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Not a price discussion, not a fud thread.

Pic related is the reputation.link reported LINK earned and spent on transaction fees by LINK nodes over the last 7 days.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this puts operating a LINK node at a net negative e.g. there is no money to be made given the enormous ETH costs. Or do node operators not pay the transaction fee costs?

Other things worth discussing: Amount secured has dipped from a peak of ~3.3B to now 2.5B. Most of that was drained from Synthetix. Though, since July still impressive gains have been made in the total value secured which looks like it's largely coming from Aave/yield farming.

Does the $2.5B secured require like-amount collateral? Anyone know how the collateral required to keep that amount secured works?

>> No.22678254

>>22678089
GUESS NOT THEN

>> No.22678294

Linkers are actually mentally ill. I remember a few weeks ago they were telling me they could live off their staking interest because they invested a few grand into digital tokens with no use case. Hilarious

>> No.22678348

>>22678089
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but this puts operating a LINK node at a net negative e.g. there is no money to be made given the enormous ETH costs. Or do node operators not pay the transaction fee costs?
Chances are, Chainlink (the team) is subsidizing the node operator's costs to deal with high gas costs until offchain executions come into play.

>> No.22678371

>>22678348
chances are you made this up

>> No.22678381

>>22678348
That's what I was thinking too. It's not like they're getting battered but there's no incentive to run a node if it costs money meaning until 2nd layer solutions come such as Arbitrum it's unlikely that very large contracts will start to be handled. If fee scaling can't be dealt with they'll need to move chains. Guess we should know by EOY either way.

>> No.22678394

>>22678089
why dude.. it's a meme that really does nothing interesting. if you didn't get rich off it already you won't. move on. fantom is next like it or not unless it totally breaks.

>> No.22678499

>>22678089
Congrats anon, you discovered reason of recent dumps. Ethereum fees will continue increasing due to Defi pyramids.

>> No.22678514

>>22678348
Source: my hopes and dreams

>> No.22678560

These threads are fucking stupid. It's like when Ford is trialling his first Model T and people are saying "I don't think I should buy Ford stock there's only one car, I don't see how the public could travel around in only one car".

It's a brand new network being built out from nothing and scaled extremely conservatively to avoid sybil attacks. Any metric now, or in the next 12 months, is meaningless bullshit. We're talking about automating global value exchange, who gives a shit about the metrics of its baby stages.

>> No.22678587

>>22678560
The Model T was the first line produced motor vehicle; the first of its kind. ChainLink is an ERC20 token made by a fat autist that exists solely to fetch price information. In short, your comparison falls flat and you are a massive retard that’s going to rope when Link hits $4.50 and crabs there forever.

>> No.22678607

>>22678587
I've been ignoring better fudders than you for 3 years and I've made a fuckton of money. Cope you miserable fuck.

>> No.22678697

>>22678089
Doesn't the nature of the link token give it native interoperability with the xDai chain?

Is there any gas solution in the works that can take advantage of that?

>> No.22678715

>>22678560
Mainnet has been live a year now

>> No.22678742

Thomas said recently that threshold signatures will be released within the year.

>> No.22678780

>>22678715
Exactly. Come back in 5 years when global derivatives are being run through Chainlink, then let's look at metrics.

>> No.22678872

>>22678089
Want a serious discussion? we went 200X ICO in 3 years. TWO HUNDRED TIMES. if you didn't sell that's on you. I'm gettin' 2017 vibes.

LOKI is all I will hold now.

>> No.22679069

>>22678254
cringe
get fucked linkers

>> No.22679188

>>22678560
This, i think it is still a waiting game

>> No.22679958

>>22678089
I think https://market.link/metrics puts things in a different, more detailed perspective. It also shows a different amount earned over the past 7 days which I believe to be more reliable, as it calculates from individual node operators. However I definitely think awards are propped up and/or subsidized right now to keep node operators profitable while we wait for a cheaper gas fee solution.

>> No.22680192

>>22678089
checking out some of the payments made in etherscan Chainlink increased payments to accommodate gas fee prices so that node operators were still in the green.
Arbitrum should scale ETH and uniswap and node operators will contribute to this network by fulfilling rollup requests and in return arbitrum gets access to the Chainlink network. Arbitrum has no token so it's all paid for with LINK.
>>22678742
Thomas did say this during the ama too but as always they never stick to specific timelines if they need to audit/debug
Right now though it's just a light mainnet handling price data but remember chainlink is designed to handle all types of data but they haven't built the infrastructure to handle this yet.
Price data can still allow for derivatives to function (futures, forwards, swaps, etc.)
Its strange that pmg bros haven't jumped at the opportunity to use the gold and silver price feeds for defi products

>> No.22680354

>>22678371
>>22678514
>>22678381
This is exactly what is happening. Sergey even announced it in a blog post last year.

>> No.22680401

Warned you faggots at $17. Feels great shorting this overvalued shitcoin lmao.

Gotta applaud for Sergey and that 2nd fag though who live in their >10M mansions and dump 500k LINK each week on you stupid plebs.

Fact is this shit is hilariously overvalued.

Also the cycle will repeat. Link will not do well at all when the actual bull run mania is here. It will be a shitty performer just like last time.

Stay poor holding link stinky fags haha

>> No.22680439

>>22680401
Post the trade? Can't?
Figured as much lmao

>> No.22680458

>>22678089
>this is how profitable LINK is
>but thanks to a garbage L1 solution it is no longer profitable.
The reason every ETH token isn't doing as well as it could be is because of ETH. LINK, RARI, PNK, etc. All of these coins are ruined because of fucking vitalik which is why there is a huge drive to kill off ETH.

>> No.22680507

>>22680401
cope more loser, im up 50x and never selling

>> No.22680547

>>22680507

50x? And you in from 2017? So bad lmao.

Imagine being this much of a loser. You must be the 110-120 typica linklet being outperformed by <90 IQ normies.

Stay poor fag you will never make it.

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22680623

Thomas said in the latest AMA the gas costs rising were causing a lot of trouble over at the chainlink labs treasury, the executive team had to make the decision to scale back their plans and as such the nodes will simply cease to operate until further notice and redundant personnel has been let go to recoup losses, with all focus from now on being redirected to developing the new website front-end, since they fired the main artistic designer Thomas has been tasked with the newer designs too but he has to learn php from scratch so that means he won't be able to finish staking contracts any time soon, it's all outlined in the github repos.

>> No.22680714

>>22680623
>03

Quality shitpost

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>>22680623
dude if Thomas didn't tell you this in slack it's a larp
>>22680547
turn on trip

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22680729

>>22680547
>up 50x
>stay poor

>> No.22680755

>>22680729

See you stinky linkies at $7 range soon <3.

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22680768

>>22680755
see you there bro

>> No.22680777

>>22680755
You pay closer attention to Chainlink price than I do, and I am all in.
Kinda like worrying about the mental health of someone else's gf lmao.

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>>22680777
checker checked

>> No.22680854

>>22678089
Imagine still holding anything over a $50M cap in this market.

Nectar is all you should be looking at.

>> No.22680865

>>22678089
>total earned: 33k
>total fees: 1k

>"guyze nodes are paying more fees than they earn"

Are you ok anon?

>> No.22680873

Ask yourself this, why are the fudders so desperately and putting so much effort for you to sell? If they are trying to give genuine advice why are they calling you an idiot and pretend to laugh at you?
These assholes just want the price to go down to get more, if they had really sold they wouldn't be on these threads at all.

>> No.22680886

>>22678089
>Does the $2.5B secured require like-amount collateral?
Not necessarily.
Collateral will likely be a portion of the actual contract amount.

But the total amount secured does reflect the total value supported by the network.

>> No.22680910

>>22678587
>The Model T was the first line produced motor vehicle; the first of its kind.
Just like Chainlink is the first decentralized oracle network, the first of its kind.

>ChainLink is an ERC20 token
And the Model T is just a four-wheeled vehicle.

>> No.22680965

>>22680401
aapako $ 17 par aagajanee karane kee chetaavanee dee. is atipravaahit shitchoin laamo kee kamee mahasoos hotee hai.

sergeee ke lie taaliyaan bajaana aur vah doosara kohara, jo unake> 10 em havelee mein rahate hain aur har haphte 500k link ko bevakooph banaate hain.

tathy yah hai ki yah praphullit karane vaala hai.

saath hee chakr bhee doharaega. jab vaastavik bail ran unmaad yahaan hai to link bilkul bhee achchha nahin karega. yah pichhalee baar kee tarah hee ek chamakadaar kalaakaar hoga.

bechaaree holding link badaboodaar haig haaha rahen

>> No.22681049

Where did all those ppl who say having trans fees were good and is a sign of high demand usage. Spoiler alert, it fkn means the network is shit. L1 with 0 fees wouldve been the simplest answer to all these use case problems.

>> No.22681673

down to $3, and then slowly back up

>> No.22682002

>>22680777
All in checked.

>> No.22682069

>>22678089
Node operators are incentivized until threshold signatures are working. Which cuts the price for node operators by 90%

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22682086

>>22678514
Ahhhh... Why would Sirgay betray weekly? WEEKLY. 500K dumps WEEKLY. Rn Link is leaking all over the place, it isn't sustainable. This isn't necessarily something I'd stake my hopes and dreams on. If this wasn't the case, why would node operators take on this capital venture? When the math directly points to bankruptcy?

>> No.22682088

>>22682069
This is literally in the white paper btw. Good to know you want to have a serious conversation without doing literally any research.

>> No.22682132

>>22678089
FSW is releasing in 2 weeks. This will relieve fees on the eth network.

>> No.22682214

>>22678607
nice, how much did you make today?

>> No.22682460

>>22680865
33k LINK vs 1k ETH you absolute brainlet

>> No.22682597

>>22682214
My stack fluctuates 6 figures from an $8k initial. COPE.

>> No.22682631

>>22678371
Rory claimed this was the case after the smartcon attack. But try harder