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22651182 No.22651182 [Reply] [Original]

Right now, most crypto is traded to and from Centralised Exchanges like Binance. To buy and sell on these exchanges, you have to send your crypto wallets on that exchange. That means the exchanges have your private keys, and they have control over your funds. When you use a centralised exchange, you are no longer in control of your assets, and depend on the trustworthiness of middlemen. We have in the past of course seen infamous exit scams by centralised exchanges like Mt. Gox.

The alternative? Decentralised Exchanges. DEX's have no central authority and most importantly, your private keys(your crypto) never leavesYOUR possession and are never in anyone else's possession. So you can trade peer-to-peer without any of the drawbacks of Centralised Exchanges.

The problem is that this technology has not been perfected yet, and the DEX's that we have available to us now are not providing cheap, private, quick trading on a decentralised medium because of their technological inadequacies. Take Uniswap for example. This DEX accounts for over 60% of all DEX volume and facilitates trading of ERC-20 tokens, over the Ethereum blockchain. The problem? Because of the huge amount of transaction that are occurring over the Ethereum network, this has lead to congestion(too many transaction for the network to handle at one time) so the fees have increased dramatically. Another big problem? It's only for Ethereum. You cant for example, Buy LINK with BTC. You must use ETH.

>> No.22651190

>>22651182
The solution? Layer 2 protocols. These are layers built ON TOP of existing blockchains, that are designed to solve the transaction and scaling difficulties that crypto as a whole is facing today(and ultimately stopping mass adoption) The developers at Stakenet have seen the big picture, and have decided to implement the lightning network(a layer 2 protocol) into its DEX from the ground up. This will facilitate the functionalities of a DEX without any of the drawbacks of the CEX's and the DEX's we have today.

Heres someone much more qualified than me, Andreas Antonopoulos, to explain this

https://streamable.com/kzpimj

'Once we have efficient, well designed DEX's on layer 2, there wont even be any DEX's on layer 1'

>> No.22651413
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22651413

DEX: $1+
RAIDEN: $10+
HYDRA: $100+

>> No.22651437

Good reads
>Whitepaper
https://stakenet.io/Stakenet_Whitepaper.pdf
>Quick rundown
https://medium.com/stakenet/multi-currency-wallet-and-lightning-swaps-stakenet-solution-7d0dafe99105
>X9's contributions to LTC
https://medium.com/stakenet/litecoin-foundation-and-x9-developers-announce-collaboration-510ca985b6
>Exertive Proof of Stake
https://medium.com/stakenet/exertive-proof-of-stake-epos-4a999807f9e4
>Great write-up of Cross Chain Proof of Stake (i.e. stake XSN, receive BTC)
https://medium.com/stakenet/posw-weekly-ccpos-cross-chain-proof-of-stake-de1ac87055cd
>The Cypherpunk Standard of Banking
https://medium.com/altcoin-magazine/the-cypherpunk-standard-of-banking-88f84a834180
>Most recent Dev Update
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-dev-update-july-12-2020-72cac6050377
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-ledger-update-july-20-2020-a446e7f7af4

Further reads
https://medium.com/stakenet

>> No.22651441

>>22651182
WOW ANOTHER SCAM

BASED JANNIES I KNOW YOURE UP CLEAN IT UP

>> No.22651485

>>22651441
not an argument, thank you for the bump

>> No.22652039
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>> No.22652135

>>22651413
Can you give a short rundown on what Raiden and Hydra are?

>> No.22652362

>>22652135
Raiden is a layer 2 protocol similar to Lightning Network.

It is compatible with any token that is drawing consensus with the Eth blockchain and is compatible with ERC-20 standards.

Right now they're heavily partnered with Stakenet in developing cross-chain interoperability, and porting of the features and capabilities of their layer 2 solution to multiple OSes.

more info:
https://raiden.network/101.html

>> No.22652577

Went all in on can earlier, what's make it stack you guys reckon?

>> No.22652645

Yeah there's also Loopring which is endorsed by Vitalik himself which apparently gives it clout

https://loopring.io/trade/LRC-USDT

now wot

>> No.22652673

>>22652577
We've said for a while that a single MN is a make it stack.
It's currently just a few thoudsand.
The massive ROI from Hydra and Block Rewards will easily allow you to make twice a median salary and there's a great chance you'll make somewhere close to a million during altseason, especially if you have more than one.

>> No.22652918

>>22652577
>suicide
1 MN
>make it
10 MN

>> No.22652975
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>>22652645
loopring is ERC20 only and doesnt provide the overall big picture solution that Stakenet is building

>>22652577
>>22652918
1MN is enough to make it.

this is going to be THE decentralised exchange.

>> No.22653043

Currently at 7000 and still buying. Used the Dex a few time and works nice. Hopefully hit a masternode soon.

>> No.22653069

Let me guess Americans can't buy this

>> No.22653070

Layer two solutions are gay, still bought a MN because of XSN-chan.

>> No.22653093

>>22653069
Can buy straight from the Dex or livecoin

>> No.22653109

>>22653093
I checked that but it says "coming soon"

https://stakenet.io/xsn/buy-xsn/

where even is the dex itself? I'm apparently too retarded to find it

>> No.22653252

>>22653109
https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-dex-open-beta-dd5c78175608

There is links in here, and a guide linked down bottom too. Keep in mind it's still in beta, but I haven't had any problems.

>> No.22653285

>>22653070
well when you come up with a better alternative we'll all invest. until then, strap in.

>> No.22653476
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How much longer till this shit show is a dollar? I'm ready to retire and live off block rewards. Just need $800/wk. Maybe a little less since they fucked up the wallet update and a good 900 nodes were taken down due to a bug.

>> No.22653515

When moon?

>> No.22653824
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>>22653476
>>22653515
Chart is looking very healthy and the price has been consolidating at this level for a while now with strong support. I would say we are still in the stealth accumulation phase and will slowly climb up to one dollar as updates are rolled out, we head towards the public DEX and the overall market continues to climb.

>> No.22653835

Too many fucking whales having ridiculously large bags, not buying into this to get dumped on.

>> No.22653861

>>22653824
When $1?

>> No.22653873

>>22653835
atleast it means they will pump it, then dump. Just sell on the pump

>> No.22653931

>>22653835
I guess masternode rewards would help discourage whales dumping?

>> No.22653947

>>22653835
>Too many fucking whales having ridiculously large bags

what asset are you referring too? because this applies to any of them worth having.

>> No.22654197

>>22653947
https://xsnexplorer.io/
The top 100 richest addresses hold 100k-2M of XSN, that’s an absurd amount. Imagine XSN at 1$, that’s $100k up to $2M we’re talking about.

>> No.22654258

>>22654197
>Imagine XSN at 1$, that’s $100k up to $2M we’re talking about.

you realise that is literally nothing right? in terms of volume?

look at the top 100 holders of any successful coin/stock and tell me what the total volume would be.

>> No.22654350

I just got my $2300 from uni.
Should I buy XSN?
Is this seriously the right thing to do?
I want to make it boys and I believe that there are true gems on this godforsaken board.
I’m such a newfag I have to learn how to buy it and store it safely and all that nevermind even getting into staking and all of that fuss.
Help a retard out, plox

>> No.22654390

>>22654350
Newish fag too, put my uni into stakenet and put it in the cloud wallet to stake

>> No.22654475

>>22654390
Can I buy stakenet/xsn on uniswap and send it to my coinbase wallet via metamask?

>> No.22654501
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>>22654350
>>22654390
>>22654475
here you go.

most important thing is to encrypt your core wallet and keep backups.

>> No.22654629

>>22654475
Coinbase wallet doesn't support it, yet. Maybe never will since they're a direct competitor.

If you plan to keep it on the cloud that's fine but remember that's like keeping it on a centralized exchange in terms of if anything would happen to them.

>> No.22654802

>>22654501
Can also buy from Dex
https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-dex-open-beta-dd5c78175608

>> No.22655159

>>22654629
Coinbase, Binance etc will never support Stakenet. It is the only thing that is a serious threat to the current paradigm right now.

>> No.22655582

>>22655159
How come? They support UNI don’t they?

>> No.22655703

>>22655159
Delusional. DEX thats 2 years away from being remotely user friendly. So shitty that even the shills dont use it

>> No.22655728

I'm warming up to this, but who do they expect to open a channel every time they want to trade?

>> No.22655874

>>22655703
Not user friendly? Are you a fucking retard? The UI is smooth as fuck

>>22655728
You won't have to. It will be all under the hood

>> No.22655911

>>22655874
So they're just going to have a 1-time fee to trade per week or something? Or is there some percentage fee associated with every trade?

>> No.22655920

>>22655911
You can keep the channels open dude....

>> No.22655958

>>22655911
checked based and cope. seething no stakers 3 years dyor read the whitepaper pilled. gmi

>> No.22655970
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>>22655582
They support UNI because they want in on the ponzi pump and dump action.

>>22655703
>DEX thats 2 years away from being remotely user friendly.

...right

>> No.22655973

>>22655911
You will have to have a channel open for every trade, but not open a channel for every trade. He explained it wrong. You can choose to rent more time for your channel, or not. For people who hate trading and have no interest in buying and selling or using a dex they are making a uniswap mode where you click swap and it charges you extra automatically and you have no control over the trades. Sounds like a useless 'feature' to me but everyone in the discord is excited about it for some reason.

>> No.22656004

>>22655874
Where's the volume???
>>22655970
Kek its always the same screenshot, none of you use this shit

>> No.22656030

>>22655970
>>22655973
>>22656004
checked based and stake pilled. don't ask questions just buy. gmi cz on suicide watch no stakers seething so hard rn. gonna be so mad in a year when it's $1

>> No.22656036

>>22656004
reset your IP and try again anon, maybe try post about the 'exploit'

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>>22656004
>>22656030
Seeeeeethe, seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeethe. Your futile seething fuels my boner.

>> No.22656082

>>22656036
>>22656045
checked and based. gmi lads cz on suicide watch no stakers coping so hard rn

>> No.22656338

Does it have more than $100 volume yet?

>> No.22656399

>>22656030
>>22656036
>>22656082
>revolutionary new paradigm 100x CEX killer
>but I still wont use the beta since its actually trash and I dont care about contributing to the product
Stakenet is the new Skycoin, an old shitcoin that stayed around long enough to appear legitimate. Soon as stakenet gets any real liquidity the whales will dump this into oblivion. For now I guess you can enjoy swing trading on the biz tards that occasionally fall for this useless garbage

>> No.22656425

>>22651182
Stakenet is NOT cryptocurrency retard.
Newfags won't understand this post

>> No.22656457

>>22656399
not an argument

>>22656425
>Stakenet is NOT cryptocurrency retard.

haha it kinda is though

commit suicide

>> No.22656499

>>22656457
>haha it kinda is though
You're clearly a Newfag that doesn't know what cryptocurrency is.

Even if I show what cryptocurrency is you'll argue as you're an arrogant cunt.

Daily reminder '17+ fags opinions are worthless.

>> No.22656593

>>22656499
no one gives a shit how long you've been on this shithole website you fucking loser, lmao. We're here to make money and unless you can contribute, get fucked

>> No.22656616

>>22656499
Yikes

>> No.22656711

>>22656593
>>22656616
>Go to google
>Type 'cryptocurrency definition'

Find out what you clearly don't know.
I'll wait for your arrogant rebuttal

You newfags don't even know/understand the '15 ruling that regulates cryptocurrency. You are arrogant of your own ignorance.

Inb4 MUH that's not the correct definition.
Or MUH it's cryptographicly secured.

You have no clue what you've bought

>> No.22656748

>>22656711
you should probably inform coinmarketcap, they'll get it de listed for you lmao

>> No.22656770
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22656770

>>22656711
>FUD has been so unsuccessful they are now trying to claim XSN isn't even a crypto

>> No.22656789

>>22656748
It's called (((coin)))marketcap You fucking retard.
>>22656770
Arrogant response confirmed

>> No.22656828

>>22656789
you are the one who is being arrogant in some totally arbitrary attempt to discredit XSN with some bullshit i have never heard of in my years on this shithole(and no, unlike you, I am not impressed by spending time on an internet forum)

you've made some ridiculous claim with no real argument and expect people to take you seriously? fuck off

>> No.22656835

>>22656770
I actually held this shitcoin for years faggot. I sold the pump, thanks for the money bag holder.

This is not cryptocurrency PoS is not cryptocurrency faggot.

Stay arrogant, neither of you asked about the '15 ruling. Keep acting as your own gatekeeper
>>22656828
See about arrogant retard

>> No.22656861

>>22656499
incel: the post.

>> No.22656862

>>22656835
>about
Above

>> No.22656873

>>22656338
>U
>>22656399
>>22656425
>>22656457
>>22656499
>>22656593
>>22656616
>>22656711
>>22656748
>>22656770
>>22656789
>>22656828
checked based and stake pilled. cz on suicide watch. fudders btfo. seething so had rn. coping so bad

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>>22656499
>Stakenet is NOT cryptocurrency retard.
The retarded fudders are reaching new levels of cope previously unheard of. Is this some next level semantics bullshit about Stakenet being a network and XSN being the actual cryptocurrency used in said network?

>> No.22657060

>>22656967
fucking checked and based. so much cope from fudders. cz on suicide watch. uniswap liquidity go succcc

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>>22657060
Das rite muh pussyboi, we be goin' to space n shiet.

>> No.22657180

>>22657104
based and check pilled. fudders on suicide watch cz coping

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>>22651182
Solution below next question...

>> No.22657320

>Concern fudding
>unironic shill fud
>checking posts with no digits
Kill your selves all of you.

>> No.22657335

>>22657252
>>22657320
checked. cope. seethe harder pajeet. no stakers on suicide watch

>> No.22657340

>>22657335
Kill yourself fudder.

>> No.22657381

>>22657340
fucking checked and based. fudders btfo

>> No.22657477

>>22656835
Just have a look at the level of Larping on display here. This is how cringe the Stakenet fuders are.

This really is the biggest bull signal you can get. When someone who is this much of a faggot dedicates their life to FUDing your investment you know you're on to something.