/biz/ - Business & Finance

Is it a good time to invest more?
I am 30% in cash but I am afraid to invest now

They need to start building more ships. HII keeps fucking sinking.

>Print Money to Big Boys
>they dump it into equities having learned their lessons from 2009-2020
>Print Money to give to the Plebes
>they dump it into equities having been given time to see what Big Money learned in 2009-2020
>NONE of this money is going into the actual economy or spurring real growth
Ok JPOW, what is your next great move? Money velocity, even more so than the USD, has been the thing to short this year.

TSLA will never sink, just like the Titanic.

>>22083812
Shhh, don't tell them. I'm not done buying gold yet.

Seriously Fomo on Tesla-chan.

Its running on retard strength and looks like easy money. When does the rug get pull?

anons...dont buy in today. Think about it, IT WENT UP 20% IN ONE DAY. wait for the pullback today and then get in at the dip and hold until battery day(sept 22.)

>>22083842
>When does the rug get pull?
Imagine a 20% spike in the first half hour, then a 50% loss within 5 minutes
that would make me HARD

>>22083714
I just bought gme not for the gains but for the memes

>>22083714
SHLL will break 50 today. Check em.

>>22083886
NO
O

ASS
S
S

How does she even shit

>>22083927
>she

>>22083874
and miss the 400% gains tomorrow? its going right back to $2,200 by next week

Sooooo, how long do I hold Tesla for?

read this 3 times. there has to be a rug pull. this is NOT sustainable

I'm seriously fucking shaking my head at this Tesla fomo.
This is just fucking stupid. I am eagerly waiting for the obvious crash.

>>22083959
>Elon announces another Stock Split 2 weeks after Battery Day

Fuuuaaaarkkk, how great would that be for our wallets?

>>22084005
nobody cares, sharks are just chumming the waters and NPCs are swarming in to get eaten

>>22084005
Apple's P/E wasn't particularly ridiculous two months ago, maybe inflated because it's not like Apple has a lot of further growth margin.

>>22083838
>spam "buy gold" for 100 years
>it will be right this time

THEY JUST KEEP FINDING WAYS TO FUCK ME

i didn't override anything

>>22084015
Probably going to be green for the rest of the week at least.

>>22084061
Did you sell the underlying to a call you sold?

>>22084100
no
i only have one sold covered call and i'm still holding the underlying

>>22084116
Contact support then

>everyone knows TSLA is overpriced
>everyone's still riding it because "everyone else is doing it"

fuck you guys i wanna short but ill get hammered

>>22084080
I'd say it's likely that it's going to keep on for a while. But it's inevitable that there will be something that triggers hell. It's just a matter of one single strong sign of impending doom (even if it's not justified).

>>22084132
That's what I'm doing now. Simultaneously beginning my search for a new/better broker.

>>22083714
>WDC
>AMD
>SPCE
>Holding EUR
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo

I bet most hedge funds right now look like robinhood user portfolios but with shorts on penny garbage instead of longs.
What a timeline. Everthing is a shitcoin.

>>22084149
>because "everyone else is doing it"
I hate normans so much
They all have to vanish
Normicide now

Plays for the day:
TSLA
TQQQ
FNGU
WKHS
UVXY
GLD
SLV

Anything else?

>>22084213
Denny's

Tesla is very unique. It's a car company, battery company, tech company (self-driving software), and energy company all in one. I believe it will be the first company to have a 10 trillion dollar market cap and that it will happen this decade. Smart money is buying now.

I’m down 15% on my oil stock. According to analysts the median target in the next 12 months is 40%. Should I buy more?

is the sept 22 battery news priced in?

>>22084272
Watch the oil futures market. When that gets to $60/barrel in real terms (instead of POOMPED by inflation), that will probably be the go signal for a lot of big money.
Personally if you are THAT committed to oil memes you should get something that tracks the oil futures themselves.

>>22084272
40% increase I mean.

>>22084272
>imagine betting on the saudis instead of an American company led by elon musk himself

>>22084272

US shale is so fucked

>>22084272
Youll be waiting long meanwhile tsla and aaplfags are raking in the dough

BUY ZOOM

we're pumping hard today aren't we..

>>22084272
Oil really isn't gonna recover that much. The forecast were already for 48 dollars, s yes you have some upward potential but not that much, and with all the fuss about electric cars I'm not too sure about petrol anymore

>>22084293
Battery day is the rug pull. Tesla next generation 1 million mile nanowire space technology battery is priced in, and it will not happen.

Sell GME? I feel like the growth is not sustainable.

>>22083714
that's a renault alpine faggot

i had a dream market was finally red today at -0.5%
but QQQ is green at at +1.24% premarket.
WTF i will never be able to increase my position confidently (hoping to use my 20% cash and put it into TQQQ)

fffuck i should have stayed in TQQQ

>Apple up 2.5% PM
>Tesla up 6.5% PM
>VIX up 15% PM
WE'RE GOING TO DIE, AREN'T WE?!

>>22084470
SHUT UP AND BUY

>>22084470
Companies no longer make value. They make stock splits. And their shares replace fiat.

is TD Ameritrade alright?
what do you guys use?

Do you guys see how gay your thread is? This is why /biz/ is a crypto board newfags

>>22084509
only homo here is (You)

>>22084502
TDA for ToS
Fidelity for most of my long term money

>>22084502
TD is for grown-ups only. Under-30s can use Robinhood or Webull.

be honest, would /smg/ be more enjoyable if you filter anything tesla related? like real stock talks

>>22084532
bearded for almost 30 years so i should be alright
RH has pissed me off for the last time

Are you guys using software to analyse stocks or are you just looking at funny lines on the internet?

>>22084502
TD is the best service you can use hands down.

>>22084551
>filter out the only thing about the entire market worth talking about
lmao why don't you just try it faggot? the option is right there
I had no idea these threads were so pathetic and you think you guys need an entire board hahahahaha

>>22084561
>analysing stocks
Lmao get a load of this cuck

>wake up
>look at the value of my AAPL and TSLA stock

bros wtf? do i just put in a 5% trailing stop on each or something now? do i seriously buy more at this point or is this the top? how does it keep going up i don't get it. im making money but i don't get it and that scares me. there's no news besides a split.

Shill me some memeshit I have 4k left over after profit taking.

>>22084615
all in tqqq

>>22084213
DOMINOES

>>22084005
Maybe that's because
1) 35 years ago people didn't have PCs. You had some shitty computers in offices and that was it
2) MSFT was the PC of choice forever, especialy in the 90s.
3) PCs grew in popularity
4) Apple products grew in popularity starting in the late 90s with the weird colored Macintoshs
5) The iPod, iPhone, iPad, and MacBook
6) Apple TV, Apple Watch, people using tablets for everything

I'm not saying that AAPL isn't overbought. I'm not saying saying we aren't in a stock market bubble. What I am saying is that it's so much easier to add another trillion dollars in market cap when everyone buys your stock because everyone is buying your product.
Doomers gonna doom I guess.

>>22084035
Robinhood investors (the kind you're thinking of) don't have a significant amount of capital to be moving the market, even if you put them all together.

>>22084149
Just buy a share faggot it's way more fun being on the winning side.

>>22084235
>Smart money is buying now
I don't know about that one chief. Smart people have a very hard time justifying the price even if you factor in all the IP and future products + success. You have to just accept that you can't rationalize if you want to 'invest' in TSLA.

>>22084490
This, but unironically. QQQ
fractional shares are the new fiat and BTC is the new gold

>>22084551
>real stock talks.
The virgin value investor

>>22084437
you're personally in too deep if you're feeling scared after a single day, sell part of your position then.
I've overlooked GME until the weekend, but fact is their cash is more than their debt, they have new management for some potentially huge restructuring, and a double console release is coming up this year. Shorts has made it a huge discount and now you have whales who are already showing you that GME is a huge discount on the books since they are either increasing or keeping their positions.

I have a price target around $25 and I'm not really looking at the short squeeze anymore. I'm banking on weedstock-level retardedness as it hypes around console release. That said I'm only risking 10% of my portfolio on it, and my cost basis is under $6 so i'm chill.

>>22084272
After winter maybe

Musk is now the 3rd richest person in the world.

>>22084615
ZOOOOM

>>22084272
if biden wins oil will collapse

>>22084513
Sauce on those sockerinos?

>>22084664
my gf (male)

If we are in a post-cyclical era (government will prevents crash) why shouldn't I go all in with maximum leverage? Wouldn't it be free money?

>>22084655
do you have more

>>22084643
>he thinks GME is going up because of fundamentals

You are aware that GME is the target of a massive short squeeze right now, right anon?

>>22083714

>>22084690
quite

>>22084637
why are you talking about 35 years ago? he's talking about the last year

>>22084624
Done. market order

>>22084658
Sorry

>tfw could’ve bought TSLA at 200 before the split

Seriously, why do I still listen to boomers? Why don’t I ever learn?

when people say rug pull for tesla...does that mean 50% drop? and is it assuming that it wont go back up to even half of that drop? curious

>>22084561
analyzing companies for things like cash flow and sales or hired talent is no longer done. way too many retards are in the stock market now, you can only analyze memes to predict stocks these days

>>22084722
Luck be with you anon

>>22084615
probably TQQQ or TSLA. i wish i had gone into TQQQ months ago, i only bought in a couple weeks ago but im already up despite one scary day after i bought in where it dropped 1.3%. just dont panic and be patient

>>22084490
-one bic mac meal please
-That would be 3 tsla stonks :)

>tfw plan to preorder/buy this today with my gains

whats the point of the gains if you dont enjoy it

>>22084716
Re-read the post I'm referencing. 35 years to 1st trillion 1 year to 2nd that is the central point to his whole thesis bro.

>>22084615
Build a bear

>>22084735
which boomer stocks did you buy instead?

>>22084743
This is the correct answer. Just throw fundamentals out of the window and buy whatever normies are buying.

>>22084561
Inversing robinhood was generally a solid way to gains. Once that information was hidden, it shifted to stocktwits.

>>22084741
>1150 P/E
More like 95%.

>>22084637
>Robinhood investors (the kind you're thinking of) don't have a significant amount of capital to be moving the market, even if you put them all together.
yes, that would be true in normal times. however retail investors ARE dominating the market right now and movign it, because the traditional big players are all sitting out on the sidelines in cash and bonds

>>22084774
no, the point is that the market cap more than doubled in one year through pure multiple expansion

>>22084694
i dont wanna count too much on shorts after yesterday's massive volumes unless someone can share me up-to-date statistics on %

>>22084561
I just buy tech because there is no reason to buy anything else. If tech stonks get rekt then switch to banks, just not whack shit like WFC, buy JPM..
Cash will always be trash

>>22084655
lets make him #1, fuck gates fuck bezos! chink communist loving antiamerican scumbags

>>22084735
You would have sold when it pumped to 700

I wasn't there when the Dotcom and BTC bubbles topped, but now I understand the psychology behind it. If it always goes up, it just can't go down, no one will sell, no one will call the bluff. Until someone does I suppose.

You would have to buy their shares right now.

>>22084781
Ford and AT&T

>>22084772
>not reinvesting instead of retiring a millionaire at 21
ngmi

>>22084272
Oil has been a bad investment for anyone except royalty owners and working interest owners since 2011. Get out and stay out.

>>22084803
AAPL is under valued

>>22084838
You would have to be insane to buy their shares right now*

>>22084853
according to which metric?

>>22084832
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-rocks-us-full-of-entitlement.html

???

>>22084772
>not reinvesting instead, and retiring a millionaire at 21
ngmi

boomers really think zoomers will look at the P/E ratio of a stock and go "holy smokes, time to sell"

zoomers don't even know what P/E means.

>>22084863
The meme index.

>>22084887
Premature Ejaculation?

>>22084890
In 2020, this is a solid argument.

>>22084887
Zoomers thing the higher a PE ratio the better because bigger number good

>just learned that settlement dates
uhh I haven't been waiting for my cash to settle, does this matter for me who's not even on margin? TFSA btw, so Canada.

>>22084899
why?

>>22084609
Everybody is putting in their trailing stops. When a big market maker decided to pull the rug, they'll sell the top in quantities that will exceed the daily buying potential of the Teslabros (who aren't holding any cash, and therefore have to wait for their paychecks to buy more). This will cause the price to decrease.
The drop, however, will trigger people's stoplosses. The tightest stoploss will trigger first - 1% off the previous highs or something like that. Normally these are the people who make posts saying "my stoploss triggered and then it kept going up, damn manipulation!" But today they'll be thanking their lucky stars, because we've already exceeded daily cash inflow for the entire day from all the dip-buyers, and so the price will continue to fall.
Not too many people set their stops as tight as -1%, but those that do trigger the cascade to -2%, and those guys selling triggers the -3%s, and so on. When it hits -5%, you'll see a huge increase in the selling, as that's a fairly common trigger point.
All this can happen in the first 30 minutes of trading, or even during premarket. By 10am all the financial news channels are running a live TSLA ticket behind their anchors, and the scrolling bar at the bottom struggles to keep up as we plummet past -6%, -7%, -8%...

Bought 2 TSLA shares at 445€ today. Can you dear ameribros continue pumpin it?

OH SHIT ITS GOING DOWN

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
>Tulip mania reached its peak during the winter of 1636–37, when some bulbs were reportedly changing hands ten times in a day. No deliveries were ever made to fulfil any of these contracts, because in February 1637, tulip bulb contract prices collapsed abruptly and the trade of tulips ground to a halt.[37] The collapse began in Haarlem, when, for the first time, buyers apparently refused to show up at a routine bulb auction. This may have been because Haarlem was then suffering from an outbreak of bubonic plague. The existence of the plague may have helped to create a culture of fatalistic risk-taking that allowed the speculation to skyrocket in the first place;[38] this outbreak might also have helped to burst the bubble.[39]

you guys might want to keep this in mind right now.

40% LET'S ZOOOOOM

>>22084960
the fuck outta here with that boomer shit
only way is up UP
BUY BUY BUY

>>22084838

In the dot com bubble people were literally quitting their jobs to retire before it popped. Tons of people were just sitting on millions in paper profits, or waiting for their stock incentives to vest so they could retire.

>>22084925
The panic might also spread to other stocks; and cause the same thing across the board. Complete collapse. Everyone scrambling for something to put their liquidity into before the inflation boom hits.
Oh man, when the inflation hits it's going to be like a fucking explosion, people will wake up one day and their money will be worthless and they'll wonder what the fuck happened,.

>>22084871
this is going to be my first "full" year, need to spurge on something retarded because i been working my ass off and putting it into my portfolio

>>22084887
Can confirm.
I have no fucking clue what a P/E ratio, beta/gamma/delta..., or any of these other outdated boomer terms mean.
I just see line go up or company with potential of line go up.

Everyone already forgot that there is still more economic stimulus on the way aka brrrrr and that there is 1 trillion just chilling incase the stock market actually crashes.

>>22085000
>>22084871
oops i mean my first full year as an employee at my company

REMINDER

>>22084960
it's more like the south sea company bubble. isaac newton was one of the bagholders there by the way, on the subject of "smart money" buying

>>22085011

>>22084838
i'm not too worried because with the momentum (BUY THE DIP) there's going to be a double top to signal the end, just make sure to get out in time.
I'll probably lose like -10% before I realize what's going on but my cost basis is pretty low anyways. I've switched to QQQ from TQQQ, I just hope I didn't do it too early because I'm already feeling a bit said after today's premarket.

Zoom should announce they are going to make Zoom integrated EVs. They'd be even more valuable than AAPL at that point.

>>22084382
Cars, Planes and Ships that run on petrol aren't gonna disappear. Batteries still have dog shit energy density and petrol/diesel is becoming more and more efficient.

>>22084980
I see other ev stocks feel some pain, especially nikola but i kinda doubt that the tesla pop would have much effect on the broader market

>>22085039
>just make sure to get out in time.
t. Literally everyone

>tsla

>>22085020
i mean, both work. but yeah that one is pretty hilarious too.

>>22085059
Zoom out

>>22085005
>Doesn't know what PE
>What it is is literally the name
It's the price to earnings ratio anon. If it is very high you are paying a lot of money relative to the money the company makes. If it is very low you are paying very little for a company that makes a lot of money.

>>22084899
wat

Tesla weekly calls have been up over 100% per day every single day except 1 since the split announcement. This is free money for everyone.

Ok guys I start selling now .
You worried me enough

>>22084960
the thing is
(((they))) can't allow for the stonk market to fall, there is nowhere to run
cash is trash
gold will destroy the whole pyramide
and the stonk market is driven by a few big names
if they fall, it all falls apart

long TSLA, AAPL, PYPL

>>22085084
until it isnt.

Papa Musk will deliver

>>22085057
you think QQQ is going to drop so fast my stop losses will be too slow??
Plenty of FOMO retards on the sideline now just realizing oil, airliners, REITs, etc were not the answer.

>>22085047
>petrol/diesel is becoming more and more efficient.
Became more efficient
This stops now, there is no more efficiency left to squeeze out except for measily percentages
You could maybe build some super complicated thermal reclaiming system for ships but i doubt it

>>22084741

it's still overvalued at 50% drop.
When the fundamentals kick in, we're looking at 400 dollars presplit and that's still pricing in a whole bunch of future sucess.
My price target is maybe 80 bucks post-split.

>>22085101
You don't have to sell. You can just buy puts
>"but I don't have enough shares"
If you can't hedge with options your position was a meme in the first place. Either because its too small to do anything or it doesn't have an options chain.

>TSLA crashing in pre market
Here we go

>>22085108
well this is where you are wrong, they do have one other alternative. One that put a mark on ur forehead in order to sell and buy.

>>22085057

Anyone who has been investing for more than year is pretty much out or at least hedged right now. You'd be retarded not to. The only people holding bags now are newfags fomoing in. I don't think they'll buy the dip, in fact I think they'll all sell at a 10% loss. I think its just going to plummet. Although I bet the NASDAQ gets to 20k first.

>>22085058
I got jan 21 800 calls on TSLA. Im thinking 1k end of month then 2k eoy (again).

>DXY
Umm guys

TSLA pumping pre-market like crazy. how do you "T-THIS IS THE TOP! IT'S GOING TO CRASH!" brainlets feel?

>>22084925
when will this happen for real on the whole market?

>TSM back at $80
woohoo.. time to crab back to $79 next week.
This was supposed to be my safe bet and it's just losing me money with the dollar devaluing everyday.
I expected it and I have my QQQ exposure, but it still kinda annoys me. Symposium news didn't do much despite how bullish it was, meanwhile AMD is at $90+ now.

>>22085161
get out niggerbrain

>ZM down from +31% to +30.73%
aah i am financially ruined

>>22085119
What're you basing that off anon? What's your background and rationale? We've still not seen dual opposed piston engines, Mazda's Skyactive is still pushing for more efficiency by running lean in the majority of the cylinders and using rich spots to trigger cascading ignition. There's still more to be gotten out of ICE.

>>22085175
Dollar down
Futures up

It's FNGU time

>>22085164
i am useless virgin, thou

>>22085084
i cant figure out how far OTM to get

>>22085059
>newton didn’t know psychological 1000 resistance ta

>>22085203
>TSLA going up so much, being up only a "few percent" in the premarket is considered "crashing"

OH GOD ONLY 4%? ITS CRASHING HERE COMES THE RUGPULL

>>22085203
It was at $538 like 30 minutes ago faggot

>>22085179
It is tho, there will be a lot of unpaid rent this month.

whens the best time to buy TSLA today? 1 hr after open to let the price dip from initial sell off for profit takers?

>>22085238
you laugh at him but how would other anons do better without stop losses to save them

Don't forget - AR products is around the bend to. Services expanding; hell look at Adobe. they went to a service type model. The stock exploded thanks to it. 5G phones around the bend - "Fat data pipe" It'll get bought if nothing else other than "its there". All those video streaming and video chats suck bandwidth you know especially as the resolution is jacked (4k & 8K)

>>22085175
Who needs the dxy when we have tsla?

a healthy pullback is necessary

>>22085247
thank for trailing stop sell

>>22085119
Or we could just use water engines but they poisoned/killed the last guy who came up with that 20 years ago, so I don't think anyone has the balls anymore

>>22084899
ok

heads up, that walmart plus seems legit. free delivery

>>22085263
Sorry my crystal ball is in the shop, anon.
If you are long on TSLA then it doesn't matter. Speaking only from experience, waiting for the dip when it seems obvious has never happened. Therefore, buying at open is your best bet. Rationality doesn't work on memes

>>22085263
just place a market order and enjoy the wild gains
we zoomers don't really understand what a stock split is, the crazy pump will continue until TSLA gets back to 2k

i used to be a value/dividend investor
but looking back at some portfolios I've made when I started and how they underperformed, just lel

>>22085297
Daddy Powell literally paying yeArs worth of rent now while dems and reps haggle about 1 trillion vs 3 trillion. All hail Powell!

>>22085047
efficiency of real world ICE vehicles is like 10-20%. today's electric cars manage close to 80% efficiency. there's no competition. i thought they were the gayest fag shit ever but they truly are the future.

>>22085343
oy vey the people deserve 3 trillion but only if niggers get 2 trillion of it

t. shabbos goy pelosi & yidmeister schumer

>>22085195
Based, my broker account has to close my TSM position at open today, I'd be pissed if it was <$80
Side note, if in my shoes taking a 25% return would you rebuy TSM at current price?

Tesla is likely to go back to 2k again, people saw what happened before the split, and they will hold until it happens again, more people got into this time, and after that, I am not going to be greedy and neither should ya'll, take your profits because it might go down.

how do I long Belarus?

>>22085350
It doesn't matter because energy density in gasoline is higher on a order of magnitude. You're not gonna commercially fly a plane or push a ship with just batteries. (yet)
An electric drivetrain makes a car cost an extra 15k. They wouldn't be viable without subsidies to begin with.
All EV's are good for right now are urbanites unless Musk somehow unveils the god tier battery.

>>22085350
Okay, and what's the comparative energy density of electric and gas

>>22084925
(continuing)
At this point it will become a battle. The true Tesla bulls, watching the numbers fall, will rush to free up some extra money in order to "buy every dip." They'll be joined by some of the tight-stoploss guys, who are now sitting on big piles of cash from the recent sales and patting themselves on the backs for "predicting" the crash that they in fact caused. But others will be rushing to sell: anyone who didn't set their stops will either do so now, or just jam "market sell" as they risk for the lifeboats. Some of these, too, will console themselves saying, "I'll buy back in after it falls another 5% or so, nothing to worry about."
But there is. Because while the range from down 5% to down 10% will be a battleground, the price only needs to touch -10% off the previous highs to start a true stampede.
This time the process repeats, but the True Bulls have already had their liquidity sucked in. Some of the Tight-Stoppers have too, selling at -2% or -3%, buying back in at -7% or -8% and then seeing it continue to fall: -12%, -13%, -14%
We're approaching the -15% stoploss, and this time the momentum is unstoppable. Even as a handful of the sellers from the 5-10 range buy back in, even more are flooding out in a desperate attempt to salvage some capital. -15% hits by noon, -20% by one, and at this point the rest of the day resembles a cliff face.
As people get out, they brag on /biz/: "Even down 20%, I still made money!" But the pain is real, and the truth is that not all of them did. The price drops for the rest of the day, consolidates briefly the next morning, and then continues to fall through the rest of the week. By Friday close, TSLA is back at its 2018 high, adjusted for the stock split.

>>22085419
>>22085422
i agree 100%, gas/diesel has much better power density and greater portability: a jug of tank of gas vs an elaborate battery system.
>An electric drivetrain makes a car cost an extra 15k.
much of that cost is in the battery. the electric motor and transmission system are much simpler than an ICE and have great reliability, much fewer moving parts. maybe super capacitors will be the way forward, rapid charging and light weight.

>>22085263
You might wanna wait a bit

>>22085220
Modern diesel engines reach an efficiency of up to 45%
Steam turbines, the most efficient way to pull tourge out of pressure known to man reach an efficiency of 50%, with exhaust heat partially reclaimed it can go up to 60-70%
There just is a lot of thermal loss, and we just wont be able to create high volume gasses out of low volume liquids by burning them without them rising in temperature
The gain in efficiency for ices over the last decades is primarily attributed to a far more precise fuel injection and less mechanical loss, the thermal loss that is needed for the gas to expand in the first place is still unaccounted for, and i dont see how it would in such a small thing as a car

How do I leverage bet against TSLA? Is there an EV -3x ETN or something?

wirecardbros we're moooning

>>22085535
Just buy oil

>>22085535
Shorting is just as insane as buying, anon

>>22085548
Oil has been crabbing for months. Why would you do that when you can just ride the tech wave right now?

>>22085541
is the ceo pumping from prision?

A lot of people is about to lose their life's savings to a fucking Textbook-example Stock Bubble.

forget TSLA for a moment, how are we feeling about AAPL? buffet is 43% AAPL right now. isn't AAPL safe comparatively to TSLA while still making major gains?

>>22085555
I know, I just want to throw penny change in and watch the carnage

>>22085581
Yeah Apple is future proofed as fuck and good meme potential with zoomers combined, got a ton in AAPL

>>22085581
Long term it's tremendous value, it's essentially undervalued at this point.

>>22085581
I'm gonna buy both AAPL and JAMF (which services apple and has an earnings report after hours) at open

>>22083714
STOP DROPPING IN VALUE YOU FAGGOT USD, I AM LOSING MY YESTERDAY GAINS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>22085581
It's the safest Tech you can hold right now, but if you only have like $3000 to invest, Tesla gained more and faster for that small investment. Apple is great if you have like $100,000 to invest.

>>22084735
Boomers are always right in the end.

>>22085581
AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, and AMZN all survived the dotcom crash that took down fucking everything tech related as collateral damage. The first two have dividends as is because they had to get investors to trust them again.
The ZIRP "summer children" like UBER, TSLA, SNAP, WORK, LYFT, etc. are the ones to be worried about.

>>22085575
Word. Just hope it doesn't crash the market with it.

>>22085330
>>22085340
im just talkingi for a swing trade, something to hold until friday. maybe ill just grab an option on open instead

>>22085643
The companies survived, but the stock still nosedived.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3610383-tesla-to-sell-5b-worth-of-shares-in-equity-distribution-agreement

payday today, should be topping $100K. I think i'll buy some of that crazy zoom and more FNGU

>>22083714
Lol Tesla is selling 5b of shares

>>22085694
This entire gamma squeeze train being used just to get more loans is so anti-climatic

>>22085581
>>22085597
AAPL built its wealth using communist china and all its unfair trade practices as a vehicle. thats going to disappear eventually and AAPL will be stuck with $10,000 iphones that nobody wants to buy

>>22085694
You're joking, Banks want to buy ATH?

>>22084705
Red pilled

>>22085643
>AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, and AMZN all survived the dotcom crash

If you invested in AMZN at the top of the bubble, you would take you 9 years to break even, not accounting for inflation.

>>22085727
Everyone knows it's a bubble. They might aydd well take advantage of it to grow

>>22085732
good news for retail investors. those kikes aren't going to buy high and dump it.

>>22085732
people on twitter are refinancing their homes to buy tesla and apple shares

Going 6k in AAPL and 3k in TSLA tonight boys, how am I doing?

>>22085694
>reread this
>WFC is part of this
TIME TO SHORT BANKS AGAIN

FUCK IS THIS THE RUG PULL?

>>22085751
Well, that's it then. I sold half of my stack yesterday, gonna buy more today...

Stand by to be dumped on

Fuck it gonna FOMO into Tesla today like the banks

>>22085033
based

>>22085794
drop in the bucket

Thoughts on GME?

>>22085694
So Elon is dropping the heavy bags on banks to write-off debt. This will trigger the banks to sell to get their money back. Shares will drop Tesla will be debt free so shares will go back up.

>>22085739
what caused the bubble to finally burst? the main thing im interested in researching right now is for each of these bubbles that have happened throughout history, was what finally the "tipping point" that caused everything to finally crash? why was everything fine up until whenever that point was?

>>22085794
wtf I thought we were in this together elon noooooooo

>>22085108
(((they))) can sell high and buy low. The stock market didn't die after what happened in 2008.

>>22085648
fucking kek, drones are fucking hilarious

>>22085794
Now it fucking makes sense. I they had done this with their valuation back in February it would have been a 10% dilution instead of a 1% dilution. That crafty african jew.

does tesla have like all of this shit planned out. HOLY FUCK THIS IS NONSTOP SHIT. and the battery event is until another 3 weeks

MARKET BUY TESLE ON THE OPENING
$800 EOW

>>22085731
I think Apple is overvalued, but if you're claiming it's advantage comes from using cheap Chinese labor, you're being foolish. Every other manufacturer does the same. It's just that Apple's brand commands a price premium, so their labor costs make up a smaller share of their purchase price on average.

TSLA into SP500 when

>>22085732
this wont stop anytime soon my friend, expect another split after this one by 2021

>>22085548
Bad idea

>>22084801
yea two trillion in zoomer rh cash. read a book before you pen your limp fud.

>>22085575
good point. im just gonna daytrade the breakouts to new ATH's from now on.

>>22084403

This. I'm selling off most of my Tesla stock shortly before Battery Day. They probably have something, but I don't think it's a game changer.

Why hasn’t tesla ever had a real dip? Will it seriously never crash?

>>22085830
volatility
you have high volumes on both sides buying and selling, but what happens when buying power dwindles while there will always be people selling and taking profits? Dip and stop losses trigger and panic.

frankly why I stay out of TQQQ when VIX has been spiking like crazy. I'll get back in when it becomes more stable, for now I'm in QQQ just in case.

>>22085830
Exactly what's happening now

" The 1990s was a period of rapid technological advancement in many areas, but it was the commercialization of the internet that led to the greatest expansion of capital growth the country had ever seen. Although high-tech standard bearers, such as Intel, Cisco and Oracle were driving the organic growth in the technology sector, it was the upstart dotcom companies that fueled the stock market surge that began in 1995.

The bubble that formed over the next five years was fed by cheap money, easy capital, market overconfidence, and pure speculation. Venture capitalists anxious to find the next big score freely invested in any company with a “.com” after its name. Valuations were based on earnings and profits that would not occur for several years if the business model actually worked, and investors were all too willing to overlook traditional fundamentals. Companies that had yet to generate revenue, profits and, in some cases, a finished product, went to market with initial public offerings that saw their stock prices triple and quadruple in one day, creating a feeding frenzy for investors.

The Nasdaq index peaked on March 10, 2000, at 5048, nearly double over the prior year. Right at the market’s peak, several of the leading high-tech companies, such as Dell and Cisco placed huge sell orders on their stocks, sparking panic selling among investors. Within a few weeks, the stock market lost 10% of its value. As investment capital began to dry up, so did the lifeblood of cash-strapped dotcom companies. Dotcom companies that had reached market capitalization in the hundreds of millions of dollars became worthless within a matter of months. By the end of 2001, a majority of publicly traded dotcom companies folded, and trillions of dollars of investment capital evaporated."

>>22085794
When do they sell it? Melon giving fomoers a dip to buy.

can someone explain to me how this preps tesla to be in the S&P? do they have to do this? I thought S&P would gladly let them in without doing anything

Wow, since when was AAPL's PE ratio less than 10 and div yields at a whopping 2.5% for a megacap.
BUY BUY BUY BUY

kek, could even retard value buyers be buying in now

>>22085940
My God how I want my face in between that ass

>>22084561
Mostly a worthless effort at the moment, gut feeling is more accurate (if you're smart and read a lot) these days.
t. risk quant

What would you guys think would happen to stock prices if aliens invaded?
Asking for a friend

>>22085830
At some point you just run out of buyers.

>>22084615
AVTX
IPWR

>>22086000

>>22085994
peg below 1 lol. How I wish it was real

>>22085535
Wait for the double top.
TSLA is among the most shorted stocks in history. Who do you think is paying for this shit.

Everyone wants to be the big short. Everyone forgets the margin calls

What do i trim to buy more tsla?


I want 3 more shares.

I had a $5000 gain day yesterday. Today is likely going to be a repeat. Holy shit. Im pulling out if thats the case this shits too sketchy

>>22085994
Tbh google should be sued for misinformation of investors

Why do people say WKHS will PnD after the contract announcement? What reason would it have to go back down?

holy shit almost sold at 508

>>22086068
Charge your phone anon

>>22086068
I have authorization to buy options too today. What options do I buy? I've never done that before?

Maybe I dont buy anymore tsla right now? Maybe appl?

>>22085794
>The Company proposes to issue and sell through or to the Agents, as sales agents and/or principals, shares of common stock, par value $0.001 per share (“Stock”), having an aggregate offering price of up to $5,000,000,000 (the “Shares”), from time to time during the term of this Agreement and on the terms set forth in Section 3 of this Agreement.

it's not a bulk sale, dumbass. it's graduate.

I’m scared guys. A wagie like me shouldn’t be allowed to be making 1/4 my salary a day in the market.

What on earth is going on with AAPL at premarket??? ?

I just sold my tqqq for 166.75.
I might just sit today out

>>22083714
It now only costs $1,2M to buy $82 of Tesla earnings.

>>22086116
SLV 35c monthly.

>>22086123
That's what they want you to think.

>>22085129
keep dreaming. musk will short and then long himself to crash and recover in same week.

>>22086068
Maybe cut your 20% loss bags regardless

>>22086123
That's why the market crashes from time to time. To scare off wagies and paper hands.

>>22086043
god I wish that chair was me

>>22085956
fuck. how do i profit from this while not getting bogged at the same time? this is what im trying to wrap my head around. surely i should be able to figure it out as someone who is actually taking the time to educate myself and really think this shit through instead of all of the retards dumping all of their money into TSLA without even knowing what PE is.

>>22086107
Profit taking.
>IT'S COMING!
>IT'S COMING!
>IT'S COMING!
>IT'S HERE!
>What now?

>>22085575
whats going to take for this shit to pop? any dip is going to be met with new gullible investors

>>22083746
don't worry
I'm buying

>>22084005
He loses the plot there at the end talking about the Fed buying Apple's bonds. Apple's bonds are backed by cash flow from real world operations, not share price. Share price can do whatever all by itself with no affect on Apple's cash flows.

>>22086228
buy SQQQ, puts, .etc when it starts dipping hard. Key point, when it actually STARTS. Don't be the retard who bought SPY puts in a bull run.

>>22086252
If /pmg/ is correct about its $SLV/COMEX hypothesis that chaos could be enough to set everything off.

>>22086228
You can't. The smart money cant profit because you have to make inherently stupid risks to make any money. I have heard alot of guys have made money just rolling weekly apple calls My theory is you can do the same with NEM as its the only gold miner in the index so indexing should feed on itself and create an apple effect on it eventually.

>>22086252
There’s not an infinite supply of new people with cash to burn.

>>22085956
>Right at the market’s peak, several of the leading high-tech companies, such as Dell and Cisco placed huge sell orders on their stocks, sparking panic selling among investors.

why did they do this? how can i know if this shit happens with TSLA, AAPL, etc?

>>22085841
Drones are BTFO investors with common sense at the moment though

What the fuck?

>>22086252
They need to run out of steam first, run out of investors who want to buy the dip basically. In the past it didn't take long, but in the past we didn't had RH App and everything wasn't as Online as it is today. I don't even fucking know anymore, as long as there are idiots out there to buy the dip, there will be institutions who'll ride the wave and sell of slowly not to upset the fragile bubble structure.
Election maybe? I have no idea, safe to assume that you can market buy today for $20,000 and it will make you money in a day.

>>22085766
calls or stocks

>>22085956
It's like pottery

>>22086297
You will be the last to learn

>>22086286
It's September already, wouldn't we already know if that was supposed to happen? Guess they've conjured up some physical silver after all.

>>22086306
i wish FNGU was holding ZM

>>22086306
Quite the bull run there

>>22086306
Zoom invented video conferences yesterday

>>22085956
>The stock market lost 10%
Yea but some individual names got absolutely crushed. Assuming you have weeks to exit individual stocks is foolish

>>22085575
i think it'll look more like this. You'll have at least one chance to bail out at a good price because FOMO is just beginning.

Once you start seeing huge green candlesticks amidst red days, be very scared. Retail investors are still coming in waves (as their trading accounts get set up) but there's obviously huge selling pressure outside of that.

>>22086118
where the fuck do i buy those $.001 shares?

>>22083842
Today, they're selling $5 billion to suckers that can't get off elon's teat.

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1300756215346147329?s=19

>>22086306
Ridiculous. Teams is better in every way, too.

>>22086306

>>22086341
I mean, we're eight hours into September. The markets haven't even opened yet.

>>22086123
what made you that? holdings?

>>22086348
why hold FNGU over TQQQ?

>>22086367
That’s just par value.

>>22086365
Retail is peanuts and the algos and MMs don't care about what they are doing unless its shorting their penny stocks.
Bag offloading is MMs to other MMs. Retail is always just collateral damage.

>>22086306
zoomers won

>>22086306
Look at Kodak, and look at fucking Gamestop
it's hilarious.

I really hope GME goes to $20 though.

>>22086373
Agreed. People are using zoom more for social web conferences though.

>>22086367
that's par value not market value. par value is used for accounting/finance purposes. sale of stock is recorded as a credit to common stock at par value and a credit to additional paid in capital for the amount exceeding par, then the corresponding debit is to cash or whatever.

>>22086394
look at the 3M charts
or the 1M charts
or the 1W charts
or the 1D charts

>>22086365
kek my grandparents lots a few thousand to aurora. Also, my dad just bought in.

>>22086306
i almost bought that piece of shit yesterday too after the earnings info

>>22086306
That one hurt me, luckily I only did a one lot so its not a huge loss for me.

>>22086252
Same thing that crashed the last tech bubble. All we need is AAPL and TSLA to place huge sell orders and tank the stock 10% in a day causing a huge chain reaction in sales.
After that market confidence will be destroyed and the return to normal will be achieved.
Elon Musk or any other huge whale who's been lowkey accumulating shares for years could tank this market with one big sell order and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

>>22085694
>Deutsche Bank
>again
These fucking idiots never learn.
The only financial I am in is BlackRock, all these lenders are clinically retarded.

What's current pump and dump stock?

>>22086374
i really don't understand why the SEC isn't destroying everyone heavily invested in that shitheap. it's such blatant inside trading kikery.

>>22086445

>>22086431
>>22086374
>>22086306
What the fuck do i buy to make 50% in one day

>>22086292
There literally is, its called population

>>22086462
He would be a fool to. Why not slowly sell off $50B, pay off teslas debt and effectively fund it for the next 10 years?

>>22086473
?

>>22085581
Apple os safe because their customer base are the biggest sheep in society. Now that 5g is coming out all the retards in every generation will want one so their friends think their cool

are ZM puts on open a good buy

>>22086431
>I really hope GME goes to $20 though.
Should I sell my 6p at open while it’s green?

>>22086474
slv calls

>>22086517
Verizon and att are busting their asses building 5g infrastructure everywhere that matters too, and carona only slowed them down a little

>>22085940
Made for anal with me

>>22086466
KODK
GME

>>22086406
>Retail is peanuts
not for weed stocks (<10 billion market cap for the biggest ticker right now). These were essentially agriculture penny stocks that reached massive massive valuations (as if the entire world legalized and not just tiny Canada with a population of ~30 million). It was massive to the point that your taxi driver or grandma would know about weed stocks and might be in it too. Even now, ACB still cannot make a profit from what i remember.

>>22086554
even if Biden wins theres not gonna be any federalized legal weed. Kamalas career is based on ruining weed smokers lives

>>22086523
pussy

but yeah, sell part of your holdings if you're feeling that anxious about it. It means you're risking more than you'd like it. I don't give a shit since I'm only risking $1K, an easy $2K or even $5K pipe dream would be fantastic. Wish I could do options in my TFSA.

Part of me wants to see how long this TSLA ride can last for. Part of me wants to get the fuck out of everything right now aside from maybe AAPL

>>22086297
Probably because they wanted to take profits of their massive gains.

>>22086363
You have 2 days. First day you wait to see if they hit a circuit breaker. If they do you have to sell the next day. Anything more than that and it's bye bye everything.

>>22086462
I'm not saying he would but some kike like Soros could buy all the cheap bank stocks, sell off the ATH tech stocks and blow up his bank stocks. Then he could just do the same again but inverse.

>>22086187
Why? Why not just hold?

They just had some kind of deal.

>buy high sell low?

>>22086566
weed stocks fucking garbage, I won't touch it until there's a company that focuses entirely on branded weed products (which irrc isn't allowed yet, still heavily restricted in Canada) because growing weed has shitty profits. The taxes make the margins really shitty, also translates to shitty prices for consumer so the black market on weed continues to thrive 2 years later.

I'm convinced Trudeau legalized weed to help his friends who were holding weed stocks early on.

>>22086570
Anon I’m going to be financially ruined

>>22086374
so just find a stock that trump mentioned at some point, wait for it to dump after the pump session, then buy it cheap and wait for it to repump a few months later?

>>22086566
core of the issue that most DUDE WEED LMAO retards miss is that it's a literal fucking weed that a complete retard could grow. the only barrier to entry is the jewish licensing scheme imposed by the state, the mechanics of actually growing on an industrial/agricultural scale are relatively simple and turnkey solutions exist to do so. market forces drive down black market prices into the ground and then administrative and legal overhead crush what little profit is left. the only way to grow is through scale, there are very few opportunities for revolutionary or """"disruptive""" products. because of this, it's an unattractive investment from top to bottom.

>>22086611
Sunk cost. Gambler's fallacy. The way you lost money doesn't have to be the way you make it back. Just cut your losses and buy an actually winner like apple and be done with it. No point in holding a turd. Just accept you were wrong.

>>22086638
It's not easy to grow top quality bud in massive quantities. Anybody can grow shit weed.

>>22086669
>>22086669
>>22086669

>>22086618
kek

just ride it through you retard, you'll come back here whining if it actually squeezes harder, but if you lose, just skip lunch

>>22086638
That's not exactly true. Growing high quality retail grade marijuana is a science and requires someone who knows what the fuck they are doing. This isn't growing a weed plant in your bedroom closet when you were in high school.
A single store can do over 10 million dollars in annual revenue and if you fuck up your yield it's going to be disastrous.

>>22086322
stocks

>>22086389
Options fucktard

>>22086744
Same is true about every other crop tho
Only that hydroponic systems and greenhouses make it incredibly easy compared to soil and weather outside

>>22084213
>TSLA
Take me down to getting hosed city where they don't need gas but the windows are shitty.

Fuck
Elon ate my shorts
I bought calls now. Leverage 7

Give me my money back so i can short again!

Guys I bought tesla at around $200 dollars in 2019. I have always been supercomfy with this hold up until now. All this media attention and hype after the stock split got me feeling iffy, buy the rumor sell the news and all that. Do you guys think I should sell 60% of my holdings and reinvest it into something else? Or do you see it going further up these coming months?

>>22084332
America is the great Satan.

>>22086554
>ACB cannot make a profit
As a bag holder this hurts.

>>22086935
You've surpassed 10x, just fucking cashout, nig.

>>22086935
Why dont you invest in litecoin derivates or buy shorts?

>>22085879
weird way to say undervalued

>>22087022
Im not quite sure what litecoin derivatives are. I’m not so confident on shorting tsla, I can easily see it going up for another few weeks but the upcoming election and the current state of the us economics in mind i’m not feeling comfortable in the longevity of this bullrun anymore. I might be off though.

>>22087093
I mean you can even leverage litecoin using the derivates
I think it wont go to 20dollar again so i bought a 1.3 leverage

>>22085108
they will short you idiot then rebuy when you liq to feed yourself