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he is a bit too big to be natty
that being said you can absolutely look very close to this while being poor as hell

>>23336050
Looks like a cartoon character. He'd look way better at 20-30 lbs lighter.

>>23336093
Cope

you're not gonna be able to look this lean without roids, but the amount of muscle mass is easily achievable on a cheap diet. just build your diet around lentils, rice, beans, oats, and as much vegetable as possible and work out regularily. focus on your diet, not your training, even doing squats, pullups, bench press twice a week would be enough to build an impressive physique with a good diet

>>23336050
Yeah i was way bigger when i was a poor student on dark web test

>>23336093
No he wouldn't. Google Mike Thurston, he has the perfect physique no homo

>>23336050
The answer is yes. Absolutely.
I've seen squirrels that have bodies like that

Yes
if you think no then you're just a useless retard

>>23336050
If you look like that then you can make a lot of money being a trainer. If you can get a wealthy client fit then they will probably recommend you go their wealthy friends too

>>23336125
please be bait

>>23336132
I'm Thurston for some of that.

This is me now. Once I get my gibs from gibs.finance I’ll look like one of y’all

>>23336125
Unironically the worst advice I've ever seen.

>>23336125
Woah. This is actually the most based post I've seen about /fit/ on this basket weaving forum. Everyone should take what this anon says and frame it in their memory.
t. /fraud/

>>23336050
you can have that body and be poor but you cant have that chad face and be poor. a guy with that face can pretty much just walk into an office and get a job.

>>23336183
Witty

>>23336125

>>23336125
correct

>>23336050
money plays a factor, but it's by no means essential to have a high net worth. Pic related is a homeless bodybuilder (yes he's probably on steroids). Its worth mentioning that most people regardless of how much money, determination, knowledge, steroids etc etc will ever be able to look like OPs pic. A lot of pro bodybuilders had more impressive physiques at 13/14 years old than most adult gym goers. They're just genetic outliers.

>>23337306
Forgot pic

>>23336050
Food 300$ a month
Gear 100$ a month
Its possible.

>>23337350
Why would you spend so much on gear even if you have the money? Just get a gym membership.

Food will at some point be the limiting factor for your gains.
I was never anywhere near pic related in your OP but I ate all the time, 3 big meals and in between meals between every meal.
At some point I started putting peanut butter on everything just to bump caloric intake.
Preparing this stuff takes a lot of time and it costs hella money.

>>23336998
No, not correct. 99.9%of people will do everything by the book and will never look close to OPs pic. And they certainly won't get anywhere by eating rice and lentils working out twice a week. Unironically dyel

>>23336050
Imagine the time + money the guy spent for his muscels invested in business + investment .
Of course such idiots are poorfaqs.
You invest time + money in your health after you have made it, but certainly not before.

>>23336050
definitely goal body

>>23336125
You can absolutely look like that naturally.... For a short while. Guaranteed this dudes lifts are weak as fuck and he hates his life, but it's possible with a decade of weight training, diet, and extreme cutting program.

>>23336183
Fuck off Carlos

>>23336125
Wrong. You don't become that lean from a good healthy diet man, come on, be real.

Lots of dry roids test mast winny and stims like Adderall so you're able to starve yourself and keep functioning, high protein like 3-400 and not much else. Carb up or binge probably when he can't cope for a day... Maybe throw it up after.

>>23337882
Why don't you tho?

>>23338000
Oh yeah gh to stay full and burn a bit more fat and t3 to maintain thyroid as well

>>23337401
No one looks like that natty. And i like to look and feel like the hulk. Pleases my aesthetical sense.

>>23338015
Well my lifts are sick and it's bulking season. Lost 40lbs during Covid since gyms closed so just did cardio and diet.

>>23338129
Lol.. Why didn't you before when you had ideal conditions? Admit it its all the drugs, and you binge it back on after a week.

T. Someone that's been really lean.

>>23336050
Ok but
N

>>23336050
depends on how much steroids cost anon

>>23336050
google the homeless french body builder..... your wealth doesnt matter, homeless guy is bigger and beastlier than anyone i have seen

>>23336125
>you're not gonna be able to look this lean without roids
false, just join a college rowing team and stick with it, good luck retaining that much muscle though

>>23336050
physique - no. Face - yes

>>23336125
Why is everyone implying this is wrong? He specifically said this is just to build that much muscle mass and that you still need roids to have that much muscle *and* be as lean as OPs pic

>>23336050
i guess so.

mike wasn't really wealthy when this pic was taken, although i cant believe he isnt roiding

>>23337705
I can tell you haven't (and won't ever) made it by this post. Invest in yourself first and foremost, you aren't gonna have a high net worth if your actual worth is 0.

>>23336132
kek get fucked delusional faggot
Easy to achieve a better natural body with no money, just can't be a bitch ass faggot like OP and work for it

>>23337882
delusional

>>23338329
what a load of shit. A collage rower is athletic, but they're still between 11% and 15% bodyfat which is perfect for what they're doing. OP's pic is not only bigger, but he's probably between 7% and 8% bodyfat. At this range, without steroids you'd be week as fuck, probably wouldn't be able to get an erection, your muscle would deteriorate because you're body is using it as fuel etc. It's a completely different level of lean

>>23337705
Awful mindset. Eating well and kicking ass in the gym can be done dirt cheap. I'm a NEET and I'm the best looking guy in the gym lmao. Pic very much related.

>>23336050
The best I can do right now is bloatmax. Protein is the most expensive aspect of maintaining size. I get the caloric surplus just eating a shitload of rice

>>23340382
>what a load of shit
>but they're still between 11% and 15% bodyfat
hey dumbfuck. I rowed in collage and some of the guys were chubby like you say but others (myself included) were around 6% bodyfat including one mofo that looked like the pic in OP. You do not know jack shit about what you are talking about much less rowing.
>weak as fuck
puuuhhllleeeaassseee. jesus fuck you're ignorant.
>your muscle would deteriorate because you're body is using it as fuel etc
we did that intentionally mongloid. the whole season was structured around it. bulk up in winter and burn it all down in the spring with 1 or 2 peaks of performance. gtfo

I was just thinking about this today. Lifting and developing a proper physique is equally as important as financial growth. Even a poor fuck can build their body. You can get a couple kettle bells for under $100 and develop a great physique.

Having a built body and core strength generates opportunities, commands respect, attracts women, etc. Just having proper posture opens doors. This won't be a popular opinion here since 90% of you are weak incel losers.

>>23336132
You are a homo.

>>23336050
Jail gives you a lot of free time and a lot of incentive to get stronger.

>>23340599
>can be done dirt cheap. I'm a NEET and I'm the best looking guy in the gym lmao
and you will stay poor retard tryhard. unless you are an athlete or in the military you should spend at most 1 hour exercising each day. it's all you need to be healthy and look good. the rest of your time should go to making money

Money and physique are usually reverse correlated, most richfags are old, work plenty and eat shit diets and They’re ready for a heart attack . Ops pic is clearly juiced, that said it’s 90% diet 10% lifting you can be in ok shape better then 95% of people quite easily with a few days a week of lifting and an ok diet

>>23340680
>but others (myself included)
don't care about what you 2 are arguing about, just wanted to point out that you were clearly one of the chubby retard ones
so tired of the larpers on this board

Also, a lot of these gym tryhards still don’t get pussy, training hours a day is a legit waste of time unless you’re a pro athlete, you wanna be making money not sitting in a gym going to failure exhausting yourself, a workout can be smashed out within an hour and that’s including cardio

Status
Looks, face then body
Social skills/game
Money

>>23340781
agreed, & the Greeks & Romans did too, all the philosopher's were shredded warriors

>>23336125
>eat a pajeet diet
anon i....

>>23338329
i don't understand why you'd nitpick ops statement. ok, perhaps its possible with extremely good genetics, a decade of training and non-stop perfect diet to look like that without roids. or, if you're not the genetic 1%, you'll need roids. i mean, what point are you making? if someone looks like that they're almost definitely roiding. >hurr durr but he might nott bee!!!!
lmao

>>23340819
>you can be in ok shape better then 95% of people quite easily with a few days a week of lifting and an ok diet
no. everyone under 30 works out now. it's absurdly popular because of instagram and youtube. your statement was true 20-30 years ago but NOT now

>>23341110
> it's absurdly popular because of instagram and youtube
Bullshit, stop exposing yourself to that nonsense and go into the real world retard

>>23341110
you’ve not seen how fat people are in the USA right? Even here in Aus most people still look like shit in their 20s-30s popular people on Instagram/lifters still don’t represent the majority

“ In 2017-18, the Australian Bureau of Statistics' National Health Survey showed that two thirds (67.0%) of Australian adults were overweight or obese (12.5 million people), an increase from 63.4% in 2014-15.Jun 19, 2019”

>>23340825
>you were clearly one of the chubby retard ones
COPE faggot. some of us fuck

>>23341066
to look that big without roids - I don't think it's realistically possible. I'm just talking about being that cut but not that big.

A body fat under 18%, ideally 14 or below and lifting heavy 3 days a week, don’t neglect some cardio. clean ish diet is easy to maintain for literally anyone, people will go to extremes but the return on the work required tapers off quickly

>>23340805
1 hour yoga
1 hour slaying myself working out
1 hour meditation
1 hour reading
1 hour in nature

I haven't worked in years and have plenty of money.
This is daily baseline. Setting limits on what you allow yourself to enjoy is very limiting.

Costs me £30 a week to consume a 3000 calorie balanced healthy diet with the right among of macros and micronutrients.

To get a lot of muscle mass like that I think it would probaby cost me about 5000-5500 calories, so just less than double I would spend.

So, yes. Past 35 though you would definetely need roids to look like that. Even to get to that level natty takes years of bulking/cutting consistently and sticking to a consistent workout plan and eating the same meals every day and some good genes.

>>23340680
>Just train yourself for 2 weeks of peak performance per year bro
kek

>>23341413
Can you explain your diet routine please?

>>23336050
>is it possible to look like this and be poor?
Poor people can't afford the kind of food you need to look like that, and when they do they don't have time to prepare it in between their two jobs they're working to afford their one bedroom apartment. But it also depends on what your definition of poor is. Back when I was on a $50K salary I could afford both going to the gym with a trainer as well as all the necessary food. But richfags would consider $50K "poor".

>>23340680
>I rowed in collage and some of the guys were chubby like you say but others (myself included) were around 6% bodyfat
11% isn't chubby you numbskull. You can have visible abs at 11%. You weren't at 6% and I don't give a fuck what you say it's just not true. 6% is STAGE READY bodybuilder. There is NO FUCKING CHANCE you competed at rowing at 6% bodyfat. This is pure delusion. And I don't even blame you because everyone and their mother thinks they're 6% bodyfat because their coach got them to stand on fancy weighing scale or did the fucking skinfold caliper test wrong.
>>23340825
maybe or maybe he was quite lean. But 6%?? Come on bro wake up.

>>23340903
kek this is absolute incel cope, it's:

Looks, face then body
Money
Social skills/game
Status

Lifting weights regularly is the single easiest, cheapest way to improve your life and to not capitalize on this is complete negligence.

>>23341840
Status is numero uno anon, you’re just yet to learn this

>>23336125
>>23340102
Truth. Anybody who thinks this guy is natural is fucking coping. Just look at his delts. You can just assume any fitness instagram model is a gear head. The total naivety and damage the fitness industry has done to realistic body standards

>>23336125
this but unironically

>>23341528
i could see the muscle fibers in most muscles of my body when i flexed, legs, abs, shoulders, biceps, neck, individual muscles in my forearms... you tell me what i was at then. it was waaay below 11% anon

>>23342143
Why do you lie?

>>23342143
post pic faggot
>>23341960
>Truth. Anybody who thinks this guy is natural is fucking coping.
this

>>23341960
Yeah, not realising these guys are blasting a ml of tren-ace a day year round (which will destroy them within a few years) on high doses of trenbolone you can Literally work fast food and ice cream into your diet and still stay lean. Gym tards who count their macros. Train hard, avoid alcohol, take supps but dont juice will never look be in the shape of someone who half asses it on tren.

>>23340805
I'm worth over half a mil in my twenties, dicklicker.

>>23337306
>hes probably on steroids
>probably