakenet is far ahead of every other 'dex' project right now. They are the only project capable of lightning swaps atm and will be adding eth support soon.

>>23902714
Read this conversation back to yourself. How the fuck do you not catch on earlier that I wasn't shilling OMG as a competitor. Room temperature in Celsius IQ.

>>23902736
Read my previous post retard. Ssui is nearly finished testing so how could people be using it? Imagine trying to fud THE DEX.

>>23902756
yeah pass

>>23902756
His point is that if nobody uses it then it doesn't matter

>>23902512
>when the price wasn't getting any love.
it would be a first step if those retards would be able to get on a non pajeet tier exchange

>>23902767
Cope. I came in here for discussion. You mentioned omg having a working prodect, i didn't expect you to be a gay nigger and fud xsn in your first post.

>>23902784
Yeah I understand that now, turns out he is a gay fudder. The dex isn't even finished but still ahead of any competition BY FAR.

>>23902790
No big exchange will list them. Do you really think cz and co will list a project that will destroy their business in the long run? Also it's better not to waste funding on listing fees, stakenet did not have an ico.

>>23902805
gay fudders get the LGBT-rope

One of the reasons most DEXs have failed to take off is because they either use an ERC20 and build atop ETH when it's proven itself a bad choice for the job (and especially for scaling), or they are unnecessarily complicated and messy to use.
If Stakenet DEX comes out of beta with a Uniswap interface that allows trading of real assets quickly and with low fees, as opposed to slowly with intermediaries, wrapped assets, and high swap failure rates, it has a very solid chance of succeeding.
It's looking great so far.

>>23902825
CEXs just want to make money. That's why they routinely back ERC-based DEX ICOs that try to be the next big DEX. Their foremost concern is their bottom line. If they see a financial incentive in XSN, they will list it for free.

>>23902825
What is your obsession with cz? You really think he gives a fuck?

Any other cex could list them, there’s a lot out there. I wonder what Stakenet shills will say in 4 years when it’s still a shit show

>>23902960
I seriously doubt that we will ever see XSN on any BIG exchanges (coonbase, binance etc), whether it succeeds or not.

>>23902858
The simple swap is nearly finished testing in the closed beta, expecting to see eth soon.
>>23903005
>4 more years
So you're one of 'those' fudders. Binance is one of the largest CEXs. And yes he does give a fuck. XSN wakes him up in the night.

>>23903022
Checked. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
If it gains enough traction, the odds of at least one major exchange picking it up would go up a lot.
With DEX traffic increasing as much as it has, I think we've also come to a point where CEXs aren't nearly as relevant as they used to be. Projects don't have to worry about kissing rings and hoping to get a make or break listing.
If DEXs continues to pull traffic away, you'd more than likely see CEXs begin to list any and everything they previously didn't bother with to stay fresh.
I don't think they value pride above profit. That will ultimately work out to XSN's advantage.

>>23902538
I have spent some time trying products, and from what I head the OMG stuff was just not as... easy as it could be.

Do you have any views, beyond the lack of users, that lead to OMG infrastructure failing?


SSUI hasn't yet launched publically, but for me the make or break is if they can gather users over time like Uniswap or trickle to 0.

I have questions that I haven't seen addressed. In short: How will ETH 2.0 effect the future of XSN?

Could ETH 2.0 potentially fix what XSN is trying to fix and therefore making Stakenet obsolete?
or
Could the ETH 2.0 rollout set back Stakenet's plans years? Say if it somehow ruins Raiden implementation or something like that for ERC20's.
Thanks.

Guys Injective Protocol is where the game is happening, I'm excited about the project's growth. The biggest surprise is coming, as injective will be launching testnet soon, y'all welcome

>>23903287

>Could ETH 2.0 potentially fix what XSN is trying to fix and therefore making Stakenet obsolete?

I don't beleive so. No matter how you change an onchain transaction there is a hard limit - even with Eth 2.0. They are trying to raise that limit, and it is a struggle. But even then, uniswap volume would have crushed the network.


>Could the ETH 2.0 rollout set back Stakenet's plans years? Say if it somehow ruins Raiden implementation or something like that for ERC20's.
Don't see how it would DESU, the rollout ruining current integration on chain would be hugely damaging to ETH. Nothing in their roleout plan would make me think Raiden would be materially set back.

>>23903210
OMG were too early and bet on the wrong horse. It turned out maybe plasma wasn't so great for normal users, and now rollups are the hot thing for that as they stay on the mainchain while providing savings. This is reflected in their pivot towards exchange use but I don't see that happening either. Beyond that, it has the same issue as xDAI: You have to make a transaction to enter the system, so even though it's cheaper you need to make, say, 10 transactions to be in the green which most people just don't do. This leads to a death spiral based on feedback between lack of users users and lack of liquidity. Possibly OMG could have been or will be salvaged by watcher services, swap in/out for cheaper/faster on and offboarding, and guaranteed liquidity by dedicated liquidity providers.

>>23903287
People have asked the same questions about Raiden Network. ETH 2 would certainly be more robust, but Raiden will still have the upper hand in terms of fees, tx time, and native interop.
L2 is a lot more convenient for swapping between real BTC/ETH/ERC20s without using wrapped assets or placeholder tokens.
Assuming ETH 2 is fast, it's still at the mercy of BTC tx times and fees whenever a swap is done at L1.

>>23903591
To add, ETH's primary function is executing smart contracts. Even if ETH 2 is more capable, it seems unwise to spam it's blockchain with a flood of excess txs. Use of L1, be it BTC or ETH, should be as well-optimized as possible. Like an old computer with little RAM to spare.

>>23902327
Daily reminder: nobody cares about this. You can shill as much as possible but price and volume is always dogshit. Has been like this for years.

>>23902670
You cant compare Ethereum and ERC20 DEX with Stakenet that does BTC, XMR trades on top of all possible ETH assets..

>>23903668
Of course you can compare like that when the comparison isn't based on the technology in question. You can compare and contrast a farming operation with a smart phone maker.

>>23903667
There are far more masternodes supporting the network now than ever. Even from the time XSN hit 50 cents/4.8k sat. As it crashed (along with UNI and all the DeFi stuff), MN count only continued to climb.
>>23903668
>XMR
Stakenet DEX has no direct XMR support at this point, but xmr.to has LN BTC support so you can get Monero quickly thanks to fast transfer times.

is xsn really only worth it when you run nodes?

>>23904045
Like any other coin you can hold it regardless

>>23903667
>Daily reminder: nobody cares about this
Clearly you do since you are in this thread fudding.
>>23904045
You can stake, you do not need to run a node. long term even having a few thousand xsn will make you a fair amount.

XSN Marines will come from Biz. We gonna be BizLamboTards

>>23904277
but like, at what opportunity cost, you guys are talking about those nodes as if they were actual moneymakers, would you rather flip the coin or really hold that mn forever.

>>23904669
You can stake, either on the cloud (pooled), TPoS or in xsn core.

>>23904695
is the pooled cloud staking safe? It's prolly third party right?

>>23904708
The cloud site is run by the devs, so it's centralised. Although I would say it's safer than keeping your coins on a CEX. Also the cloud has a limit of 10k for rewards. So If you have more than 10k xsn on the cloud you won't get any rewards.

>>23904724
How do you earn wallet staking rewards? I've had a couple thousand XSN sitting in my local wallet . connected 24/7 to the internet, for ages and haven't seen anything.

>>23903200
I do see what you mean. I think that by the time XSN gets big traction it will be because the DEX is in a more complete state than currently, so people will just buy it off the DEX, rather than need to flock to a CEX.

>>23906055
You have to start staking.

https://stakenet.info/staking/

I recommend reading this. If you still aren't sure what to do then go the discord and ask in there. The team will be happy to help.

I could smell you lot before i saw your thread in the catalog.

Look at me stakie

YOUVE BEEN RUGGED
THEYVE BEEN SAYING SOON FOR 3 YEARS ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

Look at the price smart holders sold at 50 cents. sometimes you just need to cut your losses.

>>23906993
Cope fudder.

>>23902327
Polkadot is better
why this XSN trash even exist?

>>23907710
Cope, side chains are bad.

>>23907980
DOT is already valued in the Billions last time I checked.
Gavin wipes his ass with your shitcoin

>>23908038
Cope is still cope.

>>23908046
DOT is rank 8, I cant hear you from up here you jeet.

>>23908100
Imagine thinking the current ranks matter.

>>23908108
You will never get up there
stay poor jeet, your village will starve.

>>23908164
Cope, XSN will eventually be rank 2.

>>23908171
Your forgot a couple zeros.
Rank 2000 is more realistic as the shitcoin slowly croaks.
Gavin is dancing polka on your asses.

>>23908223
Kys roach.

>>23908223
Faggot

>>23908229
>>23908442
poojeets
Polka is superior

>>23908462
No its not, it's just another shitcoin.

>>23908469
XSN is a shitcoin and your skin is brown like fresh dogshit.
Better buy DOT.

>>23908540
Cope turk roach. I am white, very white like a new born baby. You on the other hand have the colour and smell of shit.

>>23908554
you are not white and you will never be.
>turk roach.
haha are you turkish or what? projecting self hating shitskin confirmed

>>23908597
Lol you will never be white you shitskin.

>>23908618
serve me a kebap self hating roach.

>>23908690
Kebab are fucking shit, have you seen the meat they use? It's fucking low quality, i can't believe people like that shit.

>>23908721
dont talk so bad about the single source of income you have. if your Father Mustafa hears this he will be very dissapoint and you wont get to inherit the family business.

>>23908618
The polka shills are really intellligent wow! I definitely feel threatened as a XSN holder.
>YOU SMELL LIKE POO AND AREN'T WHITE!
Kys retard

>>23908786
>YOU SMELL LIKE POO AND AREN'T WHITE!
yes thats you. buy DOT you fucking loser.

>>23908859
I'm okay thanks. Enjoy your gains from buying into a $4B MC

>>23908963
already enjoying my gains.
how about you? XSN has only dumped since its inception.

>>23909074
I'm doing alright thank you. You realise a lot of us here are massively up on XSN?

>>23909074
>XSN has only dumped since its inception.
Also completely untrue lol

>>23909134
>>23909160
the chart looks like absolute dogshit
it trades on no exchanges and it keeps dumping
you must hold really heavy bags Lmao.

>>23909300
Okay, you don't like the chart, but the fundamentals are the same and they are strong. If you know anything about XSN you know that they have great potential for the future.

>>23909417
2 years and nothing to show for. DOT seems like a better bet. ETH 2.0 wont work and DOT is already in the top 10, top 5 is realistic and DOT is also listed on many exchanges and you can even margin trade it.
whats this XSN shitcoin even trying to accomplish? seems like its only been dumping.

>>23909494
It’s trying to get old tech to work. It’s the literal version of flogging a dead horse

>>23909494
Right so you admit to knowing fuck all about XSN yet providing criticism on it?
Stakenet are making a L2 DEX running on MNs, a multicurrency wallet, that is lightning capable with interchain compatibility. It got hyped a lot over the summer from crypto noobs and it's come back down. The real hype hasn't even started yet. When the DEX develops and releases the hype will be much stronger. If the DEX fully releases and there's no price increase then I'll take your point that I should have bought DOT. To me XSN is a risk worth taking.

>>23909652
more like it got old tech to work properly where everyone else was wasting time with new tech that didnt do shit.

You faggots are all going to cry when half the board screams xsn.

>>23903169
>expecting to see eth soon.
wait, what? Eth is not being tested in the closed beta? LOL

>>23910069
Well no lmao, it’s not possible

That’s why you know the webm of xsn/wETH is fake. It’s literally made on Sony Vegas lol

>>23902327
>ALREADY WORKS
if i cant use it its not working.
and thats THAT

>>23910823
Let's call its a working prototype yet to fully launch :)

>>23910697
Proof?

>>23911078
Proof of the eth transaction in the webm moving to layer 2?

>>23911176
Proof it's fake and created on Sony Vegas

>>23910885
you can do that but it will only exist for me if its out

>>23911241
>created on Sony Vegas
I would've laughed at this 2 months ago, but now I'm thinking it's "plausible".

>>23902512
>>23902327
COPE. ITS GOING TO ZERO
AHAHAHAAAHAHA

>>23910697
>>23911241
>>23911806
>sony vegas
lmao
The Raiden devs have attested to X9's progress on multiple occasions. They have one of the most active githubs in crypto.

>>23911241
LOL
what a shitcoin


I told you dumb niggers to buy DOT instead and not fake transaction made in sony vegas shitcoin

>>23912240
>2 years
>no results

its called Vaporware, right up there with scam shitizen
better dont invest in Scamnet

>>23912386
Let's see. Who do I trust more? The dev team that helped LTC integrate Lightning and collaborates with the Raiden devs, or some angry 16 posts by this ID polka shill who seethes in broken English on a Mongolian waterboarding consortium? Decisions, decisions.
3 new masternodes - 45k XSN - just since Wednesday, despite all of you foaming at the mouth at the mere mention of this coin.

>>23912531
wow 2703 nodes that do nothing
buy DOT shitskin

>>23902327
you dont see the actual problem
normies dont what to exchange anything
what they own is what they want to use any exchange bystep of a transaction for them is a hurdle

>>23912579
>if i keep screaming pajeet, maybe they'll buy my bags
I'll pass, thanks. I'm doing my part to make sure America keeps a competitive edge against northwest Europe on the masternode map.
https://stakenet.info/masternodes/global

>>23912386
>BTC took more than 2 seconds to reach ATH SHITCOIN SCAM VAPORWARE!!!!!! pls buy dot I'm really really fat and ugly and I smell a bit funny
Mate you are a joke why are you shilling a $4B MC coin on a thread about a $13M? XSN hasn't even started yet you chud. Ask a useful question, make valid criticism, or click catalog and fuck off.

>>23912531
>The dev team that helped LTC integrate Lightning
Please post a Litecoin source link that proves this (=announcement that is not written by someone in XSN)

>>23912776
https://coinrivet.com/the-litecoin-foundation-is-looking-to-bring-one-click-atomic-swaps-to-the-lightning-network/

>>23912639
Uniswap proved otherwise, anon. DEXs have a lot of growth potential over the next few years.
>>23912776
Sure
http://litecoin-foundation.org/lightning-network-collaboration-with-x-9-developers/
>The Litecoin Foundation has formalized a collaboration with X9 Developers in the maintenance, debugging, and hardening of ltcd and potentially other Lightning Network(LN) technologies. X9 Developers are a blockchain agnostic dev team whose founders are the core developers and fully funded by Stakenet (XSN).

>>23912776
Take a comfortable position and watch as the shills fail to provide evidence.

>>23912844
You forgot to change your ID retard
How can one post age so poorly so fast?
>>23912830 >>23912841

Literally 0 proof provided that they developed anything for Litecoin. A blogpost announcement of an announcement is the best you can do?

>>23912830
Unironically the tweet link goes to a 404. Could it be, that despite the announcement of an announcement, they ended up developing _NOTHING_ for Litecoin? Surely not!

Did I just expose the biggest scam the shills have been pushing for the past 2 years? Oh nononoo!!!!

>>23913015
Works fine for me, think you've just got Indian-tier internet fag

>>23912951
>>23913015
>a statement directly from the Litecoin Foundation's website isn't proof that X9 collaborated with the LTC devs
kek

>>23913045
Nope, sorry faggot.

Here is the inside story sort of without revealing my secret source.

>XSN slowed down a bit because they signed a deal with a huge entity in the crypto space.
>Due to contacts signed they are unable to talk about the deal right now.
>That’s why ETH/ERC20 has taken longer than expected as they had to move staff onto this new deal.
>ETH/ERC20 integration however is still on track to be complete by December.
>This deal was signed early September and since then 70% of dev team has been working on it and it’s about to be revealed.
>This deal will pump billions with a B of daily volume through the DEX alone.
>The reason this deal came about is a legal one as regulations take control and XSN provides the perfect platform for this “company” to avoid being hit by them due to the nature of its network.

I expect the first part of this deal to be announced soon as the XSN dev team has already delivered what was asked of them so after final review and checks at least some of it should announced

>>23913059
Didn’t even expect you go grasp the idea of a tweet inside the article. Room temperature iq.

>>23913090
It’s an announcement. They ended up developing nothing. Incompetence.

>>23913107
HAHA yikes boss got me there

>>23913151
Why on God's good green earth would Litecoin announce it if XSN weren't doing anything? Seethe away

>>23913106
Imagine having to resort to this low level “my bags just signed Google” elevator pitch, lmao. I’ve seen this shit on every dead coin here.

>>23913151
>demands evidence of a collab from a LTC source
>give exactly that
>i-it didnt say what i wanted it to say - SCAM
Can you present us any evidence that backs up what you're saying? That they developed "nothing"? That burden of proof lies solely on you.
Here's a video of BTC being swapped into LTC on Layer 2 to further prove the work they've done.

>>23913253
Easy—just post something that proves they ended up developing, literally anything, for ltc.

>>23913322
The greatest 2 contributors to litecoin on Github are also the greatest 2 contributors to XSN's github:
XSN github https://github.com/X9Developers/XSN/graphs/contributors
LTC github https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/graphs/contributors

>>23913376
You’re embarrassing yourself. They are Bitcoin core upkeepers, thus code is referenced to LTC & XSN

This is not the first time some.XSN knuckledragger tried to claim that BTC devs are actively developing Turknet. Lmao you are desperate.

>>23913303
Didn't LTC tweet something about this?
May try and dig it out later

>>23913478
>>23913525
>direct links to LTC websites don't count
>github repositories don't count
>the LN infrastructure that you can use right now via the DEX to swap BTC and LTC doesn't count
Keep going. The mental gymnastics you've displayed have only made a stronger and stronger case for XSN.

>>23913525
You are spending a lot of time here for such an avid XSN hater. Keep going mate. Waste all your time talking to us so when XSN moons you'll realise how many opportunities you had to buy and commit toaster bath.

>>23913594
Where are the repos? You mean those links with bitcoin core devs? It’s almost like you’re intentionally lying.

Just post the proof. Should be easy, after all you guys have been pushing this narrative for 2 years.

>>23913554
LTC Foundation tweet
https://twitter.com/LTCFoundation/status/1075747217925922816

LTC-centric medium
https://litecoindotcom.medium.com/litecoin-foundation-x9-devs-partner-to-support-ltcd-and-lightning-network-19c37db23d70
>This partnership is aimed at aiding in the maintenance, debugging, and hardening of ltcd, an alternative full node implementation of Litecoin and potentially other Lightning Network(LN) technologies.

Charlie Lee even retweeted the news of this collab back when it happened.

>>23913696
>>23913721
Of all the ways to fud XSN, using their dev history with Litecoin is probably the worst possible approach.

>>23913721
LTC pushed the narrative, not us shills

>>23913261
They've already used this line and continue to flog it. It happens when wear out their "FUD/seethe more CZ" retorts. I see them pull this "something big is happening behind the scenes" angle occasionally to compensate the usual lack of originality.

>>23902327
>>23902327
>held since $0.13 in 2019
>held through $0.50 in 2020
>now back below where I bought in
>Raiden still "soon" and "just around the corner" with no firm date for literally anything
>meanwhile Uniswap, Sushiswap, Rune Network all establishing themselves as reliable DEXs
>every time I bring up that other DEXs are already up and running and fully launched I get dismissed as FUD even though I've probably been holding longer than half the people here

At this point it's sunk cost so I'm not selling but I want to encourage everyone who hasn't bought in yet reading this thread not to buy. The community around XSN is delusional. It's not that the tech they promise won't be great if its delivered, its that the team refuses to give a specific date for anything. For all we know Raiden might not be released for another two years.
And at this point even if they do release, what's the go to market? It was one thing in 2019 where the only other DEXs were like BISQ and Blocknet, but now there's dozens of others. How exactly is XSN going to get market share? I really hope it works out, and its way too late for me to justify selling at anything less than a 10x, but buyer beware this is a shitcoin that's been in development for years with no progress and the community and team refuse to acknowledge that they're losing the race to be the dominant DEX handily.

>>23913771
Lol, you just keep posting the *announcement of an announcement*. They ended up doing 0.

>>23913866
Nah, you're just being obtuse on purpose as if anything you were insisting 10 minutes ago hasn't been proven wrong in multiple ways. You're free to keep vehemently denying that you've been proven wrong by a mountain of evidence. You just want to throw a fit.
>>23913846
In 2019, XSN was the only DEX building on L2. Now everyone is following in their steps, a year or more late.

Ukrainian freelancer devs doing ctrl+c ctrl+v development, with a paki shoveling them money, all while turkroach bagholders shill for them on biz. What could go wrong?

>>23913975
>following in their steps
How can you follow something that was never there in the first place? Isn’t this the definition of schizophrenia?

>>23913975
>Now everyone is following in their steps, a year or more late.
Yeah and you know what the difference is? Other DEXs have volume, they have customers and DAUs.
The point that the guy >>23902538 made is legit. It doesn't matter if you have the best tech, even 100X better than your competitors, if you don't ever get market share. In order to have customers, in order to have market share, you have to do things in a reasonable time frame. You have to actually release a product. You can't just keep saying "just around the corner" forever and make announcements about upcoming announcements.
The vision is great, but that's only part of a project.

XSN development is so slow. empty promises, never deliver

>>23914131
>Psychotic schizo fuds on an XSN thread, seething for hours on end
>Calls others schizophrenic.
LMAO dude you're great

>>23914191
Seems to be coming along well enough to me. Their communication is a bit autistic but I’m not surprised from blockchain developers

>>23914287
3 years development for a BTC-XSN vendor in beta. You have very low life expectations if you're content with this kind of progress.

>>23914088
>angry shill that's too dumb to switch IDs to make the conversations he has with himself appear more genuine shrieks about turks for the 80th time
Keep going. This is a good way to talk up XSN's dev history.
Here's the state of XSN/LTC swaps in late 2018, just a few weeks prior to the partnership between the LTC Foundation and X9 being formalized
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjuSurGkLQ

Here's the state of swaps once they hardened LN swaps with LTC and branched out to a BTC/LTC pair in late 2019
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLq7xIjf_hc

Here's the DEX orderbook for LTC/BTC activity in-real time
>https://orderbook.stakenet.io/monitor/ltc_btc
Low volume, but it works because of what X9 built.

>>23914131
>never there in the first place
Only if you keep pretending that their DEX which does trustless LN swaps, that you can download right now and use to do swap BTC and LTC doesn't exist, then sure. Keep looking for palm trees in the Arctic, if you'd like.
>>23914138
XSN/BTC has $35k in 24h trading volume. Looks pretty good to me, especially for a wallet still in beta.
https://orderbook.stakenet.io/monitor/xsn_btc

>>23914506
>XSN/BTC has $35k in 24h trading volume. Looks pretty good to me, especially for a wallet still in beta.
Devs are running trading bots, everyone knows this. Why are you trying to convey that there's actual volume?

>>23914568
Whether that's true or not, I fail to see what difference it makes.
The important thing is that Stakenet DEX is scaling very well with increased stress-testing on liquidity. It handles $35k in volume as painlessly as it handled $20k and as it handled $200.
The model is proving itself to be quite robust.

>>23914506
LOL only 26 nodes?

>>23914841
beta is beta

>>23914677
>Whether that's true or not,
>with increased stress-testing on liquidity.
burn in hell Jopark

>>23914841
XSN has some of the most reliable nodes in the Lightning Network.
>>23915027
Not quite the best way to sidestep the argument of the DEX being able to handle increasingly intense amounts of liquidity. I'm not part of the team. I do find it weird that you're all so compelled to stalk the project and that you're intimately familiar with it and the few publicly known staff members when, according to you, this project isn't even worth looking into.

>>23915292
26 nodes isnt much

>>23915338
The plan they laid out months ago continues to come to fruition.
>start small with intense scrutiny and stress-testing
>build up and out from there
>migrate to multiple hubs
All part of the eventual migration to the MN network.

Is the orderbook still hosted on a website?

>>23915504
I think so.
https://orderbook.stakenet.io
Full orderbook integration is expected to happen when the MN network is upgraded to Hydra.
Fortunately, it doesn't jeopardize anyone's funds.

>>23915749
If Hydra comes out before Q2 2021 the GBR will start

do i need to somehow create IP addresses for more then 1 aas masternodes ?

what is gbr

>>23915800
Checked. The GBR is already starting. We're in the early phases.
Right now, the markets are similar to how they were in late 2016.
Idk if we'll have Hydra by that point but the whole DeFi market will probably experience something similar to the ICO bubble

>>23915944
Checked and no. With MNaaS you can run multiple MNs from one wallet.
>>23915993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1j5lzT2pVU

>>23915993
Something Bull Run

Buy pressure building up.
All the XSN for sale on Livecoin is equivalent to 2.5% of the XSN locked in the ever-growing number of masternodes.

>>23902960
>erc-based
and therein lies the rub.

BTC-stable arb does billions in volume every day. alt trading is small potatoes in comparison (albeit growing).

xsn is fundamentally different, as it allows instant BTC trades. even though there are no stable pairs right now, most cexes see the potential, and as a result will never provide direct liquidity to their largest competitors.

>>23912776
>>23912844
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>>23914131

Cope nigger

>>23903005
>you really think he gives a fuck?
someone at binance certainly does (pic related)

>>23917105
Oh yeah I remember this. Good times.
>>23915993
Golden Bull Run

>>23916928
>BTC-stable arb
Interesting point. I've heard the argument that XSN is essentially DeFi for Bitcoin via L2.
There have been a few attempts at trying to build on BTC from L1 with Scrypt, but it's ultimately a futile and very expensive pursuit.
All the DeFi projects revolve around wrapped assets. XSN is in a unique position of native fluency between wBTC and LN BTC and I think that will pay off immensely.
I wonder if there's been any progress migrating Tether to LN. Bitfinex has been talking about that for ages.
>>23917105
Kek

>>23916055
Also checked. I wasn’t around for the that run as I’m quite a young chap but the DeFi rat race this summer, combined with the regulatory development and consoomer adoption this next year (PayPal being a bit starter to this) looks as though it will make crypto accessible to people who are possibly even more stupid than me. Could definitely be GBR fuel..

>>23917325
https://cointelegraph.com/news/slippery-slope-as-new-bitcoin-mining-pool-censors-transactions/amp
This is probably going to turn into one of the biggest fights within crypto if it isn't put in it's place early.
Definitely bullish for Monero.
This could make the difference between BTC freeing the world from the iron-grip of the central banks - a sovereign individual scenario - vs. one where the very thing used to make people free is used to enslave them.
Especially relevant as that blacklist would become a major authority on which BTC can and cannot be spent and could be subject to change.
Silk Road BTC? Invalid... until the government seizes it and auctions it off. Then, it's valid.

>>23913106
Based.

>>23917776
>Definitely bullish for PirateChain
FTFY

>>23917890
Be free from the grip of the Pharaoh,
with unknown amounts of Monero

>>23913106
Based and XSNpilled.
Insider here, the team did mention in September that there was big announcement regarding partnership and more. We might find out this month.
>>23914506
Absolutely beautiful.

>>23918220
Kek. I hope it's no larp.
Reminds me of the VB.ETH conspiracy

>>23916928
>>23916959
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>>23917325
>>23918220
fyi no one buys this inorganic circlejerk, it's super obnoxious

>>23918456
Good I hope you don't buy. You deserve to miss out what's coming.

>>23918456
Kys. I see you fudders still cant fud.
>P-provide proof!
>Nooooo you cant just provide proof
>It's not real
>Fake
>SCAM

>>23913106
what kind of deal, what partner?

x9 is pretty much L2 solutions the team - maybe they're helping implement lightning on xmr?

Just woke up, these fudders are fucking gay.

>>23918456
lol buy it or don't idgaf

I have no interest in proving I'm not a bot to some fudder on a kazakhstani goat trading platform

>>23918719
yeah they're trash. easy to ignore, but I'll bait them a bit to keep the thread bumped

>>23918868
but anon they need to save /biz/ from this one particular thread
they think they're heroes

>>23918699
Checked. Missed this earlier.
XMR devs have shown interest in developing an L2 solution in the past. Til then, LN BTC -> xmr.to and done.

>>23919895
I prefer this one

>>23914377
How long exactly has eth 2.0 and sharding been in development now?

>>23920776
kek.

>>23920858
/biz/ was hyping up Casper 4 years ago.
XSN didn't even exist at the time and for all their progress and contributions to LN, you still have all these prominent figureheads in crypto that snub it.
>>23920872
Jannies are known to hate vortexes.