/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23189728
This is hilarious.
China is getting left behind, yet again, for the same reasons.

And how do you defend Chinas covid release and now their bubonic plague outbreak (lol)

How is China doing with the erase of the Mongolian language/culture?

Is it finally time to treat China like the absolute nigger it consitantly is?

>>23190084
covid is literally just a cold

>>23190084
What are you even saying?

>>23189728
China probably won't exist in 20 years, no sustainability.

>>23190383
>China probably won't exist in 20 years, no sustainability.
You realize China will be completely self sufficient around 2025? What you're saying is as far from the truth as possible. Also, China is the strongest economic power in the world right now, and growing strongly.

>>23190383
This, it's a huge populace of low iq insect people, with an overeaching tyrannical government (who are fooling no one).
Total collapse within the decade.

>>23190493
>>23190383
pathetic americuck cope

>>23190084
Covid is a meme just a flu fuck mask wearing Ledditors! I'll do what I want just 0.1% fatality lmao nothing burger don't worry about this useless nothing virus

Oh but we must punish China for the virus!

Seriously how do Americans deal with this cognitive dissonance

>>23189728
depends if it doesn't implode itself first.

>>23190460
yep, by 2035 america will realise its nothing. one thing as a eurofag is what the gameplay is gonna be with Mother Russia around the corner. Europe is gonna be in a special place. you're gonna wanna live in Canada or somewhere not to much in the center of it all

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>>23190506
Covid was the example you all know and cans relate to (yes it's biologically harmless, but economically and politically destructive)

If you faggots weren't brainlets you'd know there a black plague outbreak been going on for a month now, and it's apparently getting worse. Yay China.

>>23190517
In what way could a state capitalistic country run by highly intelligent, unstoppable by regulations, government implode? Citizens are forced to cooperate due to state surveillance and mutiny is impossible in these conditions due to strong military intervention and excommunication by friends and family.
Also China's credit system is making sure everyone lives comfortably and according to its totalitaric rules.

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>>23189728
Eventually their shit will erupt completely and china will just collapse under it
It's the Chinese way
The dragon is going to become the world's fucktoy yet again

>>23190610
Destructive to countries that cannot deal with it due to an uneducated population, terrible regulation
and stubborn Americanism?
By that I mean America, the only 'first world' country, that's bleeding to death because its first world status is only a mantle covering up its completely corrupt and dysfunctional state of existence, whilst its stockmarket is blowing up an already gargantuan bubble by the FED printing trillions of USD.

>>23190637
quickly, very quickly. when it happens, by the time you see it on the news, it will be over and the aid ships will be on the way to try to feed 1.5 billion starving people.

>>23190711
>ask us how we know you've never been to America.

>ask us how we know you live in a 50 square meter apartment in some no-name european country, being taxed at 90% of your income, but atleast your healthcare is free, lmao.

>>23190736
nice conspiracy theory
did you get it from Q

And what's the problem?

Like they say in murdoch murdoch, I rather be a second class citizen in a china controlled works than a sixth class in a liberal controlled one

>>23189728
cool fanfic, but fuck off chang

China will never win because it’s a nation of soulless bug people

>>23189728

Invest in chinese companys obviously lol, any faggot with an over two decimal IQ can analyze the current Global Political situation and realize that China has basically allready won.

China will break up in warring states soon.

>>23190892
Good one idiot. Which Chinese companies will pave the way forward? That's the question and you obviously don't have the answer scrolling this board.

>>23189728
>and then reality set in, and you realized that china's entire economy is based on US demand.
>and then reality set in, and you realized that the US can just demand products from other countries, and instantly implode china.

>>23190460
>self sufficient
Anon the Chinks are human shaped locusts, they're nearly done stripping their own land bare, what exactly will sustain them?

>>23190493
This could be said of the US too, just saying

I like the Chinese, i prefer them to white man.
But the incompetence is stunning. I remeber when i was living in Guangzhou they had to cancel the production of nuclear reactors becasue they were “eye balling” “estimating” parts of the construction.....

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>>23190943
>more impotent americuck seethe

>>23190959
electric car companies I'd say

Tiananmen Square Massacre

>>23190460
chink detected
>>23190498
eurotrash cuck detected

>>23191402
keep seethin', amerishit
drumpft will make cuckmerica great any day now hahaha

>>23190460
You're stuck in 2014. China can't pay for their economic expansion anymore. Everything is stalling so they need to fall back to military domination and the timing for that is too soon if they actually want to win.

>>23189728
china cant even feed its own people, they have to eat their cats and dogs... come back when china actually has agricultural production needed to even sustain its own population.

Pirating CD's and DVD's and making cheap underwear doesnt make you special

>>23189728
>Europe will laugh

*are laughing

>>23189728
The most funny part is that any mutt you ask will swear burgerland will be fixed if [insert political party] wins the election. They don't realise that their
society is in an advanced stage of rot, their population is divided in two with each group hating the other.

The problems are deep rooted and can't be hand waved away by political theater.

>>23190493
Cope harder. China's average IQ is 104 while the US is only 98.

>>23189728
China and United States will both collapse by 2050. Both are on unsustainable paths with increasingly incompetent leadership. I’m not sure what the future world power is, because both EU and Russia have a lot of problems on the horizon too. I have a feeling that the whole world might just be a broken third world planet without a dominant global force.

t. Lived in US from 2003 to 2011 and lived in China from 2012 to 2018

>>23190828
>souless
Meanwhile burger culture revolves around ass worship and eating as much process junk and buying crap from amazon to fullfill personal identity.

>>23189728
USA is michael Jordan, China is Lebron. Michael Jordan will always be the GOAT. China is developing in the softest era known to man, where the USA was forged in fire. There’s nothing China can do to short the USA bc white people live there.

i find it hilarious that people think a nation like china, where gdp/capita is 3rd world tier, is able to compete with literally any developed 1st world nation.

These Americucks are literally low IQ bottom tier nigger posts. Its literally embarassing.

>>23189728
US dollar already decoupled from US economy
brainlet wouldn't understand

Burgers still believe corona meme will go away and things will go back to normal. They are too stupid and brainwash by the media to see the truth. All the "woked" burgers are still stuck in the party idealogy parigdim, "muh capitalism vs communism" takeover hurr durrr. Mean while the truth has been in plain sight for decades, the fiat printer scam is coming to an end and the economic chaos will be coming to burgerland. You fat pigs had your chance while US dumped worthless usd on the rest of the world, now its over lets see how you fat pigs cope and adjust to a world without a printer brrrr.

>>23189728
China is at the mercy of its one demographics and fucked up family planning policies. Ageiing population without replacement can't be the workshop of the world, everyone hates them, and they'll be too old to have a proper military. That's why they are aggressive now, they know its the last opportunity.

>>23193064
Legitamately first alright counter argument. However I don't think it holds weight to the original point. There are still at least ten times the amount of Chinese, and their economy will hold with fewer people and could even greatly benefit from it.

>>23190460
7% of the world’s fresh water with 20% of the world’s population. Net food and energy importer. GG

>>23191566
So much hate in your shill posts. Do you at least get paid or are you like a [d] janny?

>>23189728
https://tfipost.com/2020/05/chinese-army-is-full-of-wimps-sissies-little-emperors-we-are-not-saying-this-this-is-what-china-thinks/

>>23189728
Dear god you know nothing about anything, it's actually kind of endearing how naive you are.

Watch some of Peter Zeihan's videos. China is going to fucking collapse regardless, covid has fast tracked it. They are going to see a massive "population correction". Demography, geography, trade, sustainablity, economy. They're fucked on all accounts.

>>23193064
That serves them well, since they are trying to become a developed country before the demographics catch up. Also something something chinese diaspora.

>>23193064
china has no opportunity lmao, they build carriers with jump ramps. that's all you need to see. jump ramp on your carrier=your planes have minimal ordinance=you cannot fight a war. /end of.

>China is going to fucking collapse!!!!

Same americuck delusion since at least 2005.

Meanwhile your gdp retracts and your youth is the most retarded in the world.
Good luck in the long run, kikes.

>>23189728
OP must be a chink only chinks actually think they will rule the world hahahahhahaha lets take a look at the facts you subhumans killed off all of your innovative thinkers during your first dynasties, i mean your idea of a great leap forward was smelting shit metal together until we came and saved ur ass from japan. which in turn led to us giving you a shit ton of bond money to build your trash country ( which by the way china still owes US 8trillion in debt after interest with those bonds taken into consideration). Also ur old ass population will be experiencing famine soon because you dont know how to maintain your resources. Everyone hates you for wuhan flu. should i go on?????

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>>23190493
retards

look at where munger is putting his $
even munger said
>the west is overlooking opportunities in the east. americans should invest in chinese stocks for higher returns

ignorant low/middle class americucks still think china is a low-iq rat infested country, when in reality it's quite the opposite in a way

>>23193814
The US could literally shut down the country long term and give out stimulus checks and overinflated unemployment checks and be fine. Oh, wait that's happening.

The US is simply in too comfortable of a position in the grand scheme to have to worry about anything. Our currency, better than everyone elses. Demographically, one of the few countries that's sustainable. Trade wise, we are the one country that is LEAST reliant on trade, we need export/import the LEAST. This is because our geography is the best, by far. Which also makes us from a defense standpoint, the best by far we have two boders with benign countries. Not that we'd have any issue with a military because that's also the best, by far. One of these bordering countries being Mexico, which handles cheap labor CHEAPER than China. I could go on.

I'm not a flag waving patriotic moron. But I accept the facts.

>>23193791
carriers are just toys to scare third world countries without a navy
submarine = dead carrier

>>23194410
>burgerland #1hurr durr
Yea glad we have retards like you while bankers rob us blind with each stimulus pump and stock market buyback. Get ready for new totalitarian government, oh wait its already happening, middle class getting the squeeze, poorfags now spave fags.
Burgers have only 1 redeemable quality and its the over egotistical arrogrance that comes fomr years of brainwashing and easy fat piggy lifestyle. All coming to an end, but expect more media brainwashing.

Americans on the internet:
>We are the greatest nation, just look at CNN
>We own the world, no other country is relevant
>We are the greatest economy
>USA USA USA USA USA

Americans in real life:
>Mom died because she couldn't get hospitalized because she couldn't afford her medicine
>Dad is a drunk who's about to lose his house because of laws passed by the very guy he voted for losing him all his money
>Brother is excommunicated because his political beliefs don't align with the rest of the family
>Teacher has an IQ of 88 and is about to get fired because his students are preoccupied with making tiktok videos
>See rich people on your Instagram feed and think the country is doing great

Meanwhile your slums are looking like favelas and your cops are two seconds away from shooting you because of your skin

>>23190383
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>>23192938
literal retards, your entire economy depends on china. By 20 years, their military will be better and they'll take over the superpower place. OP is right, americucks

>>23189728
1. you can't copy war tactics, as by the time you learn them you will already be destroyed
2. china depends on the outside world, if there was a war the country would quickly be shut off and implode
3. Population size doesn't really mean much when the US has the most powerful military, it's not like the old days where they pull up at the beaches

>>23190460
The US Navy could starve them if they wanted to.

Would be pretty funny if both CN and US were already past their peak.

>>23194542
The US has its fair share of problems. The fed policies are actually working funnily enough - they have everyone worrying about inflation, when deflation is the inherent problem. But my argument is based on facts and the issue is China vs USA - which is a laughable topic. Move to China if you think it's on the verge of being the next world power. The poverty is already extreme, and there's a good chance you'll starve to death in the future.

>>23194864
Graphs show that China is getting up there in military size almost overtaking the US, if these trends continue in 5 years China has a greater military force than the US. They're getting bolder as they know they're getting stronger, they will take Taiwan and continue westward creating a Chinese superstate and the US can only sit by the sideline and spectate. China owns 2/3rd of USD and can easily nullify its value, ruining American economy. Africa will be modernly imperialized by China bringing it cheap but modern infrastructure with nothing in return but trade agreements and resource mining. Africa in turn will become a great economic force in hands of the Chinese. Kind of like a Marshall plan without the war damage part.
America can't cover their own asses as, ON THIS VERY DAY, it has more debt than GDP. Big ol yikes on that one

>>23195331
You're living in 2005 if you think China has poverty. Poverty numbers are less than a half percentage while in the US it's over 10%

>>23195355
>a fraction of the aircraft carriers
>no heavy airlift
>zero force projection
>no combat experience
>a fraction of modern fighters

Sure thing bub. Also owns 2/3 of the USD? Lmao wut? Of the bonds maybe.

How much does posting this garbage help your social credit score?

You can have africa though, good luck

>>23195355
>China owns 2/3rd of USD and can easily nullify its value
> Africa will be modernly imperialized by China bringing it cheap but modern infrastructure with nothing in return but trade agreements and resource mining. Africa in turn will become a great economic force in hands of the Chinese.
Nice fantasy, Chang. Maybe you could even get it greenlit by Netflix.
The reality is the PLA has zero combat experience and would get crushed by the superior US/Japanese/Taiwanese/SK alliance that would be formalized the moment a single piece of Mainland munitions lands on Taiwanese soil.
The war would last one week before the Mainland balkanizes and I get to visit the newly liberated Country of Bashu to fuck your women while gorging on Mapo Tofu.
>>23195393
lmao Li Keqiang just said last month that 600 million of the CCP slave population lives on less than 140 USD a month.
140
USD
a month
Fucking LOL!

>>23195355
china has zero chance of taking taiwan. literally, zero. taiwan has an in depth, modern, US-sourced air defense network. the chinese airforce cannot operate over taiwan, therefore china cannot invade taiwan, it's that simple.

>>23195404
all anyone really needs to see is that china is still trying and failing to copy the f-22, which the US debuted in 1995, while the US has 6th generation fighters in beta-operational-status and 7th generation in the R&D pipeline.

>>23189728
china has no force projection, its navy is a joke
it doesn't matter how many bugs they report as being unequiped army grunts they will not be going anywhere
their entire logistic capacity might and thats a might allow them to take taiwan, thats all the mighty pla can muster
japan's navy alone can blow anything the chinks have out of the water and de facto blockade a country that imports large parts of its food and energy, not to mention raw resources
and japan doesn't even have a legal armed forces as it is an occupied american vassal
if the us and the anzac were to actively engage chinese assets it wouldn't even be a fight just shooting fish in a barrel

all of that on top of massive instable internal economy and politics
the usa might not be doing well today, but its better then the dumpsterfire that is the eu and the usa at its worst is still paradise compared to china at its best
and i am saying this as a nonburger btw

>>23192836
this. were all fucked

China produces 97 percent of U.S. antibiotics and about 80 percent of active pharmaceutical ingredients used in American drugs, giving the Chinese Communist Party absolute controlof potentially life-saving medicine. For example, Chinese pharmaceutical companies supply 70 percent of the world's acetaminophen, commonly used in Tylenol.

In 2017, the United States imported $4.6 billion in agricultural goods from China, which is also responsible for much of the global supply of onions and pea proteins that are found in nutritional supplements and synthetic meats. A Chinese firm has also purchased Smithfield, the world's largest pork processor and hog producer.

The Chinese government's theft of intellectual property has been an open secret for decades. More recently, U.S. authorities have discovered China is funding American university researchers, who don't always disclose those contributions.

The manufacturing of smartphones and other household items is heavily reliant on China, which controls most of the rare earth minerals that make those items work. Additionally, China is seeking to build 5G networks in the United States and other Western countries, which could potentially feed personal information and sensitive data to the Chinese Communist Party.

The American Security Institutereport underscores that "Chinese firms and investors own a controlling majority in nearly 2,400 U.S. companies."
These include: AMC Entertainment (entertainment), Cirrus Wind Energy (energy), Complete Genomics (health care), First International Oil (energy), G.E. Appliances (technology), IBM—P.C. division (technology), Legendary Entertainment Group (entertainment), Motorola Mobility (technology), Nexteer Automotive (automotive), Riot Games (entertainment), Smithfield Foods (food), Teledyne Continental Motors and Mattituck Services (aerospace), Terex Corp. (machinery), Triple H Coal (mining), Zonare Medical Systems (health care).

>>23196202
bitch please all those chemical intermediaries are made from oil byproducts
guess what the usa is swimming in oil byproducts, sourcing that production locally would be quick easy
while china has to depend on all imported raw materials and export to actually do something with it
rare earths and really rare its just china doens't give a fuck to really pollute its land and as such can undercut the world on price, sweden alone even with environmental policies can replace chinese output
and china only does final assembly of smartphones, all tech critical parts are still sourced elsewhere

as to chinese 'ownership' in the west i got one word for you: expropriation
no western citizen is going to complain over nationalizing ccp assets

>>23196417
>no western citizen is going to complain over nationalizing ccp assets

you've got that right.

>>23195331
Like i said burgers are absolute insufferable egotisical retards, yea its working well for ultra wealthy but the rest of the country is fucked. burgerland #1 while half of the country is under welfare state system, yea keep cheering retard. Get ready for reality to set in retard.
>hurr durr china vs us
>hurr durr geographics, we(ultra rich) do this and that for economy
Maybe think about yourself instead of bullshit numbers that has nothing to do with you glow cuck

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/239468925/#q239468925

>>23189728
Big red dragon with concentration camps