/biz/ - Business & Finance

Get my tendies wagie, NOW!

>spit in food premptively
>they tipped 25%
>feel bad

>>23199929
I can afford to tip, i just choose not to

If you cannot afford to pay a decent wage your establishment doesn't deserve to exist. If your staff relies on tips then you are a terrible boss.
I don't tip ever. Fuck Americans and their retarded customs.

>>23199929
I think its bullshit, but I have my regular restaurants and I dont want to be "that guy" who doesnt tip

>>23199929
>I can afford to tip, I just don’t because it goes against my principals

>>23199947

>>23199929

What about the retards that told me not to to use UberEats/DoorDash if I’m gonna be tipping $1 KeK

>>23199980
that's because you do not suffer from autism

>>23199929
I know a multi-millionaire that only tips 12 percent, regardless of where he goes to eat. Kek

why is it my responsibility to subsidise businesses who cant afford to pay their employees properly? the solution isnt for me to 'tip', the solution is for employees to stop working for minuscule wages, and force the 1% to pay them a living wage.

inb4 muh circumstances

inb4 muh muh muh

shut the fuck up. no one tips me, so i'm not tiping you, if you don't like it get a better job or demand a raise.

>>23199997
Where's your manager, I just saw you spit in my tendies and I need new ones NOW

>>23199970
unironically though, that odd taste in your food, it's from the staff. they know. it's their ass mucous. lol.

>tfw I'm supposed to pay your wages
Bitch to your manager or get a real job.

That's right. I don't ever eat out.

>>23200088
Point is that people in America like their servers to be chatty. We like to customize our orders and have good service. In Europoor your server just dumps cold potatoes and a burger on your table and then you eat a hamburger with a fork and knife for some stupid reason.

>>23200106
>manager walks out
>500 pound shenigger
>begins screaming at the employee, you, and everyone
>her baby daddy runs up
>also screaming
>niggerspeak
>literally sounds like a zoo at this point
>DAS RITE
>guns come out
>you and OP both die over tendies
>white supremacists were at fault, will trump condemn it? find out tonight on Anderson Cooper.

>>23200169
i'm in america, i still don't tip. why the fuck should i lmao? live in any decent sized city and you can go your entire life without visiting the same restaurant twice, so you'll never see that server again anyway.

>>23200202
>why can't I get a girlfriend

>>23199929
not only I'm not going to tip
I'm gonna take a huge shit on the restaurant's toilet, not flush
steal a couple of things and if the opportunity arises, I will dine and dash
paying by creditcard and then cancelling the payment later also works out

>>23200053
that's at least decent. see he's not a sperg like you fags

>>23200171

>>23199929
The vast majority of the World figured out how to pay waiters wages. Get in with the program mutts.

I'm not American, what is a "tip"?

>>23200293
>resorting to insults
>you have clearly won

>>23200323

>>23199929
by all means, stiff the staff on the tip. i'd advise you to never go back there again though

wheres my server and bartender frens? you guys are americans and don't believe in tipping? it's how our entire service industry was built, you all sound like a bunch of fags.

>>23200343
its what you give the waiter at the end of your meal, to somehow generate good service, because they magically know you're going to tip. it's actually a subsidy for corporate america, so they can pay below minimum wage.

>>23199929
I’ll swing them 5 bucks. Take it or leave it. Tipping per percentage of the meal is fucking retarded, is handling a 50 dollar steak somehow more difficult than a 150 dollar steak? No. “Thanks for doing a good job, here’s 5 bucks”. When I worked retail I don’t receive tips for delivering exemplary customer service. You know what happens? I get canned if I don’t. Tip fags need to fuck off.

>>23199970
>>23200025
>>23200088
>>23200202

Look at all these fucking brainlets that think that if a restaurant paid a decent hourly wage and tipping wasnt a thing that they wouldnt offset the cost by increasing their prices LMAO. Tipping doesnt cost you anything extra but you retards treat it like a way to get a discount on the meal at the server's expense. Only a complete dickhead would think theyre making some kind of "statement" by not tipping. All youre doing is pissing on someone's day who doesnt deserve it, who has zero control over the industry, and is just trying to live their life.

>>23200420

It's a bastardized function at this point. It was originally exactly what it sounds like, people giving good servers tips for good service (but not some kind of obligation), and then evolved into an expectation every single time, and then in the most bizarre twist go encoded into the minimum wage pay structure of the restaurant industry

>>23200643
there are a few factors involved here and the policies vary depending on the restaurant. lots of places pool their tips and split the tips between front of house and back of house so it's not like that specific server is getting that $5. Then there are things like how busy the restaurant is and how many people are at your table ordering shit.

>>23200664
servers don't want to de away with tipping culture because it lets them avoid taxes. if they were getting a flat rate with no tips they wouldn't be able to underreport what they were making

I live in Japan so fuck no I don't tip because it's not a thing people do here.

If that fucking kike shit catches on here I'll drive a second van through Akihabara

>>23199988
your principal isn't going to appreciate your spelling, anon

>>23200643
You also got paid an hourly wage at your retail job that should have match the expectations of the customer and the employer. You think that if a restarant is charging $50 or $150 for a steak theyre gonna pay their servers $15/hr? Jesus christ where do you retards come from.

>>23200664
who forces waiters to be waiters? no one. don't like the job, work somewhere else.

>>23200803
Who forces you to eat at restaurants? No one. Dont like the payment structure, eat somewhere else.

Get me my food wagie. NOW.

if you dance and humiliate yourself enough I might throw you a few quarters.

>>23200825
and yet i can eat at a restaurant, and not tip. why? because it's not part of the payment structure. the evidence; it's not mandatory.

>>23200773
thank you, holy shit.

>>23200803
This is what retard zoomers say with no concept of how the real world works.

>>23199965
How prevalent is this? Spitting or fouling someone's food?

>>23200855
exactly. tipping is something they have to dance for, and even then i'm not doing it. the idea that i'm obligated to pay extra for someone who does nothing more than transport a plate 50 feet from the kitchen to my table is laughable at best and truly cringeworthy. the wait staff are free to demand a wage increase from their boss, i'm not responsible for subsidizing the business's low wages.

>>23200862
the real world works like this; you pay what you have to pay, and no more. if my meal is $100, sales tax alone in my area is 8.5%, so i'm paying 108.50. why would i intentionally add 10-15-20% ontop of that lmao? in the real world, i keep that money, and if wagie waity doesnt like it they can go. work. some. where. else.

>>23199929
Dude what’s wrong with your teeth?

>>23200857
Just admit it, the best you can do to protest tipping culture is to not tip. You wont seek out restaurants that pay a fair hourly wage, you wont open your own restaurant that pays a fair hourly wage, and you cant even do something as simple as not eat out. Youre like the fucking retards that refuse to wear a mask and end up in a viral video because you pick some inane thing to make your own personal battle. Find something more important to care about you fucking loser lmao.

>>23200169
I dont want my servers to be chatty at all, I want them to bring me my food, keep my drink filled and leave me the fuck alone.

>>23200896
Seemingly more so in "ghetto" communities and communities with lesser money. Crime statistics correlate with poor community behaviors as well

>>23200957
i'm not protesting anything, and i don't care about a fair hourly wage. nothing is fair, it's your responsibility to look out for yourself, and if you choose to work at a restaurant making $2/hour and relying on tips, that is your decision. it's my decision to pay as little as possible for what i want, and that is why i don't tip. i would still eat out if restaurants paid a living wage, and i would pay the increased price, because i like to eat out. but, as it stands, i can get what i want for less, so i will continue to do so.

>He doesn't tip he's prostitute

>>23200896
ive worked in kitchens for about 2 years and I've never seen it happen.

wagie wagie get in cagie, beg for tippy but i no give ^_^

>>23201064
Very cool Ayn Rand. The world really needs more weasels like you to find every shitty little way to save a dime at the expense of other people who did a poor job of "looking out for themselves."

>>23200896
You'll be able to tell from the outside of the place whether they do that or not. If it's like Mama Nig's House of Chicken, you might wanna steer clear.

>>23200896
I'm a server.
Sometimes, if we recognize you from last visit, (Either you tipped bad or you were very rude,) We'll give you terrible service on purpose. You ARE getting what you paid for after all.

However, as for spitting in the food, you really got to hurt someone's feelings for a waiter to do that. It's actually very rare.

>>23201722
>you get what you pay for
That's a shitty deal for the customer though. Why would I go to a place to pay for the food, and then on top of that pay you for the service? Why don't they just include a service charge on the bill for good service? and you better believe I would expect got tier service.

>>23201826
>Why don't they just include a service charge on the bill for good service?
Beats me! Until they make a better, that's just the way it is.

I have a regular customer who comes in once a week. He thinks he likes us but we actually hate his guts because he only tips like 5%. We'll leave his drink empty or fuck his order up on purpose.

>Inb4 better service and he'll tip better.
Nah, tried that. He's just a prick.

4chan
>jews are cheap
Also 4chan
>I don't tip my server

>>23199929
charge the price you expect to receive

>>23201927
If your server was a leftist liberal (assuming you were right leaning), why would you give someone who seeks your destruction behind closed doors more resources?

Do you not know how wars are won?

How much do you tip your professor if he gives a really good lecture? Even when the lecture is bad, I usually tip around 20 dollars, but if it's a great lecture, I'll tip as much as 100 dollars.

>>23201124
>he's prostitute
>he is prostitute

your choice of pic was more apt than you intended

>>23202005
Do you realize you're both American citizens and currently live under the same system of governance and thinking about people within the community you live in with opposing beliefs on how to make the country better as the "enemy" is a sign you have been indoctrinated in an echo chamber and have mentally unhealthy beliefs and need to get help.

>>23202023
>Americans tip their professors

>>23199929
>give my order to guy bartender
>he takes it and gets/pours me my beer
>I close my tab
>I’m expected to tip 20% for him literally doing his job

>same thing
>female bartender
>don’t fall for the old cleavage trick
>I’m expected to tip 20% because she did her job

I will only ever tip $1 per drink as a formality. Fuck tipping culture

> going out to eat
> not learning to cook 5-star meals for yourself

>>23200394
Man you can tell this one stung you bc of your reply. Too funny LMAO

>>23199929
I'm 26 and tip 30-50% everytime for good karma

Must suck being so poor you think so hard about a few shekels

>>23199929

>if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat

Actually, this statement defies its own logic. If you're in the situation to tip, then you've received you're bill, meaning you've ordered a meal, because you can afford to eat out. You wouldn't have ordered the meal if you couldn't afford it.

>>23202322
*your

if you're a chad you don't tip at all when you go to places you go to like once a year or will never come back again. only tip at your favorite restaurant. you should have like 2-3 places you tip at only.

>>23201880
That's horrible, I hope you drown in shit faggot.

>>23202230
>expecting someone not to spit/shit/cum on the food before packing/displaying

>>23200664
>Tipping doesnt cost you anything extra

???????????

>>23200202
>i'm in america
>america

I see your spy lessons are going well, comrade

Lol at the bitter bizcels here.
Probably never worked in their lives, sitting in dads basement, and talking down on people who work for their money because they have dreams and actually a life.
Tipping behaviour really shows what kind of human you are. Bizcels are truly the scum of the world and need to kill themselves

>>23200896
Working in food service all throughout high school I've never seen it happen or heard of it happening. I'd imagine its pretty rare. If you get caught doing this, you are fucked.

>>23201570
That's just life nig, not gonna change anytime soon. Probably a good idea to get used to it and start looking out for numero uno as well.

>>23202384
calm down

>>23200664
>Tipping doesn't cost you anything extra
The absolute state of Amerifats

>>23199965
Very rare. You have to be an absolute cunt for it to happen. No one will fuck with your food just because you don't tip, even if you're a regular. Only seen it done a few times in like 15 years, and it was always either a Karen or loud ass ghetto nigger trying to get free food. Most restaurants will fire you on the spot if you get caught and some higher end ones will call the police and you will be charged with battery.

>>23200171

>>23199929
>go to a local fast food restaurant
>walk up to the register to place my order
>roastie asking me if I'd like to tip
>"no, I'm good"
>give me attitude for asking for my cup that she forgot to include with my order

I just don't see why I need to tip when I'm walking up to the register to place my order and then also walking down the aisle to grab my food when it's ready.

>>23201927
if you can't beat em, join em

>>23203561
Even drive thrus ask for tips these days

Can you explain to me how restaurants in literally every other country can afford to run a business while simultaneously paying their employees and not expecting the patrons to do it?

>>23204380
Many use their children as unpaid labor

>>23200896

you have to be a truly TRULY vile person and have a truly vile waiter for this to happen. normal people don't think like this at work.

i did the food gig at probably 30 different places for nearly 10 years and not once did i even consider any staff member would do this.

>>23201064
well servers have to pay out bartenders too so technically you took up their time, hogged a table, and made them lose money. but this is biz so you probably get off to the fact that you made someone a slave for an hour

>>23199929
i'm with buscemi. xBTC fixes this.

>>23200114
Only in USA are people this disconnected from one another, that's nigger behaviour and no way to treat someone in your community. You are not required to tip where I live because we have fair wages. Food is no doubt better, healthier and cost is no issue. Happy to pay for what I am getting. A repeat customer is more important than a shitty tip.
>>23200664
They have complete control over the job they accept and what they do with their life. It is not my fault they decided to be an underpaid servant. By being such a cuck they are actively participating and encouraging shitty pay from their industry. Fuck them.

>>23200171
kek

>>23201064
Honestly the most normal position. Everyone would like to pay as little as possible for everything, but some put up with the tips because they get satisfaction from that

>>23201616
Never been to a Mama Nig's, how are the fries?

>>23202023
gtfo dr scrooge

>>23199929
In my experience the only people who don't tip are literal children and niggers. It must be an IQ thing cause kids are stupid.

>>23199929
I'm an American, so if the service is good I leave a tip. I hate our system of tipping, but taking it out on the wagies is peak kikery

>>23199929
I don't tip arts degree drop outs.

>>23200664
>Tipping doesnt cost you anything extra
Can you sell me your portfolio for 15% less than it's worth? You won't be losing any money I swear.

>>23199929
WHERE IS YOUR MASK MISTER

>>23201570
i'm not saving a dime, i'm paying the price listed on the menu, and nothing more except for tax. why would anyone intentionally pay more for the same product?

>>23202322
Based and logic pilled.

>>23203561
I agree. I may stop eating out due to this, to some degree. Anytime I don't tip, there's always some attitude. Like dude, I'm not your employer screw off and stop being a loser communist.

>>23206308
>Mister
Prepare to go viral bigot.

>>23202250
>i call people an incel on the internet
>i win arguments on the internet

ask us how we know you've never touched a woman

>>23202446
yes, not tipping the wagie who brings me my food is definitely some top tier KGB psyop, fucking brainlet lmao.

>>23202590
niggers generally have a lack of future-time awareness, so they genuinely don't understand that their behavior now will result in consequences later.

>>23206098
All of the wagies on /pol/ like to feel superior. The reality is most of us aren't successful. We wouldn't be posting on this anonymous image board if we were successful

>>23204598
how did i force them to work there? they're making the choice to work in a field that pays $2/hour and relies on tips for survival, i did not make that decision for them. i paid the price printed on the menu, and paid the government-mandated tax. if wait-staff are unhappy with their lot in life, they're free to change that at any time by simply changing careers.

yes i'm sure -insert europoor nation here- is very nice, thank you for your input friend.

>>23204665
the fact they have complete control is the entire point. it's not like people would stop eating out if restaurants paid a living wage and prices rose to compensate for that. i still would. but for now, that isnt the case, and it is up to the employees themselves to change that or move on to working somewhere else.

>>23204948
thank you, i've been getting jumped on all thread, and all i'm saying is that i'm not paying any more than i have to pay for the same product lol. if the price goes up, IE; if restaurants paid a living wage, i would simply pay more for the product if i still wanted it. but not any more than i had to.

i'm going to repost my greentext about the gorilla nigger and then exit the thread for a bit.


>manager walks out
>500 pound shenigger
>begins screaming at the employee, you, and everyone
>her baby daddy runs up
>also screaming
>niggerspeak
>literally sounds like a zoo at this point
>DAS RITE
>guns come out
>you and OP both die over tendies
>white supremacists were at fault, will trump condemn it? find out tonight on Anderson Cooper.

>>23201880
Wagie ragie

>>23206289
>>23202442
>>23202573
>>23206311
People who say this kinda shit have no idea how a business operates or something. If they start paying a normal hourly wage and stop relying on tipping culture to offset hilariously low hourly wages, how do you think they'll pay for it? Do you think business owners will generously reach into their own pockets? Or do you think they'll raise costs to offset the new higher hourly rate theyre paying their employees? Sure you can dodge tipping as some bizarre protest against the culture but what's the fucking point??? Youre just shitting on a random strangers day as a way of saving a few dollars because nobody is forcing you to? Lmao what the fuck is wrong with you people.

>>23204665
And you have complete control over how much of a fag you are to random strangers in your life. It's not their fault youre deciding to be an obtuse faggot and not complying with societal norms. By being such a fag you make everyone's life worse. Fuck you.

>>23206549
the business is free to pay its workers a living wage, and raise their prices accordingly, at any time. until then, i'll pay the menu price+tax, and nothing more. why would i pay more for the same product?

>>23206549
They just like to shit on random strangers. It's peak kikery

>>23206549
No you're the one who doesn't understand you fucking idiot. If everyone's tipping then it's financially beneficial for me to not tip. I get to keep my own money from not tipping, and I get to enjoy the benefits of everyone else tipping.
Why the fuck would I pay more for something if I don't have to?
Nobody ever gave me a break, so why should I give some college dropout a break? Maybe they should start thinking like me and do whatever they have to to get ahead even if that only means saving $30 at a time. I'm not a fucking charity program. I'm not going to pay extra for a meal to subsidize the restaurant or the employee, if you expect me to pay out of pocket then why won't you expect the same from the restaurant who hires these people?
These mouth breathers can start getting their life on track by getting out of the food service industry which has absolutely ZERO upward mobility and get into another industry or go into business for themselves. Start making money instead of just expecting it.

>>23202046
kek

>>23206557
Clearly this conversation isnt going to go anywhere. My advice is that you change your behavior. Morality and the law dont always coincide. You dont have to tip, there is no legal obligation to do so, but on a moral level youre being a jew and a dickhead. Last post in this thread, I think I've said what needed to be said and anything further is a waste of time.

>>23206625
exactly this^. no one is forcing them to work in a restaurant for $2/hour and be entirely dependent on tips. it's not the customer's responsibility to subsidize the poor life choices of a waiter.

>>23206625
Lmao look at this shit, you people are psychos for sure

>>23200171
this happens more often than white supremes.

>>23206650
so i should change my life by...paying more money for the same product because....your moral compass says i should. not going to happen buddy, have a good day.

>>23206665
psychos for...not paying more for the same product...because a waiter knowingly accepted a job that is entirely dependent on the charity of customers? here's what's psycho; waitstaff working as waitstaff, what's stopping them from getting another job?

>>23206650
There’s no morals when it comes to money wagie

Anons you are all thinking of this wrong, thing of tipping as a retard tax if you're only eating at that restaurant the one time (otherwise, you're tipping sort of like how you pay a mafia protection money).

The argument that "if we dont tip, the restaurants will have to pay a living wage and the price will be directly translated to the menu price!!!" is retarded because it assumes that,
A - it will be a direct 1:1 correspondence (it ain't)
B - all menu prices are priced equally and will be multiplied by 1.15 or whatever in a no tipping world.

Ignoring that though, just never tip if you're only eating at somewhere once. You get to enjoy an ostensibly lower price with none of the downsides. The tipping system is BENEFICIAL to anyone who is not a fucking retard. It ain't my job to financially support the server.

However, if you're out with a whore, tip and tip nicely and dont make a big deal out of it. I have NEVER met a woman who agrees with the anti tipping ideology. That is because not tipping is a rational decision, and theyre too busy thinking about the poor workers feelings to even consider that. Also, if you do receive remarkably good service and end up liking your server, why not throw a good tip at it? The only wealth which you will keep forever is the wealth you have given away.

remember, weather or not your server 'needs' tips to make a living wage depends entirely on the state.
pic related

>>23199929
shut the fuck up waiter faggot. your wage is not my problem. now go and serve my food and make it good or i will have to file an official complaint with your manager. nigger

I'm a waiter myself and I only tip fellow white men. It's a good job during college desu, better hourly wage than other jobs for more stonk money.

>>23206739
exactly this^.

waiters are low iq animals and don't deserve to be tipped. I FUCKING HATE WAITERS WTF THEY MAKE ME FEEL MURDEROUS.

>>23202384
Cheap kikes don't deserve it, end of story.

>>23206549
Your rude language hurt me more than I ever hurt someone for not tipping. Their life went on but I have to live with having been called a faggot on the internet. Maybe your moral compass is off, Mr.

>>23201880
5% is better than a stiff no?

>>23200896
I've worked at Red Robin's and had coworkers do it to assholes. He spiy in his Coke stirred it around, and he was also white, nota nigger in case you're wondering. Just don't be a rude piece of shit to people who handle your food.

>>23207191
I'm willing to bet this 'prick' customer comes in and orders something extremely basic (like a coffee and a donut or something) and leaves a dollar on top of the meal. Servers who think they deserve 20% every time they pick something up are faggots who deserve to stay in food service for 10+ years.

>>23199929
Why would I want to go out in a country when you can't so a single move without the waiter asking you if everything is okay and pouring more water to you?
Just leave me the fuck alone.

>>23199965
The self-righteousness of the waiter cannot allow them to feel such emotions.

>>23201927
The only thing cheaper than a Jew is an anti-semite

> he eats at a restaurant
> he doesn't just order food via uber eats
> where you can never tip and nobody will spit on your food

LMAO