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22971644 No.22971644 [Reply] [Original]

You can call it manipulation if ya wanna. But the fact is that if the gatekeepers didn't dictate price action, the markets would crash.
I REPEAT
There is no such thing as the "invisible hand" of muh free market moving in accordance to muh supply and demand.

The sooner /biz/ reconciles that fact, the sooner anons may learn to identify the tell signs in previous price action where the central banks go long and short on an asset.

And no, you don't need to be genius MIT graduate working as a quant at Goldman Sachs in order to spot it.

>> No.22971656

tell me more OP...

>> No.22971662

>>22971644
(((invisible hand)))

>> No.22971702

>>22971662
Bingo.
And it's all algorithmically managed in every timeframe to the pip. It's akin to watching the ratios of a Mandelbrot set unfold along an x/y axis.

>> No.22971722

>>22971644
The obvisible hand is Satan. Look it up.
You would know if you weren't such a plebe. And no, markets wouldn't "crash" value if ls dictated by use or supply and demand. Without the whales you speak of, every worker in a liberal democracy would have much more wealth

>> No.22971724

OP, you genuinely shouldn't tell anon this. It ruins the game - put your pride aside (no one know who you are anyway), it's not rational to tell your opponents things that will help them.

>> No.22971746
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>>22971656
>As above so below, as the tides ebb and flow where see crash upon the sand, theres a MEDIAN at command.
All things return to a momentary state of balance. And thats what the central banks are doing.
>Making pure profit and balancing their longs and short positions to break even.

You should study the Inner Circle Trader if ya really wanna put the work into understanding how and why the markets are managed.

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22971804

Sir how do I identify? Is there a candle pattern?

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>>22971724
>it ruins the game
Nah, theres nothing I can say in a single thread that would illustrate how simple the system is. Theres too many variables one has to understand first before one gets to that hallelujah moment.

As for my "opponents", they always win. And when I win, they simply make a little less money than they otherwise would stealing candy from babes.

In other words. I agree, there should be a mountain to climb before the plebs see the market for what it is.

>> No.22971871

>wanna
Californians

>> No.22971924
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>>22971702
If it’s so mathematically predictable, then why aren’t you rich?

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>>22971722
>Freemason hidden hand

>> No.22971980

>>22971924
he is a third class node.js web dev and autistic

>> No.22972026

>>22971722
Look at nature anon. The same stratification exists there too. If it didn't, amebas would have gone extinct long ago.

>> No.22972060

>>22971860
It's a larp.
We know the world is manipulated. We know there are dimensional beings at play. We know the elite answers to higher powers. We know we are cattle.
OP is on some 33rd degree secrecy bullshit when as he said, it really is simple.
He is also retarded enough to think he has formed an understanding from his small wins. We all have small wins, it's nonsense.

>> No.22972064

>>22971980
>>22971924
>t. can't reconcile the farce of muh free market
(shrugs)
no sweat off my back

>> No.22972115

>>22972064
You can't imagine how happy I'm it worked out as planned. But I wouldn't necessarily bet on your side if I were a betting man

>> No.22972130

>>22972060
I love the skepticism. Such is why the majority of you resign yourselves to adhering to retail trading gurus and methodologies without ever bothering to investigate why only 10% of all traders make a living.
Hint: they ain't using muh indicators and muh rocket science quants

>> No.22972159

Please teach me how to identify them

>> No.22972174

>>22972115
>wouldn't bet on OP's side
I dont have a side. I'm just an opportunistic observer who often takes a ride on the market makers' backs.

>> No.22972181

>>22972159
join their discords, it is technically speaking insider trading

>> No.22972193

>>22972130
I love the assumptions you make, no so enlightened after all eh?

>> No.22972214

>>22972159
already did. Read all mub replies.

>> No.22972246

>>22972174
you get my twist. Tell the monkey I'm sorry, didn't wanted to be a hamster hater, just needed a confirmation

>> No.22972345

>>22972246
>twist
Like I said, one need not be a genius. I certainly am not. Just OCD. Thats it. My current understanding comes down to a twist of fate
>clicking the right video at the right time in my "evolution".

>> No.22972431

>>22972345
Not just OCD, but try to be more guardedly, such games can backfire rather quickly, especially if it can be construed as federal crimes

>> No.22972549
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>>22972431
>construed
Yes, (((lawyers))) love to create controversy where there is none. Their parasitic livelihoods depend on it.
Alas, I'm not telling anon where to buy and sell. I'm merely expressing an opinion. Which is both my civil and property right, seeing as my body and agency are belong exclusively to me.
>mfw a lawyer has to demonstrates how the markets are manipulated in order to prove that I shared how they're manipulated.
Fuck off, desu.

>> No.22972602

>>22972549
market manipulation is market manipulation, especially if playing in that market and leaving a truckload of evidence, but I'm entertained, and that is all that counts

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>>22972602
What is market manipulation, anon? Please explain how you know a market is actually being "manipulated".
Oh wait, by your logic, your explanation would be a federal crime.
>Nobody calls me beforehand to tell me when and where to buy and sell
>I don't tell anons when and where to buy and sell
i simply exercise my agency/property right in deciding where I want to buy and sell based on market conditions.
It's no different than identifying how and why the grass is green or the sky is blue.
And none of those conditions are dictated by me.
I simply operate off a methodology thats very accurate.

But don't worry, Im not gonna write a tell all nor hop on twitter to reveal your precious simple secret.

Calm down.

>> No.22972818

>>22972725
No need to be so aggressive, I got what I want, several months of good data that is comparable. Just telling you to be more careful, when I am able to see it, I'm certainly not the only one.

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>>22972602
>>22972431
>>22972246
>>22972181
>>22972115
>>22971980
>>22971871
>>22971724
KEK
OP got under these anons thin skin real quick.
really percolates muh olfactory apparatus

>> No.22972878

for all of you asking how it works
buy when its cheap
sell when its expensive
buy again when its cheap
you dont need to catch the exact bottoms and tops only the whales can do it (central banks, market makers whatever you want to call them)
just take a big chunk out of the middle and you will get rich

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>>22972818
Anon, perhaps there are some rather Not So Average individuals who've been monitoring me for years, because, perhaps they consider me a canary in a basket weaving coal mine. And, perhaps, your passive aggressive threats are already on the radar
But thanks for revealing that you view me as a business threat, not a law breaker.
And to think, it's only because you hate to see somebody say "the sky is blue" and "the grass is green" and "the markets are managed by central banks".

Again, I don't dictate those conditions. I just identify them like a scientist who can demonstrate the accuracy of his preferred methodology (before a magistrate) over and over and over and over and over and over and over, time and time again.

>> No.22973146

>>22972878
bingo

>> No.22973236

>>22973107
>business threat
What? I'm not sure if I can follow, and I'm not sure if you really know who I am, judging by the thread. But nevertheless I really enjoy the insights, cognition and entertainment, and testing my hypothesis. But something we both might work on is our arrogance.

And regarding central banks, I'm not opposed to your opinion, I share it in some way, but it can't be changed.

Have a good day mander, I need to sleep, big day tomorrow

>> No.22973307

>>22972130
are you referring to orderflow?

>> No.22973344

>>22973236
I do appreciate your cautionary advice, anon.
>message recieved

Be well. Sleep well and do slay tomorrow like the SavageChad.jpg the Universe designed you to be.

Peace.

>> No.22973403

>>22971644
>the fact is that if the gatekeepers didn't dictate price action, the markets would crash.
The markets crash either way
>There is no such thing as the "invisible hand" of muh free market moving in accordance to muh supply and demand.
You can say it's not good, or not effective, but are you really saying it's impossible for someone to judge the value of something?
>The sooner /biz/ reconciles that fact
Nobody here cares about economic philosophy, only if they can buy low, sell high, so they can make more money to gamble away in the end anyways.

>> No.22973680

>>22973307
>order flow
I believe thats an ICT concept, snepai
Much of the foundation of what constituents my understanding are concepts authored and taught by ICT publicly. Though I am also referring to things I've gleaned from my own study, back testing and understanding. Things that nobody teaches, far as I know. Things that, if Michael is aware of, he wisely refrains from explicitly revealing publicly, As for his mentorship, I have no clue what he teaches there.
Regardless, Huddleston is a godsend and the fucking GOAT, in my opinion....which is why I dropped his name in a reply above.

>> No.22974021

>>22973236
>And regarding central banks, I'm not opposed to your opinion, I share it in some way, but it can't be changed.
Why would we wish to change it? The central banks are a necessary "evil" that wouldn't be so evil if they'd fucking refrain from financing clandestine CIA mayhem and murder.

>> No.22974458

>>22972602
>market manipulation is market manipulation
pure semantics. accurate traders are not >>22972602
guilty of market manipulation, the central banks are. and i believe the Reagan administration enacted a policy that allows such "manipulation"/management vis a vis the central banks as a matter of national security and economic stability.
>look at how the Fed brrrrrrrrrrred a V shape recovery.

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>>22971724
>>22971871
>>22971980
>>22972115
>>22972181
>>22972246
>>22972431
>>22972602
>>22972818
>>22973236
C'mon Mikey, you're the one who opened pandora's box and went public with it. Dont hate on your best pupils.

>> No.22975143

>>22975080
The GOAT mistakes OP for one of his traitorous mentorship students.
TOP KEK

>> No.22975505

>>22973107
Just tell me they are not going to ruin LINK and will leverage the tech instead.