/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22865672
That's a man

>>22865672
Im not reading that shit, but that's a cute girl.

>>22865672
Move out of that shithole, the state should not take half of your earning, ever. You are not a slave to the state

>>22865672
Mann, hvor har du dette fra?
Det er bare 22-23% skatt på kapitalinntekt

Norway is the hub for NPCs, everyday is literally the same. Why'd you even make it? Nothing will change, maybe you can go to the city center, drink and eat kebab, but that's about it.

If you're seriously seeing a fraction of those numbers you mentioned, I'd recommend moving out.

Don't get me wrong, Norway isn't a bad country, but it's as aforementioned, a hub for NPCs. It's like the tutorial island everyone starts on.

>>22865672
Move to America. The most you would ever have to pay here is 20%.

>>22865775
dette. hvor fjærn er du gubbe

>>22865672
Move to Peurto rico and keep a summer home in Norway

>>22865775
>>22865796
LARP, OP doesn't have those figures, unless it's inherited or dad's money

>>22865786
That’s buulll shit it’s 45% if you’re making millions

>>22865672
Fucking clown world

>>22865834
No it isn't. The top rate on long term capital gains is 20%. It can never be higher than that, unless you live in a one of the cucked liberal states that additionally taxes you.

>>22865672

Move to Somalia where there’s no communist big government then. I’m sure a strong independent man like you could make it anywhere ;^)

>>22865775
Fra Google går du til Skattekalkulatoren, skriv inn 60 millioner i skatt, så ser du hva du får

er du dum? skatten på krypto er 22 prosent

Wow look at his stinker

>>22865883
Omg, Skattekalkulatoren>60 millioner, da får du et resultat som viser at skatten din er på 30 millioner kroner
Det er et ganske velkjent faktum at rikere skylder 50% av det de tjener her i landet

Put it all in USDT, DAI, Monero, BTC and ETH through and cash out like 10k a month if you need it

>>22865908
Rikere folk*

>>22865672
Move to Portugal, if Norway has a double tax agreement with Portugal you can cash out your crypto tax free.

>>22865935
we speak english here, sir

Sjekk ut Bø i Vesterålen gutta.
0,35% i formueskatt bare i forhold til 0,85%.

>>22866102
that's not how it works, de skriver det men det er annerledes, they always "hide" these extra taxes but say this to incentive people to move somewhere less populated. Russia does this on all their eastern cities.

>>22865672
>I go to University where I am constantly told by Liberal students and professors that I am worthless and oppressive of everyone, because I am a white male and I am responsible for everyone's misery
is this truly happening in Norway? when did teachers start with this bullshit? what grade / how old were you when you started hearing this crap? really want to know.

>>22865672
If you like money more than living in Norway then move. Otherwise suck it up.

>>22865908
>>22865935
Er du helt amøbe eller? Du fører inn 60 millioner på feil type inntekt.

Før det inn på 3.1.15 så får du se

>>22866151
Det er akkurat sann det fungerer i dette tilfelle.
En kommune kan velge hvor mye de vil ha inn som formueskatt, staten tar uansett 0,15%.
Så Vesterålen tar bare inn 0,20% i formueskatt fra 2021 for å dermed tiltrekke seg "rikinger".

>>22866195
Eller 3.1.12 på Annen inntekt under Aksjer og verdipapirer.

Det er forskjell på _lønn_ og kapitalinntekt din dust

>>22865672
>I go to University
Where education is paid by the state. I bet your appartement and your food are subsidized by the state too, you lazy student nigger.
You do realize your whole country and the infrastructure is paid by oil alone? The state is literally building the whole country and letting you live there with top of the world quality of living, that you would by no means achieve by yourself. Your whole damn life you've lived in a paradise built and paid by the state and their oil. If not for the oil, your standard of living would be similar to iceland or rural parts of Sweden.
And you have the nerve to whine about the state taking something from you, as if it had not given you anything at all? If you lived in some poor country, I'd maybe feel sympathy for you, but Norway? Come on.

>>22865672
just move to a tax heaven and after ~1 year or so you'll be able to cash out all your crypto safely. See an attorney.

>>22865949
This.

If you don't have any options and are forced to pay taxes, it might be good to realize you're paying for the peace of mind of living in one of the top 5 countries in the world*.

t. Also a top 5 country resident. I have to pay lots of taxes compared to the country (top 50) I lived in until last year. The constant stress of having to worry about vandalism to my nice car, pickpockets, or home burglars is definitely not worth paying less taxes. I see high taxes as the cost of living in a place where poor people aren't as poor as to feel the desire or need to fuck up your shit.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI

>>22865672
Gotta pay for that "free" healthcare somehow!

>>22866225
Super based

>>22866225
STFU Hegel

>>22866166
Ever since I got into studying social sciences at the University, every lecture is just

>so there are so many ways you can be marginalised
>if you're black, female, a woman
>unironically lecturers using the word incels for a Conservative news outlet
>"that's a right wing news outlet? They are incels"
>have any of you students watched the new Netflix show I May Destroy You where black women are raped by white men?

>>22866225
Yeah, I agree that I should pay a huge amount of taxes for the amount of good things I'm getting

10 million from a citizen is both fair and also an extremely huge amount of money

But 30 million? Nothing can justify that, the state has never ever put that amount of money into me personally

>>22865935
Lawyer anon here, simply give up your citizenship and move to a country with a fixed rate tax or no tax country.

Look up: www.nomadcapitalist.com

>>22865672
If you have that much money, just move the country to some shithole that doesn't tax you and then move back.

>>22865672
your wealth is only secured by the state.
they enforce the laws that provide the stability for earning wealth and retaining wealth.
you entered into this social contract willingly.
If it wasn't willingly, then you admit your earned wealth was merely a result of happenstance, just like your wealth.
In either case, you are charge more because you are inherently a higher demanding and higher risk client.
If you don't believe me, try earning 60 million in profits in Nigeria or some other stateless shithole.

why is it so hard for you capitalist fucks to understand this.

>>22866617
doesn't matter...you have to pay for everyone who doesn't provide but still uses the services.

>>22866727
you are a fucking cucked piece of shit lmao
>thinks that being forced to pay outrages taxes is normal and benefits society

>>22866574
jesus christ anon, so it begins in Norway. sounds like Norway is where the US was about 20 years ago, just isolated to University social studies type courses. Hopefully it isn't making it's way into the lower level schooling yet.

>>22866727
>Go to Nigeria
>Use internet to buy crypto
>Make 60M in profits
>Keep wealth in crypto, cash out small amounts when needed
I'm not sure I understand the problem here? A rich man keeping his money in the bank may be concerned, but a rich man keeping his money in the blockchain has nothing to worry about, and that certainly isn't paid for by the state. But please I'm sure the government is happy to know its people are still happily giving away the money they are slaving away to earn.

>>22866617
>Supports the high-tax welfare state
>Doesn't want to pay high taxes himself

>>22865672
>Why are they entitled to half of MY shit when they didn't do Jack shit for it
Gave you roads, healthcare, education, police, and an all-around happy place to live statistically compared to the rest of the world. Also you don't live in Norway and won't make 60 million so you don't need to lose sleep over a LARP.

>>22866727
>you entered into this social contract willingly.
no fuckwit, being born into a social contract is not entering into it willingly
>If it wasn't willingly, then you admit your earned wealth was merely a result of happenstance, just like your wealth.
no you nigger tier IQ dimwit. being born into a shit social contract and then succeeding against all odds do to actions that you take to further your own sucess is not happenstance... you communists are the stupidest people on earth aside from somalis

>>22866632
I looked that up, and you can't tell me he didn't hire a bunch of slavic prostitutes as his entire team.

>>22866727
Yes, the same jew governments that perpetuate the virus fraud, perpetuate the fraud that is the current financial system, indoctrinate children in the schools, import niggers, spics, sandniggers, and chinks, and force whites at gunpoint to go along with it all, is the reason a man can have any success in life. God help you.

>>22866819
Thank Breivik for giving them 10 years delay.

Norwaybro will have to balance personal security and comfort with freedom from taxes. All the states that wouldn't come after you for cashing out eight figures also can't protect you from the hyenas that can smell a rich guy who doesn't know the ropes.

>>22866870
>Gave you roads
taxes stolen and spent on roads for you is not a gift
>healthcare
yes, rationed healthcare is sooooooo great anon. waiting in line for the committee chosen therapy that is chosen to save the country money as priority #1... such a gift.
>education
taxes
>police
yes, the underequipped and understaffed police that won't show up when your car is stolen even if you know where the thief has the vehicle because they don't have enough resources - what a gift, freely given from taxes taken.
>an all-around happy place to live statistically compared to the rest of the world
except that's just horseshit propaganda pushed by the same groups every single year. Norwegians are not that happy anon, it's just leftist propaganda worshipping a state that has embraced a higher level of socialistic service providing than the US. By and large, the majority of Norwegians that I meet would prefer to live in the United States.
. Also you don't live in Norway and won't make 60 million so you don't need to lose sleep over a LARP.

>>22866973
Then move, incel.

>>22865672
I don't know if you're talking about stock but if you are sell your stock and invest in gold or something else I believe they cant tax you unless you've taken a profit thus buying something else such as gold is gonna keep your money safe while they cant touch it.

>>22866993
is that how you respond whenever you get your ass handed to you my ignorant anon?

>>22865672
>All my sleepless nights, my losses, MY stress.
you browse a mongolian basket weaving forum so you know when to trade your wow gold, chill out

>>22866632
You have to pay taxes to norway for like 5 years before ur citizenship ends or some shit like that, just like burgers.

>>22865672
Hva slags høyskole går du på? Høres ut som du er en /pol/akk som ikke sto på eksamen og gjør alt du kan for å pisse på skolen.

>>22865861
Somalia is a statist hellhole

>>22865786
Lies

That's what you get for living in the scandinavian utopia.
>effective tax rate ~80-90%
>housing queues and shortages
>months long doctor waiting lists
>migrants and single moms getting free gibs
>social mobility non existant
>no one is poor but you are either lower middle class or filthy rich no inbetweens

>>22865672
move to panama
invest 300k in property
start getting a legal residence in the country
make all your money outside of the country (it will not be taxed)
quit being a dane.
(also read about trusts in panama and other legal vehicles for wealth protection)
enjoy.

>>22866225
this x50

but 50% from gains is a bit mad, but I think anon realized and appreciates the state, but if you take 30 million out of 60, that's demotivating people from doing the same, so more and more people won't work. This makes the country spend more on people and less income from tax. Just need a balance yknow

>>22865834
It’s literally 20% for long term capital gains. 45% is on short term capital gains for property (crypto, stocks, etc.) sold within 1 year and a day of purchase.

>>22867016
What response did you want? Surely with 60 mil you can afford to live anywhere you want. If you are unhappy to then fix your circumstances. With all that money if you can't make yourself happy then the problem is you. I'm just telling you where the money goes.

>>22865672
WELCOME TO SOCIALISM, BRO

>>22865949
the only correct answer in this thread. planning to do this as well

>>22865672
>>22865949
>>22867647
also, you dont even need to move there. you just need to buy a cheap house/flat/shithole and make your permanent residency there. get a portugese bank account and you are done. maybe you will have to spend 7-14 days every year there to keep your residence but thats it, you can live wherever the fuck you want

>>22867681

It sickens me to the core how easily the Portuguese state sells out my country.

>>22866899
kek and checked
its almost all balkan skanks

>>22866870
I very much do live in Norway, that I can assure you of

And to all the anons saying "just keep your money on the blockchain", we'll the Norwegian IRS demands you tell them about all assets you have in crypto as well

>>22866225
Holy based

>>22867807
yeah, should be terrible with all the european crypto millionaires having residence in Portugal and making investments there. it's called a smart fucking long term move and you are just insecure cuz you are a poorfag

and btw establishing permanent residence is the same process in every country, Portugal is no exception

You don't pay 50% tax on investment profits you retarded nigger faggot

>>22867251
Jeg går på UiO, jeg er ingen /pol/ack, alt jeg sier har skjedd meg i løpet av den siste måneden
Hovedlæreren vår er homo
Vi prater hele tiden om vold mot kvinner, homofobi, Trump, transrettigheter osv. osv.

Det får meg til å føle at jeg valgte feil studie selv om det er en ekte "vitenskap"
Jeg var aldri flink i matte eller naturfag og det var derfor jeg var nødt til å studere noe samfunnsrelatert men dette her hadde jeg ikke forventet altså

>>22865672
Move to Portugal.

They don't tax crypto and after 6 months you can already start cashing out.

>>22865672
Black metal band

>>22867957

Won't deny I'm a poorfag. The problem is that the real estate is reaching ludricous values in comparison to the average purchasing power off the locals due to all the foreign investment gobbling up the market. This is happening all over the western world sure, but here it's even shittier.

>>22867647
>>22867681
>>22867957
Yeah, I'm thinking you are retarded. I am from Scandinavia and have lived in several different EU countries. It does not work even close to your fantasy.

>>22868006
Låter knepigt anon. Hoppas det blir bättre. btw jag har svårt att tro att Norge skulle ha högre kapitalinkomstskatt än Sverige. Vi har 30%, 50% låter sinnessjukt.

>>22868008
Some portuguese crypto traders said they are planning to implement cap gains taxation for crypto. Also, if you are from Scandinavia you can forget it. All of these shitholes tax you for years based on citizenship after you leave, and the tax treaties with Portugal are fucked up and favor the Scandi countries

>>22865672
>In Norway if I make it and receive 60 million dollars, the state is entitled to 30 million dollars.
>bitching about having 30 million dollars

ngmi

>>22866225
this, imagine being in the us and having to pay similar taxes but also having to pay for school and having much worse quality of life growing up

>>22866574
>I got into studying social sciences
go back before you fuck your life up and study cs

>>22866882
>no fuckwit, being born into a social contract is not entering into it willingly
>I DIDN'T ASK TO BE BORN MOM

>>22868249
My Plan A was to retire soon on São Miguel with my qt pt island girl wife but I noticed prices nearly doubling in the past few years. Not only that but cost of living is increasing.

>>22865672
Norway's a pretty good place to have them take half your gains, as painful as it is, imagine that someone where I live like the fucking UK.

It's a case of they can fuck you up if you don't pay, like a loan shark, except the loan is your free life and the payment is your gains.

>>22865786
I see you fuckers moan about your crypto taxes all the time on here and the most you pay is 20%. I thought it was higher, Fuck you guys.

>>22865672
> I live in arguably the country with the highest standard of living in all of recorded human history
> muh taxes
You need a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA

>>22868278
hahahaha whatever you say buddy

you must have also dug through all the legal documents concerning the matter like I did to know what you are talking about right? oh no wait actually, you just lived in a few countries... that makes your word a lot more credible than mine indeed

the only way this doesnt work is that if the double taxation agreement with portugal and norway or whatever country you are living in has an exception for this case, I am not an expert in each countries law. if your double tax agreement is written in a way that this isnt possible then well though shit for you scandi cunt

>>22867934
See >>22866993

>>22866102
Jobba hos Framsikt AS før, hyggelig gjeng

>>22868613
I just read it takes 5 years to get residency in Portugal.. is there a way to accelerate the process?

>>22869084
You're talking about the golden visa program non EU citizens. EU citizens can just get their permanent residency in Portugal just like that, but yes, it's 5 years for the golden visa program.

>>22865672
move to the netherlands and pay 1,9% of your crypto

>>22869172
Nice, yeah I read something else that says you need to be there 183 days to be considered a resident for tax purposes. Could you not have any job there & freely cash out crypto?

I guess the only downside would be having your money in a bank there.

Can't you go to malta? I heard it's a European tax haven.

>>22865672
>Born in one of the absolute best places to be born in on earth
>Gets life served on a silver platter
>Still finds reason to complain about said place
>Have to make up a fictional tax rate to make the complaints more palatable
>zeh liberals ruins my life because I'm a snowflake
Fucking degen incel

>>22869218
To qualify as non-habitual tax resident, an individual must be considered as tax resident in Portugal
in a certain year and he/she cannot have been tax resident in the previous 5 years.
In general terms, an individual is deemed to be tax resident in Portugal if one of the following
conditions is met:
• more than 183 days are spent in Portugal in any 12-month period starting or ending in the fiscal
year concerned; or
• having spent less than 183 days in Portugal, an individual maintains a residence suggesting being a
habitual residence in Portugal in any period within the above 12-month.


as I said, if you buy some cuckshed for 5000 euros somewhere, and then go through the process of asking for permanent residency there while also resigning your permanent residence in your home country (and also turning in papers to become a national living in a foreign country, not sure how this is said in english), then you should be good from the get go. this applies if you are an eu citizen and you also need to check the dual tax agreement for details if this works for you. works in my country luckily