/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22141078 stale link

>Prospecting
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

working links add-in

i own silver and gold, but there's nothing to talk about.
they're pretty boring ass rocks and take forever to appreciate in value.

>>22155846
Can someone tell me why silver took a huge dump on Wednesday?

>>22155865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjaoRVgOk0
monday started the pullback

>>22155846
what's with the dilator controller?

>>22155865
It's another weak hands shakeout
15mtoz still waiting for delivery
Supply crunch is NOW, HODL bros

>>22155973
I aint selling but I feel stupid for buying AG calls. Lesson learned back to physical for me.

>>22155865
See the DXY. USD, the world reserve currency, had a massive boost in value due to the Euro decreasing due to several reasons.

This is all temporary. In the coming months the DXY will continue to fall.

>>22155803
roll

>>22156047
So the milkshake theory wasn't rotten after all.

>>22155751
I bought silver!

It looks like JP Morgan decided to give us a Labor Day Sale.

>>22155947
>>22155973
>>22156047
Thanks. Just need to keep the hands strong

Some arsehole accelerated when I was turning in the local carpark then gets angry because he thought I cut him off even though he was miles away and started to follow me anons. I tried to lead him out to the woods but he turned off. Would've been hairy haha.

>>22156026
Good lad, that's the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UmpCAI_qJM
The most based podcast in a while, Robert Kiyosaki invited Peter Shiff.

>>22156047
>DXY
Why do people use the DXY, which is over 50% just USDEUR, to analyze metals? What does the euro have to do with relevant dollar strength / weakness when the Eurozone is our economic bitch and their central banks copy ours anyways?

IMO we should at least use the trade weighted dollar index, and given that CAD and pesos are memes, just use USDCNY since 90% of our economically significant imports come from chinks.

>>22156083
No this only shows how metals behave with the USD during a normal market (USD goes up metals go down. Obvious stuff). No matter how bad it looks we're still in a normal market. No big economic disasters/events yet and a large group of people still believe everything will normalize by next year.

If things get pretty bad worldwide there is a pretty good chance that the milkshake will sour and people will flock to other assets instead.

>>22156173
Don't ask me I don't know

>>22156106
Working Man's Hands!

>>22156047
Bunch of PMI numbers out of europe coming this morning. Those will probably determine short term direction on eurusd pair. DXY hesitating around 93 now.

>>22156173
>90% of our economically significant imports come from chinks
way overstated bro. Canada and Mexico are larger than Chinas market share

>>22156083
>>22156207
How was milkshake theory proven when the feds foreign swap lines were barely used and already back to zero? Where is the desperate demand for USD globally? Don't say China because they have more reserves than USD debts.

Deflation from tighter lending standards and public uncertainty seem like the only points for a stronger dollar, temporarily.

>>22156365
Looking at the trends the DXY should be on its way back down now. If it continues to 93.5 an above then metals are very fucked (at least in the short run).

>>22156083
schittlets seething

>>22156173
That's nice but it's not how metals trade. If there's nothing specific to supply/denand of metals happening at the moment they will more or less respond tick for tick to whatever the major usd pairs are doing. You can watch this happening in real time right now. Bring up silver cfds (non-delayed) and dxy or usdeur. Watch.

>>22156369
We have 70 billion trade deficit with Mexico
10 billion surplus with Canada

380 billion trade deficit with China.

Canadian and Mexican pesos are not in the DXY anyways; it's a meme.

>>22156382
>Where is the desperate demand for USD globally?
I'm not too sure

>Deflation from tighter lending standards and public uncertainty seem like the only points for a stronger dollar, temporarily.
I honestly don't see deflation coming. My future scenario is the governments inflating to absurd levels, letting the currencies fail, and then implementing a new digital currency (the ultimate plan and goal from the beginning).

>>22156486
the point went over your head. more goods of real value are exchanged between CAN-USA-MEX than about anywhere else. as a continent we can tell the rest of the world to fuck off

Platinum buy opp at $880 comming soon.

>>22155751
Aight you nerds, I want your feedback since I'm doing this literally all alone and in complete secret to everyone I know. When shit went down in march, I shat my pants and realised that if shit hit the fan I'd be helpless. So among other things like either investing my money or taking it out of the bank, I bought pms. Since then, I got my hands on
>4 gold ounce coins - a Krugerrand, a Philarmonica, an Australian one and a British one
>about 20 1g little bars, that I see as a complete waste of money but my reasoning was that them being smaller would facilitate a potential exchange for liquidity - still not sure I'm not just stupid for buying them
>approximately 3kg of silver, under the form of 5x 100g bars and the rest in coins
This representa about 30% of my total net worth if we don't count crypto, which is very volatile and not a good indicator for troubled times imo. How did I do?

>>22156714
>How did I do?
better than most people who dont have anything.
most people here will say get more silver but that's about my G/S ratio as well.

>>22156714
Hope you have at least a suicide stack in Link anon. Other than that, you are doing well.

My friends, I need some advice. About two years ago I bought a 1oz gold eagle from a seemingly reputable gold and coin shop in my neighborhood with cash. However, I have the feeling it might be fake because of several factors. And stupidly, I've misplaced the receipt. What should I do? Thanks anons.

>>22156863
get it tested by another coin shop.

>>22156863
Bend it, obviously
Unironically cut it in half to see what's inside

>>22156803
I have exactly 69 LINK but my holdings in crypto aren't huge as I only got into it like in May

>>22156898
If it's fake will they keep it?

Who bought the dip, be honest

>>22156944
I would if I had any powder left :(

>>22156944
>Who bought the dip
to be fair, how can you even buy the dips at this point? It's not like the premiums change much.
At least in my area, physical silver has been the same price for a month now, regardless if spot was 25 or 29.

>>22156863
What coin is it?

>>22157167
c'mon man you made me choke on my chex mix

>>22157167

>>22157237
>>22157241
kek sorry im very tired

>>22157241
do a gravity test

>>22156714
where did you buy the pms?

>>22156800
checked.
What's a good G/S ratio really? I have like 5 oz of gold and 50 oz of silver..guessing I need more silver?

>>22156714
How much did it all cost you and how much is it all worth now

>>22157280
European mint and gold silver be.

>>22157320
I have that written on an excel file at home but I'm way in the green as I bought most of the gold in march/early April when it was at around 1400 dollarinos and silver at like 15. In total I spent about 11k euros

>>22157277
What's gravity test?

>>22157241
why do you think it's fake?

looks like a typical 1980's strike at first glance

>>22157241
Well it passes the eye test. Does it fail the ping test? If it doesn't ring it has a tungsten core.

>>22157320
right now i'm looking at 60% return on gold and 50% on silver, started buying 5 years ago, so all in all about average boomer returns lol.

>>22155751
What's the best form to buy this in? Where do you pay the least markup?

>>22157376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_2vA1qO2fA

>>22157381
Color differs just slightly from a newer coin I have

>>22157384
It rings but it has a slightly higher tonality than another newer eagle I have.

>>22157422
Interesting. Will poast results of this test shortly. Ty anon

>>22157376
if you drop it does it hover in the air or fall to the ground. if it hovers, its a hologram.

>>22157384
The most important thing is to:

1. Check the mass, diameter, and thickness. If one or more of these factors are off you have a fake.

2. Does the coin pass the all three measurements? Good, but you still have one more important test: the ping test. Tungsten is a metal that is very similar to Gold in density/weight, so fake coins with tungsten core can have similar weight and dimensions. However it easily fails the ping test. While tungsten makes little to no sound when tapped, real coins with copper (e.g. Eagles) makes a very distinct very high pitched and loud ping noise when tapped with an object.

3. If the coin passes all the tests mentioned above, then the only concern is having a fake coin with real gold (so real gold but fake mint/design). In this case the only loss is the premium then.

>>22157508
Best of luck fren.

>>22157467
my guess would be either slight changes in composition at the mint, or perhaps preservation or surface treatment.

color varies on the eagles because they're not pure gold. So the copper and silver mixed in change the tone of the coin and can change over time and by exposure to chemicals.

>>22157477
Are you hitting the coins in the same places? I noticed that ringing has different tones if you hit at inconsistent places.

Anyways if it rings you're sure it has no tungsten in it and it has gold. Worst case scenario you got one of those fakes that have slightly lower gold content (20k vs 22k).

why did my post just vanish lol

>>22157477
>>22157554
Also the thickness of the reeds (the "rinds") of the coin matters in the sound of the ping. All coins have slightly different reeds (due to factory inconsistency) and I can see here they are different >>22157467

This can slightly alter the tonality.

>>22157467
Also to note your coins definitely pass the eye test, which is to me the best test. There are no fakes in the market that really nailed the face yet (they all have weird faces), and your coin is perfect. Color is also spot on.

It's just something you know when you see these coins every day.

>>22157719
seconding this

it looks real. Even the color looks right for an eagle that old. If it's fake it's a really damn good one.

>>22157410
pls respond

>>22157467
Cut it in half
Only way to be sure

>>22157241
>olive branches
>virgin
>sun on the horizon
>bringimg light
Geee, I wonder what do all those symbols mean.

>>22157750
A fake coin that passes all measurements and ping tests, and it looks really good/real? They don't make fakes that good!

With that much effort it's much, much more cost effective to just make fake Credit Suisse bars en masse. Suckers still buy those so why bother making fake Eagles.

>>22157850
she is not a virgin

>>22157527

I think I'm lucky. Thank you anon, I'm probably paranoid.

>>22155865
Look at charts and apply some TA and you'll feel comfy. We're in a continuation pennet right now for both gold and silver, silver's seems a bit more bullish.

Although I personally feel as though QE does nothing and the Fed can't really increase inflation since no one wants loans. So truthfully there isn't a good fundamental reason to be invested in rocks beyond speculation. In the 1970's gold went from like 50 to 850 an oz and it's associated with the increasing interest rates at that time. Since we're sitting on 0%, we really only have one direction to go.

I've also heard that bond yields and rock prices are directly correlated but considering bond yields have shit the floor and gold is still high Imma call bs, it's a purely speculative market. Because it's a speculitive market, TA is gonna be your best friend. Make sure you look at daily, 3 day, and weekly charts. Don't bother trying to get a read on 15 minutes charts or any of that nonsense.

>>22157986
good, now delete this pic, Jason

>>22157986
seriously man, that looks like your name and address in the pic.

>>22157986
Close to the specific gravity than the one in the SD video kek. Nice anon.

Delete image

>>22157410
I always buy my rocks from a local dealer who I've made friends with. He gives me better prices than what I could get online since I'm paying in cash.

>>22158049

>>22157987
>Since we're sitting on 0%, we really only have one direction to go.
Negative? The macro trend for interest rates has been down if you look over the last 100 years. There's no way interest rates are going up any time soon if that's what you're implying. They're going to be at effectively 0 for the next 2 years at least and if that doesn't work they'll definitely be going negative.

I think your association between the price of gold increasing coming off the gold standard and interest rates going up at the same time isn't a good indicator of what will happen in the future.

>>22155948
it's full of giant green dildos.

>>22156047
>This is all temporary. In the coming months the DXY will continue to fall.

>>22158211
The lowest I've ever seen or heard of is -0.10 -- -0.12 in Japan. I seriously can't imagine the US driving interest rates into these territories but I suppose it's possible. The only way that's happening is if 0+% interest rates are labeled as being racist. Personally, I think low interest rates are a side effect of a highly restrictive economy, not something that has an overly dramatic effect on the economy.

I didn't even consider the gold standard aspect. So it really is just 100% speculation and market fear of a collapsing dollar? I'll stick to my TA then, thanks.

>>22156427
how is oregon so high?

>>22158412
Because its a faggot ridden socialist dump ran by retard democrats full of onions drinking cali liberals who moved from California trying to make all their failed startups not go bankrupt.

I don't know anything about investing in metals besides brass but the Japanese girl in OP pic told me to buy silver so I will. Feels like buying high considering the state of the market but eh, 100 bucks for some coins shipped, sounds kinda fun.

Lemme get this straight, I can just up and buy any of these whacky meme coins and it's basically all the same? And then I can twirl them around my fingers and chuckle at them sometimes?
https://www.providentmetals.com/silver/silver-rounds-weight/1-oz-silver-rounds.html

>>22158532
Yup! Have fun anon!

>>22158211
>>22158376
Also I really think you're getting confused about the relationship between gold and interest rates. Gold went up during the 70's because of inflation getting out of control; the government tried to get inflation under control by raising interest rates. Inflation caused both of those things to happen, interest rates raising didn't cause gold to go up.

Now I would say inflation is definitely set to go up in the next few years but that's what most governments want to happen because of how consistently low inflation has been in most developed countries for the last decade, so they're not going to start raising again until things have recovered and look stable even if inflation is a bit higher than their ideal. I don't think anyone want rates to go negative, not only because it's politically unpalatable to most people, but also because it's actually probably going to do more harm than good to the financial system and getting it to have the effect they want involves other more unpalatable measures (e.g. cashless society).

Oh no metalbros, September was supposed to be our month.

Lets say I have 10k in savings and I want to diversify. Any advice on how much to invest in gold & silver? I'm also interested in crypto as well and someone told me Bitcoin is a safe.

>>22158735
What am I seeing?

>>22158644
So how does inflation get out of control? Gold standard removed and everyone thought "free bank paper monopoly money" and started going wild with loans, and the banks just gave loans to anyone and everyone?

>>22158567
OK I bought 5 oz coins. It came out to like $32 a coin. They are neat though. I will buy more coins in the future. I hope the price goes down a little but I figure this is a very slow market in general so I'll just buy whenever I feel like it I guess.

>>22158882
Inflation gets out of control when all that BRRRRRRRRR gets used to buy a diminishing amount of goods and services. Prices could literally go stratospheric overnight in this globally linked computer market clown economy.

Going to start stacking bags of fractional silver now anons. Can get 80% Aussie stuff easily but not sure about other types. General advice for fractional silver?

Wake me up when silver is $100 USD

we need flags in this damn sub

>>22159247
You might want to sleep for a while, looks like everything is about to get fucked judging by the premarket.

>>22159335
You know you can choose your flag right?

>>22155751
Seeing these pmg threads is makes me wanna getting shiny things with a little pirates chest and white gloves, but my networth is sub 5k and mostly invested in crypto

>>22159404
I'm talking about flags that show people what country they're from accessing the site.

>>22159534
Yeah nah that shit's stupid. We got a good thing going here, don't fuck with it.

Some of the mining stocks didnt seem to care about yesterdays price dip, do we dump enough for 2 days today?

>>22159632
I just think it's nice to know where people are from or at when posting.

>>22155803
this is why we need to go back to the other op

Silver: polished or unpolished bars?

>>22159706
You could just ask I guess. Why's it so important?
Google analytics will show you PM interest globally too

I'm considering buying some PM's from an local coin shop but know nothing about gold/silver and think it is a certainty i will be completely ripped off with fake shit. Same with buying online. What do

delivery arrived!

>>22160002
You will be dont buy it

>>22155751
Meanwhile metals dumping to hell

>>22160002
buy from one of the biggest online dealers in your country. It's basically impossible to be ripped off. Stay away from ebay and similar sites.

>>22160016
What could it be?

>>22160093
Its gold bars! Yay!

>>22160044
Checked. This. I'll only buy from eBay if it has a certificate and the seller doesn't look swifty.

>>22158882
My history knowledge isn't great but I think the reason inflation went out of control in the 70's was because of the oil crisis. OPEC countries were cunts and raised oil prices a bunch, fucking over the people who relied on oil which of course was pretty much everyone because you need fuel for your car, which then rippled throughout the rest of the economy. Also probably coldwar geopolitical stuff as well.

>>22160120
make sure not to bend them fren

>>22160120
Why does gold come in plastic containers?

>>22160539
some people think plastic wrapping is harder to fake than gold bars

>>22157477
Find some concrete- hold coin about 1 inch off ground. Drop, and repeat with other coin- make sure you drop it on the edge. The concrete is hard enough where it will vibrate the entire piece so you're going to get a consistent ring from both pieces if they're the same metal content.

Any anons invested in uranium?

>>22160507
>>22160539
>>22160576
These ones are neat because they come with a laser etched qr code which you can use to check the id number. Takes me to 200oz silver and 2oz gold.

>>22155751
I will OP, but not today.

>>22158776
You're gonna wana buy as much STONKS AS YOU CAN

>>22160879
Based. Nearing 100oz silver but wanted to wait for gold to come down before I stack some.

>>22160949
random TA - why shouldn't it retest the random 20$ pump.

>>22161191
It can, can't you read ta?

>>22158644
Gold rose in the 70s because real interest rates were negative. Right now, real interest rates are negative and the Fed’s policies give the prospect of even steeper negative real rates.

>>22155803
Roll

>>22155803
gib gold

>>22160949
Roll to breakout of this channel to the upside

>>22158644
>Gold went up during the 70's because of inflation getting out of control
no, it went up because the global market for gold was opened in the 70's. Before that the world governments fixed the price and private citizens weren't allowed to own it.

>>22160949
TA frogs

>>22157004
I see silver dip, and the cheapest I see is still asahi rounds at 30.01 or whatever and that's if you buy 100+. I'm taking a break from buying for a bit

>>22156714
IMO grams are the weight size everyone loves to shit on, until they're the only size available. So I'd hang on to them and then get other 1/2 oz or even 1/4 oz stuff. Don't go overboard ofc but fractionals have their place in a solid stack. The premium eating you is the price for getting in on the game when 1 ozt gold is still considered expensive. A kid working at BK got started stacking that way, and he's legit better off with a few grams than with nothing.

>>22161924
I should add on to say gold is certainly NOT expensive rn, but in the eyes of the Normy pub it certainly is. And in turn that makes grams and fractionals more attractive.

Got myself some cheapies for silver.

>>22161985
You think gold being at It's ATH is not expensive?

>>22160879
Make sure to.bolt down that safe, anon.

>>22159056
Okay but the bank just sits on those assets and does nothing with it, no velocity, no inflation right?
There are entire arguments about QE is actually deflationary and effectively does nothing. The only time inflation is created is when people take out loans, no one is taking out loans anon. Everyone put all their capital into businesses that can crush small businesses.

>>22162106
Not compared to where it's going.

>>22160949
Lots was rolled for December. Prices will excite at that time... and in the meantime turn down. But I'd love to know what the 1oz phyz price will be in mid October if it's at 25 paper. Production levels at the mints are back to normal for a couple months now at least.

>>22162106
Adjust for inflation

>DXY going red
>tfw I timed the miner dip yesterday
Feels good

>>22162242
Inflation is happening right now, anon. It's happening in food, and happening in food. The latter is inflating at a very alarming rate.

You're stuck in MMT mode. Simply redefining inflation, adjusting the equation to not include certain aspects, etc does not make these things go away or not have real, manifest effects. The Fed and the MMT morons are simply lying, but they don't know it because they buy their own bullshit.

Buy Iron

>>22162284

>>22162386
Happening in housing and happening in food*

>>22162273
i don kno how

>>22159336
This, bond yields are super low, all speculative markets gonna shit the bed.

>>22162538
That means cheap silver near spot thanks to asahi rounds.

>>22162416
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER FOOD?!?!?
So where does the inflation come from? Like, people say it's happening but no one can seem to tell me how it happens. Money doesn't just magically fucking appear.

>>22155803
Rolling, rolling, rolling...
I hope I get 2 or 4. Love the SLQ design, and seeing Cyrillic on gold makes me laugh.

>>22155846
Nice pic, aside from the paper trash at the top. Considering your holdings, I'd use that all on silver so you can diversify further.

>>22155865
I'm starting to unironically think it's because I went to the LCS Tuesday. Normally, I go on Monday, when I'm off work — with the dump happening Tuesday — but this week, they had me scheduled Monday, so I went Tuesday. Lo and behold, it dumps on Wednesday. FML.

>>22156108
Can we stop with this, please? We hate kikes around here, and even if they do happen to do us a favor by holding the price down, it's only a side benefit. Their stated goal is still the destruction of our way of life, and that's an ovenin'.

>>22157410
>>22158060
Unironically this. My LCS is a little expensive on bullion (31 for generics when silver's at 28), but really good on Constitutional (21 * FV at same spot price, for 29.37/oz).

>>22160002
No LCS will rip off any buyer, virgin or not. They can't afford the reputation hit. Just remember to stick to American 'junk silver' — I hate that term, BTW, and prefer to call it Constitutional instead — if you get any non-bullion, and remember that the owner will probably quote junk silver prices in a multiple of face value.

Take that multiple and DIVIDE by .715 — the average amount of silver in a dollar's worth of 90% silver coins — to find the overall price of silver per troy ounce.

Going from the above price, if you put 21 / .715, you'll come up with 29.370629, which you generally want to just truncate to 2 decimal places.

Good luck to you, fren!

>>22162386
Based. Remember, there's lies, damned lies and statistics.

Anybody gonna pick up this monster?

>>22162678
Holy shit this looks beautiful.

>>22159131
Stack the most familiar good coin of your region; Australian sterling, Canadian 80%, US 90%. Avoid the debased stuff and War Nickels unless you get it appropriately under spot (hypothetical refining will cost more as purity decreases).

>>22159934
I prefer poured loaf bars and ingots, they don't tarnish as easily and can be handled and dinged without really affecting eye-appeal (and thus value, for some).

I'm a pretty stubborn old-school millennial thanks to some grizzly stackers I knew as a kid, I don't play the crypto Ponzi scheme, just hold a bit for contingencies and don't trust my stock instincts outside the mining/commodities realm so the core has always been a growing hoard of silver bullion.

I may hang my head hearing about the gains of the LINK shills, but have managed to work out an excellent system for stacking below-spot silver bullion (incidental cheap gold too but the focus is silver).

Many people are very ignorant of weights, measures and precious metals so both gold jewelry and my preference sterling silver flatware and antique hollowware, platters etc can be collected up for refining consistently and affordably.

Maybe 5-10% comes locally from sales or goodwill, most from eBay and various online classifieds. Thankfully I have lots of hands-on experience keeping my autism well honed, so instant recognition and immediate buy decisions in the competitive environment come naturally.

I have a refinery an hour away that makes and returns ingots of .9999 anywhere between 1 and 100 ozt, whatever you want (I like kilos), and with no paper trail as they take the fee as a percentage of silver.

I could rub hands in wait for the very best deals, but have been keeping my total price with all fees less than 20/Ozt even now (was less than 14/ozt through May).

It's a great system if you're not a retard, and while I'm not minting 10-baggers, picking up 10-20 lb batches at a time with instant easy retail value 50+% over my costs is pretty solid.

>>22162678
Where do you get this?

Found a copper coin

>>22162395
ive got a safe full of iron, brass and lead

>>22155751
My Pm stock plays have taken me from $3k to $10k, thanks to that schizo from a month ago.
Should I keep holding them or are there any fresh picks?

>>22162906
Only place I saw was apmex

Your memes suck. One is some ugly emaciated gook bitch for some reason and the other is a poorly shopped rip off of the free money merchant.

>>22162642
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE FUN WITH IRONIC MEMES! YOU HAVE TO BE 100% SERIOUS BUSINESS STORMFAGGOTRY 24/7

>>22163556
MAIFF
LGDTF
KNTNF
RIOFF
INCAF

>>22162632
Except the money does magically appear. The government has been handing out money like crazy to individuals that is "borrowed" from the Fed who literally MAKE IT OUT OF THIN AIR. Do you not understand how fiat fractional reserve banking works? Since the beginning of the year the Fed has purchased ONE THIRD of all the mortgage-backed securities in the US with money literally MADE OUT OF THIN AIR.

The price of food is rising because the barking mad response to the non-issue of COVID-19 smacked supply lines and forced farmer's to let their crops rot in the vine. Supply is down, so prices are rising. People are getting gibs from the government so prices have no incentive to go back down. People are taking out loans to buy houses at break-neck speeds to flee the cities. I live in CT and housing prices have ballooned to cartoonist proportions as New Yorkers flee the city by the hundreds of thousands.

What fucking world do you live in?

So... frens... instead of buying silver today I bought an insane amount of first aid supplies
I feel kinda stressed cuz I would rather have spent it on silver or stocks but... I feel like it might be a good idea
Did I do the right thing /pmg/?

can you buy gold etfs in replace of real gold?

>>22164008
no

>>22163064
Based. I found an old 1950s wheat penny
Several more copper ones as well because I was bored
And today I went to the bank and exchanged $50 worth of regular quarters into dimes so I can sort through them tomorrow
Quite looking forward to spending a good hour looking for silver ones
Any lesser known silver dimes besides 1964 and older ones?

>>22163873
What if you had to choose 2 to go all in?

>>22164062
why?

>>22163919
Shoulda bought chloroquine in February to sell at insane panic price markups to a World losing its shit during the following 2 months. If you bought good stuff like I did then you made a good call. If you bought band aids and peroxide like every other normie then not so much, but it'll be good to have around for personal use at least.

>>22164066
No, though you may get some later 1960s Canadian 80% and 50% silver mixed in US dimes occasionally.

Most people search 500.00 face boxes or customer rolls of half dollars for silver, I've also had luck pulling 35% war Nickels from nickel bags but halves are where you usually find the most silver.

>starting a lawn mowing business to I can get more money to buy silver bullion.

>>22164066
Sorry, sometimes fancy modern silver proof sets get broken up and cashed in, so rarely one may find a modern silver (like the 90% silver proof state quarters etc.) floating around.

>>22163879
This turn was on target to happen Wu Flu or not.

>>22164083

>Don't go all in on anything anon.

If you have too much cash, here is what I would do. (Roscan and Integra) are at good entry points. Those are buys.


I would also buy half positions in Rio2 and Liberty Gold with the intention to buy half positions in
Osino and Minera Alamos on more weakness.


I would buy a half position in Ascot, which could
break higher in good drill results. I would buy a half position in Alexco.
You should already own these stocks.
Rio2, Minera Alamos, Liberty Gold, Osino Resources and K92 Mining.

how come i never see anything sexy when anons post their eggs?

>>22156382
>Don't say China because they have more reserves than USD debts.
Yeah it won't be for a while. They'll be using up their reserves for a while. It's going to be helping the bread basket for a few years.

>Deflation from tighter lending standards
I shouldn't underestimate the American consoomers recklessness with debt, but my applications for credit have only been vaguely tighter. It seems like regulators are trying to force underwriting to be the same as 2019.

>>22156576
I think you're right, but for some, the goal is to cut pensions without actually cutting them.

>>22164488
Thanks, I don't actively trade. So probably need something I can buy and hold. I asked for two because I cba looking at 5-10 tickers everyday to see how they're doing.

>>22164066
There's the 1996-W, but the odds of getting one of those in 10 rolls are absolutely astronomical.

You might also find the 1982 missing mintmark that's worth a good bit of currency (again, doubtful, but you won't know until you look.

I did what Anon >>22164243 says and hunted half dollars. Did alright for about a year (3 rolls of 40%, and about a full roll of 90% all said and done), and when you do find silver, it's a much bigger chunk than a dime or quarter. It's not a guarantee, though, and I'd been on a pretty long skunk streak until the coof 'shortage' cut me off, so don't think you're going to find something every box, but absolutely massive dumps do still get found, even in the current year. Too many zombies dumping gramps's old coin collection for face.

>>22162324
Miners are turning green.

>>22162395
>for /pmg/ eyes only
Labrador iron ore royalty is probably better than clf - lifzf for us burgers. If you go in late X will probably be good, they opened up an iron mine. If X has taken off too much, then check NUE. Vale should be a good iron play as well, and NANR or PICK can give you broader exposure. These guys and the transport of iron will probably be huge for at least 10 years. We are likely to literally rebuild China. That's going to need a lot of iron and steel.

And we're back? If it drops I'm going to load up on K as per last night's thread.

>>22155751
What's her name?

>>22164689
If you take out the rolls from a bank can you re-roll and give them back or do you have to go to another bank?

>Miner stocks holding ground during market dip
What is this pattern called on THM?

>>22165475

>>22165325
You -can- give them back to the same bank, but it's a breach of CRH etiquette. It's much better to find another bank using a different armored car service, both to not piss off your pickup bank, and also to avoid getting back the same garbage you've already sorted through. Just be a decent human being, and things should be fine.

>>22165266
samu taganawa hide

>>22162395
>>22165111
I bought CLF immediately after this news broke. Definitely the kind of asshole I want in charge of my companies. No ragrets.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/you-are-a-disaster-cleveland-cliffs-ceo-berates-analyst-on-earnings-call-2018-10-19

>>22165475
>>22165102
I guess I celebrated too soon.

Anyone know where I can purchase silver rounds that look like picrel?

>>22164456
Yes, but the WuFlu definitely accelerated things. Good for us, extremely bad for normies.

I might be early, but I'm not wrong.

>>22165770
I imagine you are trolling but...

https://www.goldenstatemint.com/Cryptocurrency-Collection/

>>22163556
which plays were those?

>>22165873
Thanks! Not trolling, just going for maximum schizo to finish off my 100oz stack

>>22164066
Dude as someone who sorted dimes good fucking luck for every 500$ in dimes I would find 1-2 silver ones. You just crack the roll and look at the edges. Can sort a whole roll in 20 seconds that way. No idea how many you'd find now. You're better off going to a bank and buying the contents of their change sorter.

>>22165943
Based. Among other investments I have 445ozt silver, 1/2ozt gold, and 14k XRP

>>22164350
Good move anon. I'd like to take up some lawn mowing outside of my fulltime job

>>22160120
this is a forum for posting worthless silver crap

>>22165673
>samu taganawa hide
Is she not famous? Nothing comes up on that name.

Ok, basically all in now on miners.
Thanks for the dips but we can go up now.

Wtf bros I want them
Https://boldpreciousmetals.com/product/silver-5-oz-scottsdale-round-stacker/

>>22165600
So wouldn't I need two bank accounts to make that work or do they not require you to have an account to deposit/withdraw coins? Sorry I'm kind of stupid with this sort of thing

Assuming the dollar crashes and hyperinflation goes off, how long until silver/gold drop down to their current levels of affordability? Hundreds of years?

>>22165600
I received a visit from the police once for sorting half dollars. I had long hair and wore ripped up jeans a lot- I'd go buy 5-800$ in halves every weekend to sort, and Id always dump them at the same bank- which I banked at. (IHMVCU for those of you who are curious, why it's worth knowing in a second) - anyway, did this for months. Got a nice stack of silver clads & some 64s and franklins. Every time I dropped the bulk off there was this one lady who would just stare at me like I shit in her soup. I don't know who she was or why she hated me, maybe because I dressed like a slob, but so did most people in the area. One day a cop shows up
>anon want to ask you a few questions about a robbery
I have no idea what he's talking about - I work, keep to myself, and sort halves. Pretty autistic. Detective lets it slip that someone had their American Eagles stolen. Now it starts to click. The only people I had contact with when sorting halves was the bank- so the detective probably went asking around for anyone who was moving a lot of odd looking coins. The bank GAVE HIM MY FUCKING NAME FOR THE ACT OF SORTING CHANGE. Never had any similar issues with other banks afterwards as I continued my sorting for a few more years. But stay the fuck away from that credit union. Anyways, that's my sorting story.

>>22166378
when the population declines enough that demand drops off.

>>22166486
God, I fucking hate normies so much.

>>22162678
>5 oz of gold
>my lunar animal
fuck I wish, but I don't have 11k to drop right now.

>>22166486
>IHMVCU
damn fren you got all those halves but missed this dime, tsk tsk

>>22166486
I like getting rolls from the bank and dumping them on ebay for a 50% markup

>>22166767
I believe you mean whale

>>22166113
>he doesn’t know

whew no wonder the perth mint is blacklisted

>>22166956
kek
>https://www.bitchute.com/video/qH5T725nv8pL/

Anyone else in PureGold? They sat at $1.50 all summer but looks like they're waking up

>>22156576
There is significant risk of deflation as people hoard USD instead of keeping the money moving. That is why the FED is trying to boost inflation. Also keep in mind that while the USD is inflating due to the money printer so is the EURO, CAD, AUS bucks, etc. So it isn't about what USD is doing in a vacuum. It is about what the USD is doing relative to everyone else. And every one else is in a worse position. Which leaves investors with USD as the safe haven. This could come to a head tho when the crisis is "over" and people leave the USD for their local currency again. That would leave a quickly inflating USD.

Dump it.
Time to get more cheapies.

So since comex was a bust we'll be waiting for the election for any big moves, right?

>>22167356
deflation and inflation are bot good for gold.

Investors are waking up to the usd not being a safe haven, and PM's being the only port in the storm.

>>22167292
I'm intrigued. Might move some into them.

>>22167477
stocks up = silver down
stocks down = silver down

>>22167477
ya buy the dip, gold actually went UP in CAD, so likely this is more FOREX movement then a PM on.

>>22167590
Same thing happenend last march, but gold skyrocketed the following weeks.

ok...I'm done watching this bullshit. I''ll check back in next month

>>22167699
OH GOD IM GONNA SELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Fed is dumping. TIME FOR MORE CHEAPIES.

Continue the dumpe

TIME TO BUY MORE 1KG BARS

>>22155751
Just bought two days ago but I’m not even mad about this dip. I asked for more time to accumulate and I received it. Got a big job so I can catch up to some of you freaks.

I just bought another 20oz of silver

>>22167985
do you worry that we are buying at highs? I'm also buying since last month, up to 81oz of silver and 2.1oz of gold. But, so far all I've done is lost money.

I do feel like over the next 20 years or so it will be a good investment, as long as I keep buying monthly. i'm trying to get a grand worth each month.

>>22167992
>idiot

>circuit breakers on NASDAQ will soon be hit
>The Fed will flip the money printer even harder this time and Gold will blow past $2500

>>22167992
Based

>>22167985
That is a nice bum
Enjoy your discounted silver sir

>>22168046
You only lose money if you sell anon, we are no where near ATH in silver, let alone ATH that factor in inflation.

Been telling you for WEEKS now to

EXPECT

WHIPSAW

CRABBING


FFS just look at stonks right now, tech is crashing

>>22168046
>Buying at highs

Nigga, the USD didn't magically recover. We're still hurtling toward collapse. This shit ain't a PnD scam, it's long-term wealth preservation.

I bought a 1/2oz gold bar today. Gonna start buying 1/10 ozt every week until I hit 5ozt gold, then back to silver.

>>22166210
Oh no

>>22167590
The market is taking a fat dump and people are selling everything to cover their TSLA $520 fat loss margin calls. There were a lot of Meme players in the PM market, just think of all the people making snarky posts about buying TSLA naked calls to accumulate (which you know they didn’t, they used them to buy SLV), they are now dumping EVERYTHING, including their SLV and GLD, to cover their Yolo death buys.

What does /pmg/ think about Doug Casey? I think he is pretty baste

>>22168160
1/2 oz gold bar? which one anon, i never see fractional OZ bars, just gram ones.

>>22168208
I think he is an absolute nut job

>>22168160
Everything is deep red except for Meat futures and Utilities, all investments are worth less but your food and utilities now cost more.

Everything is fine................*stares at stack*..............oh wait it actually is.

>>22166907
>that's why he asked

>>22168405
Meat will soon do what lumber did. Expert Chaos.

>>22168046
Yea I’ve been buying since December 2016 my entire investment already has doubled. I haven’t sold, I’m in it for the long hall with no fear because silvers fundamentals are too strong to fail.

>>22168549
It was a sam hyde joke anon

Good Lord I am getting crushed today.

GDXJ
SILJ
SLV

pls help jerome

>>22168932
HAHA MONEY PRINTER GO
BBBBBBRRRRRRR

>>22168932
>lol

>>22169069
Oh okay good, my physical silver is doing better than ever it’s just that phony paper price acting up again.

>>22169201
The elites are playing games again

Lads where is the best place to buy silver in the UK? Don't want to get dabbed on by ridiculous VAT so what's a place I can order it and have it shipped cheaply?

>>22168385
APMEX has 1/10 bars and coins, 1/4 coins and rounds, and 1/2 rounds in stock.

It looks like I got their last 1/2 oz bar because I purchased it 3 hours ago and the listing is now showing "out of stock"

>>22168140
I'm not selling. Nice thing about physical also is that you can't impulse sell.

>>22168821
I've just been buying at ATH. When I buy, it goes down kek.

https://www.businessinsider.com/stock-market-outlook-reasons-not-in-bubble-according-to-datatrek-2020-9..
Oh..How this aged poorly

>>22169409
oh was it once of the pamp fortunas? those are really nice

Just dumped my green miners since it's going down the drain for the rest of the day. Not sure if I should buy back friday or monday for maximum gains

>>22169201
>physical

i've got physical too but 100% physical is stupid in my opinion

>>22169587
? sure you can, but i get what you mean, you need to actually drive somewhere during business hours, so the drunken sell at midnight is out of the question.

>>22169409
I bought a 1/10oz gold coin because I wanted it, but the premiums below 1oz were a lot higher if I recall.

I got another 20oz of silver since this photo was taken, and just ordered another 20oz on Monday.

$23 incoming

>>22169657
It feels more real also. Like paper gold and silver are a keystroke away from selling, versus gold you have to pick it up and sell it like you would sell a REAL asset.

>>22169689
Sadly i don't even think it will hit 25

>>22169010
I've been working on this. Anyone have any comments?

>>22169973
i'd bet my last hit of fentanyl that it hits $23 around September 10th.

>>22167943
>TIME TO BUY MORE 1KG BARS

Time to get more cheap kilos refined from scrap. Dips like this are awesome, my costs are so much lower than spot it doesn't matter, just allows me to get even more well-priced scrap silver per dollar.

Take the scrap pill anons... If you don't like silver, gold scrapping is probably even easier for a noob. My last half ounce of refined Au only cost 110, hard to go wrong if you're not stupid.

>>22169622
Bullish.
Anon, thank you for your sacrifice, you will be rembered.

>>22170006
hey anon. Do you or any others on here have a big pic of different coins from the sovereign mints throughout history?

>>22170045
Don't get me that turned on with teasing before I fall asleep

>>22159706
False sense of security, proxies are easy.

does anyone have occult knowledge on the symbolism behind coins and jewelry?

>>22170087
Any tips or resources for starters? I'm interesting. I have nothing but time right now.

>>22169663
I swear I had a dream about the batboi coin the other day.

>>22169973
If it drops this far I'm buying a high premium kilo coin I've had my eyes on..

Anyone pick up those monarch lil chunkies?

>>22170204
i was watching a few videos on some dude refining silver another doing gold
the real issue is always and will always be finding the scrap for the right price
process is simple and you can refine 40k worth of gold in less than a 48 hour process.
just stove top, vacuum chamber, 2 acids, beakers, the melting stuff, and a pump with hosing for the liquid with metal infused

what's going on, what did i miss?

>>22170204
someone (PanMan?) recommended this book

https://www.amazon.com/Refining-precious-metal-wastes-platinum/dp/B00072PNQ2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=hoke+refining+of&link_code=qs&qid=1598142890&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-1&tag=mozilla-20

>>22170382
>aqua regia process on a stovetop
kek
I guess at least you have a hood fan sorta
good luck selling your crack house

>>22170416
Big broadmarket dump. Appeared institutions getting into gold majors yesterday. Not sure what started the dump today. It might go on for the next week.

I already own silver but for shorter time gains i'm considering buying paper silver somewhere online. Is anyone else doing this and if so where?

>>22170545
I own PSLV, but Kitco offers a straight up buy/sell at spot prices while they hold it for you service.

/pol/ LARPer thats generating discussion
>>>/pol/275764019

>>22166363
Yeah, but in my experience, you don't need much more than the most basic account you can set up.Go for lowest/no fees when possible.

>>22170204
Yeah, spare time can definitely be used productively. I like refreshing the most recent Buy it Now listings on eBay for good deals, I'm experienced with lots of different antique silver items so know or accurately estimate the weight of many different items and yield from "weighted" sterling items, which are dangerous for noobs as much or most weight is plaster or resin under silver foil. Sterling silverware (dinner knives only have hollow/resin filled handles) is straightforward, same with jewelry without stones, plates, etc. For a noob it's best to look for listings where they give the weight but also have it very underpriced out of ignorance (~30 bucks for 3-5 ounce item deals are relatively common, full silverware chests for a few hundred less common but extremely lucrative). For obviously underpriced non-weighted sterling it's simply a matter of being among the first to see the listings and buy ASAP before another scrapper finds it.

>>22169274
Give name, I want to be insider too. Is it hossa?

>>22170748
Forgive me for my ignorance but I can't tell if you are asking for the name of the game or just making a joke so I will give you the name of the game, stock ticker

>>22170087
So I can just buy scrap gold and silver and make my own meme coins and bars at home? I got some stuff for casting bullets already. That sounds like a fun hobby.

>>22169973
There may be a large dip soon due to stocks getting absolutely fucked since tech bubble is popping. It would more be people liquidating then anything, so akin to march when it was 12s but you could barely buy any, and premiums will probably prevent the price from going too low.

Interesting times.

>>22170382
yeah it is easy, but getting scrap gold is the hard part.

I try to get it all the time anon but rarely do, I dont even have to refine it, i can get 96% of melt for a 25$ feel to smelt it.

Where you getting scrap gold/silver for cheap? Outside of starting my own I BUY GOLD HIGHEST PRICES business I am not really sure how I can get more supply.

>>22170942
Sure you can, though I get it processed and returned by a legit refinery as market-ready bullion. Total costs are still under 20/Ozt doing that, however I've also stacked up like 20kg of very high quality antique sterling items worth much more as scarce collectibles or quality jewelry than bullion, so don't go melting indiscriminately, you can re-sell the good stuff and get even more silver with the proceeds if you want.

I've got a cheap electric metals furnace and have played around with sterling (and bronze), goal is to make badass silver knuckles based off a quality and aesthetic antique brass knuckles I've got, solid silver daggers (or bladed knuckles) would be sweet too, but I'm still figuring out how to cast things properly currently.

>>22169609
"1/2ozt secondary market bars"

Can some line drawer tell me what the range for the short term "bottom" is, I'd like to get some more shinies.

>>22171828
$1910 for gold, $26 for silver.

I hope the stock market crashes and burns.

>>22170187
That particular image is the Demiurge, an ancient Gnostic Christian symbol. Contrary to popular belief, Gnosticism predates all modern Churches including Orthodoxy and Catholicism

>>22171885
>Didn't read the filename

Now I feel dumb.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY MINING STOCKSSSS

>>22171764
take a pic and let us know anon... I rarely see fractional OZ bars interested to see what you get.

I actually like grabbing the assorted bars/rounds... nice to get a suprise sometimes.

>>22155947
So people are still posting that the comex is going to default, but then whenever nothing happens (like those september deliveries) and newfags start asking >hey, what about that comex default that was supposed to happen?
Every smug anon will pile on them that it was all just a big inside joke, that we all knew it was just a meme, "surely nobody here was silly enough to believe that!", etc. etc.

So we have waves where everyone is calling for it, planning for it, treating it like gospel. And then we have waves where everyone always knew it was a nothingburger. And I have never seen these waves interact with one another, which is what convinces me that it is bullshit. For several days straight the consensus will shift to "nothing will ever happen" and nobody has any response, no youtube talking heads, no nothing. Also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1UJhwOEOWM

this coin is so sexy, can't resist, boys, gonna pull the trigger

>>22172125
Absolutely. I owe /pmg/ a family photo anyway.

>>22172164
no one piles on anybody, you demoralizing shill
yes, the (((bankers))) managed to get some more time, but if you are really not seeing that it is all falling apart then all more power to you.
we believe otherwise, this thread is the comfiest of all /biz/, people are nice to each other, people give advice, so fuck off with your toxic evil lies.

i see you already deleted "learn hebrew" video from that yt channel, huh? go to hell, kike

>>22172164
PMG isnt one person, some people think it will collapse, others do not.

I personally wouldnt bet on it collapsing, even if every single option stood for delivery, they just settle in fiat.

Wont matter, PMs will preserve if not increase purchasing power through what is to come.

>>22172431
Oh snap!

>good news:
pm down
>bad news:
pm down
>stocks up:
pm down
>stocks down:
pm down
>rates up:
pm down
>rates down:
pm down
>fiat up:
pm down
>fiat down:
pm down

Face it, your shiny rocks were actually the biggest bubble of all because you are the most deluded and irrational speculators of all pinning your hopes on conspiracy theories proving true!

>>22172095
I sold earlier I hope they all tank 10% at least so I can scoop tomorrow

>>22172822
6/10

>>22172431
take your meds scitzo, I'm a poorfag stacker like plenty of the other guys on here and I'm just mad that I had a miserable time for the last 2 months stacking as much metal, food, water as I possibly could, because every 3rd post on PMG was saying fiat would collapse in september starting with comex force majeur. It was being posted rampantly and without many people speaking moderation or suggesting why that wouldn't actually happen. So yeah I'm rustled that now most people are smugly acting like we all knew it was just a fairy tail.

I don't regret all the metal I've stacked this year whatsoever, but like I complained about a few days ago, it's retarded that I could have had more metal now if I had just bought TSLA in march and cashed out today.

>deleted "learn hebrew" from that yt channel

that's pretty kek not gonna lie. If that channel is actually a kike trick then maybe there is still hope

>>22172175
So what is it

>>22166956
>whew no wonder the perth mint is blacklisted
what do you mean?

>>22172905
>angry that you stacked pm, built an emergency food supply, and robust security for yourself and your family

It could be much worse..

>>22172822
>pms down

>>22169663
https://gematriaeffect.news/samoan-fruit-bat-will-be-featured-on-quarters-released-by-us-mint-january-12-2020-news-february-3-release/

>>22173040
you're right, the end result is a good position to be in. I just could have done without the sleepless nights and existential terror along the way.

>>22171948
check this out and learn what i learned about Gnosis

>>22173098
Gold to 1600
Silver to 16

>>22173098
>lower highs

Keep buying the rocks

>>22173098
Looks like bull flag

>>22173256
>Keep buying the rocks

I will, thanks!

>>22173213
You don’t seriously expect that to happen though do you. Worst comes to worst we go down to 1800, or even 1709

>>22173213
Woops

>or even 1700* at worst before bouncing back to the 1900s. Nothing lower than this is realistic, even if you’re skeptical on PMs.

>>22173360
I fully expect gold to be 1100 by EOY 2021 and 1600 by EOY 2020 thanks to the Trump vaccine.

>>22172822
>up 20% on the month

>up 60% in two months

REEEE WE WENT DOWN 2% TODAY WHY ARE YOU NOT SELLLLINNGGGGGG

>>22173417
Gold is down on the month lol

>>22172822
silver is the best performing asset of 2020, but good try nonetheless

>>22173465
Because it’s pumped and will dump, dummy. Who is gonna buy your coins when Covid goes away?

>>22173417
>>22173446
Yeah technically he’s right. But we have a long way yet to go down before anyone can realistically suggest that PMs are just another shitcoin and we got rugpulled.

Anything’s possible I suppose, but personally I won’t be panicking unless we go under 1750.

>>22172164

The concern trolling would look more genuinely like demoralized weak hands if said trolls could stay in character. But they fuck up constantly such that it is very clearly inorganic fud'ing.

Doesn't matter how many IP swaps you do, fren.

>>22172905
are you blaming the collective hivemind for being a little off?
you western fucks got so soft it's incredible, you got soft and weak. nature has only one price for weakness.
you are bitching on the imageboard that anons didn't tell you to buy tesla because it pumped so hard. it's hindsight thinking.

metals are a hedge. a bet. bets do not pay off 100% of the time. but just have some patience, look around, not today, not in september, but it's falling apart.
i don't want to be rude to you, you are probably young, just stay focused. what's the worst case? you still have all the PMs that you saved up, it's better than just wasting it on dumb shit, and we are all very good at wasting money.

>>22172905
Im right in the same wagon as you. I hate all of these mother fuckers. On the one hand, the panic is forcing me to prep which i am passionate about anyway. I prep food, water, guns, ammo. I grew up mormon so its how i was raised.

On the other hand these god damn mother fuckers are toxic. Everywhere you go its just a mess of noise and panic retards.

For example corona. In January it was pretty reasonable to think it was going to be a devastating event. I stocked food guns and ammo. Turned out to be a nig fucking nothing.

Now this silver comex thing. Still has tine to play out. I stacked about 100 oz though so now i have a good financial collapse prep.

Thwen the chainlink crypto thing. I mean its every fucking day of " ITS GONNA CRASH!1!!" or "ITS GUNNA PUMP" like jesus Christ. And then, when they actually have the smart con conference theres retards posting "nigger" and pictures of shitting assholes in the chat. Its like damn you guys are all fucking retarded and all you do is just drag everything down into shit. You cant even resist shitting on your own shit.

Meanwhile, the elites and whales who only exist because they "have things" they have the money the wealth the assest, often times through no fault of their own, just luck, are orchestrating the whole god damn thing and just making more and more wealth from it.

Where are normal sane people supposed to go? How are we supposed to accumulate wealth in a reasonable manner. Fuck. Everything is against us and everything is rigged.

>>22172961
ARCHANGEL MICHAEL Shade of Enigma 1 Oz Silver Coin 1 Hryvnia Ukraine 2017

it's so damn beautiful, i can get it pretty cheap straight from ukraine (my m80 hohol lives there), well, for 70$, but it's 140$ on ebay