/biz/ - Business & Finance

what the fuck is with you faggots and trying to push this dumb card shit on /biz/ lately? no one cares about your retarded little toys, FUCK OFF

>>23363223

ngmi

>>23363223
>Charizard PSA10 1st went from 30k to 200k this year
>Bitcoin only went from $5k to $11k
>220% vs 666%

Cards win. Keep your crypto shit in 2017 lmaooo

>>23363223
Everything can have value if enough time passes. Even Julius Caesar's fossilized dump.

>>23363289
But how would one verify that the turd was actually shat out by Caesar and not just some random ass slave?

>>23363326
Thankfully we soon won't have this problem with decentralized oracle nodes feeding toilet data to whoever wants to speculate in the fossilized dump market.

I kill threads

>>23363272
Cards are finding their pricing right now, like how BTC pumped in 2013 then dumped then pumped in 2017 then dumped.

>>23363184
I had tournament edition needle worm, dark magician of chaos, horus, 1st edition exodia and sold it for $50 10 years ago. yolo

>>23363409
2016 cards was 2013 Bitcoin. It was when the fringe investors (nerds and ancaps) discovered the asset.

2020 cards is 2017 Bitcoin. It's when the mainstream found out about the asset and it went viral.

I bought shit tons of YugioH packs back in the day and literally none of them are worth jack shit

At least my Kaiju Greydle deck still pwns the meta

The only thing that will maintain value is the sealed boxes, this isn't like abu magic cards where no one knew what tcgs were so they didn't print any, they did 8 print runs, in multiple languages of the original base set. What makes you think prices will normalize like this because influencers decided to jump in for pack pulling content, that's like saying BTC is going to moon because Katy Perry posted on insta about it. Like a year ago nobody wanted anything to do with Pokemon cards so none of this growth is organic. The comparison to crypto is retarded

t. been collecting for ~20 years

>>23363475
So 2023 will bring "altcards/deficards" then? Like second editions or non-pokemon cards like yu-gay-oh.

>>23363223

They need someone to buy the top now. In the PSA pricing you can't even do the "economy" card valuations. The website stopped offering the service because its apparent too many people sent in too many cards. No one is buying. Go look at how saturated some of the graded cards are on Ebay. That was the real money not buying something already graded and holding it hoping to sell it to another speculator later.

>>23363272
You are a faggot. There are 5-10x potential at least in crypto nearly every week with better liquidity and less hassle.

Sorry but the price appreciation people see in most cards is simply inflation, ie. >buy something when child for $5 in 2005 >forget about it for a long time. >Omg it's $30 in 2020!! Pretty much all that gain is inflation, even the best cards out there lose to simply having the money in a stock market.
>>23363390
Beautiful. It's a shame cards these days are so boring instead of having 52 unique designs per pack.

>>23363597
What are you talking about? We have been seeing new record highs for PSA cards every day.

Yes there are 5-10x potential...with altcoins. You have to actually know shit about crypto for that shit; it's like speculating on modern cards (which see highly volatile movement similar to altcoins). For the stuff that anyone can invest in without knowing anything (i.e; vintage cards and BTC/ETH), cards win, hands down.

i know nows the time to sell some of my duplicates, but im so fucking lazy

Care to explain where these cards? I am not a fan bo I cannot recognize a value Card from a non value one... how to do it?

This newest Pokemon set called Champions path ive pulled 2 rainbow rare charizards and 3 shiny charizard V ive made more money this month with cardboard then i have with crypto and thats depressing as.

>>23363656
imagine comparing a 99.9% illiquid asset to an asset that actually has liquid.

>ngmi

>>23364960
what are they worth each?

>>23365121
in AUD around 800 - 1000

>>23365089
The illiquid meme needs to die. That's just how boomers see collectibles. This isn't the 1980s anymore. Ebay is a thing now.

>>23363184
>>23363184
MTG expert here, redpill me on pokemon crap. what is big money and how rapidly do they increase in value? i understand a new set just came out recently that keeps selling out from all retail vendors, would a few boooster boxes of that be a good investment

>>23364581
Google you idiot

>>23364960
how many boxes did yu have to buy to find that

>>23365484
>would a few boooster boxes of that be a good investment
No. Invest in the stock market (SPY). Or if you want physical stuff to look at buy gold or silver.

>>23365510
10 etbs and 5 dubwool boxes

>>23365568
sorry im a total noob what are those acronyms for?

is this what i need? https://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-TCG-Champions-Trainer-Multicolor/dp/B08DN23BSM/ref=pd_sbs_21_2/147-9688964-9988557?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B08DN23BSM&pd_rd_r=3c8ee3f6-c5f8-4f57-88fd-a7e5763ae0ef&pd_rd_w=NWYhc&pd_rd_wg=LQeXK&pf_rd_p=b65ee94e-1282-43fc-a8b1-8bf931f6dfab&pf_rd_r=ZTHWC6GT58F1AKP41RBH&psc=1&refRID=ZTHWC6GT58F1AKP41RBH

i thought the boxes were supposed to be like $40 but i cant find them

>>23365568
https://collectorstore.com/pokemon-tcg-champions-path-elite-trainer-box/

found that for a bit cheaper, not sure where dubwool is

>>23365518
boomer cringe

>>23365606
etb stands for elite trainer boxes its a product you can buy typically holds its value pretty well. but in the case of the hidden fates set and champions path prices have absolutely skyrocketed. but there will be a reprint run in January

>>23363184
It's literally a piece of cardboard with no security marks, any faggot that has the slightest clue about what he's doing with a printer can make his own, kys.

>>23365568
Post pulls or larp. The odds are like 1 in 200 packs for both

>>23365637
Lmao so why aren't you printing $20000 Charizards right now? Fucking retard

>>23363272
good luck liquidating

>>23365675
I opened 50 etb and pulled 4 Charizards total. I also pulled SIX of the stupid fucking food tin tho so just fuck my shit up.

>>23365675
i actually think the rainbow is like 1 in 400 or something the shiny v one seems like the easier of the two to pull. i sent my best centering ones off to get graded

>>23365684
Cause I'm not skilled in this field. There are people who print plastic bank notes you think they can't print some shitty cardboard especially when one piece costs $20000? You absolute fucking tard.

>>23365675
>>23365720

>>23365735
Yes.

>>23365794
moron

I have a yugioh Red eyes B. dragon holo with a bend in it. few people on ebay selling them in psa 9 for over 6k usd. Fuck lol

>>23365633
so what's the play with the champions path etb, open them for the cards or let the box sealed for collector's value

>>23365880
i got lucky from what ive seen most people normally pull like professors research holo or a marnie the pull rate is insane if you get hold of an ETB id say dont bother opening it so many shit cards the amount of holo obstegoons and hatterenes ive got is fucking rough.

>>23365919
I just bought two, so I guess I'll let one closed

>>23365781
Fair enough. My friend opened one ETB and the only pull was a venusaur V. Still got 3 sealed.

>>23365980
good luck on the one your opening hope you get something worthy

>>23365880
The ETB's are going to be reprinted so I guess short term collector's value is low

>>23363184
unique neymar sold yesterday for 74.416 Ξ $27,978.18
https://sorare.com/cards/neymar-da-silva-santos-junior-2020-unique-1?referrer=skintight

>>23366037
thanks, you too

>LCS my friend works at had Evolutions XY boxes for $200 last Monday, he would’ve sold it to me for like $150
>I wanted to buy it but slept
>that same box is $450 now and packs costs 3x what they did literally a week ago

>>23366110
i cant understand evolutions current prices its a pretty awful set. the full arts and exs look fucking awful ok you have an OG style charizard but wheres the classic venusaur wheres the classic blastoise.

>>23365880
SEALED SEALED SEALED champ path is actually trash set proped up by the zards

>>23366133
It’s nostalgia, that’s literally the only thing that matters. My friend gave me a whole pile of them one time but I didn’t pull the Zard. Gonna go around buying up any ones I can find today.

>>23363475
You're an idiot. TCG cards being pricey is not rare at all and scalpers have always been the scum of the TCG scene.

After you imbeciles crash the card market by hoarding packs trying to pull off rare cards TCG companies will simply reprint those cards as common like they've done a thousand times. It's better for them to have a momentarily dip in the TCG market than having no players at all because hoarders are taking all the cards for themselves.

This without mentioning that the collector's market is a house of cards. As soon as collectors can't pay anymore the prices fall down hard, and when they do they won't climb up again.

>>23365484
Pokémon cards are not valuable. In fact it's the cheapest TCG there is and Nintendo/The Pokémon Company have incentives to keep it that way.

It only became "big" because a couple of influencers started memeing the Charizard cards. That's it.

>>23365504
>Google you idiot
I mean how do I recognize a potencial ''moon'' card?

>>23365637
>any faggot that has the slightest clue about what he's doing with a printer can make his own

>>23365735
Nice, you said "any faggot with the slightest clue" and now it's "highly skilled". Where's your next goalpost? And where are these fake cards that faggots have been talking about for decades? Oh, right, they literally don't exist.

>>23366392
That's the feeling I have too. All other cards except for Charizard and some rare tournament cards seem to be worthless.

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>>23363184
Trading cards are not a very good investment.
This is a fad, like baseball cards, beanie babies, funko pops and other stupid mass produced shit with no historical, functional or artistic value.
The only thing it is good for is very short term speculation.

This is the same as buying meme coins or forks of coins, the value is in people like you FOMOing. When the momentum stops, everything is going to crash.
This mania is going to last only for so long.

That said, I have made money on flipping funko pops in the past, so it is not like I have any moral ground to stand on lol.

>>23367196
>fake card
They exist and they are being sold without you knowing it.

>>23367587
baseball cards are crazy expensive sporting cards are insane.

I found a bunch of holographic pokemon cards in my basement from 20 years ago and they're in good condition. Should I bother getting them graded so that I can sell them on ebay? I have two 1st edition Holo machamps and I've seen them sold for a few thousand which seems insane.

>>23368230
its quite expensive to grade cards so you should have someone look at them before even thinking about it

>>23363184
any websites/trading places that would accept abit of crypto for cards?

wanna get started maybe

how much is my pikachu card worth?

>>23367587
What do you think of numismatics?

>>23368765
>not first edition
>no red cheeks
>5/10 condition
Uhhhhh... good question.

i have a japanese Totodile card somewhere from before the Johto region was even announced in Europe, not shiny or anything afaik, any anons have a clue what itd be worth?

>>23363184
>>23368230
>>23368251
>>23368263
>>23368765
>>23369238
Yeetcrypto on twitter check them out

Guys I got an E3 Pikachu yellow cheeks, how much should i sell it for?? Its PSA 10 and I think theres only 53 of them

selling cards fucking sucks unless you have old rare shit already or are lucky enough to come across some rare shit at a garage sale for cheap but lets be real, that shit will never happen

what actually happens is you buy the new boxes hoping to get a few key cards that are popular in the meta of the game you are playing with, then you sell them individually and either sell lots or fill card list requests for websites like tcgcore. If youre really retarded you sell them for $0.01 ea. to a card shop.

but heres the reality of it, over time you will basically break even or lose money. You will never get enough of those meta cards you are looking for to make a profit and the amount of time it will take to sell the filler as lots or filling card lists will take you so long youd be better off doing literally anything else with your time. Even a part time job at McDonalds would be more lucrative. Also let me add that ebay customers are fucking scumbags and will try to leverage a bad review to blackmail you.

I used to sell card and help a friend sell cards. It just isnt profitable and you will 100% call one of your mouthy customers a faggot before its over

>>23367399
Pokémon TCG is for children. It's not like YGO or Magic in which companies expect the majority of the playerbase to be young adults and teens, The Pokémon Company expects most of the players to be children 7-14. As such they want cards to be more accessible. That's why they're cheaper than in other games.

They have no incentive to have 5000+ $ cards.

>>23368229
To be fair, they were dead for over two decades until I revived the market. I think that's what that person was talking about.

>>23363184
I’m sitting on a bunch of rare yugioh cards. Do they have any value like the recent Pokémon hype cards selling for thousands?

>>23371833
no.

>>23365329
so there’s billions of dollars of liquidity because ebay is a thing? i have an mtg collection that would make even you blush, gary, but this flat out retarded.

>>23371833
Depends what you’ve got. Duel Terminal BEWD is worth like $3k.

>>23371833
They have value, but nowhere near Pokémon. LOB 1st Blue-Eyes is about even with Base Unlimited Charizard.

>>23369255
5/10 condition. Lmao are pokefags really this bad at condition? This shit is straight damaged 2/10 tier condition.

>>23363184
Hey Yamato, how's it goin?

>>23363223
>NOOOO WE CAN'T HAVE ONE LESS CRYPTO SCAMCOIN SHILL THREAAAAAD!!!!
>NOOOO WE CAN'T HAVE ONE LESS VEILED PORN THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually kill yourself faggot

>>23374854
I need my tranny porn thread

This board would be a lot better if we had one General for coins and a General for cards and a General for commodities and a general for other biz things. This whole board is Just coins

>>23368765
That's a PSA 1.

>>23375027
Go back tourist.

>>23375124
It’s true, we used to have threads about many different things about business and it’s just coins now. I miss the Chinese tripfag who would post material here on starting businesses

>>23375027
This.

Sup you no pussy getting ass manlets

You all thought pokemon was for kids? Time to throw that shit away? Time to grow up and get a real job. Go fuck yourself

I'm about to get mine. it's MY TIME

>>23375027
It's literally a crypto board you dumb retard

>>23377429
Hey retard, it says biz and finance not crypto on the board

gonna stack this guy when it releases

>>23378325
YGO has gone so far off the rails that I don't even know how people play it lol

>>23367869
Yep. 1:1 fakes. They're out there and somehow undetectable by even a jeweler's loupe. Schizoposting.

I'm building a position in a certain rare non reserved list mtg card and I dont know if its a baller move or a retarded cope.

>>23378363
i just started agian stopped playing around 2006. i thought it was difficult with the new link syncros etc. but in the end it was just easy. even shilled others and they even understood it.

>>23378325
I started losing interest when the cards started becoming more and more convoluted. It's cool to have decks which revolve around a certain set of cards interacting with each other and benefitting from being the same type but they started taking it way too far.

>>23369255
>>no red cheeks
wtf are these?

you retards will get dumped on when the hype dies down. not saying you cant ride it longer, but no way people will continually be paying more and more for fucking gaymon cards. enjoy the free shekels while you get em.

>>23365781
Since when did pokemon cards look so gay

>>23378325
A free 3000 ATK that wipes the field and has the potential of doing so indefinitely even during the opponent's turn. Absolutely disgusting. I'm glad I dropped this shit with Qli.

Found my old tin. I can never get rid of these

am i gonna make it anons? have this shit since i was 6

>>23376442
fake

>>23380026
Bro get that giovanni's pincer GRADED. I am getting all gym leaders black star pokemon graded even if they are not holo. I got a Joelton first edition that should receive a grade 9-10. As it was fresh from a pack. I predict all gym leaders pokemon are going to go up very high in value over the next few years.

>>23376442
Holy shit sir you have a fat cock. Too bad I dumped all of my money into LINK for the past 3 1/2 years.

get pepeyugi
>only 30 tokens
>new NFT, based on crypto YuGiOh
>collect & trade
>market cap is literally only $15k
>site: pepeyugi.finance
>uni: https://info.uniswap.org/token/0xbc0b41a42fb83f7d0019d82ab5c404fbd29e4f42

>>23366370
fucking lazy ass cat -- gets a little bit of fame and it completely goes to its head

>>23370110
also if you sell enough you will get ripped off by scammers who claim "item not as described" and swap it out in the return with some bullshit. basically 1 out of about 100 buyers on ebay are scammers

>>23363184
Bitcoin ruled last decade....trading cards will rule this decade

>>23363526
Rudy says pokemon is changed forever.

I have about 50 Alpha/Beta basics in good condition. Gunna make it?

complete noob here. is it worth getting any of these graded? literally asking for a friend. lots of holo in there apparently

>>23382480
unless the card itself already looks mint, probably not. if it got any scuffs, bends, etc, etc its not NearMint at the lowest

>>23380458
thanks for the tip.
I have lots of black star gyms. I just wish i still had my Blaine's Moltres.

>>23382137
you could tell by that video he was kind of disappointed he hadn't acquired more sealed product in the past.

I collected just about every TCG/CCG/Sports cards that was out there from 90's to late 00's. It's almost embarrassing but I always kept good care of my shit. I'm in the process of moving it all to my apartment to go through it.

>>23379852
what are those worth? i have some old ones somewhere from when the game first came out

>>23363597
5x a week? start with $1 and in 3 months you're a billionaire

When will the house of cards collapse. I was to buy some old packs. Also how easy is it to reseal a booster box

>dude I saw a card posted for *insert stupid number*
Just a reminder that the only prices that matter are sold prices you stupid fucking retards.

Why does /biz/ only get into things at the market peak? Buy high, sell low.

>>23383994
The guy creating these threads was into cards long before this bubble. I was in cards long before this bubble. The only people in this thread "getting into it" are digging out their childhood shit collections. The real people looking at pokemon now are idiots with too much money or trust fund kids that like to show off on instagram. I mean this unironically, there are plenty of pictures of people with $25k pokemon cards flexing their rolex and BMW in the background, lol