/biz/ - Business & Finance

Nice blog take the 1488 pill

>>22401154
Dude. I’m 30, my life has felt that fucked since I graduated in the first recession in 2008

>>22401154
The working poor are drunks without plans

The successful are professional wage labor who got with the program and did literally everything right

The real alphas did everything right from the get go and played the system to get what they wanted out of it

My best friends have overdosed

>>22401184
unironically this^. just realize that it's all going to end in blood and destruction, and get ready to have some fun.

>>22401230
Elaborate, Vaguestradamus

>>22401221
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. Do you know what caused them to OD?
I have some friends who are into some dumb shit right now and I don't know if losing them would make this shit show any better.

>>22401230
Based.

>>22401184
This
>>22401221
Soon brothers, very soon

>>22401204
These "routs" in the markets sure are getting worse, aren't they? Obviously the government gas lights us.
Trust your guts and intuition, anons.
Shit's fucked from here to hell and high water.
We need to utilize this thread to build a bullet proof portfolio to weather this fucking shit storm.
How would we even buy land in a hyperinflation scenario?

I really wish we could make some fucking "/biz/ approved autist financial survival guide"

Fuck me in the peepee this shit sucks

It's crazy that my brothers and all of my friends are in their 30's now and nobody has kids. this generation is fucked

>>22401154
It's always been this way you are just getting older and have become more aware of it. You have transcended the self awareness that you develop as a teen into social awareness of an adult.

This current system is severely overvalued.
I believe that the market is going to crash again.
I don't think that there is any saving it without just fucking what's left of the dollar in regard to purchasing power.
Get your anuses ready, lads. The hard times haven't even started yet.
This is a short squeeze between the boys and men.
Try to stay stronk, frens.

>>22401154
Were becoming socialist

>>22401330
That's really sad to hear. This girl I know really wants a family but is very fearful of the cost of raising them in an uncertain world. I believe we all live life in fear. Maybe we'd be more fulfilled if we all just took a leap of faith into dating that right person or committing a little longer to each other
>>22401340
I would imagine so, but this is not sustainable. Eventually the Dollar is going to go to 0 and we're all going to collectively lose our fucking minds over it as we built a terrible society that worships money.
I just can't seem to understand why people are so willing to get bent. What will it take? A $1,000 six pack? $20,000 pound of beef???

>>22401154
Gen X here.
Even trades are fucked now.
In the late 90's to 2007 i was earning £49 per hour and it was $2 to £1- So $98 per hour as a plumber for a company and was lazy as fuck.
Crazy PP
Would be lucky to get $20 now, can make about $40 ph on private jobs.
The party is over.
Really is...

>>22401357
Fucking how is socialism even going to be implemented in the United States? I just can't see some dude in Wyoming submitting to faggots in DC or some guys in Maine accepting it either.
This country is too large. We are the exception.

>>22401357
They had some Jew fund manager on Bloomberg saying he predicted decades of stagnation with little growth and that the response would be for America to become more like Europe or Canada.

For the love of all that is righteous and good, let the Americans keep their Constitutional rights no matter what happens to their economic system. Western Europe is... hard to watch.

>>22401265
One was a manlet from the projects who lived with me growing up. He died almost a decade after I moved away, after coming out of rehab and ODing on dope.

One was a fierce Italian-Dominican with a highly reactive temperament (he got in a machete standoff with the SWAT team and was said to have stabbed some thug in New Haven). He overdosed on some pills he had on hand, as he was a dealer himself. His mother and baby mama had been fighting with him that night because they wanted him to get a real job, despite all the money he was making. He did not wake up, leaving behind year-old twins.

Idk those gold fags make more sense when you look at the amount of "wealth" people think are worth.
They sure do have plenty of starving billionaires in Venezuela right now.
Fuck, I need a cigarette

>>22401401
It's going to take a world conflict/strife to crash the dollar. Last I saw the dollar was 70% of the worlds foreign reserve currencies, so it shouldn't be thought of as simply a currency for a single country.

>>22401351
When the system collapses the stupid majority will want to blame the inflation on someone and they will blame whites. I'm heading to my bunker.

>>22401495
what are some predictions for a hypothetical dollar crash?

>>22401518
Saudi arabia loses most of their oil reserves or china/russia creates green energy that's cheaper than oil. Neither is likely. We will become like Japan unless we open the boarders.

>>22401450
Damn, that's just tragic.
I'm gonna try and help my friends but I'm just getting ready for the shoe to drop if it does.

>>22401436
Are you a retard? Modern socialist democracies aren't Cuba during the cold War. It's literally just going to be increased taxes in exchange for social services. That's literally it.

>>22401154

we should already be at the tipping point but the ruling class is successfully keeping us divided up with race issues so that we don't unite to do anything about it and just fight amongst ourselves like animals while they laugh. everybody in washington needs to die, in minecraft. there's no other way out. then, bezos, gates, and every billionaire on down the line gets the bullet. or we can all just accept we have no future and keep larping as ss troops and red army and act like we're reenacting ww2

>>22401518
Dude its midnight and I can't really see the problem in pic related. It's pointing out that money is made out of nothing or something right? Or am I missing something more important?

>>22401549
Wow, your ID is BIZ
Congrats, you're king of the board for a day

>>22401563
Yes, but the value of said fiat currency is diminishing so why would the government tax unbacked debt notes to pay off an insurmountable debt that is added to without regard for the future?
Just the entire concept of MMT makes my fucking brain hurt. It ain't right.

>>22401563
No. Lobbiests will make loopholes for the rich like in the 60's. You can't take the money away from the rich. As a country we have never taken more than 17% of total income to taxes even with a 90% tax rate. If you go after the rich they either pay off politicians or leave to a country that won't tax them. The only way to fix inequality is to make everyone poor. Think about it. If everyone had the same net worth we'd all be poor. Crypto Jew here. The rich always win. Don't like it but it's just the way it is.

>>22401600
Higher taxes = less supply = less debt

You can unironclly thank trump for this shit show of fiat currencies while your stock portfolio moons, not like it was backed by anything in the first place but there was a lot less supply

Also this is why the othet anon is saying we're reenacting ww2 - devaluing of currency drives a wedge between rich and poor

>>22401666
>Nice trips, you really are a crypto jew
I was responding to another anon who posted some autistic shit please check againe

>>22401154
everything is fukt
What do we do?
Ill continue to drown myself in weed and booze every minute im not on the clock until i or one of you faggots figures it out
FML

I'm 38 and have never 'made it'. Though thus far my life has been absolutely crazy and I got a million stories out of it so far. Money is a poor substitute for life. If you have food, a roof, a car, a partner you have actually made it. That is a standard of living already much of the world dreams of, and far higher than your ancestors ever had. You can't outrun stress, or death, so enjoy the small things.

>>22401563
I know this is /biz/ and that the system you described is socialdemocracy (even to some a "social-market economy") or something like that.
Socialism as socialism is fighting for the workers to get the factories,etc,etc,etc.
But as we know, the only country that does purely that is NK, and they even are very flexible in that sense.
So meh, AOC is a mild socialdemocrat, US citizens have internilized too much the red scare, even for their own detriment.

>>22401495
Except Europoors chinks and ruskies iran blah blah are all trying to switch to something else.
The dollar won't be reserve for long.
Everyone knows how much the fed is printing and no one wants to be left holding the bag.

>>22401154
wait til the election smoothbrain. shit is just getting started. you're about to see some shit

>>22401357
4 trillion printed without a blink. Wake up sheeple. Market is propped ip. Global money supply is a lie. Were in full government manipulation zone

we need to return to natsoc

there is no other way

>>22401304
The worst part about is my boomer parents gaslighting me this whole decade. That’s why I can’t talk to them anymore. And I have no friends either, all my friends either went crazy, did drugs, or killer themselves.

It ain't just the monetary system that's fucked. I'm personally avoiding relationships completely cuz I watched too many friends and family get fucked over in child support and divorce settlements.

Every little detail of our system is designed to make you miserable and encourage predatory behavior or just encourages irresponsibility.

>>22401498
>>22401569

>>22401154
that's quantitative easing for ya. Everything slowly gets more expensive compared to your purchasing power instead of having a full on depression that takes out everyone. The lesser of two evils

>>22401908
This, or any system that places our people and the evolution and self determinism of our people as the highest ideals. National socialism is the best though and would be preferred.

We're seeing the death throws of the middle class, get ready to get even poorer while the rich get richer. I don't even want to be rich I just want a house and family

We're at a point where there will be no middle class anymore. Just rich and poor. If you aren't ready to reach out and take what you want then I can promise you that things at the bottom won't be very nice.

youre all a bunch of whiny faggots, have you not watched a single Trump rally? America is doing better than ever and he have the strongest economy of all time, everyone in this thread complaining is a fucking lowlife do nothing beggar and a disgrace to your forefathers. Job numbers and stock market growth have literally never been better, faggots. Get a fucking job.

>>22401304
>how would you buy land in a hyperinflation scenario
Easy, take a loan, and let it inflate away.

Right now there is only a very small chance of hyperinflation

>>22402103
10/10 topbait

would take again

>>22402103
>>22402103
Imagine being this out of touch with reality. I'm voting for Trump but let's try to be realistic here man, we have roving bands of communists on the streets burning shit down, rampant tech censorship, massive numbers of businesses bending the knee to the communists.

The fucking CDC employees are protesting to get "racism" classified as a public health crisis for fuck sake.

The Coronavirus was intentionally mishandled. The US national debt has gone BEYOND spiraling out of control now to try to deal with the mismanagement of Coronavirus.

Our entire culture has been subverted by lunatics. Divorce and being a single parent is considered glorified now. If you're collecting child support and making out like a bandit in a divorce settlement, people are praising you for how independent and strong you are.

Any growth you see now is just a calm before the storm man.

I agree that the economy was rebounding BEFORE coronavirus, but after coronavirus holy fucking shit... the mismanagement everywhere just shattered it all. I think what we are going to see soon will make the 2008 housing market crash laughable.

>>22401154

Show me your friends and I show you your future.

Think about this anon..

>>22401255
>Vaguestradamus
kek'd

>>22402184
>>22402235
you sound like fucking libtards blaming the system instead of taking responsibility for your lives. People are unsuccessfully and unhappy because they didn't work hard enough and just want handouts. Die in the street for all I care, America has never been better.

>>22401154
How could I protect myself against a dollar crash. Buy Gold?

The situation is rough, will you make it or are you a pussy? Your actions will speak louder than any words.

>>22402235
Those roving bands of commies are getting organized and becoming more militant everyday. Here in Portland we're seeing these fucks recruiting and training new people daily. We also think they're starting fires and becoming more like terrorists then protesters.

>>22402276
10/10 topbait

would take again

>>22401154
>he cares about what the plebs are doing
Focus on yourself faggot. Whores gonna whore and poors gonna poor.

>>22401154
Probably the case in Western countries and that’s exactly what will cause it’s decline.

>>22401154
Arming yourself will instantly replace your dread of the collapse with excitement for the collapse. It's our chance to start over.

>>22401966
>get ready to get even poorer while the rich get richer
nigger you can make a robinhood account right now and buy the same things rich people are buying

>>22401498
Nah, they'll blame jews like last time

>>22402405
You'll be disappointed when you realise there's no SHTF moment and collapse is just things getting progressively shittier.

>>22402331
Silver shall outperform, my friend.

>>22402530
Don't be so sure. Study history and you'll see that things take a lot longer to go hot than most people remember.
Everyone likes to point to the American Revolution as a great example, but people forget that there was a good 15-20 years of the colonists trying to forestall an actual war and peacefully negotiate/prevent having their rights gradually stripped away before they finally said "fuck it. shit's on now"

>>22401154
Back to /pol/

>>22402490
White racism rising while incidents of antisemitism are falling. Soon whites will be a wealthy minority as white racism is normalized. Whites are becoming known as the racist colonizers who stole wealth and gentrified minorities out of their neighborhoods. Whites are being blamed for being wealthy the same way the jews were in nazi germany and throughout history. If the Jews arw behind this it's obviously payback for the holocaust.
https://trib.al/aP0LBLG

Over 50% of adults under 30 are now living at home, greater than the great depression. Every sector including both state and corporate sectors are in massive debt bubbles. The most desperate in the country are directly attacking private property rights. This is something the /pol/fags continuously miss because they are blinded by the psuedo-science of race realism. Just as the Russians were before the Japanese utterly thrashed them to the shock of every European nation at the Battle of Tsushima in 1905.

Consider something dear anons. There is much surface level rhetoric about why and how the Arab Spring happened. What the rhetoric won't tell you is that it coincided with supply-chain break down in the food supply across much of North Africa due to the 2008 financial crisis. Now, consider that black communities have been getting utterly merced by the the prison industrial complex and the cops for generations. Why are they rioting so much now? (Not to detract from white deaths by cop. More white people are killed and enslaved by the prison industrial complex every year but the statistics are higher proportionally for black communities and that is worth notice. No one should face these conditions though, including all ethnic groups)

>>22403152
Part 2

The media refuses to mention what these riots mean. Yes, they are attacking the police as an institution. Yes, they are challenging institutional racism. And yes, though it goes undiscussed in the controlled rhetoric, they are targeting private property. Now, what does that sound like? Socialist revolution. It sounds like socialist revolution. The revolution isn't here mind you. These are the embers falling just as they did in North Africa. If the people cannot eat they will cut off the kings head, it's inevitable. A state without consent of the governed is no state. The question is can the oligarchs in power control this unrest and ease conditions enough to prevent true revolution in the coming decades as oppose to the minor inssurectionary acts we see now? Can they prevent a modern 1905 of Russia in 2042 in America? Or a 1917 in the 2050? This feels so scary to Americans because it has been generations since the comfortable in our society have felt true hardship. We of the middle class, which comprises much of this board have been pampered. Most of us are not ready for this reality before us.

>>22403152
My parents always make me feel like a loser for being 26 and at home still. Now I am in the majority ti back me up

>>22403132
Imagine getting revenge against people who had nothing to do with

>>22403152

But you know you can't blame an entire race of people for these problems. The prison industrial complex is a fucking monstrous issue, I've often talked about it with friends before how the profiting and privatization of our prisons incentivizes law enforcement to escalate and find or create reasons to arrest people.

It's also worth noting that big money FROM the oligarchs are going into funding these groups that are going around rioting. They're being manipulated and played. Their message go unheard the more violent they become.

>>22403167

Not even just being able to eat or not. Tax dollars are literally going to a useless government who won't even protect us from violent mobs. I gotta pay money for tax software to log my crypto then pay further money for tax software to file my taxes, maybe even buy into audit protection.

Then on top of that, 15% or higher of my income is going to these criminals who aren't doing anything to protect us or provide a fair system. Paying the oligarchs so they can further their own agendas while I get 20+ years in prison if I don't pay the taxes.

But there's so much shit that adds up to the situation we're in now, all the way down to the basic family system and education. It's too much to discuss here.

>>22403268

Same in my case, they just don't understand todays world and are so out of touch. And I know of all my friends and acquaintances., I would say 90% lives at home, 8% rents an appartment and only 1 dude I know has a house.

>>22403268
right there with ya bud. I'm stuck in bumfuck appalachia myself. No jobs, no scholorship or affirmitive action in sight.

>>22403167
I should add part 3. I'm not a socialist. The two things the left gets right are daring to actually look forward. As in they don't buy into the who end of history capitalism forever postmodernist nonsense. Which is ahistorical in nature, something will follow capitalism just as capitalism followed feudalism. The second thing is that the left actually understands that cooperation is more beneficial then selfishness and that good for all is good for one. I have to sleep so no great elaboration there other than that if you get cancer and die it's probably because the guy who would have cured it was stuck manning a fruit stand in bumfuckistan his whole life through no fault of his own.

Anywho, the left fails in terms of organization and effectiveness outside of a few choice examples like the Mondragon Corporation in the Basque country. (Which would expand across the world eventually considering it's magnitudes more efficient at development than capitalist firms, but it doesn't have enough time.) I don't know what the solution is or how we get out of this mess without entertaining authoritarian tendencies across the left, right or center. On the left we risk some stalinist hell. The right a fascist one, though many here might think it would be nice and perhaps for them specifically it would for a time. The center doesn't exist, it's just more hypercapitalist hellscape like now. And that's not even to start on the impending biosphere collapse.

The one thing that I know though is that something will happen and our economic conditions will change for better or worse eventually. History is marching.

>>22401549
>Saudi arabia loses most of their oil reserves
in which way is this linked to dollar collapse?

Life will get “grayer”
Few years ago someone predicted that western nations will be like the Baltic’s
That there will be no revolution.
There will be no great conflict
Life for everyone turning into a slow grey apathetic embrace.
Doesn’t matter if your a democrat, republican, stacy, normie, teen, or schizo.

Anyone who isn’t apart of the ruling class gets fucked. Welcome to the roaring 20s

>>22401673
>Higher taxes = less supply
why?

>>22403331
agreed on the first bit entirely. I apologize if I came off as blaming this on any particular race I didn't intend to. I'm tired and writing like a proper pile of piss.

On the second part agreed. Taxation as it stands is horrendous and only benifits oligarchs who legislate themselves money to fix the market and maintain their monopolies. I was just using food insecurity as an example because people were under threat of famine when the market broke down during the Arab Spring. Thank you for adding nuance on both points anon. I'm off to bed for the time though.

schizo doomer thread

>>22403331
>Imagine getting revenge against people who had nothing to do with

Lol yeah. That would be so stupid, to scapegoat a group of people so the government gets more power over tge ignorant masses. Never gonna happen.

>>22403483
ahistorical take my doomer friend. Conditions can't stay the same forever. The breaking point won't be an event where one morning we wake up to a new world. It will be a decades long transition of much tumult and suffering where years after the dust settles we'll look back and realize we're living in a new world. If you're young, say under 35 you'll likely live to see it. Just stay away from those coastal cities, things are utter powder kegs. Mountain towns with good water supplies and soil are where you wanna be. Cohesive community is your best defense. Bunkers are useless once you run out of food and manufacturing ability.

People in their early 20s want a revolution because they are poor? Talk about impatient.

>>22402331
Central banks are loading up on gold and pushing the price higher because for their liquidity, they need something small comparatively. They can’t fucking buy barrels of silver and store it so they’re stuck with gold and so are the HNIs.
If you’re poor or middle class, stick with silver and crypto. And own both of them yourself. Physical silver and crypto which you have private keys of yourself.

>>22401814
>38
>no children
sorry pal you are a failure by any measure

>>22403623
You dont value freedom? You can do a lot better off finanacially if you are not chained to a wife and kids. Guess this is just Dad cope.

>>22401154
So what you are saying is you are a loser and all your friends are losers and you just want your gibs ultimately.

Am I right?

>>22403671
I don't have children. I'm 28 and a failure. I never said anything about a wife but to be a genetic dead end is to be a failure. Freedom is just a concept. Genetics are an eternity.

>>22401154
Yeah the chocolate bars keep getting smaller yet cost the same here in the UK

>>22403671
i know there's little point in my responding, because cultural milieu inculcation runs deep, but if you're from a western country and think having children is bad, and "freedom" is good then you were sold a lie and you're an NPC right now... wake up, neo, the matrix has you

>>22402379
What's it like being retarded

>>22403431
The Bolsheviks did not have crippling cellphone addiction. I think our radical leftists are too distracted to organize at any significant level, significant in that their aim might actualize. I don’t see how it goes from culture clash to actual calculated albeit vicious politicking beyond more extreme forms of terror from disorderly mobs, which may be enough to cause some kind of tectonic shift, but then the “clash” will just be a race to the bottom of the mob mentality barrel. It seems we have a while to go before truly escaping post-modernism. Everything is all surface level, but perhaps it doesn’t matter?

>>22401154
Dude the issue is we are actually more cucked than our parents were,
We’re ok not having a house, because we have a phone
We’re ok not moving, because we have Instagram
We’re ok not fucking, because we have porn

Internet changed dynamics

Anyway, buy t.me/TrumpBux

>>22401154
the think tanks like the world economic forum and bilderberg group don't think there will be a tipping point they think they can steer the ship to aldous huxleys brave new world
which might be true see kali yuga, tartarus, hell etc

I love how how they creates this narrative of police brutality and how we should de-fund the police. Sure improve the police and clean up the corruption and bad cops.

But how about introducing new police systems into our world? Think about it, we have police to patrol us (You and me the common citizen) but what about the rest of the country? Who polices the police? the gov? naw. the courts? naw. Who polices the government and corrupt politicians? Checks and balances? naw, don't make me laugh. Who polices the financial sector that caused the 08 crash? Who polices the service sector that allows for scam companies to screw over law abiding Americans in bad business? You have a squater? tough luck your on your own.

A good example is SF California. Police wont roll for crack homeless or druggies. They wont arrest them, why? They dont want those diseased and dirty people in their cars and jail cells, they get free pass. You and me? we get ticket for anything because we can pay the find and make bail. We have something to lose. Seems like the leaders of our country like the status quo, where we are holding it all together while distract us with bs so they can continue to stay in power in minecraft.

>>22401184
Fpbp

>>22404404
Or just get rid of police and have enforcers. Caught stealing? A couple hours with a switchblade ends face down in a ditch and a.22 buried in the skull. Protesting for blm? Car battery and nipples with a little crucifixion. Rape, trespassing, assault, whatever. If we start solving problems instead of giving blacks a free pass every time they commit crime we would not be where we are right now. You don't even need a police force. Offer a nice bounty and I'm sure you'll find plenty of volunteers to patrol and clean up the streets.

>>22404619
They do this in Iraq, and all across the middle east

https://youtu.be/NxhGch0C6hE

>>22404619
Doesn't work because gang/mob rule will win. You'll have literal warlord gang leaders rolling into towns and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>22401357
>becoming
100 years ago

>>22401518
a civil war and then the rest of the world dumps their dollars
only that will crush it and cause hyperinflation

>>22401357
We spend the most on social programs of any first world country, you just dont see it cause theyre run by retards

>>22403268
WTF is it really that bad out there for zoomers? I worked part time for 10 bucks an hour and rented a room in a 3 bedroom with students for 8 years in my 20s because I couldnt stand my narcissistic mother HOLY SHIT ZOOMERS YOU ARE FUCKED SORRY BRO NOT MY FAULT

>>22404916
So maybe as a matter of pragmatism skip the punishment part and just drop them. Warlord gang leaders would be too afraid to enter towns. Any of their dealers who even cross the slightest line beyond providing a service is instantly killed with prejudice. Nothing works better. Apparently they do this in the middle east. Not exactly a place known for its war lord gangbang drug dealers until the US came and started importing them and defending the drug manufacturing spots and precursor farms. Phillipines, Singapore, many others. It's strange you think policies that enable them to flourish is better than policies which have literally always completely eliminated them.

>>22405553

They won't even CONSIDER you if you make that little money lmao.

>>22401154
it's going to get worse before it gets better anon

much worse. Enjoy while it lasts, we are currently in the stage of corruption of a golden era, but some of the golden era remains.
Enjoy while it lasts.

>>22401154
Work harder crybaby pussy. You aren’t owed a fucking thing entitled nigger.

>>22405647

The entitled boomer has arrived

>>22405609
Rooms rent for $200-600 depending on the city in America. Definitely doable on $10/hr.just not very wise unless your parents are real pieces of shit. Shit, my gf and I rented in an older apartment midtown just the two of us for $800/mo for a couple years and split costs. Utilities were included so it was pretty good deal. Living alone is not easy when poor, but with a gf or a couple friends it's not that bad so long as you aren't expecting to be on the golf course or waterfront.

>>22405657
I’m 36 pussy. I have a wife and kids and house.

>>22401154
youre living in the most prosperous time in human history.

>>22405880
36 pussy, 36 boomer, same fucking shit whatever you want to call it. You come from a different time and never had to work or know the meaning of struggle.

>>22401357
>becoming

we became communist in all but name as soon as we started letting women vote

>>22405938
Suck my dick you don’t know shit and I’m sure you’re just baiting me fucking cocksucking pussy ass faggot.

>>22401154
>decline in our purchasing power?
Yes and it nakes me want to MURDER everyone above age 60 and take all of their shit.

>>22405887
For them

>>22401204
Hello, brother.

>>22405983
Pathetic cope. Just kys loser

>>22405972
Careful now, Eustace. You know what the doctor says about getting your blood pressure up. It's time you went to bed anyway. Big day tomorrow at the chiropractor and getting breakfast with the gang at McDonald's 0500 sharp. That new guy in the birdwatching club is quite a rascal so you can't let him show you up again this week.

>>22406030
fucking kek

>>22401230
Only amongst a couple thousand pathetic LARPers. The rest of us will be watching on Youtube, laughing at you.

>>22406030
It’s 7 AM EST. Congrats outing yourself as a euro or west coast faggot

>>22401566
Dude was about to lose the game since he had to pay. But he loaned himself money so he stays in. Basicly making the monry worthless but the assets he has stay

>>22405887
Yes, and it is passing before our eyes.
We have 30 years left, tops.

Then another war and downturn, some societal collapse. Then in 100 years or so the start of a new empire and higher heights.
That's how it goes.

>>22406019
Ok, boomer.

come russia here you can buy everything with money

>>22401564
The racial issues are real, commie.

>>22401564
>if we kill the billionaires that'll fix everything
goddamn commie scum should be the one offed

At this point i just want everyone to suffer. Bring the crash ASAP

>>22401855
No.
Fuck communism.
Fuck CCP.
Fuck China.
The free market conquers all
Free speech conquers all

God willing we will all find a way to surmount these dismal times, i wish you all the best and a better path for humanity

>>22403152
>psuedo-science of race realism
Well thought out post but you botched it with the above statement. Racial cohesion is extremely important for the wellbeing of a nation. One of the telltale signs of collapse in Rome was the integration of hundreds of thousands of Goths into their lands.

>>22405553
Boomer parents made me pay rent at 16, they are wealthy first born children with inherited property, rental properties.
I have spent 90% of my wealth on rent for about a decade since I've seen my parents. I'm too poor to even visit them but idk if they actually care or anything. Really doesn't seem they like me, even though they say they miss me. Its hard to draw the line at inexcusable behavior and being unwelcome,even if they say I am.

Does crypto feel like a real ticket out of this Jewish system, bringing about new freedom, efficiency and opportunity, or is it a double edged sword whereby implementing it further enslaves all of us?

>>22402103
Lmao Trump is a zionist kike

>>22401154
kek. you're in your early 20s anon. you don't think the angst of your generation is normal, but it is.
>oh no, what am I gonna do with my life?!?

>>22407210

Rent at 16 wtf, way to kneecap your finances

>>22401154
Fuck these demoralization posts dude. Every fucking day there are so many. New flash: you’re not okay if you’re on 4chan. You’re talking to people just as fucked up or depressed as you and this place becomes an echo chamber for sadfags

>>22407210
you're problem isn't your parents charging you rent a decade ago...it's your poor me victim complex. a better man would have been sharpened by the experience. you failed, not your parents.

>>22402530

If you're in Oregon, Puerto Rico, The Amazon, Hong Kong, Syria, Belarus, Bolivia, or various other countries, shit has already hit the fan.

We're one or two el ninos away from a blue ocean event, which will put the ports of most port cities underwater.

>>22406848
Kek, here’s the 2017 chart

>>22407446
It should give the stats corrected for the percent population of each race.

>>22401154
USA is very clearly on the decline but honestly so is everywhere else. I think this is a natural side
effect of overpopulation. more people + finite resources = everyone gets less. japan population has been in decline for a while and their economy is improving. USA could do this except we insist on importing millions of illiterate 3rd wordlers every year who will all need government support their entire lives once automation wiped out all their jobs. it’s unironically over for zoomers. I’m so glad I’m a 30yo boomer and already have an established career and lots of money saved/invested. life is really going to suck for most zoomers.

>>22407355
16 is too young for rent. you’re supposed to
be focused on studying at that age. The second you graduate then it’s fair game.

>>22407671
16 is too young for rent but the point is to not be a pussy ass whining victim. Life ain’t easy or fair. People are rotten assholes. Suck it up buttercup welcome to reality. Grow some balls faggot you would have been almost certainly killed just a few hundred years ago for being such a weak bitch. This isn’t directed at you but every whiney little woe is me victim crybaby. Fuck you.

>>22401154
We need more inflation goy-give more money to the billionaires

>>22403733
So stop buying them.

>>22407864
This, that guy should poison his parents so they end up vegetables and put them in a nursing home once he has power of attorney.

>>22401154
Nice blog doomer faggot. No, there is not about to be a race war or apocalypse, you’ll have to actually address your issues & act like a big boy.

>>22401154
>where's the tipping point? Is revolution coming?

never happening. if you want your future look at much of europe, where people rent their entire lives because real estate is utterly unaffordable, and where everyone blindly accepts a lifetime of subsistence wages with high taxes and limited to no upward mobility. who knew that globalism -- a race to equilibrium wages -- would, year by year, devastate our standard of living?

>>22407355
>its your fault that you were weak enough for your parents to cripple you financially while you were still a helpless adoloscent heh nothin personnel kid
good b8 m8

Imagine justifying failed parenting by saying "git gud".

>>22403709
>Freedom is just a concept.
>Genetics are an eternity.
Massive existential cope. No they're not, atoms are and even then to say its eternity is an ignorant assertion. Reaching the apex of your humanly potential has greater potency then spawning some pathetic being because their parental figures didn't have the resources, environmental conditions nor the state of mind to raise a mind that would then surpass a high enough bar because they fucking settled with 'muh genetics'.

>>22401204
are you me?

>>22401304
Got you familia

>>22402276
Right on. Just like Ben Shapiro says if you are not making enough money just get a higher paying job. Or just work more hours or get a second job. Think if you worked 70 hours a week! You would be rich in no time! Simple.

>>22401221
Oh yeah. All my friends are dead.
I mean, I hadn't seen any of them in a while cause I'm nodrugs now. But still, I'm never gonna be old and like bump into an old friend and reminisce because they're all dead. Sucks.

>>22401184
>>22401230
I'm starting to think that Soros' big play has always been 1488 pill revival.
Just think about it for a minute

>>22402276
You are the sweetest, most succulent plump juicy goy cattle speciment I’ve ever aeen

>>22403483
I also saw that episode of Fairly Odd Parents.

>>22406848
>>22407446
Remember that there are twice as many white people below the poverty line than black people as well.

>>22401154
> is revolution coming
As long as the tiktok servers are still live and people have enough to eat, no.

>>22401401
Broke, having third then fourth then fifth child. The future will be set by the quantity and quality of your offsprings' connections, what better than blood tied siblings? You can either help build the come back generation and share their success with wrinkles on your face or you can ensure we all get fucked.

>>22401154
Natural selection.

I don't care at all that retarded normies are poor and killing them selves. If America collapses I will simply immigrate to China. I don't give a fuck.

>>22401154
They will crash the economy and then install a socialist social justice system. For men it will only matter what genes you got as women will pick entirely based on physical markers with the nanny socially just state taking care of everything else. In fact this is already happening, I know many good successful men who simply cannot compete in the dating market as liberated women who dont need money and dont have social and moral norms to restrain them simply pick criminals with the biggest jawline time and time again. This is the nigerization of the world, the only thing left will be slaves distinguished by jawsize and a small totalitarian socialist (((elite))) who controls everything.

>>22401154
The age of chaos will shatter the nation's sanity. It's important that we maintain our composure in these times so that we can rise to assume power during the coming age of reconquest.

>>22404337
Sause pls

>>22401154
>guys I know drown their sorrow in alcohol and weed (meth, for some)
Get out of these people, they are not adding any value to your life. don't expect anything from them and don't expect you to get better if everything you hear is just losers around you!

I don't know if there will ever be a true revolution. Crypto is a solid attempt but without fiat onramps the only way is to have a complete black market. I think Americans are too complacent. All this rioting yet nobody wants to go to bloodshed. So it's all sterile

>>22401401
french revolution happened when food prices were 40% of annual income. Bolshevik rev, same deal. Once food becomes 40% of your daily costs, the collective shifts into full on rage mode and heads fly. Long before then, the smart folks either headed out of dodge into a safe haven, secured their assets in some fashion by investing in tier 1 assets like precious metals, or picked a side. Usually some combination thereof.

>>22401908
I'm starting to take that pill as a lolbert. But I just can't get over a figurehead being an evil jew and ruining it all.

>>22406848
you don't need to segregate by race. Income and standard of living adjustments are far more indicative of reality. Race is an artificial construct. The promoters of that construct, knowingly or not, are trying to make everyone racist, while blaming racism for the very problems they claim to abhor. Have you looked at the statistics when it's broken down by any other metric than race? Have you looked at social mobility metrics? Have you done any of your own research?

>>22401154
Nobody knows what's happening. These things can only be understood in retrospect. Just ride it out

>>22406133
Shit, this is some small dick energy

Based thread, even though most of you retards are too blinded by muh race to see the bigger picture. Imagine wailing against big government oppression while licking the boots of their field agents because they beat up black people lmao

Hey, frens. Just woke up. Thanks for all the really helpful advice. I should probably scale back some of my interactions with the people pulling me down.
I can't save them. The only person that is going to save them is themselves.
Does anyone currently know what percentage of food makes up our annual income?
I don't trust rigged (((CPI))) numbers.
I want to try and use quick maths as to when the inflation will lead to a revolution so I can create a timeline for escape.

>>22401304
jesus hyperinflation is 50% per month or some shit, larp to think thats happening anytime soon

>>22413510
Yes, but that inflation is not showing up as badly in cumsoomer goods. It's showing up in housing, education and car purchases. No one can afford anything without going into massive fucking debt. You are not free. Stop defending the usury and tricks played on us common folks.

>>22406126
Kek this

>>22401255
Checked and kek'd

>>22401357
The world has been fully socialist since WW2

>>22401330
Hire a surrogate.

>>22414302
Isn't that a reverse cuck?

all these retarded pol doomers think so.ething is going to happen in their boring lives well guess what? no,nothing will happen. corona, riots in the streets and half the US being on fire is about the only happening you fags will get because the Jews won the moment whites became predispositioned to trying to be "helpful".

doomers are basically bobos that want to short the bottom of societal collapse but get liquidated instead

>>22414416
Hey, a goy can dream, right? Get outta here, rabbi.

>>22413451
compare your grocery bill from last year. it's ~15% right now. In 2010 it was ~10%. In 2000 it was about 8%. Exponential growth hits like a bitch. This stuff doesn't happen overnight, until all of a sudden it does. Been going slowly up since the 70s, and increases at faster and faster rates. 2022-2025 probably 20-30%. 2025-2035 ~30%-40%.

You can look all this up, the data's all there, no one's hiding any of it. If you want, you can adjust expectations off shadowstats CPI and inflation rates, that just shifts the expected timeframes about a decade.

>>22413880
Good point. It's deferred and many of the true costs are hidden, though. It's not reflected immediately in general purchasing because of a bunch of reasons, including but not limited to: upstream impacts of massive influx of gubmint gimmes, low velocity, and where money is actually directed right now (subsidies to artificially deflate prices, price/rent controls, etc.).

>>22403152
>Over 50% of adults under 30 are now living at home.
Not everyone can be rich. Sorry that you're inferior.

>>22403152
>race realism
>pseudoscience

Kill yourself, kike

>>22414660
>food makes up 15% of annual budget and will balloon to 30% in 2-5 years
Son of a bitch that's insane. Will another round of QE from Jerome Powell further drive this shit home? I don't know why they keep pumping this shit market up.
Even if Zion Don gets another term, it's going to crash all around him.
Fuck, I don't know anymore man.

>>22406235
30?! how about 3 months

>>22414829
>3 months
Explain yourself

>>22414348
You pay 30 grand and get a kid.

It's cheaper and better than a wife.

>>22414766
>Will another round of QE from Jerome Powell further drive this shit home?
Yes. JPow is just a figurehead though. It's not like he makes these decisions on his own, anymore than the president does. The incentives for bureaucrats reward this kind of thing. Debasement of the money supply to pay for wars, social projects, and public works is the natural process of the dominant civilization. It happenen in Athens with the drachma, Rome with the denarii, twice in Byzantium with the solidus, Spain, Weimar Germany, the US Revolutionary dollars, the Confederate dollars, and now it's happening now. There has never not been a time when this processed occurs. It's the biggest wealth transfer in human history. Times like these are when fortunes are made off pennies of foresight and bold actions. The next century's dynasties are created today. It doesn't seem like it, because muh complicit media machine trying to keep people small, and small people will always want to blame things on some bad guy. But this is an incredibly exciting time to be in.

>>22415074
What should we long? What is the antithesis of the US Dollar?

>>22415203
Yuan

>>22415302
Yes but yuan is fiat.

>>22415203
Alternative asset classes. Depends on where you think the future is going. More millionaires were made in the Great Depression than at any other time. I can only say what I believe in. DYOR. As of last week, I'm 30% precious metals (mix of silver/gold miners and paper bullion), 30% crypto, 20% unallocated equities to buy on market-wide pullback, 15% fiat, and 5% bullion. Silver miners are the most undervalued they've ever been in the past 40 years and they're about to moon. Some of the penny miners will go >150x. Same thing happened in the last silver rush back in the 70s. Anything with silver in the name went up 100x over 5-10 years. Bullion, whether physical (findbullionprices.com) or equities (PHYS or PSLV, next best thing. https://sprott.com/investment-strategies/physical-bullion-trusts.. Other paper metals are worthless. Empty vaults in a manipulated market.) Crypto is crypto, while pegged to the S&P pretty closely also sort of acts like a hedge against hyperinflation. No one knows how it's going to perform over the next 10 years. Distributed ledger tech is the future of finance; it's just the medium term that's shifty. I'm basically short USD for the next 5 years. The next year or two there might be some drops, but I trade with the macros, not micros.

>>22415436
give me some silver miner names i only got barrick gold

>>22415436
cont.
If you can sort through the alarmist PM stackers and the FUD of the crypto shills, there are solid picks. PHYS, PSLV, SIL, SILJ, RING, GORO, AUNFF, MUX, AG, GDX, GDXJ, AUMN, DOLLF, MMNGF, NEM, TKRFF, CLSK, OMER, INTC, KTOS, RNMBY, XOM, RSR, PNK, LINK, BTC, AMPL, ALGO, XMR are my main holdings. What does well in a depression? People smoke, drink, gamble, fight. Governments build, bleed, mine, gear up, stockpile. There won't all of a sudden not be riches. It's a zero sum game. Money is just transferred. Where will it go? How can you find out? What kinds of questions do you need to ask to make your own decisions?

>>22415642
This is just what I have. If you search /pmg/ in the archives there are probably a few anons who drop some knowledge on their holdings.

>>22415692
heavy aurcana and dolly. If you don't want to pick the individuals, just stay with SIL, SILJ, GDX, and GDXJ. If you go onto yahoo finance you can pull up the breakdown of the funds and start looking into the individual companies from there. Great place to start doing some of your own research and digging in. That's where you can actually start pulling ahead of the herd that is now heading to metals.

>>22412675
Denying the simple reality that people of African ancestry are in general two standard deviations below average intelligence and trying to force the whole "muh lack of social mobility" narrative without taking IQ into account is intellectually dishonest. There is always going to be 10% of the population in ANY society that is genuinely too stupid to do even the most simple of menial tasks. It just so happens that this occurs more often in people of African descent than any other race and denying the correlation between low IQ and impulsive, violent behavior is being willfully ignorant of a significant cause of societal problems.

That being said, the destruction of the nuclear family and replacement of it with the welfare state is the single biggest contributor to black destitution and poor social outcomes in America, NOT systemic racism that has been explicitly, legally removed from institutions since the 60s.

Kek

>>22416638
I'm not denying that black people in general are intellectually stunted in comparison to other elements of the nation. It makes sense, and the data shows that. I'm just saying that it's not actionable in any meaningful way. It's like going to the eye doctor and they do the "is it clearer 1, or 2? 1, or 2?" and you say, "2" and then they go, "3, or 4?" and flip the lenses and you say 3, and so on. Looking at these kinds of issues through the lens of race can be useful, but it's neither necessary, nor the most effective, nor the most direct way to addressing them. Supreme resolution of the whole racially oriented paradigm lies not in reinforcing it but in discarding it altogether. Are there more efficient, direct, and actionable ways of looking at the root of societal issues than race? Absolutely. Race is a shell game. Always has been. It's a distraction eaten up by ignorant slaves, who themselves were taught by ignorant slaves how to be ignorant slaves. What is it a distraction from? What other ways can these issues be looked at? How does that inform individual action at an everyday level, and how does that influence the collective as a whole? The only way to look past an illusion is to see it for what it is. The whole idea of race is wool pulled over the eyes of a willing populace looking for a boogeyman when there is no need. Does that mean it's not relevant for some people? sure, but it doesn't have to be. It's a choice. I can put my money into a manipulated, losing investment. It's my choice, after all.

>>22416999
How is it not actionable? Programs can be created to benefit people of low IQ, but ultimately it is up to the individual and family units who house those low IQ people to take care of them when they cannot integrate into society as an individual themselves. Providing the tools for an individual's success creates strong families (two individuals coming together to have children), which in turn creates strong societies. I completely agree that race problems are pushed by certain (((elements))) within the country to confound and confuse the general populace into belligerence and eventual complacency once (((they))) decide to restore order, since the problem was of (((their))) own making anyway for the strategic purpose of divide and conquer to deflect blame from themselves in times of upheaval that continues their plans. People of lower IQ are more easily molded into the golem NPCs that (((they))) want, made to think that what they are doing is what they want but really they are socially conditioned to do what (((they))) actually want. And people of lower IQ are generally of African descent. I agree that racial problems are a carefully crafted smokescreen that are often blown out of proportion by the aforementioned elements, but even if African double parent household family rates were restored to the level they were in the 50s and 60s, the IQ problem would still cause Africans to have a higher rate of crime no matter where they are. It would certainly be much less than today, but the problem would remain.

I think both problems need to be addressed. The problem is, blacks in this country have been so conditioned to believe they are the eternally oppressed that they don't even realize that they choose to be their own worse oppressors, and as such unless the culture itself changes, nothing else will change. And (((they))) will not let the culture change.

>>22417521
it's not actionable in any meaningful way to look at societal issues through the prescription lens of race. More direct paths exist that do not reinforce a felt sense of victimization and separation. IQ, for that matter, too. Being slow to learn is not a handicap. My gf has major dyslexia but she can still make good decisions. By addressing the rank disempowerment that operates at all levels of society, by cutting straight to the root of all these problems at the individual level, all of these problems are solved as a matter of course. To do anything else is treating symptoms.

Here's a quote from my business: "Instead of addressing the ills of different slices of society and seeking solutions to demographic, governmental, and technological issues, we offer solutions that cut straight to the root of all problems: the human individual’s conditioned belief systems and identifications."

Treating people's conditioned behaviors and responses to such things as money issues, human-human interactions, and business opportunities are just vehicles. Vectors for treating diseased individuals. Which is basically everyone who still defines themselves as "I am this race" or "I am so-and-so smart." regardless of their IQ, social standing, or whatever else, a person can still operate at the absolute cutting edge of their capabilities. It's very simple, all very easy to train someone to stop being a victim, but they have to want it, and that doesn't sit well with most societal initiatives, which are based on "get other people to change in accordance with my desires," which is the whole problem in a nutshell.

So do you see how this is a complete perspective shift away from race as an issue that creates other problems, and instead to treat the set of all issues at the root?

>>22402235
>Divorce and being a single parent is considered glorified now.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-home-or-kids-together-but-couple-still-spouses-appeal-court-rules

>>22417725
>Being slow to learn is not a handicap.
Demonstrably wrong, by definition in fact.
>By addressing the rank disempowerment that operates at all levels of society, by cutting straight to the root of all these problems at the individual level, all of these problems are solved as a matter of course. To do anything else is treating symptoms.
Alright, I'll bite because I agree from an idealistic standpoint. How would you practically overthrow the current power structure and institute your own individual utopian empowerment for the paraplegic sub-60 IQ African woman who cannot think beyond the immediate present and future?
>It's very simple, all very easy to train someone to stop being a victim, but they have to want it, and that doesn't sit well with most societal initiatives, which are based on "get other people to change in accordance with my desires," which is the whole problem in a nutshell.
On this we agree. We disagree on the modes to get there it seems and the difficulties that arise when different groups with different values and culture try to coexist in the same nation and neither wants to assimilate to the majority culture.
>So do you see how this is a complete perspective shift away from race as an issue that creates other problems, and instead to treat the set of all issues at the root?
I do but it is an impossible feat currently as the (((people))) at the top who push multiculturalist thinking and forced integration with very disparate racial and ethnic groups who share sometimes diametrically opposed values, morals and laws are very much aware that they do not buy their own bullshit they spout and are coincidentally very insular, nepotistic and preferential when it comes to the supposed fitness of their own (((race))). You must remove them from power and hope that in the ensuing vacuum people are willing to shed their natural in-group preferences that arise from race.

>>22402103
Ok Boomie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ

>>22402103
Even though I'm gonna vote for Trump, I do so only with the knowledge that the alternative would be much worse, as the faction of (((them))) which seem to prop up Biden are much worse for the country in both the short and long term, whereas Trump's faction of (((them))) at least seems to not want to openly rip up the Constitution (yet). Make no mistake that things are fucked no matter who we get, the only question is it just depends on the timescale and level of fucked things become.