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Going off grid, having no mortgage or rent payment, while collecting a salary and investing. You can literally make it in a few years. The question is how long before other zoomers catch on and everyone starts building mortgage free cabins on their own paid for plot of land

>> No.22860342

>>22860320
>own paid for plot of land
>property taxes

>> No.22860346

The cabin yes. But dont forget property tax.

>> No.22860354

>even a small minority of zoomers socialized in a high tech world
>going off grid
I keked

>> No.22860353

>>22860320
Fuxking retard

>> No.22860373

>>22860346
property tax would be effectively nothing if you live on an acre in a rural area in a smaller home

>> No.22860382

>>22860320
they wont. very few people are willing to make the sacrifices necessary for debt free living in the modern world. Even if they're a 'financially responsible' normie, they'll still so brainwashed by the current culture that they'll get a mortage to live in the shittiest part of the city. Everyone else is renting because they 'cant afford a house' without the self awareness to know that they're throwing their money away. (no equity)

>> No.22860430

>>22860320
why the fuck would you do this? isnt it better to try and make more money than you can spend rather than cutting expenses.

>> No.22860464

>>22860430

>make more money than you can spend

no such thing.

>> No.22860467

>>22860430
I never said don't make less money. You should live a cheaply as possible while making as much money as you can. Going rural cabin life is the best way

>> No.22860622

>>22860373
If youre still working in the city it may seem like nothing. If youre trying to live off the land, its a fortune

>> No.22860633
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>>22860320
This is pretty much what I've concluded. I've already pretty much made it with crypto but looking back on the journey I realize we've all been fed boomer lies. Get into debt to go to college and waste your early 20s then somehow get an "entry level" job wage cucking in soul crushing job. Correct move is to not get into debt at all and lower expenses to almost nothing. Off grid cabin is one way to do it, or live in a van if you have to. Once your expenses are nothing you'll naturally find ways to add value for other people and make money, which you can then use to make more money. You'll literally regain your humanity via your survival instinct.

>> No.22860717

>>22860633
Its not boomer lies you retard they're probably less awakenedith than you. Its jewish lies

>> No.22860776

>>22860320
>Going off grid, having no mortgage or rent payment, while collecting a salary and investin

How does one get a salary when the nearest road is 8 miles away?

>> No.22860904

>>22860776
That's always the catch. Freelance remote work can be rough if you are not consistent

>> No.22860914

>>22860717
It is you cum bucket, boomers were the first generation where you could leave the family farm, walk up to a company with no experience and be hired the same day, work you way up the ranks staying at one company, support an entire young family and easily buy a big house in the suburbs that 10x in value when you retire. Those rules can't work low interest rates causing malinvestment into asset bubbles (instead small business), women doubling the work force, mass immigration of spics and niggers, regulations that 3-4x the cost of business. Sure it's da jooz with the cultural subversion and central banking but the boomers are the cunts that sold out to them.

>> No.22860960

>>22860776
>get your lazy ass up and out to that road you fucking retard

>> No.22860981

>>22860430
hmmm....BOTH would be ideal you fucking clown

>> No.22861149

>>22860430
Cutting expenses is better per $1. In order to increase net by a $1 wagecucking not only do you have to work for the $1 but also the income tax let's say 25%. So you have to work for $1.25 to get $1. But you much constantly maintain this which costs you in time, opportunity cost, mental health, physical health. All up it's probably more like $2 to get net $1. Whereas if you just drop your expenses you run to the finish line a lot quicker, especially if you invest what you saved.

>> No.22861164

>>22860320
sounds like a good setup for a horror story

>> No.22861313

>>22860633
What's the bucket for Anon, hmmmmmmm????????

>> No.22861433
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>>22861313
It's probably just a grey water sink for brushing his teeth.

>> No.22861524

>>22860320
Shitty internet connection and and too far away from any decent work. Only good if you're already retired. Do the smart thing and move to cambodia or live with ur parents till u made it.

>> No.22861526
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>>22861149
Imagine
>you have a wheelbarrow full of shiny rocks
>you're in a race where at the end you can have a lifetime supply of shiny rocks
>you can drop a bunch or all of them and get there faster, and/or get stronger legs
>what do you do?

>> No.22861560

>>22860717
This, think who lends, who promotes materialism, degeneracy, miscengenation etc. the boomers still haven't figured out who controls them.

>> No.22861565

>>22860430

It really depends on the effort required on either making more money or cutting expenses and their respective marginal returns, it always depends on the context.

>> No.22861587

>>22860717
This. We have all been robbed and stripped of our innocence by being involuntarily transformed into dopamine craving hedonists. We live lives of quiet desperation

>> No.22861603

>>22860776
You can still have a car and live in a rural area in a cabin. Im talking about not having a mortgage and not living in a city

>> No.22861616

>>22860320
Oh also, isnt living off grid illegal now?

>> No.22861631

Off grid checking in. I don’t do what OP is suggesting, kinda fucking retarded to live in the woods imo but to each there own. Definitely don’t buy into inflated housing market. Find a way to avoid neet life and 30yr mortgage while still making money. I do traveling construction for a niche company that pays for everything as long as I sell them my time on the road. I bank ~90% of my checks. Rest goes to baby bills like personal car insurance/cellphone bill. Food, hotels, gas, tools and vehicle paid for by company.

Most people don’t want to do it cause muh family. Do it while your single/young. Literally reverse college. I’m youngest dude on our team, most older guys want out. There’s room for new blood all the time cause high turnover. Not for everyone but definitely a way to break the system.

>> No.22861813

>>22860430
kys retard

>> No.22861832

>>22861616
I've heard it's a pain in the ass to do in the UK, and of course there's countries like North Korea and Venezuela where I think it's actually legally impossible. But it should be legal for most US counties and eurocuck countries. If you're truly far out of the city it is not only possible but expected. If you can't get power lines or water pipes to your land then you are automatically off grid.

>> No.22861843

>>22860320
Yeah just go off grid with your dog and fuck your dog. Very smart.

>> No.22861879

>>22860430
cutting expenses is easier for most people than boosting income.

>> No.22861991

>>22861631
I kinda did the same as you are suggesting. Graduated debt free from scholarships, cheap state school, and working 90+ hour weeks in the construction during the summer.

Got on with an oil company out of school. Work crazy hours, remote locations, and dedicate pretty much my entire life to it but they pay for everything. Throw 80% of my paycheck in crypto for 2 years and now I'm doing better than 99% of other people my age. I still haven't made it yet but I have to believe sacrificing your early 20s was worth it for me

>> No.22862076

>>22860320
Yeah, this is how dumb people think. Instead of spending your time and energy learning how to make a god damn fucking HOUSE by yourself, you could spend that time making money in your job that you're trained for and pay someone else who is an expert housemaker and who has experience and economy of scale to do it for you

It's like people don't understand the basic fucking idea of specialization and trade. Spending time on a thing you're bad at is the same as spending money inefficiently.

>> No.22862150

>>22860633
>>22860320

Yeah owning land, isn't really "off grid" ... even owning a van isn't to a degree...

>> No.22862231

>>22862076
The idea is that it isnt your permanent residence, you save up a lot so you can afford to buy one outright

>> No.22862259

>>22860320
Kek that mf is gonna freeze to death out there, does he even have central heating? Does he have mains water? How about electricity? Fiber broadband? A nearby hospital? Education? This mf gonna die.

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>>22860320
There's a guy who did that

>> No.22862362

>>22862259

What do you think that chopped wood is for dummy

>> No.22862369

>>22862150
Off grid doesn't mean you're born without a birth certificate into an uncontacted tribe in the amazon rain forest. If just means you don't use centralized utilities in a nigger infested city.

>>22862076
The cabin isn't him trying to upstage a professional builder you dumb cunt it's just a stepping stone.

>> No.22862487

>>22862334
moot?

also this whole argument is retarded, you people are basically saying to live in trailer houses to save money, except it's worse because you have to build the trailer house and there are no utilities.

I don't get why people can't find houes, there are tons of 150k houses where I live (midwest) that will only cost you something like $500 a month in mortgage payments, at 3% interest you are practically being paid to own a house, especially with the tax deductions on top.

>> No.22862521

>This is how you make it; by living like an 18th century peasant

>> No.22862543

>>22862076
holy shit your brain is smooth

>> No.22862577

>>22860320
>and investing
Invest in what?

>> No.22862701

Instead of going through all the inconveniences of going off grid, why not just live with one's parents while working full-time? This would enable one to invest all of his earnings due to having no expenses to speak of.

>> No.22862751

>>22860320
Lmao or you could do like me and buy a 225k 4 bedroom house in a popular coastal city and rent the rooms out for 600 dollarinos a month --> bring in $1800, mortgage, taxes, insurance are 1350, so even during the heat of the summer and power is high im pretty much living for free, and I travel for work so I am only around these undesirable rentcucks a few months a year

>> No.22862818

>>22860346
$100 a year lol

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22862826

>>22862543

The recent "smooth brain" meme is a misdirection meme. Why not use the insult "tiny brain" instead?

>> No.22863473

>>22862701
LMAO you fucking little bitch move out of your parents house. Time to be a man

>> No.22864022

> Oh also, isnt living off grid illegal now?

How the hell could it be illegal? What could gov even do about it?

Unless you live is some place like North Korea, Venezuela, USA or Cuba, what could the government even do to you if you have a patch of land registered to your name?

>> No.22864149

>>22862487
>moot?

hahaha holy fuck you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever post on 4chan jfc

>> No.22864183

>>22863473
Just because you probably have a bad relationship with your parents don’t be a dick to other people. It’s a good strategy also.

>> No.22864222

Planning on doing this (hopefully) in a few weeks if house is approved. Low overheads, just solid trading in the country.

>> No.22864255

>>22864149
desu young uncle Ted looks from far a bit like moot, but every twink looks basically the same from away

>> No.22864273

> in the wilderness
> no jobs
> property would be sold for nothing because no one wants to pay big bucks for a cabin in the woods
Even if you went full monk mode and never spent money outside of bare necessities, nothing about this builds enough equity to constitute "wealth" unless you're a poorfag doesn't know what wealth actually is.

>> No.22864413

>>22864273
wealth is home, water, food, social connections.
Money is wealth liquidity nothing more.

>> No.22864488

>>22860320
U can also just a boomer box. I live in a manufactured 3 bed 2 bath house in remote Arizona and the mortgage is $400 per month. My meager $1500 per month let’s me save almost 1k every month

>> No.22864562
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>>22860320
I can't go off-grid here in the UK. Someone WILL report your house and the government will come knocking with some big lads armed with guns and a bulldozer to knock down your cabin, something you might get to watch if you're not thrown in prison or a psych ward

I really REALLY hope my 30k pnk coins become worth a lot one day so I can escape this hell island

>> No.22864610

> I can't go off-grid here in the UK.

Explain it, anon.

If you are living oftg in your own patch of land, why could anybody "report" you?

>> No.22864692

>>22864610
you need planning permission to build a house/cabin/dwelling here in the UK. If you don't get planning permission then it will get knocked down. Also we're a small island with a tourist'y/busy countryside that has a fair amount of workers going around taking care of the countryside
so high chance my dwelling will get spotted and ppl here in the UK LOVE telling the government on you if they think what you are doing "isnt allwoed"

I WANT OUT

>> No.22864734

>>22864610
>>22864692
i forgot to add that even if you own the land to still need permission to build a house on it and you can only live on that land for a maximum of 30 days, say in a tent or something
i hate it here

>> No.22864813

>>22864692
It's not a house, its a portable trailer on bricks ready to move.

>> No.22864866

>>22864488
Yeah but boomer boxes deteriorate and lose value, better to get a cheap house.

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>>22862487

>> No.22865192

>>22862076
>expert housemaker
>mexicans

>> No.22865277

>>22864692
>ppl here in the UK LOVE telling the government on you if they think what you are doing "isnt allwoed"
Sounds like utah.

>I WANT OUT
hear hear

>> No.22865633

>>22864692
dont you britbong faggots get put in jail if you speak out against the government sanctioned mass immigration? your country is fucked

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>>22860320
>Zoomers
>giving up tolerable Internet speeds and modern conveniences

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When LINK hits $100 I'll have 500k. I'll take out 150k to buy a house then just live the rest of my life on welfare+interest. Just LOL at working.

>> No.22865998

>>22864734
Yeah, it's practically put my plan to move to the woods on hold. You can get a nice few acres for £30k but building is another matter.

>> No.22866603

>>22860320
What does he do for water? Toilet? Anyway to get electricity living like this? What if he needs immediate medical attention? Not hating, just curious.

>> No.22866799

>>22860320
You'd go to jail for this in Germany.

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>>22860320
Literally what I did. I had $134, off grid, flipped it to over 80x margin trading -filtered?-, then went all in on my own tokens. Fucking made it with a month to spare before the elections.

>> No.22867191

>>22865998
I moved from the UK to Canada post brexit for this very reason. Would highly recommend. I intend to buy land and build a great property that will become the family estate. I will move my immediate family in due time, carving out a patch on this earth for us. Something greater than a mid terraced house in a post industrial town.

>> No.22867273

>>22860430
The absolute state of /biz/

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>build an "off the grid" cabin shitbox
>make youtube vid and advertise yourself

>> No.22867634

There is hope for me yet

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>>22860320
>going off grid
>collecting a salary
Why do "people" act like this is practical advice and delude themselves into thinking that like 99% of healthy, sane men wouldn't do this in the first place if they could.

>> No.22867806

>>22860717
True.

>> No.22867830

>>22860633
>>22861433
decent command centers

>> No.22867909

>>22860342
I guess you better rent then or just leech off your parents. Yea that'll show em.

>> No.22867976

>>22862076
Lmao you're a retard

>> No.22868080

>>22861560
Ford, Carnegie, and Rockefeller Foundation? None of which are jewish?

>> No.22868207

>>22867191
Carry on anon, I’m listening... was it easy?

>> No.22868237

>>22861524
Why Cambodia?