/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23011545
used to think like you but no news on raiden or 4.0.4
vaporware

>>23011558
again?

yes sirs just bought 100k. i downloaded the dex, waited 40m for my btc channel to open and then used half of my balance to buy xsn. i canting using my whole balance. maybe they design it like this so you cannot sell all of your coins for safaty! i like safaty! then i boughts 100k usd of xsns. now i set up masternodes and be active in discord to join whale in 2 weekings. rich we will be brothers

>>23011616
what do you mean again
people are concerned because we heard no news, we have no actual launch dates for anything
its always soon soon soon
what kind of dev has no idea when his product be ready?
but I guess real legitimate questions and concerns are a fud go xsn buy more >DDDD

>>23011636
brother it's okay. i beliveings in this team of high quality proven developers. you see the partnerships? they have partnerings with ledger, and LTC! ltc is strong coin, people know ltc it's good coins. xsn will be like ltc 2.0's!

>>23011636
All the answers to your redundant concern shilling were answered in the FUD thread you made 3 days ago. >>22939349

>>23011720
>you made
ye stick to the made up delusion that its 1 person
also dont think we got a release date so no, no answers

X9 has been doing a hard-fork, upgrading the core wallet and the MN network to enable TPoS cold staking which is going live within a week. >>22941329 This has already been explained a dozen times over.
>>23011772
XSN fud is so rehashed and redundant it wouldn't surprise me at all if it mostly came from one person. It all reads similarly and like it was written by someone who's emotionally invested, bitter, and finding any tiny irrelevant thing they can magnify and screech about.

>>23011772
>no release date
so don't buy xsn until a release is announced. but in reality, you're either already holding and fudding to accumulate, or you're concern trolling and will switch to another fud upon full release.

I'd just like to know why there's no concern trolling around eth2.0, or uni v3? how is that any different?

>>23011720
Literally no one has answered what happened to 4.0.4, aside from ”soon” and ”working ln it”. Also this still being on 1 russian ex (coinall & beaxy don’t count due to 0 vol) is fucked up beyond belief.

>>23012392
>I'd just like to know why there's no concern trolling around eth2.0, or uni v3?
because they already have a working product lmao
and no the current state of the dex is not a full working product

>>23012392
Maybe because eth and Uni have a working product that people use? Unlike XSN dex with <$50 volume.

>>23012405
>September 5 - First announcement previewing v4.0.4
>September 18 - Released mandatory core wallet update for hard fork
>September 30 - 2nd announcement regarding 4.0.4
>October 8 - TPoS cold staking goes live
I don't see how releasing 4.0.4 during the middle of a hard fork makes sense.
>>23012428
Stakenet DEX is clearly a working product and X9's pursuits with ERCs have been vetted and verified multiple times by the Raiden devs.

>>23012642
>full working product
keyword full

>>23012134
i loves cold stakings hard fork. it seems like long time ago but not its finally here. i love my ledger. but i don't questionings why a partner with xsn doesn't implement codings they give them. it's okay i know xsn best project and the partnerings is not fake. ledger love xsn. hw are most safe, i hold link on there. 20k link
link1 xsn#2. cold stakings will take xsn to 0.21c for sure. there's 6T in derivatives that want to cold stake. i know this i asked people.

Wohooo! HW wallet support in 2020. AMAZING stuff. Delivering from their 2018 roadmap items!

>>23012773
yes sirs! team is really good i have good faith. you have to feel compassionings from vishnu for the team. they had no money during bear markets. this little money must have made it difficult to code the extra 7 lines (i checkings on the githubs). many testings must have happened in the test net which costs money. x9 is so good. ltc2.0 people love ltc. good coin

>>23012685
You can download the wallet, make a one coin deposit, and perform trustless Lightning swaps between Bitcoin, Litecoin, and XSN right now.
I can't think of anything else that allows me to do that, but I do recall many insinuations about it too being vaporware - all through the private betas and right up until the open beta.
Expanding with Raiden will certainly prove why their already-working L2 ecosystem is choice. They've undoubtedly made great progress on that end and that's why the idea of getting MNs before Raiden is so strongly encouraged.

>>23012910
>words words words
didnt read
dex is garbage nothing without raiden
fuck off nigger

1) how will stakenet ensure liquidity when raiden is launched? im worried it wont take off bc no users and the integration wont matter
2) does TPoS cold staking = same benefits as MN staking currently? do you still need an MN to stake?

>>23012910
exactly! i lovings the fact i can trade between btc/ltc/xsn. all my favorite coins. especially on the lightnings network which is super de duper fast. so fast. man i love xsn so much i might buy 100k more

>>23012773
XSN has been on cold storage devices for almost 2 years. Ledger sat on the code they gave them from 2019 into July or August of this year.
>>23012998
>i-i was proven wrong and have nothing of substance to counter with, but if i say 'didnt read haha', maybe people will think i still have validity
Irrelevant mental gymnastics aside, Raiden is very clearly on its way and that's were buying in now will provide for excellent returns.
>>23013012
1.) DEX hubs -> multiple hubs -> MN network (Hydra). If they have a superior product, why would people not use it? A lot of people said that about all DEXs at this time last year.
2.) Block rewards are split 45/45/10 between staking/MN rewards/treasury fund. You can stake with 100 XSN. You can stake with 1 million. You can stake the traditional way, or through TPoS, or you can lock your XSN in MNs.
Profitability between MNs and staking is intra-competitive, determined by the ratio of XSN on both sides. If, for example, there's a lot more XSN in staking than in MNs, MNs will be more profitable and vice-versa.

>>23013497
you didnt prove me wrong
you did nothing but shill
still no release date
still no raiden
still no update
22 posts in
still nothing
thanks

>>23013497
same fucking shill pics with the same "soon" vaporware shit that is never coming. How long are you idiots going to drag this with no releases?

>>23013012 #
1. The idea to solve the liquidity problem is when the DEX is migrated to running on the Masternodes.
2. AFAIK staking doesn’t require an MN so you can stake any amount of XSN. You get rewards more frequently than MNs I believe, however the RoI of MNs should become much higher than staking when they are running DApps such as the DEX.

>>23013539
>>23013547
Again, how does releasing 4.0.4 during the middle of a hard fork make any sense?

>>23013497
exactly! that's why so many people are talking about xsn. they all know it's the superior product. i searched for xsn on the twitterings and even obama and miley cyrus are tweeting about it. it's so good. soon $100 and we will be richings. it's so easy in 2017, coughings, i mean 2020, for findings good projects like this. the people that don't know about xsn, are really stupids and know nothing about crypto. x9 is crypto. hail hydrings

>>23012685
no one has a full working product. uni has a scaling problem and eth wants to go to PoS.

people use them more than xsn - that is the only difference between the projects. granted, it's a significant difference, but that doesn't mean the devs approaching product development in the same manner is bad.

xsn devs are literally following the same approach as every other project trying to do something unique and useful, and they're the only ones getting flak for not naming a date.

it's whatever. buy the coin, don't buy the coin, it makes no difference to me in the end. the product itself will either see good use, or it will fail. I'm betting on it succeeding, but if it fails then so be it.

>>23013713
yes how does releasing an update make any sense you are right why would they do that
fucking dumbass
you always have excuses for everything but not a release date
really makes you think

>>23011545
>every 3 in 4 posts are from seething fudders
lmao youre not getting my stakies cz

>>23013746
it honestly doesn't. the team has delivered on a functional layer 2 solution already, which is more than any other developer but loopring.

arguing about "why don't they set a date" is concern trolling - most developers in crypto avoid calling dates like that because missing dates kills a project regardless of fundamentals, and devs rely on project viability to fund development.

if you want you can blame the fickle nature of crypto investors for a general lack of clear timelines being defined for most unique or innovative products, but it's 100% concern trolling to blame a single project uniquely for that choice.

>>23013746
v4.0.4 makes the DEX a lot easier to use for normies. Introducing something that makes the DEX easy and accessible during the middle of a fork where complications may arise would be foolish.
I'm more than happy to wait until October 8th for all the heavy lifting with the fork to wrap up. I think most people would say it's outright reasonable and sensible that they'd hold off on doing UI updates during all this.

>>23013713
lmao it's always something with this. They are notorious for not delivering what's on the roadmap. Note that what they're trying to do now (as the core wallet update was botched) was in the 2018 roadmap.

>>23014125
>more regurgitated fud
I'll link you back to the the angry FUD thread from 3 days ago where this same thing was raised verbatim.
>>22942683
>>22941867

$100/xsn is cool but let's get to $1 first. Wen $1?

New dev update

>>23014735
I think it could reach $1 by EOY depending on when Raiden gets implemented and how well the release goes

>>23014735
Never
>>23014649
It never got refuted that the devs are two years behind their own roadmap. Your seethe is palpable.
t. 105k holder that’s praying for this to hit a quarter again so I can sell and still make a little profit before getting into something with a competent team

>>23014839
Oh? I explained right here. >>22941867
Also
>the dev team is apparently 2 years behind on roadmap
>also i invested $26k in it apparently knowing this or without researching the project
>i bought high and it's XSNs fault because le vaporware garbage
You're all over the place here man. Side note - the hilarious thing about sociopaths is that they think they're so cunning and manipulative, but their web of lies and manipulation always tends to blow up in their face.

>>23014825
>on the way
>soon
>working on it
classic stuff, I must say.

>>23015043
>>the dev team is apparently 2 years behind on roadmap
Yes.
>>also i invested $26k in it apparently knowing this or without researching the project
Yes, I was dumb with some of my LINK gains and put a bunch into “the uniswap and binance killer!!!” in early august. That’s my fault.
>>i bought high and it's XSNs fault because le vaporware garbage
Yes.

I’m not lying at any point, and you seem to have me confused for somebody else with your “all over the place” autistic arm flapping since that was my only post in the thread

>>23015134
>progress is bad. that's why ive been stalking the thread of a coin im not invested in for hours
ok
>>23015149
>i only read moonboy posts and buy tall green candles, but it's everyone else's fault and you should listen to my investing advice
>i choose to keep holding xsn even though im grasping at straws to fud it
Kek. After all that the best thing you can do is pout about an almost 3 year old and admittedly ambitious roadmap that was made before the altcoin market lost 95% of its wealth.

>13 posts by this id
Thanks just dumped another 20k

>>23015505
>implying the vast majority of this thread isnt coordinated fud and seethe
fill my buy orders already

>>23015505
>j-just let us spam fud in peace
I'm not gonna stop talking about XSN until Raiden goes public. You're just gonna have to deal with it man.

>>23015871
>you’re spamming
>not me with 14 replies in one thread of which 90% amount to “n-no you”
Lol okay

>>23016010
>spam xsn fud on biz when no one's even talking about it
>make thread calling out obsessive fudders
>it immediately gets flooded with seethe and concern shilling
>respond to it with reasoning
>create even more baseless seethe
You're free to keep bumping the thread if you want.

>>23016010
whats all this?

How no fud bros how will we ever recover?

>>23017173
>they didnt cure cancer
>they didnt land on pluto
SCAM

>>23017442
>SCAM!
You fudders just never quit do you?

Just stopping by to say fuck the fudders, I'm feeling comfy

>>23011636
Just fuck off.
Morons like you used the same FUD about the light wallet before it got released.
It's always the next thing the are developing that you morons FUD about.
Once Raiden is out, then you clowns bitch about no news of which new erc20 tokens will get added and on and on.
Fuck off!!!

>>23017467
i was jk anon
got 150k, buying more atm

>>23014825
>soon

Another announcement of an announcement someone tell thes stupid fucks to stop doing that!

The only crypto's I have are Lition and Stakenet and I can sleep at night knowing for certain that my investments will appreciate at least 100x over the next few years.

>>23011671
thank you for reassurings very good due dilligencies from this comment

damn I quit browsing a month ago. I wrote about all the DEXes that were racing through that BS 'roadmap' they whipped up, either from 2017 or now. scams never change

>>23019461
Good luck to you.

>>23014839
$100. No it will go post it.
$1000 easy.

>>23014839
$100. No it will go past it.
$1000 easy.

>>23011545
oh I have 225,000 + XSN

>>23013547
did u buy in march?
cope

>>23021366
checked

Why does xsn make fudders so mad?

>>23021698
there's a lot of potential disruption represented by a functional cross-chain dex that can't easily be rugpulled or controlled by cefi.

>>23012864
fucking christ who let the pajeet in?

>>23021805
It's among the oldest time-honred honored traditions of fudding XSN

>>23019215
I would rather have communication from devs than not

>>23021709
this, it could kill shitcopins scammers.

>>23022042
It's been scraping by all through the bear, but it survived and its constantly delivering progress.
I don't see anything out right now that can compete with it.

>>23022543
Based. XSN is THE COIN.

>>23022875
Yes

>>23023000
Checked

I wonder if they could add support for the Ethereum based Xdai sidechain so that you could trade ERC20 tokens that have been bridged to Xdai. Anyone have an idea if that would be feasible? Lots of ERC20 projects are migrating to the Xdai sidechain.

>>23023202
Side chains are a meme.

>>23011545
XSN died like a month ago. only MN trying to sell. KEK LUL

>>23011545
it is pointed out at a scam because it is. tell me why you think it is a good project worth investing in

>>23023510
Tell me how/why it is a scam.
>>23023500
Never selling my nodes kike.

>>23023522
lol. all new projects are scams until proven otherwise, retard. sorry you missed btc, eth, and link. sinking your money here will not help

>>23023548
>new
It's from 2017 and they have been silently working for 2-3 years.

>>23023568
ok >retard. sorry you missed btc, eth, and link. sinking your money here will not help

>>23023604
Fuck off fudder. I got link/LP too. Now why don't you tell me how many masternodes you actually have.

>>23023638
LOL fudder's doesn't understand many xsn holders got in link early too.
Xsn will be worth so much I wont have to even touch my link and when staking starts on linkpool.
2025 EOY ranks
LINK #1
XSN #2

>>23011545
Haven't been following XSN for some time.
Didn't they want to implement Monero? Any ETA so far?

>>23023799
Monero needs to become lightning enabled first.

Just want to tell all the fudders that I am comfy as fuck with my three masternodes. Never selling.

>>23024024
based

>>23024024
plz make art though!