/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22151613
First for never letting there be 0 /smg/ in the catalog again ever

I sold TQQQ at close yesterday and bought SQQQ. Woke up to pain. Last time I try and call the top. Just gonna ride this shit forever.

>>22151613
Put CCL in your portfolios. You don't have much more time.

Tbh I'm getting a little nervous

>When you sell TSLA at the top

>>22151683
>tfw you bought 5 at 480

>>22151613
First for anime girls.

>>22151676
someone doesn't know when to take gains OR cut losses

Tesla gonna rocket again eow

RKT is going to go up tomorrow rrr...right guys?

>>22151754
No.
>>22151789
And no.

>>22151244
desu i'm considering never touching options again. predicting the top is a fools game but i'm doing it anyway
>shiller PE reaching 2017 highs
>AAPL is up 100% yoy. Sales only up 10%. even with QE that's some funky math
>still stupidly high unemployment
>everyone acting like corona going away but its only getting worse
>haven't seen a pink wojack in months
>FED is pumping money for the election and will pull the rug sometime in the next 4 months

>>22151739
So what do

>>22151906
Start using stop losses on the risky shit you trade. No reason to be down 25% on ibio. Same with Eman, great gains and kudos for getting in early enough to pull that off but you should've just dumped it 15 to 20 cents ago because you're trading volatile meme stocks.

Bro's why can't I just make it financially? I don't want to be a wagecuck ever again. I don't like how most of them treat me or that feeling of feeling like most of my waking life on weekdays is revolving around making money for someone else where I get small change and deal with office politics because of a bunch of people who can't keep their nose out of other people's lives.

I have like 80k in my portfolio if I were to liquidate my entire account. What moves can I make with that to make it?

>>22152086
Have you tried using your brain?

>>22151887
>>haven't seen a pink wojack in months
Then you aren't actively here. I saw 50 today alone. I've seen 50 every day that tesla has gapped down in the last 4 weeks.

>>22151613
GME chads, i'm going to sleep tonight but tomorrow is only the beginning. Short volume today was high, i can't believe retards are still fueling the squeeze. Fuel for next week.

>>22152143
I bought a whole bunch of GME, then sold covered calls. Basically I win no matter what :)

I got a hundred bucks to dump. Shill me on something promising

>>22151666
>those digits

>>22151613
BASED DITMLCSMMCHAD

Guys what if AAPL fails?

No one can predict crashes. In life shit really happens unexpectedly. Some ‘tard at work today was bragging about getting Apple stock and it made me have a freak out moment like in The Big Short when the stripper tells him she owned three houses.

>>22152227

>>22152259
stock might fall, company wont fail or come close to failing. 200,000,000,000 in cash reserves, year over year revenue increases, cult following, literally apple isnt going anywhere.

>>22151683
My poor FNGU

>>22152259
apple would be the last company on earth to fail. it might go down a bit or have a slump... but not likely

theres more chance of a nuclear holocaust or ice age

>>22151683

>>22152172
Then it goes to 50 and you could've retired.

Are long dated QQQ calls truly free money? I never fuck with options but im up 80% on stonk this year and it seems like it would be simple 3 months old hold for just a bit and sell

>>22152418
Unless there is another dot-com bust, yes.

>>22151666
Satan confirms doombull

Bought TSLA calls yesterday at the dip, will i make it tomorrow bros?

>>22152458
I gotta just bite the bullet and get into that shit I think

>>22152411
I don't bet on lotto tickets. Now I sell lotto tickets.

>>22152464
but futures are saying otherwise anon

>>22152483
The NASDAQ took 15+ years to recover from the dot-com bust. Granted if that happens again it will probably recover a lot faster from the dip buyers and money printer.

>>22152259
apple will be around in 1000 years as religion

>>22151613
Hey /smg/ just got done wage cucking and wanted to remind you to buy WMT.

>>22152528

Is MSFT overbought or is it just inflation already showing up?

>>22151887
Fuck are you talking about, rona isnt getting worse

>>22152116
No bully pls i want to escape

>>22152505
Futures don't define the destiny of chads like GME

>>22152584
A lot of Microsofts future depends on tik tok. If they land it microsoft will moon.

I am balls deep into Tech and really should diversify but honestly nothing else performs nearly as well. Tech is the only sector that's actually innovating right now and I really don't see that changing in the near future, if ever.

Anyone else in the same boat?

>>22152526
The NASDAQ also went from 2000 to 5000 points over the course of 14 months. That's also without a random black swan event causing it to dip 30% in the first place.

In comparison, we were at 8k on the NASDAQ one year ago. We're up 50% in one year pretty much. In 2016-2018 the NASDAQ saw similar 30%+ returns in a year and that was no bubble - just a regular bull market. Tech is going to be fine.

You kids just wait till TSLA finally get listed on the sp500, and all the Boomerfolio hedgefund algos are required to auto buy equaling trillions funneling into the stock.

>>22152086
Put most of your money into safe stocks, then keep a chunk for options. With 80k as long as you don't reckless, you can make it without having to wage cuck.

>>22152642
Same. Anything else feels volatile. Even if Boomers tell me the opposite is true.

>>22152086
Dump 40k (50% of folio) on QQQ calls dated 3-6 months out then sell them once they're slightly ITM. Repeat with 50% of your folio.

The other 50%? Use 30% on SPY calls during tech-heavy and S&P weak days (sector rotations usually) then use the other 20% on regular shares of something you believe in, like Apple.

>>22152637
okay GME chad, how far out are you looking for this short squeeze? any dates of consequence besides earnings next week?

>>22152718
That is the most aggressive strategy you could make for his portfolio. If the market dumps he will lose 80% of his portfolio and most definitely have to wage cuck.

>>22152408
WeBull seems to attract a certain type of hyper-delusional speculator that is different from your regular Robinhood trader.

>some of you didn’t go all in on Amazon when quarantine hit

I just got into trading, what’s your excuse?

>>22152642
Most of the market is like that
My personal view is the only things that at going to succeed are remote things (deliveries, remote working, remote schooling, home entertainment)
At least until a vaccine (whether efficacious or not) becomes mainstream and/or restrictions end

>>22152638
??? Tik tok would be like .01% of their shit, it literally doesnt matter. If they get it, the stock might get a quick little bump. If they dont get it, the stock will keep slowly climbing

>>22152408
Danny is the only smart one.

>>22152768
I bet against America

>>22152788
That's just what analysts are saying, but it doesn't matter because walmart is going to land it.

>>22152642
>nothing else performs nearly as well.
Have noticed that. Some of them take days to go up 2 dollars only to lose the full 2 dollars in a single day all while being a sub $30 stock.

Have noticed a weird pattern in one where volume is mostly the same day over day but it kept going up on no news. Ended up dumping like 20% over a week or two only to gain a decent chunk back today....on no news and slightly higher volume.

Suspicious that a lot of these stocks are moving slowly up to trick people into buying and then a sudden rugpull before the big firms buy back in.

>>22152465
dude today was the BIG dip, whats your BE?

>>22152811
Lol same, and I became a true patriot because of it

>>22152788
>literally doesnt matter
Explain why they pumped like 15 dollars off of it when the news came out. Nearly 10% of the stocks value.

>>22152834
That basically should tell you to keep tight trailing stops because eventually the bottom is gonna fall out. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next week, buy sometime soon.

>>22152745
We're in a momentum based, once-in-a-generation type of market right now. You either make it, or you don't. Going long on tech isn't a bad idea honestly. If the market dumps (like it did in March), tech will be the first to recover. And if the market dumps that hard, he most likely won't even have a job to wage cuck at anyways.

>>22152788
Where does their money come from besides Xboxes, OS sales, and enterprise software (with office and arguably visual studio being their only best-of-breed software) and are sales matching the stock rise?
Because most if what MSFT does is an inferior copy of something else

>>22152834
Are you talking about companies like Datadog/Fastly which are unanimously agreed upon to having over-valuations? Because if so, then yeah, don't touch those. The main drivers of QQQ (FAGMAN) are solid.

>>22152874
Fair point. I got out of tech for a moment, gonna wait a week or so until the dust settles. If I miss out on gains, oh well. Although I am very tempted to buy long call options on qqq. You have any good option ideas (date, premium, and price)?

Buy CLF

>>22152924
Holy fuck anon, I'm half tempted to follow you because if you're wrong, at the very least I'll get to laugh at you getting liquidated to soothe my wounds.

>>22152642
TINA - There Is No Alternative

>>22152918
Nothing retard mode like $400, anything 1.5-3% OTM will still return 30-60% on initial if it ever gets near ATM or becomes ITM. And with the market as is right now, it's really not hard to catch a 1% swing on QQQ (ie a dip like today morning by setting a low limit buy) then selling the recovery (or holding overnight/over the weekend since we've been opening green on Mondays the past what, 8 of 9 sessions?)

Always long dated, at least 2 month out to be safe so you don't get fucked by a mid-month correction like July.

September is historically a volatile month so maybe play it safe and grab 0.5-1% OTM calls instead of 1%-3% OTM.

My personal play for people w/o too much capital right now would be 11/20 $305 or 310c.

>>22153023
Half your money in amazon half in walmart is the only reasonable alternative.

>>22152259
Think of it like this Anon. If Appl or some other company that big fails we have a lot of other shit to worry about

>>22153041
Thanks for the info anon. Those are reasonably priced. I'm very seriously considering buying a few of those calls

So can someone explain to me what shithead ruined RKT after-hours, especially given how that earnings call went?

>>22151789
it will go up. new investors want in this great ER and traders want to take advantage on the upside potential.

>>22153122
My assumption is people took profits because of the rather ridiculous run up of an ipo's first quarter. It will probably continue to run up, but you can't blame people for taking profits.

>>22152465
me 2 brother, we are in this together

>>22153041
Can I get your opinion? new to options and I followed someone’s advice on monthly SPY calls. Pic related, $359 Call I bought on Monday, already up 125% . When would you personally Sell and take profits? What are you indicators to sell and buy a new position?

>>22152768
Because I'm not playing with only 2k.

>>22153057
just 2 stocks is too risky for me. I'm pretty much half s&p, half large cap growth. My meme rh account is tqqq soxl fngu.

Do the futures mean we are fucked tomorrow?

>>22153091
I disagree
Xerox, Motorola, eBay all used to be tech giants but they either screwed up (Xerox cooked the books) or were mismanaged (ebay) or just became largely irrelevant
Even if a company avoids all those things they can still make an acquisition that turns out to be mostly debt (in a nondisclosure sneaky way that "should be illegal but technically isn't")
Too big to fail really isn't true (even ultimately for the companies and banks the phrase was used on)

>>22151676
would I be actually retarded for a 2022 NIO ITM LEAP?

>>22153150
yeah, fair enough. Just pissed me off because I only got back in the game this week and bought Monday in anticipation of a good earnings report and open up at 4:09 to see it down so much

anyone fap without porn? trying to wane off masturbating but my sex drive is too high. can go 3 days and then feel myself imploding. i don't believe in nofap, its just the only "vice" i cant seem to get under control.

also buy QQQ

>>22153194
Since expiration is 9/30, you still have a healthy 3 weeks for this to go ITM. The leverage starts to wear out the more you go ITM (so for your case, it would be around $362) but since 3600 will be a strong resistance point, I would personally sell this position whenever SPY hits 359.50~360 (especially if it gaps up to 360 overnight) then rebuy a 10/16 position slightly further OTM at $363~$365 with the same equity. I say sell it if it gaps up because we've seen a lot of big gap up openers that dump into 10-11AM and a quick recovery after. That's usually where you can really get some cheap options (and also sell really expensive ones right on open.)

>>22153211
Not really too risky. Amazon and walmart aren't going anywhere and walmart has walmart+ launching on the 15th. Plus they also have the possibility of acquiring tik tok. Very low risk.

>>22152768
Didn't realize that "this time was different" when we corrected so fast

>>22152116
hey how hard is it to just be a fren?

>>22153194
Also, congratulations. It's amazing how a slow moving boomer index when played right, with options, can net you a whopping 125% return in a single week, granted you ride a proper momentum wave. I think people often forget that options are designed to give you leveraged returns even on 'low volatility' things like index funds.

>>22153234
>only "vice" i cant seem to get under control
This or me too, though for the Nofap thing, I will say my skin clears up, I sleep less and can wake up easier, and I do genuinely feel better when I go for a few days without fapping, so maybe it's not all bullshit.

>>22153234
If you don't masturbate your body will still dump old nonviable sperm via nocturnal emissions
Celibacy is a biological impracticality

>>22153194
I wish I had enough cash to buy options like this. Every fucking time...

>>22153234
Yes, there is this sexy cutie I'm talking to at work that I almost spring a stuffy just talking to her. She reminds me of harley quinn, but that also includes the fact she is fucking crazy, but I know she would be a minx in bed.

>Looks at 1d candles
>NDAQ overbought and touched 1SD above mean line
>QQQ Severely overbought and above 1 SD line
>SPY/SPX severely overbought and nearly to 2 SD line
>$DJI overbought and above 1SD line

Literally playing Russian roulette if you're still in the market right now.

>>22153288
Those are all stress related, nofap is just your temporary inadequate way to feel like you're taking control of the things that are actually bothering you (but you aren't)

the green line really and truly is going up forever isn't it

ROCKET MOONING TOMORROW ARE YOU READY I'M READY NOTHING CAN STOP THE ROCKET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>22153369
Let's just put it this way, if it goes down, it won't stay down for long.

>>22153307
Get a job bro

>>22153361
That's why I'm currently 6k deep on WMT. Sticking to boomer stocks at the moment.

>>22153361
STFU BOBO. It won't crash September big dick Donald wouldnt risk it falling because then itll hurt his re election chance. If it does fall before election it will be October or November. September is the last safe month

>>22152867
The one I mentioned I jumped out at a 50% gain. Suspicious that the big firms are lilely toying with retail to fomo and fud them out for easy pickings.

>>22152914
Nope not even something popular but something i wanted long term but ended up selling after it hit about a 50% gain. Noticed it in various industries that dont get that level of attention.

>>22153369
In that humanity will continue to increase the rate at which it turns inert "stuff" (energy/matter) into things people want
Aka PROGRESS

i sold
im fucking out

>>22153438
Were you red or are you predicting a market crash?

>>22153419
It really comes down to how many new customers can companies acquire. Stocks like apple will always have their loyalists but can they continue to increase revenue without pulling people away from android devices?

>>22153438
i sold
so i can buy
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>>22153287
Thanks fren, I’ll follow your lead and I screencapped this advice to keep it in mind moving forward. SPY has moved up a steady ~$10 every month since the crash apart from June, seemed like a good bet. I like that it’s a boomer index too desu, the low volatility doesn’t make me feel like I’m rolling on a craps table and it seems like a good way to grow my small amount of capital.

>>22153307
you can find $300 to play with anon, it’s worth scraping together and I believe in you

>>22153487
This anon is drunk

>>22151738
Halfway through Gabriel Dropout, really liking it desu.
Not liking these futures though

>>22153400
Facts.

>>22153497
how OTM do you buy em per month? 4-5%? i usually only do options with QQQ but wouldnt mind a boomer stock to hedge

>>22153471
I like the iPhone os better than androids but everything else they make is hot garbage.

>>22153551
Its my first SPY call and I didn’t go by a percentage, I just chose $10 higher than the underlying at the time which was $349

>>22153580
>enjoys the single worst part of a bad product
NGMI

>>22153400
Just because it won't crash doesn't mean there won't be a correction. There's always a correction after the rate a growth we've seen these last few weeks.

>>22153580
>Be anesthetist
>Wear mask in operating room all day so face unlock doesn't work
Fuck that. Android getting rid of the fingerprint sensors too and the onscreen ones are trash. Why are we going backwards in technology?

>>22151676
Meme: The Portfolio

>>22153645
Your first mistake was being a wagie.

>>22153708
Not all of us were blessed with the NEET lifestyle anon.

GME is a tenbagger.

>>22153645
You’re the guy who gives dilaudid and the crazy ass shit? Well I’m in a 12 step program so you can’t catch me. HAA!

>>22153620
Buy the dip :)

>>22153599
cool, sounds reasonable. SPY seems safe. be glad you didnt do some meme QQQ LEAP like i did

>>22153708
I don't care I get paid a lot of money to put into stonks
>>22153809
And stuff even stronger than dilaudid. Don't be a drug addict anon

>>22153761
Anoint yourself and achieve freedom.

>>22153871
I think he means not everyone has a family they can mooch off of and live rent free.

>>22151683
nothing makes me clinch my anus like holding Tesla, and I'm still up 25%.

>>22153871
I'm working on it. I only need about 80k to be able to trade full time. If I didn't have to liquidate my portfolio to buy my house I would already be there. But every NEET needs a cave to rest in doesn't he?

Sage

>>22153862
I don’t use anymore silly. It’s like magic.

>>22151613
uhoh BA holders

>$18,000 invested over the summer
>only up $500
>will probably lose everything in the inevitable crash

>>22153986
oh nononononononononono.

>>22152768
>brags about 100% gainz in Amazon
If you're so smart, you could have been up 10,000% on the money you put at risk.

>>22154006
>Less than 3% return
holy shit man my portfolio moved double that this afternoon,, what are you in?

>>22153041
Why not a TQQQ call ITM?

its fucking over. pack your bags and hedge short everything bros

>>22154052
Trading leveraged index funds via options is like 100x leverage. That's shitcoin tier investing.

>>22154063
Oh shit. We're gonna blow through DXY 93 tomorrow aren't we?
This is all on you Brrrrrr meme fucks.
You forced this meme to all the normies and now we're going to have great depression 2.0.

>>22153986
Do they need that many janitors?

>>22154006
So far you are beating the average investor.

>>22154084
Yeah, I guess with TQQQ being triple leveraged it would be pretty wild. I am just exploring options trading. Not buying yet but just playing with the numbers and costs. I want my first option to be comfy.

I am not looking to make WSB style options trades, but I have been looking at AAPL and NIO LEAPs. Are these pretty solid investments? AAPL I expect would be, NIO has some pretty high 12 month expectations and a 2022 contract sounds pretty appealing with those numbers with all the time to grow into them. 2022 AAPL are a little pricey for my taste

>>22153498
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Reading all these salty peoples comments on yahoo finance for SPY is just too funny. Literally on Monday they were all posting clown shit like ITS GONNA CRASH and its gonna hit 360 tmw.. sad.. fucking yahoo and stocktwits that shits all bears I swear.. and retards of course

>>22153925
What strategy are you using where 80k means you dont need a job? Is it risky?

>>22153986
A 20% increase from zero is still zero.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SO CLOSE
GIVE THE DXY YOUR ENERGY TO CRASH THE MARKET BROS

>>22153839
Lolol except I have almost the same call. And being up 63% is awesome, I can’t imagine being a boomer thinking 7% a year is acceptable.

>>22154006
>he didn’t invest in t. fagman
laughing_sluts.jpg

>>22154355
60k in moderate risk stocks, 20k in options. I could easily make a modest living under that strategy.

>>22153839
Forgot pic

>futures

>>22154394
>60k in moderate risk stocks
So how does that make you enough money?

>20k in options
What kind of strategy long dated buy calls? In the money or out of the money, how much om either? Trying to escape wagecuckery and hopefully retire myself and family.

>93.00 broken
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welcome to the /bear/market bros. hope you brought kneepads

>>22154426
cant wait to buy more cheapy calls at open

Buying January GME calls at open.

>>22154144
probably just the taste of whats about to come following up to the us election

>>22154443
Well everyone's financial wants and needs are different, but I could live comfortably for 3k a month. With 20k options money particularly dedicated to index options, that gives you plenty of wiggle room to be a wrong a couple of times. I'd you use that 60k for moderately risked growth stocks that should allow you to make enough to take profits and reinvest. All of this also depends on the market climate as well.

>>22154232
Hahaha you sound like the biggest faggot. You aren’t going to make it.

>>22154563
Oh okay thx anon

>>22154394
Moderate risk is gay. 80% into MSFT 20% into highly leveraged high risk bets.

>>22154678
Why would I ever put my money into microsoft when I can buy a Chad stock like walmart?

if we don’t do a 6% drop tomorrow i’d be super surprised

>>22154714
Ideally you'd put it in bonds and bluechips, but aha Fed says risk assets only. WMT is fine too.

>>22154726
Hedges are busy surfing the herd. Why would anybody with price control drop shit when people are willing to bid it up?

>>22154764
I figure walmart is the only company that has a chance against amazon. You have to have at least a small position in them.

>>22154714
Is Walmart not in direct competition with amazon?
why would one buy Walmart instead?
Besides hating Besos?

>>22154810
institutions are going to take profits from you retards by the end of the week, i’ve got puts on everything

WKHS is going up tomorrow. Buy calls

>>22154479
Woaaaa that anon pump the breaks

Has to break and hold it above that descending Chanel

It could hump the 93 area for a while before either diving back down

(Line go up ooooooo)

Or it could take off and close well above the trend line

Line go down AAAAAAA

>>22154875
Check you fire, I'm a friendly.

>>22154063
Yeah that rsi divergence is...concerning

>>22152209
RTX

>>22154853
Yes walmart is in direct competition and Amazon is beating then in most categories, but here is why walmart isn't out.


1. Walmart stores act as both warehouse and shopping center, something Amazon doesn't have.

2. Walmart+ launches in on September 15th. It has the same shipping promises that Amazon has for 20% less.

2. Walmart plus also offers free grocery delivery.

3. Walmart plus also offers the ability to scan your groceries via smartphone and pay in the same manner this avoiding the checkout lines all together.

4. Walmart beats amazons prices 10 out of 10 times.

>>22155009
please elaborate, what is rsi divergence

>>22155036
Rsi continues to go up from peak to peak

However price keeps going down from peak to peak

Shows there is some probability of a break out. Could go way up in price to match the rsi trend or could go way down on the rsi to match the price trend.

>>22155036
Nothing because they're looking at the DXY and all of the extraordinarily complicated processes underlying it, including but not limited to foreign policy, repo markets, forex patterns driven by traders and institutions, bonds, and so on.

>GME
/biz/ was right for once

not worth going in on it now tho?

>>22155104
Yeah except the rest of the chart posted the price action roughly matches us.

When they stop matching up something isn’t working as it should, due to all the complex mechanisms you mentioned, it will correct via price or rsi.

>>22155139
Oh, cool a 50/50.

Why is my boomer brokerage telling me tqqq is a etf not meant to be held like its fucking tvix when it’s been steadily returning since its inception????

>>22155189
Well let’s look at some other stuff

Everything on the moon

Vix is up as 2/3 major markets hit ath

Spy gapped up

Probably will be corrected with price to match rsi and things will take a bit of a dump, how much who knows

Oh look futures are already down a cunt hair as the DXY even breathes on a break out from trend.

It’s what’s been working for me and I’m sharing. What’s your take on shit or is it “Kek line go up”

>>22155239
default copy paste text for any leveraged etf

>>22155022
Thanks anon, here's a pic of my bees.

how do i recover from a 41% loss

What's your favourite Excel formula?

what will the next stock split be :^)

>>22155416
all in TSLA

>>22155282
Bees are the future. Saved.

>>22155120
Naw fuck that. The five year for GME shows this is just a flash in the pan.

>>22155416
Buy bluechip and chill the fuck out.

>>22155416
OTM $130 puts on ZM 4 months out.

So, why is everyone thinking there's going to be a market collapse tomorrow?

Is it because the big tesla bubble popped some?

They're shilling a vaccine for early November right before the election.

It'll be a massive green day for non tech. Tech may get some scraps

The only FAANG stock I have is Apple, even if it drops it will eventually recover.

how do i recover from a 99.9% loss???

Can Someone tell me some good pm stocks plays?
Last time a pm schizo gave silver miner predictions I’m up from $4k to $10k now.
Do I still hold them or are there something better out there?

>>22155541
all in TSLA

>>22155541
Buy a scratch off with the 0.1% remaining

>>22152924
Hell yeah LG is taking us to the moon on an hbi powered rocket

>>22155248
A vast majority of the way up from trough was done through AH and PM trading, with most days trading +/-1%, and index gaps are difficult to deal with due to their nature as an index. I've seen plenty of floating islands out there that haven't corrected, much to my dismay. I've also watched futures trade negative through the night and watched another green day emerge. I've seen VIX spike repeatedly and watched the market do nothing in reaction to it but trade higher. DXY down or up, I've watched the market diverge against logic.

All I'm saying, is that all these technicals don't really mean anything until they mean anything. There are a lot of severe issues that have emerged from this crisis, and the current market conditions and the ATH they're pushing are among them. Alongside of trillions of dollars of cashflow freezing for a month, the debt market is insane right now. The Fed's reaction may have gone too far. The Keynsian ideals are going to be tested in their full light. Maybe it's now, and maybe it's months away for all this shit to precipitate. But so far they're doing a good job of maintaining the illusion they're in control it seems.

>>22155555
BTG is one of the most solid right now. Check it out for yourself before you buy.

SRNE needs to hurry up and recover.

>>22155598
Some dumbasses really think VIX = bear
when it's actually VIX = volatility

>>22155530
The multi-day rise in VIX is pretty spooky, the market, particularly the 'daq feels brittle. The vaccine isn't even half-baked it's quarter-baked, Moderna started enrollment on 7/27 ffs. That being said I hope the day of the value investor is coming, I don't think we'll crash tomorrow but it might be a spooky halloween
>>22155282
Cuties! U gonna extract the supers soon?

>>22155644
Can we pretend I'm retarded and get spoonfed?

Can i get a rundown on VIX?

Greetings and Sagittarius fellow autists tomorrow I will be purchasing 200 SPY 6/18/21 $525 calls @ $0.25 each. That is all.

Market was due for a correction. Rising VIX with a rising market is a pretty big red flag that you should get ready to jump ship for a while. We'll recover by next week though. More TQQQ cheapies to grab tomorrow or Friday.

>>22155457
>basing anything on previous year charts
Lol holy fuck are u for real. This level of momentum and short interest ia unprecendented.

Help GME chads. I cant fucking sleep because im too excited. I came in thinking it's an easy 10x just swingtrading. Now im starting to get way ahead of myself thinking of $100 per share. I'll

>>22155724
>correction
>we'll recover by next week

Do you know the definition of a correction? Pretty sure you aren't putting your money where your mouth is.

>>22155530
Market makers need a chance to reaccumulate their inventory

how long do you think I can ride the SHLL train? it has been carrying my profits rn but I'm kind of afraid it is not sustainable. Should I put more in?

>>22155698
The VIX is an index that's calculated by comparing the value of open puts n calls for the next 30 days of the SPX. As such it's basically just a number, but you can trade derivatives of it. In theory a higher VIX means there's higher IV in near-term options meaning people are attempting to price in large, potentially downward moves in the SPX. It's meant to act as a forward looking indicator for incoming volatility, but I kinda think that's bullhonky and it just measures current anxieties

>>22155814
Buy SHLL 10/16 $70 calls and ride it the merger train to profit town

>>22153234
I only fap to asian insta thots now, it's based. I still watch porn sometimes though but can only get off to it if i'm high, otherwise it just seems gross and fake now.

>>22155840
Thanks, that makes sense

>>22151613
>SP500 futures almost in green

Deep green day boys

Will $15 GME oct 16 calls print bros?

>>22156127
I don't think so, what makes you think it could run up that high

>>22156127
Plus it's after earnings so low IV and has already run quite a bit, unless there's some crazy news

>>22152768
I was bombarded with fake news 24/7 that made me to take the wrong choices all over the place. Even /pol/ (my usual source of uncensored news) was on the same page a Leddit. This virus was supposed to end our civilization as far as I knew in March. Insider traders knew that's not the case and they bought the dip. Never watched a news channel since April, I automatically filter anything covid-related as fake news that's there to manipulate the masses into giving up their freedom.

>>22156215
>>22156180
People are saying a yuge short squeeze is coming soon and I:
1. Love watching shorties get burned
2. Have an extra 3K to throw at them

>>22156180
he doesn't know pepelaugh

>us markets pump
>Asia markets pump because us markets pumped
>euro markets pump because Asia markets pumped
>us markets pump because euro markets pump
It’s the ciiiiiiirclllle of puuuuuuuump

>>22155723
Fucking based. Good luck brother

>>22156477
I don't think you do either

>>22156248
I wish i could do options in my TFSA but im just swingtrading 100% GME shares.
All the bears dont understand it's a positive feedback loop. They keep citing GME's fundamentals like it matters.

Considering GME delayed earnings to September, the timing of the SEC filing, the massive share buybacks prior to this, Ryan Cohen, it's plain as day this was all planned out for months to rob the short sellers. You cant make this shit up

Ask yourself which side has the momentum and odds against them?

>>22156231
>Even /pol/ (my usual source of uncensored news)
/pol/fags are never going to make it, imagine """discussing""" politics with normies on a vietnamese rice paper drawing board

Fuck me is oil seriously going down again

>>22156554
>>22156477
Don’t fight frens I just wanna know if it’s a good idea or not. Is the squeeze happening? Will I miss the train if I don’t hop in tommorow?

>>22156127
>>22156180
Why is GME going up anyway? It's a joke of a company with no future.

>>22156554
Don't let me catch you FOMO in at $20 november when the consoles come out, us gamestop chads will go to the moon ourselves.

>>22156578
Ok I’m buying 3600 worth of oct 15 calls at open

>>22156601
people hoping burry strikes gold again

>>22156611
good luck to you all but amazon is a thing. Gamestop can suck my vinegar nuts dry

>>22156587
I sold my TSM, QQQ, TQQQ to go all into GME.
I dont consider myself a gambler but when I see 40% downside at most (bankruptcy is not a risk, and gamestop brand is still very significant, current valuation is still a "value pick") but potentially +1000% upside with the momentum on my side? Yes i all in'd, and it confuses me why it's not a no brainer to you all when mometum was much clearer today. All dips being bought for 3 days.

>>22156585

Oil is at least an 2 years Hold investment.

Imagine unironically this:

A flight from Californie to Germany needs atleast 700 Barrels of oil.
Before corona there were 100.000 flights a day , so at least 2 to 4 milion barrels a day alone was burn in the air.

As long as people dont go to their meme vacations like they used to we Oilbros are doomed bro

>>22156709
And i should add.
A fucking positive feedback loop that makes the price go higher when it goes higher. An enormous i dont believe we've seen historically before (% wise. Tesla still largest)

>>22156709
So stock would be better? I was considering the options. Would oct 16 expire before the short squeeze or would I make it in?

>>22153945
quitter

Gonna buy WMT at open, am I going to make it bros?

>>22155430
I only use MIN, MAX, ABS, IF, and LINEST

Is this glitching?

+ $21???

>>22156911
Check US premarket in 6 minutes.

>>22156753
options are not possible for me in my TFSA. Just do both i guess. Im kinda hoping this squeezes fast since id rather not hold past September but eh i have no idea about timing your expiry honestly. People are citing November console hype as well which historically had been huge for GME. Honestly who can know for sure on when the peak will be

>>22155644
value chads will rise up
slowly

I had a bunch of 7$ calls for GME that expire Friday and my dumb ass sold them right before close.... I feel like killing my self I’m such an idiot

I can't stop watching King of Queens

i hope you guys are ready for today’s crash that’s been foretold for weeks, i gave you fair warning

>>22157041
Carrie's an asshole

>>22157147
>Nasdaq futures going down
please stop crashing the market bro

German is so retarded.
1 million = 1 Million
1 billion = 1 Milliarde
1 trillion = 1 Billion
1 quadrillion = 1 Billiarde

So are weekly TQQQ debit spreads actually as good of a play as people here say?

>>22157147
If the market crashes today, do you think DXY will continue its uptrend?

>>22157147
Tesla is in for a gap down open by the looks of premarket. Otherwise these are not big red day kinda numbers so far. Looks mixed.

>Tesla still dropping overnight
6AM can not come any quicker, this stock is like herpes.

>>22157204
the market will follow tesla

first the tech

then everything else

>>22157197
Dollar's performance today will have more to do with euro PMI numbers releasing this morning. You want those numbers to be good for europe, stronk euro, dollar go down. For now dixie is rejecting the upper short term trend line.

>>22157022
Your mistake wasnt selling them but using the profits to immediately buy later calls
Friday expiry is cutting it too close, you were right in selling.

>>22151613

Fuck you US Bros.
Why do you have to store so much Oil in your repositories?

I think TSLA is a big meme but gamma squeeze manipulation still has power until memery day. A slow bleed of 5% every day to its real valuation would be nuts and hilarious.

How the hell do I trade Japanese stocks? I haven't been able to find any online brokers. And I want to trade actual stocks in Japanese yen and not ETF's. Anyone have any idea? It would be much appreciated.

>>22157353
Global trading account with HSBC or something.
But the commisions for foreign exchanges are daylight robbery.

>>22157191
No, just buy calls. Also wait until friday IDIOT

>he unironically thinks "haha line go up" is just a meme

>>22157353
Anything worth trading in Japan will be available OTC on your own broker. You will be charged fees but it will less severe than commission fees as a foreign investor on that exchange with a japanese broker.

Why are we noot mooning anymore? This can't be it. Just one more month please.

>>22157428
But since the USD is depreciating, won't that eat away any gains I get? I was thinking that buying stocks in yen may serve as a hedge against the dollar, like what Buffet is doing.

>>22154006
What the hell have you bought you have that little growth?

>>22157353

Who the fucks invests in a slowly diying , themselves outbreeding into oblivion society which will import tons of foreigners to take care of their Japanese wifeu pussy to breed meanwhile they are on workplace?

Holy fuck, Japan is literally Germany 2.0 . Social disorders should start when other Chinks invade Japan as fugees.

Only demenzia Boomers like Buffett who sits on billions and billions of dolarooos do that because they love getting cucked

How do I get rich bros? Should I buy some shit and just hold?

>>22157274
Thank you, fren. The reason I'm asking is that I need to transfer some cash to my bank account, but I'm afraid of holding USD in this environment. Do you suggest holding euros as a money printer hedge?

>>22157292
Think that there will be a dip this morning for me to buy more?

>>22157512
buy puts, 30% crash incoming

>>22157512
ya

>>22157526
split your buy between open and 10am

>>22157456
The Yen is useful solely because it is a dead but stable currency. Used as a hedge when your own currency is wildly erratic. Has the advantage against something like gold in that you don't get ripped apart by premiums or volatility swings. Japanese stocks are similarly quite dead but stable. They have been crabbing for years, some for decades.

>>22157526
im all in on calls might sell when the consoles drop or black friday or christmas some shit

i dont really know when im selling

>>22157484
Quiet Frog. Mitsui & Co made daddy some nice returns for me

>>22157532
Dunno if this is a serious response. But honestly I got a pile saved up and I wish to maybe make a bit of passive income, say maybe a couple hundred a month? What do you recommend? Are you a fren?

>>22157353
>>22157428
On that note, what particular Japanese companies seem promising?

>$8.70 in the premarket
It's accelerating even faster than the shillingalpha meme prediction

>>22157570
>passive income on a pile of cash
Unironically REITs, banks, defense, and oil. I wouldn't usually recommend those but if you just want to turn money into more money with zero risk and zero brainpower, that's how you do it.

>>22153219
>too big to fail
>majority smartphone market
>headquarters megastructure can be seen from space
>took 30 years to reach one trillion, reached 2 trillion in 8

ok retard, there’s a greater chance of everyone agreeing to stop using money and go back to the barter system

>>22157590
+13% HOILY FUCK&

What's the best time of day to buy? I'm waiting for TSM to dip back to 80/79 but I know that buying at open is a bit of a booboo

>>22157182

1 inch = 25.4mm
1 yard = 0.9144m
1 mile = 1.609344km
1 pound = 453.59237g
°C = °F − 32 × 59

neck urself poobrain

>>22157614
>with zero risk and zero brainpower, that's how you do it.
lmao no retard all of this shit dumps harder than spy and underperforms spy
don't suggest shit if ur brainless

>>22157624
recently it's been 10am, in theory it's a random walk and you can't predict in, but in practice 10am is usually a daily low

>>22157640
nigga he asked for fixed income, not everyone is interested in "lol yolo tesla"

>>22157577
Long term: none of them
Literally look at any of their charts. Softbank might be the only exception .
At best the strategy is to invest for stable dividends. Which is a poorly performing strategy anyway.

>>22157557
>>22157541
Which calls do you recommend? I have 8 for 10$ October and 30 for January 10$

>>22157656
how is spy "yolo tesla"
again don't suggest shit if you're new and clueless to this
>>22157570
buy SPY etf, ignore any retards except me responding to you

>>22157570

Vanguard All world high dividend Yield should be enough for you if you only want passive income

>>22157681
>hurr durr banks are gonna dump again
Show puts faggot

>>22157640
>>22157656
See I'm to schizo to know what the fuck the truth is lol. Honestly like I said I'm looking for something stray and unspectacular because I'm fucking off to the third world in 3 months time and it would be nice to make some coin in my straw hut.

crazy how all the bears here claim the crash is upon us but won't post positions

what are the odds of a TSLA boggening so S&P can save some quick buck before s&p? Sold @470 and gonna wait for the stock market crash before reentering

>>22157697
>reits and banks and oil
>spy
>vanguard dividends
all of them basically do the same thing, purplefag is retarded and thinks banks will dump again but he's gay and wrong, but none of them are bad choices

>>22157697
SPY is literally the safest thing there is it's literally a pension fund tracking the s&p500
if you don't know what s&p500 is google it you faggot

>>22157615
>majority smartphone market

That's not even true.

>>22157614
retard

>>22157741
>>22157615
Forgot link
https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile

>>22157674
only january october is too early
any of the january ones

higher more risky and lower less risky simple as that

>>22157697
buy tech bubble when it dips the fuck down
squat on them for awhile
bail the fuck out before it gets ready to blow like a nuke

>>22157735
>reits, banks and oil
will under perform SPY and always have

>>22157739
>SPY is a pension fund
These are the people with the audacity to call others retarded, holy shit

SPY is an INDEX fund dumb nigger not a fucking pension

>>22157741
It's true in the US, android is only popular with big brain powerusers and pajeets

>>22157624
Dude i sols my TSM to buy GME today. By the time i take profits abs buy back into TSM itll prob still be $82 or something. Dont bother timing TSM. Good fundamentals with normal organic growth. Earnings not until Oct (?). No hype until samsung blatantly shits the bed.

>>22157695
Thanks anon. I'll look into it.

>>22157768
retard

I cant fucking sleep. I give up. GME'a fault. My first 10x soon and im so fucking certain of it.

>>22157761
I guess I’ll add to my 10$ January

>>22157754
>jumping in to white knight a guy who can't tell the difference between SPY and social security
lmao

>>22157767
and SPY underperforms the NASDAQ and always will, why half ass? If you're going to ignore his specific request for dividends and suggest max capital gain, why not shill TQQQ?

>>22157695
How does that compare with VTSAX?

>>22157812
because nasdaq/qqq can and will dump harder than spy if there is going to be a dump
retard

>>22157793
dumb nigger

>>22157681
>>22157695
>>22157735
>>22157762
>>22157768
Sorry to be a mass fag but I guess I should clarify that my pile of cash is a pile of cash to me as an ironworker. I'm looking at 10-15 grand. So I'm not sure if that changes anything as far as my options go.

Buying $10000 worth of $6 10/2 GME put at open.

I’m picking out a color for my new porsche currently

>>22157825

>>22157832
retard
>>22157836
if you're afraid of losing then absolutely do not buy the fucking retarded oil, bank and other shit stocks any retard here has shilled to you
just buy SPY

>>22157831
and oil wont dump as hard as SPY because it's still crabbing on the bottom

are you just going to run in circles like a dumb nigger all day, or are you going to figure out at some point there's different risk levels

>>22157836
oh yeah that changes it, just dump that shit into QQQ if you're boring, TQQQ if you're fun, dividends aren't worth shit with $10k

>>22157858
Thanks! Looks like VTSAX is the go!

GMEBROS

>>22157877
>it's still crabbing on the bottom
ok thanks for proving to me you're an absolutely massive retard
filtered
nobody listen to this retard ok

>>22157847
Why puts?

>>22157866
show puts or shut the fuck up nigger, if you're so sure banks and oil will crash again show us your bets on it, that's a stupid fucking position and I don't believe your money is where your whore mouth is

>>22157866
Yeah clearly I don't want to lose anything so I'll just lay out the plan because I'm a retard. I have the amount I specified saved up and I have connections to a really poor country that my father retired to. I want to make a couple hundred a month so I don't have to go back to the states to work for a couple months. If I can make a couple hundred bucks a month that's great.

>>22157891
see
>>22157897
and kill yourself

Still active in here? I want to talk stocks.

>>22157914
Take the money you need (as a yearly sum) and divide it by 10k to get the dividend yield you need

so $200/mo = $2400/yr, = 4.1% divvies

Dividends are the most hands off way to use your 10k to just print money every three months, and most REITs pay monthly (most other stocks pay quarterly)

>>22157914
SPY is the lowest risk and will dump the least if there is a market wide dump. do not fucking buy individual garbage oil or bank stocks like some idiot is suggesting.

>>22157877
Yeah I'm boring because I have a real shot at only having to work three months out of the year, and if I can get a hold.on this, I won't.have to pick up another piece of rebar in my life.

>>22157984
crash today, buy SQQQ

>>22157999
SPY has a 1.6% dividend yield and pays quarterly. It literally does not do what you're asking. The purple faggot gains chaser can't read

See
>>22157991
You literally just want a monthly dividend REIT

>>22157847
thanks for the tip

>>22157914
and if you need convincing, just go here
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio#analysisResults
and backtest SPY vs retarded oil and bank stocks

>>22158037
>the faggot who can't read and doesn't know what fixed income means is also the faggot obsessed with backtesting
What a fucking shock

>>22157991
No secret I'm a newfag but can you give me a rundown on REITS? Can they really be as good as you make it sound?

>>22158001
VIX has been showing this. Everyday growing momentum. I’m thinking about buying VXX calls.

300 reply limit is dumb.
Make a new thread.

>>22158112
REIT stands for real estate investment trust. They buy and rent out property. By law they're required to pay a certain large percentage of their income as dividends, which is why they're strong fixed income assets. Generally you only put them in boomer pension accounts but it sounds like exactly what you need. There's different types, commercial, residential, or for specific areas like New York or whatever.

>>22157462
>>22157462
>>22157462

>>22152629
get into the cagie wagie

>>22158158
Yeah I'm certainly going to do my research myself but I was looking for a general direction to head in.