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>>22854168
Did you check your browser history thoroughly?

>>22854168
>Low-IQ tranny gets fucked over
Imagine my shock

anime posters are dumb

>>22854177
>>22854183
I was pretty cautious with the whole thing. I still don't know how they found out.
I've been thinking that chances are, they fucking found out for months, even years now, and just stole money when it had a bunch.
Now I'm just scared of copy pasting anything at this point.

Metamask is just unreliable at this point.

>>22854173
Yeah, I still don't know how they did it.

you gonna keep making this post everyday? fucking kill yourself faggot

>>22854270
I want to get out but I can't.
And I just made a thread once yesterday. I was staring at the roof of my room all night.
Fuck.

>>22854168
it doesn't matter, if you use your computer for games or anything else besides crypto you can get a rat that lets someone get in your metamask. don't put savings account values in metamask, it's like a pocket wallet that you could lose

>>22854168
Ive got only 6eth on metamask and im still scared after anons post about being phished. Ive got fresh win10 install from microsoft website for 10months and a malwarebytes premium while i dont pirate games and do much on pc

>>22854370
What do you do to protect your uniswap money?

>>22854405
Move it to a hardware wallet?

>>22854168
what operating system were you using?

I keep most of my stack on earnbet as its more secure there

>>22854395
I'm thinking of doing a malwarebytes sweep on my mobile and just getting a new wallet there from Trust Wallet.
But I'm scared of importing that shit to my pc because they might copy my passphrase.

>>22854443
Hell, central exchanges sound safer than fucking metamask these days. Fuck.

>>22854405
i don't understand your question
any big amounts that you want to hold need to go to a hardware or an offline/paper wallet. you can keep coins on metamask but it's higher risk

>>22854482
>>22854443
Paper wallets are probably the best choice and hardware wallets.
God, I am fucking paranoid now.
Metamask and ether wallets are just that unreliable. And I think I was generally careful of everything

>>22854168
>using mobile shits
Did you copy a password or something? Apps can actually grab anything you copied regardless of whether they're not currently active.

Are these posts a Ledger/Trezor marketing campaign or something? Post your wallet op.

>>22854566
In my memory, no.
That's the thing. Maybe I did 2 years ago and they got it then. I usually keep it empty anyways, but I put a money in liquidity pools, and it ended up being stolen.

>>22854586
0x0478ab344463CB4D08806b14eB24895B637bdcF3

>>22854503
>>22854472
mobile is usually less secure than pc
metamask was never intended to be a holder wallet. it's intermediate for using with web3 applications. They used to make you agree in their Beta that you could lose everything.
>ether wallets are just that unreliable
if there's a keylogger and rat on your pc, then which wallet or app doesn't matter. If you setup a wallet on a compromised computer and expose your private key then your wallet is unsafe. This is why everyone should buy a hardware wallet or use a clean offline computer to generate a new wallet for holding.
>God, I am fucking paranoid now.
You should not be, there's risk in all things and this anon is very unlucky. You wouldn't put your life savings in a chrome extension so... don't.

How does CB Wallet compare to MM in terms of safety?

>>22854602
>metamask was never intended to be a holder wallet. it's intermediate for using with web3 applications
That's the problem with Uniswap. It relies in these holder wallets. I want to participate but now I'm pretty scared about it.

>>22854681
you can use a hardware wallet with metamask if you think you must leave your liquidity pool tokens in the same address
otherwise I don't know what you mean by uniswap relying on unsafe hold wallet.s

>>22854681
Jesus. Just keep how much you're prepared to lose within a metamask wallet. It's the same as any exchange. Anything which is a long term hold keep within several different types of secure wallet. Paper, hardware etc

>>22854825
Im a poorfag and loosing my 6eth would fuck my shit up. Should i make cold wallet or buy some dongle thing?

>>22854207
Metameme is definitely compromised. Been seeing to many anons get hacked recently. I moved everything to binance.

>>22854168
*ahem*
here's how you got hacked. >>22637526

do not despair however. bull run has just begun, you can make 50x from whatever you have left if you are smart

>>22854681
Let me guess... running windows?

>>22854661
About the s', only use them as hot wallets for amounts so small you wouldn't bother to pick it up if you accidentally stepped on the equivalent amount in cash. I wouldn't keep funds on binance, but I'd keep funds on binance before moving to cb or mm. Hardware wallet if not paranoids, airgapped tails on dedicated glypto laptop + paper wallet if yes paranoids. Anything else is half assing it. Ledger is so easy too, it's made for tech illiterate fb moms so no excuses about muh complicated.

>>22854745
Thanks for the advice.

>>22854825

>>22855515
ur uni and eth are stacked in liquidity pool. why are u lying op? now1 stole anything from that wallet. same thing yesterday u claimed that some1 stole all ur links and u never even had one link in ur wallet. every1 can confirm just warosu the adress or check etherscan. SAD!

Begging pajeet tries it again
I should post more than screenshots of 4chan post Michlan.

>>22854168
Download RogueKiller

>>22855606
I had LINKS in Binance. I converted it to ETH in a plan to buy some in Uniswap instead with the liquidity pool shit.

>now1 stole anything from that wallet
Why do you say so?
Do you know where all the money went to?
Check all the people that deposited eth in that wallet, either from a hacker or from other people who got their eth stolen too.
>>22855074
Windows? Yeah.
>>22855632
If only that shit didn't happen. Fuck.

>>22855666
yes. they are on uniswap uni eth pool.

>>22855644
How is it different from windows defender?

>>22855644
I have malwarebytes, and also another antivirus. I was gonna upgrade but well goodbye money.

>>22854168
Anon there's a few things I want you to think about
1. You might have sent it to the wrong address of your own. Check all of your addresses. One time I was transferring funds and autofilled an old address without me realizing and I then proceeded to wipe my entire phone because after a few minutes I saw I didn't have the crypto. After a factory reset of the phone and re installing everything and accepting that my phone had been compromised I decided to check my other addresses. I then saw what happened and my eth was still in my possession.
2. if you have lost a significant amount of funds now is the time.to realize you could've reduced your loss greatly. Use multiple wallets. If one is compromised its not entirely over.
3. If in the end you're really fucked out of a decent chunk of change, do whatever you can to get back into a significant position. If that means throwing the rest of the cash you have do it. If you aren't roping now you will when eth moons without you.
4. Go fishing. It's the best cope. I forget About everything and just fish for hours

>>22855666
Numbers nice so I tell bit more. If you not larping, posting addresses with names or other identification on 4chan or anywhere else not good idea, makes easier. Don't be retard Satan.

>>22854168
>keeping his keys on his everyday machine
>how did this happen to me?
Thank you for your sacrifice. There’s still time to mi if you get down to McDonalds and take a job

>>22855850
I don't see why posting a public address is even slightly risky.
Or posting with a name.

>>22855798
That's what's scary about this. There is a slight chance all my wallets are possibly compromised. Not like it has anything on it.
Though all my investment in crypto is gone. All of it.
Except for a few link in Binance.

>>22855866
You retard no hope

>>22854207
>I was pretty cautious with the whole thing
you have done some mistakes.. tell your Opsec anon

>>22854207
>just scared of copy pasting anything at this point.
what do you mean?
>>22854207
>Metamask is just unreliable at this point
metamask is your problem

>>22854395
>mask and im still scared after anons post about being phished
How do get they phished on metamask?

>>22855932
Putting anything in the clipboard, I mean. Especially pass phrases.

>metamask is your problem
I've lost any kind of trust with metamask.

>>22855944
Links. But I always double check links I press.

>>22854168
where did you store your recovery phrase?

>>22856258
Paper.
But around 6 days ago, I opened my hiddes recovery phrase to copy it on a piece of paper. I never copy pasted it, nor did I put it in a clipboard.
I was robbed 2 days ago.
Is there a chance they could see my seed phrase?

>>22854168
>metamask
There, I found your problem. Never trust any web browser.

>>22856277
if you find out how it happened, pls update us
im very interested in what your security flaw was, because im now paranoid as fuck too

I use Windows10 and Firefox, but i have NoScript installed and uBlock Origin
How safe am I?

I store my keys on my computer, but encrypted with AES-256

>>22855866
>posting a public address is even slightly risky.
It isn't
>posting with a name
If you use that name only here, it shouldn't either. But if used also elsewhere, it starts to become not very clever to say the least. Have you ever chatted with an Asian cutie or a Russian hottie on discord or telegram or any other of those very secure apps? Clicked on any Links posted on here that weren't https, downloaded images from here (and yes, you can put malicious code in memes, not as easy as it once was but still doable)? There are so many possibilities to steal your tokens, and the biggest issue isn't metamask, it is you, the idiot in front of the screen

>>22856461
I'm trying to find out.
I contacted Metamask about this.

>>22856488
I also use it in other places but over in 4chan that name is too infamous. I don't use "M chln" on 4chan anymore.

>>22856508
>infamous on 4chan
there you have it, you got phished
Goof job, you are an easy target. Update your opsec, infosec and don't sign for packages you didn't order

>>22856538
I'm infamous for many reasons, and apart from the few times I got recognized in other sites and once by strangers in a steam game, nobody wants to ""hack"" me. I'm pretty harmless for the most part, so I don't think people would do anything like that to me. I don't get why they're obsessed over me.

>>22855666
>selling LINK

>>22856557
>I don't think people would do anything like that to me
and there you are wrong. If I were you, I would change everything. Delete all my social media, steam accounts, discord shit, maybe go so far as to replace hardware. This place is infamous for having the worst of the worst and most intelligent predators hunting for idiots like you

>>22855866
>Except for a few link in Binance
Here we go you have some full link tokens, what a lucky guy

>>22856621
I'm not an idiot, and the fact that a name and a public address can get you hacked at all is wishful thinking, at best.

>keeping your money in a wallet
>keeping your entire wealth in just one wallet
I've slept well ever since I simply stored the cash on binance. And over the years they've proven more secure than wallets

>>22856621
>Most intelligent predators
Lol no, this place has the dumbest users, rather.

>>22856628
That isn't worth a lot.

>>22855946
>Putting anything in the clipboard
Why this is not safe bros?

>>22856809
>Admits to use the name he is infamous for elsewhere
>Makes thread about having his metamask emptied
>Bro don't worry, posting public addresses on 4chan is safe.

>>22856960
Tell me why posting a public address isn't safe then.

>>22856886
Bots and malware

>>22854168
>mactoddlers and wangblowsfags btfo

>>22856277
So you had u recovery phrase "hidden" in your pc. This is how u got hacked.

>>22857004
It isn't saved in my PC.

just keep it all on binance faggot

>>22857011
Where u copied it from to your paper? It wasnt on ur pc?

>>22857039
It's in the extension.

>>22857053
What is extension

>>22857053
Literally google "browser extension safe". If u store ur keys in a pc, extension, phone etc you are asking for trouble.

>>22857092
Anon, that shit is encrypted in MM, even as an extension. Not to be rude, but do you know what you're talking about

>>22857109
Im talking about storing your private keys. Paper and hardware wallets are your only foorproof option

>>22857150
MM encrypts your Private Key. Except when you reveal it, maybe? I dunno the specifics.
I never saved that key except in that extension. That's why I'm trying to figure out how they did it.

>>22857176
Literally only way to get hacked om metamask is either. Stolen keys or physical access to computer while mm is open.

>>22857176
If the hacker sees ur screen while private key is visible. its enough

>>22856976
You are a disingenuous prick. Karma is a bitch

Jesus
I have my shit at metamask. Are hardware wallets easy to use in regards to uniswap gambling?

>>22857324
Metamask is as safe as your privatekey/phrase. Hardware wallets are safe because they never reveal the key

If you're cute you can give feet pics in exchange for link

>>22857252
Yeah, that is a big possibility.

>>22857266
I am not a prick. You can't even prove me wrong, faggot.

>>22857324
Yes, I want to ask this question too.

>>22857352
you don't seem to contest the disingenuousness, which confirms the prick.

>>22857334
Well I set it up long time ago and didn't input my passphrase since then. I've split the passphrase into the texts files, two of them require phone 2-factor authentication to access.

I still need to create a key for the hardware wallet no?

While we're at this, Trezor or Ledger?

>>22857415
both are good, as long as it's a hardware wallet

>>22857415
Long time ago implies that they would alrdy hacked u if u were compomised. However if u use mew u kinda have to type ur pkey every time which is really really bad for security. Mew is fine. I think trezor is better since its open source

>imagine keeping all of your wealth in a single wallet

>>22857415
However i would never store my keys in pc or online no matter what.

>>22857485
Fair point, I'm just atraid of misplacing a piece of paper/slab of metal

>>22854168
Ok Im going to not be a dick here and just give you some advice.
You have 2 choices now. Either you start over fresh, maybe just use secure DEXes from now on and not Metamask/Uniswap. You can work a job, or if you already have a job, make more hours to speed up the funds you have for crypto to get back into the game quicker. Thats option 1.
Option 2 is forget about crypto, now that might be difficult for you at first, just avoid everything to do with crypto, hell, even block the websites on your browser if you have to.

Those are your only 2 options, when bad shit happens you shouldnt stay stuck in 'the problem' but work towards solutions. Good luck anon, I feel bad for you, but you can still make it if you really want to

Also, being a piece of electronics won't a hardware wallet eventually fail?
This is perhaps a retarded question so feel free to call me a retard, in the case of losing or a house fire what workarounds do we have to retrieve the wallet?

>>22857969
Wallet just stores the keys. The blockchain is like a really, really long piece of paper with a list of every transaction and holdings of every wallet. To send crypto (i.e. write a send transaction to the bottom of the paper), you need the key to a wallet, which is just a random string. Your hardware wallet just has the key to your wallet and only gives it to metamask when it needs to do a transaction and you press the button on the device, which metamask then promptly deletes.

>>22857850
It's really hard.
Hell, I can't stop thinking about how much money I lost.
Dammit. Fuck.

>>22857969
Hardware wallets have a recovery phrase. (Dont store it in pc or chrome extension or its not a cold wallet)

>>22858021
You lost like 6k? Man the fuck up dude.

>>22858071
I live in a place where that amount is probably equivalent to $10,000 for you.

>>22858021
Lost 6 eth so around 2k. Really. Not a biggie

>>22858100
Not for me

>>22858058
What about a couple of encrypted USB pen drives requiring password to access?

>>22854892
Is my ether wallet better?

I would keep it on my iPhone which I keep pretty locked down

>>22854168
you did it wrong. all the while you could have been trying to figure out SAFEX but here we are ya know?

>>22858903
>>22858957
>>22859037
What about a piece of paper for private key (only for storage not for transactions, if u transact u make new one) for daily use metamask with seedphrase written in paper. Hardwarewallet is better than those listed above. If u store it on pc with encrypted txt ur taking extra risk since you could force break the encryption etc. Just order a tezor and use metamask and ur set for life

>>22859457
Literally u can think about it like this. If u ever see the private key on ur screen or if u type it on ur pc the wallet is compomised every time. Same with phone etc.

>>22859457
>...if u store it on pc with encrypted txt ur taking extra risk since you could force break the encryption etc.

explain the logic here? yes, you could break the encryption of course, but the entire point of encryption is to make the encryption robust enough that you buy time.

>>22859490
Thanks for your time and input anon. I'm convinced

>>22859724
Private key is inmpossible to crack. A winrar with passcode can be forced. U dont get any additional benefits from storning it in ur pc. Buy time for what? U dont know if its compromised untill u lose everything. Please enlighten me why would u store it even in encrypted file?

If u dont use hardware wallet u have to make a new paper wallet every time u type out the pk since after that ur wallet is hot. So if make transaction u move all remaining tokens Nd eth to ur new one. Keep airgapped laptop for making new wallets. Anyway its alot easier to use hardware wallet. Paperwaller is ok if u dont use it. Only store

i've accidentally sent .25 btc to a fake mixer, 3 XMR to a fake web wallet, and forgotten the password for a LTC wallet in which i mined 3LTC. feels.

>>22860356
I got high when I was 16 and changed the password to my dogecoin wallet, which had close to 300k in it. Never remembered the password again, tried dozens of times over the next days. I’ve made a lot more mistakes than that (buying a SR vendor acct days before it was shut down for 20 BTC to sell ebooks/invites/malware, selling BTC early when I was 14 or 15, etc)

>>22860272
>'encrypted' winrar?
im not talking about a 'password protected' folder, im talking about encrypting the text itself. as for, 'what you're buying time for' any encryption based security posture should be accompanied with rotating 'passwords'.
in other words, you should be cycling to a new wallet on a basis consistent with the complexity of the password used to secure the file that stores the private key.

>>22860411
i remember being outraged that btc had hit £30, i spent literally hundreds upon hundreds of BTC on weed. i could have been so ridiculously rich id i'd just stashed 'em.

>>22860517
At least you spent your BTC on something, I threw mine at satoshidice or VPSes/seedboxes for private torrent trackers, basically dumb shit a 15 year old would spend “money” on just because I’d never worked a job and never had money. I had referral links producing over half a BTC a week, I’d either gamble it all or spend it. Eventually I started cashing out to buy weed senior year of high school, my house became real popular real quick since I always magically produced $100 out of my asshole (in reality it was BTC) to buy booze/weed with. Had a great time that year but I’d have literal generational wealth if I’d accumulated and never sold or spent a thing.

>>22860486
You could literally tattoo the private key on your dick and it would be more secure

>>22860411
You should try getting high again, and replicating the scene in which you changed the password. Try to replicate the atmosphere and mood to the original setting in all the ways you can think of. Give that a few tries.

>>22854168
Well, I do these steps to protect my funds:

1. The biggest wallet that I use for liquidity and to hold my most important long term tokens is a ledger nano x. I can easily use this with metamask since the keys never leave the wallet and I have to confirm every transaction with the ledger.

2. I have like 3-4 other wallets (Trust wallet), that I keep on a spare phone and I use for buying/ selling shitcoins on Uniswap. I also use these wallets with metamask but I don't keep more than $3-4k on each one, so if one of them is hacked idgaf.

3. Soon I'll buy a chromebook that I'll use only for crypto, so I won't use any crypto apps on the pc I use for gaming, torrents and other shit

airlocked laptop is the safest way, who's to say that the private keys on hardware wallets haven't been logged?

>>22860562
>spent the last 3 years working from home making jack shit
>if I bought link or stocks or fucking anything I’d be rich

>>22860813
okay, heres an encrypted version of my private key - feel free to try to break it.

8z3T+60HOYHk8B2THRx0gOOVsMAoR0w+Bsx+BaTzyPzlgyIFFzNnkpg71i67FHY1QQuPuzcqao2pR+g2+BfqcHRRTFrUMTLnoPkmc39wxwI=

>>22854168
in future, use MyCrypto Desktop with an airgapped computer.

Hardware wallets keep getting mentioned, they have been hacked before. Would not recommend. DYOR.
Never ever store your seed phrase digitally anywhere. Ever. Never ever. Even if it's encrypted, it's still online.
A paper wallet with a long seed phrase is ideal, they are impossible to hack - finding a few places to hide a piece of paper shouldn't be hard.

OP did malwarebytes find anything on your computer? So you use MetaMask mobile as well? Did you run a scan there? That complicates things. You also mentioned that you're "infamous", that makes you a target, especially if you've ever mentioned cryptocurrency ever. Based on information you provide about yourself online, a skilled hacker can rob you.

Keep us up to date on what MetaMask finds.

>>22861398
How do you get a seed phrase offline?

>>22861480
use an airlocked laptop. one which cannot get online. transfer wallet software to that pc via usb, then create the keys offline, and never go online with that machine. there's no safer way, and all you need is like a $50 second hand laptop

Why would any average Joe or NpC invest in crypto when this sort of shit happens everyday.

>>22854168
ledger???????

>>22860940
I have similar security to you

6 hardware wallets, a laptop that stays air gapped 99% of the time unless i'm trading and has nothing downloaded on it but metamask and google chrome, a fire proof and water proof safe, and a glass bottle with my private keys burried in an undisclosed location (just in case of a fire)

I'm literally unhackable

>everyone taking this thread seriously
stop giving this fag attention

>>22861398
https://kb.myetherwallet.com/en/offline/using-mew-offline/

I'd recommend this if you have a large amount that you are sitting on. Not a bad idea buying a stack of ETH and Bitcoin and just holding as a retirement fund. When you retire, you better believe Bitcoin won't still be hovering around 10k.

If you want to dapp and day trade, MetaMask really is the ideal solution - I have multiple MetaMask accounts with multiple wallets. As for your situation, I'd feel incredibly unsafe using MetaMask again - not because of MetaMask but because there is a vulnerability that you're unaware of, hence I'd be afraid of doing anything online.

You need to change all of your passwords to something that is strong/unguessable, change router password, create a back up of your trusted files (docs/pictures/videos) and then run a clean install of Windows. I wouldn't use MetaMask mobile anymore.

>>22854168
stop making this thread you larping beggar faggot

>>22856852
There was a dude who had 45K Link tokens on Binance. He used a fake ID to open his account. When he had an issue with his account, he called up customer support. They locked his account.

45K Linkies, what would guarantee this man wealth for generations. All gone.

>>22862310
>fake ID
His own fault. They're pretty clear on that.

future of money kek

That's it. I'm going gambling

>>22862606
Have you considered sucking cocks to get your money back?

>>22862606

>>22861915
this is much worse than MyCrypto Desktop

Frens, I got a trezor recently and had issues setting up metamask with it. Now that I see this, should I skip metamask altogether and go to MEH? What are the alternatives here?

>>22861768
Forgot to mention, I also have my seeds stored offline in case there's a fire.

I keep them on pieces of aluminum sheet so they withstand the elements and they're also encrypted offline using a book cipher, so even if someone finds the seeds they can't decrypt them without that specific book.

>>22854168
>buying into the “not your keys not your crypto” meme instead of keeping it on an exchange spending billions of dollars to ensure its safety
Sorry anon but next time just keep your eth on Coinbase. You simply don’t have the funds nor the means to protect it.

>>22862992
What is the issue? there have been problems with metamask on chrome that don't happen on firefox

>>22854168
threads like this make me think that for 90% of normys in crypto, they should just keep it in an exchange

>>22863405
Not your keys not your crypto
*hacks exchange and steals everything *
Heh, nothing personal kucoin

>>22857232
>What is a fucking keylogger

>>22863405
this
Way happier with my funds on insured exchanges than falling for the whole all needs to be 100% decentralized ales it isn't real crypto narrative by the Boomers. And no, never ever going to buy a ledger or any other gimmicky not really more secure bullshit than a metamask browser extension

btw, OP never lost anything, he just recycled a thread from yesterday into a ledger shill thread mixed with a fearmongering thread and OP should burn in hell for this after being raped by a pack of feral Joggers

>>22854168
This is why I just keep my LINKs on coinbase.
Never have to worry about my retirement disappearing.

>>22864490
>implying coinbase is safe

>>22854168
Not your keys not your bitcoin