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23882537 No.23882537 [Reply] [Original]

Hi /biz/

Let me say right off the bat that this is a thread for anons with 6-7 figs in crypto, who generally speaking consider themselves 'lone wolves' and are not a part of any of those insider telegram/discord groups so they generally don't get a shot at good deals.

I want these people because:
1. They have a longer time horizon, and can tolerate locking capital for a while.
2. They don't come with the baggage of (frankly) psychopathic 'insider' types would would fuck their mother over for a quick flip.

To cut things short, we always see 'new uniswap listings', and we're rightfully skeptical of them. By the time we see them, it's either 1. a rug, or 2. is a token which had 'seed' investment a year ago, and the founders just want to dump on us. I’m working on a project at the moment which has potential to create a lot of buzz, but as with anything, I want to make sure it's worth my time. To do this, I want to build a list initial contributors. How you guys contribute is up to you. You either fund development directly, buy the product, or commit a certain amount of capital to a whitelisted presale on a bonding curve (at a 10x discount of the last buyers).

I want to spend a couple of weeks working on something in secret, with feedback from the closed group. The initial members effectively become the seed investors, I'll build the thing, and then we do an ICO direct to biz on a bonding curve which rapidly increases the cost of the asset. At that point, the system should be interesting enough for others to jump on the boat, and by the time it hits mainstream CT, biz should be all cashed out and we can leave CT to do the high risk trades.

>> No.23882547

To be clear, I'm not proposing a rug pull. This will be a legit project. I don't want to dox myself, but I have lots of experience building enterprise software, and I think it should be possible to release something which can turn a profit within 2 months, and also have enough viral potential to hit mainstream Crypto Twitter.

If you are interested, drop me an email at: doomp_it@protonmail.com

Full disclosure, I’ll be looking to sell it for approx 200k-300k USD, which is not that crazy when you look at some of the projects which have raised 7 figures this year for farming (literal) memecoins.
This will include me operating and monitoring the thing/being around to answer question and debug any potential issues. I’ll be as interested to see it succeed as the rest of you, as it's something which will provide at least a few iterations of value if it takes off, and also provide me an invaluable CV stuffer for transitioning in to blockchain development fulltime.

>> No.23882587

>>23882537
Is this 2017?

Bro I’m not investing in some shitcoin ICO pre seed round. I just need a 2x to make it this bull run. You are suggesting financial suicide

>> No.23882607

This is the age of decentralisation. There enough big wallets out there to take a punt on novel ideas, and make a decent ROI.

There's literally zero reason we need to be leaving innovation to outside actors anymore, we can do it ourselves, and then WE are the insiders.

I hope to hear from a handful of you. I'll come back and bump once or twice for exposure.

>> No.23882634

>>23882537
gtfo here pajeet

>> No.23882641

>>23882587

See point 1. from "I want these people because"

I've been monitoring big wallet during this run, and I've seen criminal amounts of money wasted on farming memes. An anon with a 3 million USD wallet has no problem committing 20k as a group of 10 to something like this, I'm sure of it. Some of them make 10k on farming meme tokens per day.

>> No.23882664

>>23882634
Not Pajeet, westerner (europe more exactly). If I don't get funding, I'm still launching it myself.

>> No.23882688

>>23882664
When I say 'myself', I actually mean I have a public group I'll be releasing it to, but I'd rather release it completely anon as there are some legal particulars which I'd rather avoid if at all possible.

>> No.23882690

>>23882641
why do you need 100k investment?

>> No.23882703

>t. dude trust me

show us a working product first you scamming faggot

>> No.23882724

>>23882703
am working on product but am from the third world so I'd need around 10k funding
I'd doxx myself if it works but since one of the rules is no to self promotion what do you recommend
it's blockchain-based but no ICO or none of that shit

>> No.23882745

>>23882547
you are proposing a rug pull faggot kys and go back to your faggot discord tenant server cock sucker

>> No.23882747
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23882747

>lone wolf
have fun staying poor, youre either in the group or youre not

>> No.23882772

>>23882690
i mean, why do you need 200k investment? you can deploy a contract and make a website for about max $300

>> No.23882779

>>23882724
so because you are from the third world you need ten fucking thousand US dollars up front. makes complete sense. man you really are the genius software dev you claimed you were. sent ;)

>> No.23882814

>>23882690
Because I'm going to be building it for another few weeks, and I want to know I have some funds ready to go in to the bonding curve. You don't even have to pay me directly, just agree to be the first in to the sale.

>>23882703
You'll see it, eventually, by then you may be paying a 50% premium though.

>>23882747
I'm already in one of those types of groups, but I'd rather not have them involved as I said before.

>> No.23882820

>>23882779
...
I did not say upfront
I legit asked since I'm working on a project would it be okay to ask here? since it's against the rules
read correctly man

>> No.23882840

>>23882772
I'll be footing the bill for hosting and running it, but in order to get the idea off the ground and self propagating I need to know that there are some whales ready to put Eth in to the curve.

I mentioned that only one of the options is buying the system from from (IE, you guys get set as founder addresses). Another way to benefit is being whitelisted to be first in to the sale and get 10x more tokens than the last buyer.

>> No.23882866

>>23882724
You're kind of hi-jacking the thread here my man, but if yours has no ico, then why do you need 10k?

My idea literally hinges on that first injection of capital

>> No.23882887

>>23882866
alright then good luck
I just need money for ETH transactions at first, some for hosting and hiring some devs
am working on this on my own and make 200$ per month so can't afford anything else

>> No.23882895

btw, to those wondering why I'm just asking for potential investors, I've also considered making a farming clone and using that fremium model to dump on others as many other teams have done, but I'm just not that type of person.

>> No.23882913

>>23882895
As a 4 figure anon how can I benefit from this?
>tfw want to make it one day

>> No.23882930

Assuming I want to get in, at what stage am I going to learn what the project is about?

>> No.23882946

>>23882887
Be careful you don't get ripped off man. Coming from a dev, if you don't know the ins and outs of solidity development and what's possible vs not possible, you'll get ripped off by incompetent devs for trivial stuff.

Before setting in to this, I made sure I had 40k USD to keep me floating and paying costs for at least a year, which is about 10x the amount of time I anticipate this will take to get off the ground and prove/disprove the thesis.

>> No.23882990

>>23882537
poc or gtfo

>> No.23882994

>>23882946
I've worked as a solidity dev for two years
worry not about me
I won't hijack the thread, good luck

>> No.23883007

>>23882913
As per the OP, I'm going to shill this thing on biz first once the curve is live, and we'll also be setting up a discord to do a bit of community building around that time.

Feel free to email the protonmail in the OP and we'll add you to a list to get notified when we go live.

>>23882930
This is a question I keep asking myself. I'm slightly paranoid the idea will be taken, so I want to get the list of people together first, and then divulge details of product once it's finished. That way, if people get cold feet, we can still launch a week later and let it run regardless.

>> No.23883043

>>23882990
It's a fair point, a proof of work sort of thing. I also have incentive to get the thing finished before taking money (if it comes to that) as per my reply in >>23883007

>> No.23883127

I didn't mention in the OP either, but I have relationships with some big hitters on CT, and also a very dedicated and capable community manager who's going to quit his job once this thing goes in to full swing.

Obviously everything is a gamble, but with BTC on it's way to potentially an ATH by christmas, the timing on this will be perfect I think.

>> No.23883160

>>23883127
>I didn't mention in the OP either, but I have relationships with some big hitters on CT, and also a very dedicated and capable community manager who's going to quit his job once this thing goes in to full swing.
Yeah I was kinda with you until now, but this is bullshit. If this was real you'd just get funding from them instead of begging on biz.

>> No.23883251

>>23883160
That's the plan. But I really don't want to have to deal with them. I'd much rather be anon until the end of the project, and then disappear.

The contracts are not going to have admin keys, so once the first iteration is a success I'll be open sourcing the UI and letting it go on its way.

If the model proves to be a success, we'll likely see forks/clones anyway, but if it gets to that point, then the initial members have already made it.

>> No.23883461

>>23883251
>and then disappear.

>>23882547
>invaluable CV stuffer

I feel like you're feeding me shit
the things you're saying simply don't add up

>> No.23883522

So, that's it for this thread.
I encourage anyone who is mildly interested to give that email a ping.

If you've been monitoring wallets this year, you'll know already that the key to making it now is by participating in ethereum projects. You'll also be aware that ROI is not always correlated to effort put in by the devs.

Some of the highest ROI projects this year were cobbled together using existing projects, or simply acted as aggregators on top of other protocols.

Good luck, Frens, YFI looked completely harmless when it first launched, and only having one dev behind it didn't matter. What mattered was the pragmatic approach, and ability to design a token which quickly accrues value.

>> No.23883562

>>23883461

I don't need to make my identity known to the general internet in order to prove to some employer that I own the private keys which launched the contracts. Hell, a crypto employer would love that type of credential.

>> No.23883610

>>23883562
but you're no longer anon once someone knows the connection between you and your identity

>> No.23883664

>>23883461
Also, look, like I said I'm not going to be asking for money until the product is finished. At that point there will be a full breakdown of functionality, and the release will follow one week from then. At that point we will ask for contributions, but until then it's simply important for us to realise that we have a book of high balance accounts who are going to have eyes on us to get the ball rolling.

If you email me, and link the wallet you own with a signed TX to prove ownership, you'll be on that list.

>> No.23883702

>>23883610

If the project is a success, I will of course use it as a reference if I am in a job interview. I said in the OP that it's not a rug, so I'll have no problem associating my name with it.

From your point of view, I'd expect you to care more about the finished product and game theory than who exactly I am.

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>>23882547
>To be clear, I'm not proposing a rug pull.
>If you are interested, drop me an email at: doomp_it@protonmail.com
>doomp_it@protonmail.com
>doomp_it
>I don't want to dox myself,
HAHAHAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
HAHAHAAHAHAH

>> No.23884475

>>23882537

You would reaaaaaally want to plug your github before asking for money lol. Also, every single person with any decent money is in a tg/ twitter group as we’ve made frens along the way.

Get out of here lmao. I’m 1.3 mill atm, and I wouldn’t bother throwing you 10k. This is confido 2.0 lol

>> No.23884548

>>23884361

It's a burner email, and all the good cypherpunk sounding names were taken :)

>>23884475
If you want to test my programming credentials, then just ask me questions. If you can code yourself, then you'll have no problems asking me questions, if you can't code, then my github would be no use to you anyway since I could fork just about anything and do a ctrl+r on some key terms.

I'm under no illusion that our credibility will be either solidified or disproven when we release the product and start asking for contributions.

>> No.23884582

>>23882814
obviously, or else you wouldnt be rich right now

>> No.23884821

>>23882537
I'm a developer. Can I join?

>> No.23885013

>>23884821

We already have enough skills to bring our idea to completion, but if you want to forward on your skills to the email above, we'll definitely consider it. I myself have solidity + front end work covered, and we don't anticipate the need for any backend API work or database work as we are keeping as much on chain as possible. The only 3rd party integration we are running will be confined to the frontend as well.

I guess given that we are all fairly experienced, we're quite pragmatic regarding what we will be capable of achieving given the time we are allotting ourselves.

>> No.23885028

>>23885013
There's also an incentive for us to keep team size small as if we go with a fee revenue model we need to charge more to get the same per person if we introduce more members.

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>>23882547
>To be clear, I'm proposing a rug pull

>> No.23885306

OP sounds like a neural network trained on pajeet inputs

>> No.23885500

I sent email, I'm interested, but I am understandbly pretty cautious - I hope that this does go somewhere, good luck fren. sounds like you deserve to make it

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>>23885013
I sent you email. We should form a guild to work on this and future projects. It's the only way to beat the higher floors.