/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for Buy TSLA

>>21939826
ok now i want a full fed chairman card set

First for anime!

>>21939848
don't do this it creates a musky odour

Bros... MSFT was supposed to announce the TikTok buyout by now right...?

>>21939826
Bros i fucking hate Los Angeles. I just want to be a firefighter cause I secretly want to die but I'm too much of a pussy to do it myself. Why does my faggots city make it a requirement for me to have an EMT certification. I just want to fight fire and die in one so I dont have deal with bullshit. Also I'm all in on /leanhogs/

why even keep trying so hard?

If I can't win, why?

Can I get some more stimulus to go with this brrr? I think that would go a long way to pumping my stocks further

>market closed
>refresh brokerage anyway
>still get dopamine

>>21939826
Am I totally safe doing amazon Tesla and Apple? It seems like they’ve just been up for years

All they do is steadily go up. Any other stocks like this?

Daily reminder that TSLA's R&D budget is smaller than SNAP's
>>21939826
We could easily make a collectible card game with the like of JPOW, Schiff, Burrey, etc.

>>21939826
I just set up this battle station, what do you FAGGOTS think?

Also post yours

hey /biz/ bros, my bank just called me and left a voicemail saying they want to establish a point of contact? Ive had this bank for like 8 years and not once have they called me? Am I in trouble for some shit? They had my name and branch so I don't think they could get that information without actually being my bank right? Not sure if I should call back

Is NAIL a yolo? Thought it was a decently safeish hold. Also what exactly is the point of tmf as a hedge and should I have not too much of it?

>>21939933
Also what app should I get for buying them

>>21939868
this isn't anime

Bros i got burned real fucking hard on the Xpeng ipo. was losing patience and bought the top like 24 something thinking there was an uptrend. i'm a fucking retard. I haven't sold yet i think if tomorrow is a good day we'll be green what do you think?

>>21939893
God, I wish that was me

>>21939946
did you buy your monitors in 2007

>>21939946
It looks like you went to Goodwill or some government surplus store and bought every mid 2000s LCD you could find, are any of those above 720p?

>>21939941
>LEFT ARM OF VOLCKER, THE FORBIDDEN ONE

>>21939517
The text in your image talks about "growth stocks" though. I don't really consider Apple a growth stock anymore when it's at 2T marketcap and barely growing since 2015.

Tesla, sure. But a 1200 PE ratio is something completely different imo than the PE ratios that are mentioned in that text.

>>21939512
I thought the market was mainly just bots and big hedge funds? The average American is broke as fuck, so how can they move the market so much.

>>21939531
They have value but does a company like Apple really have 2T worth of value and TSLA really almost half a trillion? I'm just scared that their valuations aren't justified and that it will collapse on itself when I buy in.

On the other hand, I can see that people don't want to hold cash at the moment and don't really have anywhere else to put it.

>>21939554
But why is that, I honestly don't get it. If you're going to invest money you know that a split doesn't change anything, right? If splits increase the share price why not just infinitely split your stock for infinite money.

>>21939574
>>21939541
I've read some stuff about TSM in /smg/ before, I haven't looked into it much yet but I will take a look. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>21939638
I don't get AMD either. It has a PE ratio of 158. I can see them growing but can they really grow that much? Based on what? 5 years ago their share price was at like $2. I just feel like buying now is too late, but perhaps I'm looking at it wrong.


General question, am I looking at PE ratios too much? Do they not really matter?

Where’s the retard that said that the fed doesn’t control inflation

>>21939981
>>21939986
They came free with the tower, don't bully

> a miracle stock goes up 2x-3x in a matter of weeks
>that one fag who brags during a dip how he had bought and sold for a whopping 20% profit because he's a shrewd swing trader
>"still holding them bags, ey sonny?"
Good for you I guess

>>21939998
Some stocks that are good investments like NET have no or negative P/E ratios, growth is infinitely more important, I think you correctly identified growth as a weakness for Apple tho

>>21939946
Based i have the two left monitors as well in the attic still.
4:3 best aspect ratio to work on tbqh.
>>21939986
They're all above 720p they're not from the 90s retard they're most likely something with 1024

>>21939638
is it just me or is AAPL basically TSLA but with an actual solid revenue source and economic moat? still have the cult status but they sell so many fucking iPhones unlike TSLA's cars

BABA will be green again tomorrow

TSLA is a bubble that will pop when its manipulators are bored with it.
BUT WHY THE FUCK IS WAYFAIR DOING THE SAME THING?

Where do I find frens whk enjoy stock market stuff?

pretty ridiculous facebook had to go THAT low. no chance of closing above 300 tomorrow.

>>21940044
>Negative PE ratio
>Any good
As long as it's not too negative maybe it's ok but it's not a good sign to have it negative and especially if it's deeply negative.

I want to buy and hold something for 10-20 years what do I buy

Is t. fagman ded? If it wasn’t for Tesla and Microsoft I would’ve been fucked today and not in a good way

>>21940080
But literaly all its done is gone up. Why would it stop?

720p is 1240x720 retard, 1024x768 is XGA, which is SMALLER than 720p

tqqq

>>21940096
KTOV

>>21939893
>If I can't win, why?
Can't win at all if you refuse to try. Your choice is 0% or 1%.

>>21940087
forgot pic

>>21939890
EMT cert is nothing, bro. Those guys are the lowest tier of medical care. Go sign up for a class.

>>21940096
TSLA is the only answer.

>>21940095
NET has never made a profit but they're growing 50% YoY and has a fat fucking gross margin. Once growth slows down they can move to a cash cow stage and just print money.

>>21940109

Those screens don't have a 16;9 aspect ratio retard its most likely 1024x1280

>>21939946
I have one monitor connected to an eight year old pc running linux on a twenty year old Ikea desk.

>>21940104
Drop netflix

>>21940096
TSLA calls

>>21939963
Who is this semen demon and where can I find more of her.

>>21940024
did you buy your tower in 2007

>>21939953
That is unusual. Contact bank directly on their website or on official phone number and ask. Most likely this was scam call.

No seriously what could go wrong if Tesla apple and amazon do nothing but go up

>>21940166
I was always under the impression that the N was Nvidia. Have I been doing it wrong this whole time?

>>21940107
what goes up, must come down.

spinning wheel, round and round.

>>21940107
>It went up for a long time why would it go down
Do you know the definition of a bubble?

>>21940193
you can't stop progress, might as well profit from it.

Why does reddit like NAK so much?

>>21939953
Unless you've been committing fraud, I doubt it. If you've recently deposited more than a couple thousand (Usually 10k but I've heard other banks call for less) without letting them know, that could raise some red flags. Also if you've been withdrawing a lot to your brokerage account they might just want to make sure it's actually you.

You should absolutely call back, though.

>Federal Reserve's job is to provide currency elasticity
>what happened in March was a sudden collapse of the global dollar system cause by a shortage of dollars
>the Fed tried to alleviate these with dollar swap lines to other central banks
>these other banks (BoC, ECB etc) lent out dollar denominated bank reserves courtesy of the Fed
>the banks that received these reserves transferred them to their American subsidiaries
>all the "dollars" that were supposed to go overseas ended up back in America anyways
>but yeah the Fed totally controls the dollar bro, they can set inflation by flipping a switch bro

>>21940216
That's right and after the split it's going to continue to go up.

Before buying or selling, irrelevant of how much research I've done, or how obvious a play might be––I flip my lucky coin and call it. In 10 years, it has never been wrong.

PTON or DIS?
I will trust dubs

>>21940228
Because it's a penny stock.

technology

>>21940240
>After the split it's going to go up
Elon literally has to make 1 small mistake to upset the Zoomer crowd in the slightest and he will fall along with Tesla.
Young people genuinely think buying stock is supporting or helping the company directly they're retarded

Yep, this is it, the absolute tippy top of big tech. We finally got there after a decade. Nowhere to go but down.

>>21939932
>TSLA is a pump and dump
unbelievable we have people this retarded in smg,

>>21940244
interesting method. i've always offered a beef (buy) and chicken (sell) treat to my dog and see which one it takes. serves me well.

>>21940230
>You should absolutely call back, though.
On the official number. Don't call back whatever showed up on your phone.

>>21940278
Elon literally shit talked millenial bernouts on Twitter and nothing happened but some angry rosefag tweets.

>>21940278
What kind of controversial thing do you think he'll say next? I think he'll say something vaguely dismissive of the BLM movement. Probably nothing even bad (by their standards), but yeah.

>>21940262
I'd bet on THOTS over the mouse DESU F@M
>>21940278
Selling TSLA shares will be how TSLA makes money going forward

>>21940232
You can always just print more money and increase the money supply by a various set of tools as a central bank they absolutely control the total amount of dollars just not where they end up

>>21940216
It’s been steady since 2007

>>21940044
Yes when Amazon for instance was getting started they didn't take profits and therefore had a negative PE ratio because they reinvested everything into growth rather than taking profits. Which seems to me like a smart strategy, as long as they can clearly show growing revenue, profitability can come later. I understand that PE is not a good indicator of a stock's value in that scenario.

However, that only applies to companies that are growing quickly. Apple is barely growing at all and still has a PE ratio that's quite high. I don't see where their future growth is going to come from and why investors value the stock so highly. The same applies for many other companies, if they have such high PE ratios, where is their growth going to come from to justify that?

TSLA has a PE of 1200 and a market cap that's higher than all other car manufacturers in the world combined. Is the market pricing in that TSLA will be the only car manufacturer in the world or something? I'm pretty sure that if TSLA is going to see success with electric vehicles these companies will make electric vehicles too.

I don't know if I'm the retard here that's missing something or if the market is retarded.

>>21939953
If it's ever important enough, you'll get it on letterhead.

>>21940278
he already irritates the zoomers with his anti-communist tweets

>>21940187
Nah tower is actually pretty good, it's old but the specs check out, it has 16g Ram on an Asus board
I only paid 150 so I am happy with it, this monitor I bought on good will yesterday for 5 bucks, the other 2 came with the tower from a school auction according to the seller

>>21940304
Eventually the left will put two and two together with "white south african" and "worried about the collapse of western society" and realise the end game is whitey on mars

>>21940306
>Selling additional tesla shares will fund Tesla's activities in the future
You can only keep doing this for so long until people don't like that their stock isn't going up as much anymore as they used to see it, don't forget these ADD ridden kids don't handle anything well that doesn't give them consistent gratification

>>21940336
No you're pretty much right, Tesla is a bubble and Apple's PE ratio comes from coasting on past success, anticipation for 5G, and them sitting on more cash than god

>>21940341
Not the ones owning stock anon they aren't negatively affected by those messages of Musk.
The stockholding kids think Tesla is cool and Elon is contrarian because he's odd and different from normal CEOs which makes him cool in their eyes.
Because he doesn't agree with the media in some cases people like him, especially the gullible kids that buy into his shit

>>21939901
iktf

>>21940344
>1680x1050
I don't think I've seen that resolution, maybe ever. Probably just been a long time, though.

What CPU do you have? Could be alright.

>>21940345
"Here's why space exploration is inherently racist."

>>21940187
I have a 4k tv that I am going to mount on the wall behind them and a 8g gaming card I bought yesterday that sould be coming next week, I'll post the full set up once it's done, I just wanna play with stocks again

>>21940390
>Who do you think OWNS the media? Hello?
Elon is redpilled as fuck and only barely hides it

lmao at these newbabby retards that joined post march dip and spamming "bubble" at everything
so clueless and innocent

d... dozo...

25% NAIL
25% SOXL
25% FNGU
25% TMF
Can I hold these for a year or two or three? Should I buy FAS as well?

>>21940409
>here's why space exploration is racist
I dunno if you're joking but socjus fags actually unironically believe this

>>21940278
Do you own any Tesla shares anon?

>>21940422
Honestly, if those monitors were full 1080p it'd be kind of based. I actually don't mind the mid-2000's look.

>>21940371
AAPL has the iPhone and other related devices. i just don't think that's comparable to what TSLA sells so far. TSLA does not have the iPhone of cars.

>>21940424
Yes as soon as he caves in to media or gives in to anything that contrarian zoomers don't like or don't find edgy kids lose interests in him and his company.
It's all a promise that never ends

>>21940428
There's also always someone predicting a crash. It never stops.

>>21940485
The fun thing about being a billionaire is you don't have to cave to the media. What, is Twitter going to cancel him? He could buy Twitter.

>>21940409
It has an i5 running on 16g of ram it was a steal at the price he sold

>>21940428
>Calling Tesla a bubble because it needs to grow almost double in size every year for it to justify.the current valuation and or ratio
>This is somehow clueless

>>21940458
They can call it racist all they want. Those kinds of people will never be rich or successful enough to afford tickets to inevitably leave to Mars (in the far future.) Imagine what Earth would be like when all of the smart people leave lmao.

>>21940230
>>21940192
>>21940338
Thanks frens. I have recently deposited around 10k, the number I got called from isn't the same number from their website but it might have been his personal or work cell? I use Chase so unless someone would actually do an elaborate phone scam pretending to be a bank I should be OK

>>21940536
>Imagine what earth would be like when all the smart people leave
Are you implying people who like Tesla or go against any mainstream culture are inherently smart or anything?
You sound like a teen that likes Tesla a bit too much because you bought the hype around it and loves it because it's so cool and different and they'll change the world, which they of course never will, at least not without a hefty sum of government subsidies for anyone to be interested in buying anything from them

>>21940531
Not bad at all. I think I sold my 2015 i5 for like $90, so that's not a bad deal at all.

>>21940540
It could be a scam, yes. I would still just call the bank and say something like "Hey, I got call asking about establishing a point of contact. Seemed unusual but then I remembered recently deposited $10,000 which I earned from the stock market."

ILMN is a crabby fucking stock. None of my other stocks sawtooth like this fucker

In this thread:
Retards upset that they missed out on a stock invent bullshit reasons why it's a bubble despite doing zero actual research on it.

>>21940585
Not in the slightest. I don't really know or care who does it but provided we don't kill ourselves as a species, we'll probably be on Mars within the next 300 years. Could be Elon or it could be the US government. Most of the people who leave are going to be intelligent people because they see what (((they're))) doing here and how things are falling apart.

BROS
IS IT TIME TO EXIT

IS THIS THE WARM UP FOR THE DROP???

>>21939998
(You) for effort
Most people won’t read or reply though

>>21940536
>Imagine what Earth would be like when all of the smart people leave lmao.

It's actually getting pretty close to pic related, like technology is getting better every day but people seem to be getting dumber and through social media they can coordinate and roam on packs of dumb fucks singing ooga booga shit about big ass's, big dick's and hell o' cash

>>21940585
>>21940485
>>21940390
You seem to have an obsession with "edgy Tesla kids". Did you get bullied by some guy with a Tesla hat or something?

Mars will be exclusively for people smart and wealthy enough to save up for a Mars ticket, which pretty much excludes anyone who couldn't buy a middle class house and car on Earth. Obviously there's plenty of people who have money just because they were born into it, but they're more concerned with Instagram than space.

>>21940624
>bullshit reasons
>earnings priced in until the year 3220

>>21940232
Explain how diluting the total pool of dollars doesn't also dilute the total value of those dollars.

>>21940624
Chad walk while bitches run

How high is tesla goin tomorrow?

bros http://www.alternative-analytics.eu/dashboard/sentiment.html

>>21940678
Bank reserves have no monetary velocity, so they aren't effectively real dollars. They exist on bank balance sheets, but they never enter the economy.

>>21940633
Great conspiracy for your fan fiction about people going to mars to escape the Jews
>>21940651
>You don't like the average Tesla share holder
>You must have been bullied by one of them why would you otherwise be annoyed with them
>People are so obsessed with Instagram
You do still sound like a teen that bought a Tesla share in the way you speak it's very noticeable.

>>21940390
between this >>21940424
and joking that tsla price was "too high" it would hard to imagine him saying anything for his legions of fans to abandon him

>Tesla call I bought and sold 2 weeks ago for $2000 profit
>if I still had I’d be up 50k

What the fuck I might actually kill myself

>>21940262
DIS. Park revenue isn't even a factor right now and they're still climbing. Disney+ will do well for them in the future and they have the sports bubble contracts. I'm pulling for them personally.

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>>21940717
If you let your judgement be based on your personal dislike for your strawman stereotype of a Tesla shareholder you're doing yourself a disservice and contributing nothing of value. You sound like a dumb faggot made about rich white men.

>>21939826
Real talk MSFT chads. Whats the deal with tik tok? When can we expect a deal and what will MSFT go to when announced?

>>21940708
Monetary policy isn't only set with bank reserves we have policy rates as well.
Not to mention that the expansion of the total supply of dollars is not solely dependent on retail banks at all.
>>21940756
>A dumb faggot mad about rich white man
Ah so now the teen tries to stereotype me into something he can relate to because he saw it online, wonderfully humerous indeed.
Why would I be mad about Tesla or Elon or white men? I just dislike his fanbase because they've become a caricature of themselves.

Sell MU at a loss for TQQQ or SOXL?????
Or NAIL or TMF?????

>>21940262
Disney. Don’t bet against The Mouse

>>21940807
>TEEEEEENS REEE TEEEEENS EVERYONE BUT ME IS A TEEEEEENAGE REEEEE
nigga call IMAX we've discovered the world's new largest projector

ask me how I know you're exactly 20 years old and think that's a big life milestone

>>21940651
Mars will be a semi ghetto for the next 2,3 hundred years, first it'll be a mining field for big companies who can mine the shit out of the planet with out having some diversity graduate pretending to give a fuck to excuse her salary, little by little people are going to start moving down there for the job opportunities, you would probably get paid mad cash just to pretend to do something up there, then a government will be installed and go through independence, next thing you know new Australia is born and then it'll become rich as fuck.

But any dreams of Mars becoming the next gated community in our life times is just not happening

>>21939963
Nail is a good boi. TMF is doomping and needs to settle out a bit before I'm back in.
But if something fucky happens, bonds skyrocket, and you don't crash as hard.

>>21940262
>>21940831
>>21940727
Anon, listen to the men, Disney has made too many people too much money for too long to not get your slice of the pie.

Nooo! We got too cocky Nio bros.

>>21940676
Even if you value Tesla just as a conventional automaker and assume no real growth in energy and software, their predicted 2025 P/E is just 35.

It's only seems overvalued because literal retards have no ability to look beyond the current P/E in a god damn recession. Once you adjust for growth it becomes much more reasonable, even undervalued in some senses because a lot of the growth isn't being priced in.

>>21940724
Just learn from your mistakes, next time if you think a company is going to go up just buy and hold till the bitter end, put stop loses along the way but don't just sell like that, I leaned that the hard way, penny wise and dollars dumb

>>21940837
This is probably accurate with the exception that mining raw materials like steel or nickel or copper on Mars is so hilariously cost inefficient it will never happen without space elevator level future tech. If Mars exports anything it will be super value-dense products like semiconductors that require decades or centuries of infrastructure.

>>21940642
Thanks for the (You). As long as someone gives me some recommendations for things that I can buy and hold in this market that aren't too overvalued I'm happy. I just don't know what to do with the cash atm.

To the people who recommended TSM, would you recommend SOXX as well or just TSM?

>>21940884
>TSLA isn't overvalued because GROWTH!

a.k.a. they don't have shit now, but elon promises, one day, they will! eventually! just wait!

>>21940934
this is an even dumber argument than the Tesla bull thesis, Tesla's P/E is wack but the bull thesis wouldn't change even if they were posting a loss

the correct Tesla bear thesis is that their self driving tech keeps being delayed and the moat on their actual cars is being rapidly crossed by the much larger Volkswagen

>>21940814
>SOXL
3x leverage in SOXX is a terrible idea. SOXX and QQQ have performed similarly, but notice that SOXL does worse than TQQQ. This is because semiconductors are generally more volatile due to the cyclical nature of these manufacturers (can't respond quickly to fluctuating demand) outside of a few exceptions (e.g. TSM).

basically I like SOXX/BAKA over QQQ (which feels bloated right now) but not SOXL over TQQQ if that makes sense.

>>21940717
What person who wasn't seething because they missed out or lost money shorting TSLA would spend hours of their time talking shit about a company that has zero relevance to their lives?
>>21940934
You don't understand what you're talking about. Using current growth of key metrics you can predict what a company will do in the future and what their PE will be. Tesla is valued as a growth company because it's actually growing like one.

>>21940967
Why is there no 3x bull TSMC and Canadian Tire ETF

>>21940278
Elon tweeted "pronouns suck" and TSLA went up anyway

>>21940967
>BAKA
FUCK. what the fuck are these filters doing in /biz/

s.m.h. I mean S. M.. H.
VANECK VECTORS/SEMICONDUCTOR ETF

>>21940991
because that's what margin trading and options are for
which we can't do in a TFSA oops (can do limited options in some brokers like BMO and IB though)

>>21941007
ngl that's p funny desu senpai

>>21940872
>241B market cap
Obviously pretty high but I just don't understand how it's not higher when they'll be printing money off of IP licensing fees for centuries, they're parks are worldwide, they have 7 of the top 10 highest grossing films, and now the move to streaming.

Brainlet newfag question but
I noticed buying shares takes two days to settle on robinhood. I also saw someone say here they got fined with some term which I looked up, and it seems to imply that you fan get a penalty for selling a share that didnt settle yet? Just wondering if thats correct. It was called free something

Apple better go up tomorrow

>>21941031
eventually Congress might remember that it's actually illegal for movie producers and distributors to be the same company

haha never mind >congress

>>21940921
>Buy 2 shares of Tesla in August 2020.
>Splits 5-1
>Tesla eventually goes to moon and Mars and takes a few decades toset up infrastructure.
>Stock splits many more times
>Eventually have 4 million shares
>Each share with $5000
>My grandkids are set up and wealthy now
>I have guaranteed my family is happy

Thanks Elon

>>21941031
There's fear over the parks closure due to Corona. As soon as they open up and everyone takes a look at how well Disney was doing even during the closures, there will be a boom. But what do I know, I'm the baby from the ETrade commercials

>>21941054
it'll go up eventually and my covered calls will still give me premium

the top is in

>>21940965
>actual cars is being rapidly crossed by the much larger Volkswagen
That thesis is retarded. In 2025 Volkswagen states that they should be able to produce 1.5 million EVs each year. Tesla states that they'll be well over 4 million and they have the factories to prove it. Tesla has higher gross margins because of their brand value and vertical integration. There is no universe where VW will rapidly surpass Tesla with EVs and Tesla still has all the other advantages like not being held to sales coming from the dealership model that prefer ICE, their charging network, insurance, better software and self driving lead.

>>21941040
>noticed buying shares takes two days to settle on robinhood
Normal shares don't

>I also saw someone say here they got fined with some term which I looked up
Free Riding violations. It's when you exercise your option to buy shares at the strikeprice when you have options. You don't have to have money in your brokerage account to do this. You could then immediately sell the 100 shares while paying nothing.

Idk if you get fined, but usually they lock your account for 90 days. You also have to pay the debt you owe.

>>21941065
Disney wrote the book on IP law and tech companies are getting away with Standard Oil-tier buy and consolidate shit so I don't see Disney getting broken up any time soon.

>>21941040
If you're talking about a good faith violation (good faith that they're letting you buy the stock with unsettled funds, trusting you won't sell it before the original funds settle) it's real. I got tagged three times like a dummy so now I have to wait for funds to settle before purchasing stocks and options for 90 days.

>>21941089
>tesla
>goes to space
No, SpaceX goes to space. Tesla might get some scraps like a Mars buggy contract.

>>21939979
Also interested in XPEV. Thinking about getting in tomorrow. Its just fun money I am getting in with. Hoping they will tie onto that TSLA run to the mooooooon

>>21941100
>Disney bull double dubs
So many things I want to grab and hold like Disney for growth but the list keeps getting longer.

>>21941186
I feel you brother. Obviously they're shilled to the gills here, but TSM and NET seem like great holds. Only dropping about $500 a paycheck into my broker, it's frustrating having to pick and choose what stocks to buy. But that's the name of the game.

>>21941136
>>21941149
Oh okay. Not like I was being a hoodlum and trying to spend what I don't have. I just found it interesting

>>21941089

We sent people to the moon and robots to mars and we didn't get rich off it. We still have a probe out there.

How is Tesla making money on that exactly and how many decades is needed for this to be profitable?

>>21941007
Kek

>>21941149
Out of curiosity, did you ever pay what you owed? Did they just take the difference you owed out of whatever you made? What's that like?

>>21939826
MUH DIIIIIIICK! WHERE MY XIAOMI AND JD CHADS AT?
See you at 1000 bucks, buckos.

What do you think about buying Intel? Is AMD really destroying them as hard as people are saying?

I read that their 7nm chips are delayed for 12 months. Is this really such a huge deal? They say they're going to use TSM to supply them with the chips instead?

They're looking pretty cheap at 9 PE for a tech company or are they a dying company?

>>21940902
And don’t sell all of it. Keep 25% unless obviously technically damaged.

>>21941244
What I owed was just the unsettled funds. They gave three warnings after which they force me to wait the two days for funds from a sale to settle, then that goes to my cash available. Before, as soon as I made the trade I would have the cash available, I just couldn't sell whatever stock/option I bought with those unsettled funds

>Dasher: Nga T
fuck. it'll be one of those nights huh

>>21941132
Does VW have the infrastructure for EVs yet.

Any chance they announce a potential IPO for Neuralink tomorrow?

>>21941235
SpaceX is private specifically because Mars colonization probably won't be profitable for literally a century or more

>>21941235
fuck you for saving my Shinka gif you faggot

>>21941136
So if you don't have enough money initially, but you do when you exercise the option and immediately sell the shares and pocket the rest, what's the problem?

>>21941217
I'm planning on getting together a decent amount in my brokerage and pulling a wheel on positions I really believe in like TSM or AMD maybe plug and a few others here pretty soon, just narrowing down the list is annoying. Glad I found /smg/ though, it's given aggregate alright advice recently.

>>21941235
Also you redditspace with your shitty opinions
>how is Tesla making money
this has never mattered

>>21941285
I’m thinking of getting into a decently sized position with intel just because I believe that the production issues and so on will get worked out and the share price will recover. However, they’ve been lagging for quite a while now so unless there are organizational changes I’m bearish on them long-term. Sentiment seems to be pretty hard a against them right now and like you said p/e is insanely low so could be good short-medium term.

https://academic.oup.com/brain/article-abstract/143/7/2027/5857793
>Synonymous variants in holoprosencephaly alter codon usage and impact the Sonic Hedgehog protein
how do I profit off this

>>21941358
Absolutely. If you take the general advice and apply it correctly, /smg/ is a resource. If you chase every shill that pops up, you’re sunk

Should I buy Apple tomorrow

>>21941285
Could be that they recover in the summer and give decent returns by the end of the year. They've also had issues with smaller chipsets if I'm not misremembering, so maybe that irons out and by 6 months they can ride the good will and capitalize on 7nm recovery optimism.

>>21940278
you have unironic braindamage if you think tesla price is going up because of "zoomers" or "reddit"

>>21941385
>how do a company that I’m investing in’s financials matter?
Peak retard. This is the top

>>21941431
You could buy AAPL, or you could buy BRK.B which is like 50% AAPL 50% random boomer holds

>Bobo said the market was gonna crash today

>>21941331
Robinhood let's you borrow up to $1k at a time while it clears the bank. So if you deposit $100 into your RH, you're actually just borrowing their money. This is fine, there's not a problem. The problem arises when you buy an option. The actual option isn't the problem but rather if you exercise the right to buy the shares from the option.

So if the strike price was $10, each of those 100 shares would cost $10. All together that's $1,000. They let you just buy those 100 shares under the assumption you will add enough money to cover this purchase within the next 3 days. Technically, you could just sell them immediately after you ""bought"" them. You basically paid nothing but the premium for the option.

I assume they just lock your account for 90 days and take the money you owe them from the shares you ""purchased"". But I'm not sure how RH does it.

>>21941431
Sorry but you missed the Apple wave. Maybe try again 10 years ago when everyone else here was buying apple. Buy Microsoft or google, they’re the only big tech stocks that haven’t exploded yet

>>21941462
No, it's a bubble but he's right, so long as the stock price is going irrationally high financials don't matter

I predict Elon will be a very silly man in the near future in order to bait more TSLA shorts, keeping the short squeeze rolling and stock pumping.

>>21941299
No, they've been trying to partner with existing charging companies but that doesn't really matter because anyone can use those stations regardless of what they drive, including Tesla owners. Only Tesla owners can use the Tesla supercharger network which means they can build them more efficiency and they can support faster charge times. Their new V3 charger can charge up to 75 miles of range in five minutes with a Model 3.

If you means in terms of EV production, that is a no as well and they're already struggling and delaying their ID.3. EV production is much harder than they thought it would be and Tesla has a huge lead with what they learned over the last decade.

>>21941475
I even freed up funds to buy the dip, I'm disappointed in Powell for not fucking this up

>>21941462
According to my (current) 918% gains from TSLA, which will continue to increase until AT LEAST battery day, it doesn't, and you can suck my entire cock.

>>21941566
What do you think is the fair market price of Tesla?

>>21939848
Is selling covered tsla calls a good idea or financial suicide? Thinking about buying 100 for that purpose.

>>21941482
I know nothing about options, but this doesn't sound like a problem. As long as you have the money to pay the premium, if you don't have the 1k to pay for the shares, if when exercising the option your profit more than 1k, how come they don't just take the 1k, you take the rest of the profits as well as the shares? Or is that how it works?

>>21939848
Fuck me i sold at 1475

>>21940044
>>21940142
>>21941217
Question about NET. I use cloudflare for almost all my websites but they have a great free plan that does pretty much everything I need (DDOS protection, hosting IP hiding, no limits to the amount of sites you can use on the free plan, etc) so I see no need to pay for what they're offering since they give it to me for free. I think this is the case for most small webmasters.

Do you think they'll discontinue their free plan or restrict it in some way or will they be able to get enough people to use their paid plans the way it is?

>>21941387
>>21941443
If they do not recover, what's the issue with using the chips supplied by TSM?

How many days last time did it take for the market to continue going up after the retard opened his mouth? Everything important is down today.

>>21941580
Market price is, and will always be, defined as what someone is willing to pay for available shares of a company. It appears that is currently defined at about $2,247 for an 1 share of Tesla. No amount of reasoning or bias can deter this evident truth.

>>21941593

Theoretically you could lose potential profit If it skyrocketed above your strike but as long as yoir strike price is above the average you bought in at you can’t actual “lose” anything it’s all profit. Your biggest risk would be having that much money wrapped up in Tesla in the first place

>>21941624
If they follow the usual model they'll probably lock random features you use behind paywalls until you begrudgingly buy in because it's easier than moving to AWS

Is CAT a good investment to balance my portfolio? My entire portfolio is big tech and fintech companies right now, thinking of grabbing a boomer stock to balance

>>21941664
The market is a bunch of retards playing on their phones giving data to massive neural networks that nobody understands. Remember ZOOM? Not Zoom, the ticker ZOOM.

Yo, anyone have any insight on how tesla/apple's implied volatility will be affected on Monday? Never been through a split, curious if it will have an earnings style IV crush.

>>21941667
it's always easier to move to AWS. Just more expensive.

>>21941665
I am just concerned that a bubble pop would put a quick damper on the strategy. Maybe 400 aapl would serve this purpose with similar premiums less inherent risk.

>>21941517
If that's the case, I don't see them catching up production wise in 4 years. It took Tesla many more years and coasting on ever delayed Giga-factory hype to get where they are. That being said I guess Tesla has outlined the pitfalls of constructing necessary facilities but that's not much if VW doesn't have a functioning product yet.

>>21941667
If AWS offers a similar service as Cloudflare then switching should be as easy as changing your nameservers because that's the only thing you have to do to use cloudflare on your site. I don't know if they (or anyone else) offers what Cloudflare offers for free though so if they're only offering it for free now to grow their customer base and later make it paid I can see it being a good strategy as long as there are no good free alternatives.

>>21941700
Take the defense hedge pill, there's even a 3x ETF but I wouldn't reccomend that because they mostly just crab and pay dividends. But if there's a big war, yee haw.

>>21941624
>TSM
Not an expert, but I'd guess is a bad PR blow and also adds to costs.

>>21941462
look zoomer or 30yo boomer shit doesn't matter we grew up in a bubble. this is the bubble century. we will have higher highs and lower lowes with a shorter and shorter period until the day the jew dies. enjoy it, crash is soon and the next ATH is right around the corner.
we the bubble generation are judged by our consoooming. if you want to be admired or gain social status it doesn't required bloodlines or money, it can be achieved with debt. learn to profit from the greed of the consooomer. profit as they climb their social status higher by standing on a mountain of debt consooming the products they are told are better.

>>21941726
You could sell calls and buy puts?

>>21941769
TSMC is booked up 2 years in advance so Intel would have paid big bucks to skip the queue and will either have to get their shit together or continue to shell out.

>>21941580
>>21941710
If you want a retarded answer to your retarded question, I will say it is currently a lot higher than normal, even compared to other tech stocks, because of insider speculation that Tesla has made a significant improvement to the material engineering of their batteries, not only increasing the total life and charge duration, but also decreasing the dependence on rare earth materials. Elon has been talking about this for years and has even dropped hints regarding this since the pandemic started. You should be very suspicious on the locations planned for the gigafactories upcoming, as well as where the one in China is. The Boring company is heavily involved, as their meme traffic tunnels are almost not their line of work. I think the Vegas one will end up being the only they ever do, if that even happens. Currently the stock desperately needs a split, and I can almost assure you that even after it does, the price will go right back to where it is if the material engineering that I believe has been accomplished is announced. Tesla is not a car company and has not been for many years.

>mfw futures jump +10% after trump calls out the jews
TAKE MY DIGITS, TAKE MY ENERGY, MR. TRUMP
MAKE MY PORTFOLIO GREAT AGAIN
KEK WILLS IT

What happened to natural gas guys?

>>21941828
So if I generally buy the Tesla thesis but think battery day is going to be a wet fart like the Cybertruck presentation, wait and buy the dip?

>>21941845

What’d he say?

>>21941847
Wait what the fuck? Is this something I should go all in on in my meme acocunt?

Why is tesla mooning every day while my girl continues to be undervalued? Does tesla have a fucking sexy SUV on the way?

>>21941886
It looks abysmal if you zoom out.

>>21941547
just look at what UVXY does if it starts mooning with high volume expect a sell off

>>21941857
The battery day presentation will be the most important presentation in the history of the company. More than the semi and cybertruck combined, easily. Though that's not to take anything away from the semi, I think that vehicle is currently the future of all land shipping.

>>21941889

The reason is there isn’t an actual reason that’s the reason. Sometimes trends just happen and people keep buying and pumping it higher and it snowballs. “The trend is your friend” is the cliche market adage for this.

>>21941872
he hasn't gone up

>>21941910
If uvxy starts mooning the selloff has already happened

>>21941886
no lol, my idiot friend is down around $18K (-50%) because he's been holding 100% HNU for like 2-3 years. He got baited into holding it forever when he was up like +100% at some point.

remember, TAKE YOUR PROFITS. At the very least, a stop loss like -10% or -20% when you're really deep into green.

>>21941889
First of all, that truck is now Lordstown Motors, which is a spinoff that WKHS owns 10% equity plus 1% revenue or something on. Second, WKHS is a pure play in the box van market. In the near future, you'll see things like electric taco trucks, and it will be WKHS chassis. Not a Tesla competitor.

>>21941917
Yeah that's what Musk says but Musk says a lot of things and I think battery day being a history changing event is about as likely as a 2024 Mars landing. Elon time but with importance.

When is apple gonna go mega green

being australian is suffering

How can we make as much money as possible on the Tesla bubble and crash?

What’s the best way to buy stocks with iPhone? Robinhood is a pile of dog shit

>>21941947
I'm up 70% on Carrier but I'm not taking profits because I'm a long term bull on it. Is that dumb? I can't think of a lot of companies I'd rather have money in than Carrier in 5 years.

>>21942009

A week ago

>>21939953
Probably a scam. Ignore. They will send a physical letter if need be

>>21942025
webull is the next one ig

>>21941985
That's fine to think that too. Just remember that the entire business model of Tesla fails without the best batteries in the world. The cars, trucks, solar panels, cold batteries, and many more goes kaput.
And it hasn't looked bad lately. I think there will be many people very sour when they sell the news and see what happens next.

Can anyone confirm whether tesla press events result in a pump and dump? Like is there a history of this happening? I've never really followed tesla stock until now because it had always hovered around 200-300 for years. I'm just concerned that with the parroting of "battery day! battery day! battery day!" in these threads that it's just self-compounding hype with no merit. sort of like the insane fear yesterday that today was going to crash.

I'd prefer to make moves based on evidence and not random guesses. I'm fine with cashing out if so, but if there isn't, I'll just keep holding it.

>>21942025
Get a real broker like fidelity and actually start making money. Only retarded zoomers who buy Tesla at $2200 use Robinhood

>>21942010
At least you're not black...

chinks are crashing Nasdaqnny again

>>21942066
I don't think they'll be BAD batteries. Just that I expect more like an iterative improvement in range and charge time. And I don't see how that justifies how crazy high the stock is right now.

nice digits

>>21941857
It depends. Most of the battery improvement will be priced in but Musk could always unveil something like a Model X and Model S refresh and send the stock soaring again.
>>21941745
It mostly comes down to an inherent difference in speed and innovation that separates Tesla from the rest of the automakers. Tesla can buy land and literally have cars come off the line within a year. Meanwhile VW is aiming for 2022 for ID.4 production from the Chattanooga Assembly Plant which already exists. Once Tesla secures more battery material deals for their cell production, there is nothing stopping them from producing as many EVs as are needed. Every new factory is basically a copy and paste of the old one and they'll come online even faster.

>>21942030
dunno about Carrier, but a leveraged stock on natural gas is just not something you want to hold for very long. Natural gas stocks themselves are just stagnant dividend stocks, although corona made shit like Ovintiv basically grow 400% (after dumping really hard) since March just like TQQQ.

BABA to $275 by tomorrow?

>>21942100
Not sure what I can tell you if you can't understand the inherent value of these new batteries then.

OMG ALL THESE FUCKING APPS ARE FUCKING GARBAGE HOW DO YOU EVEN BUY THIS SHIT

>>21942145
Aight battery pill me then.

>>21941793
what the fuck is this comic even trying to say

>>21942157
I'm sorry sir, this is not the place for shitcoins

>>21942157
use cashapp

>>21942157
this could be it this time guys, this might be the top

>>21941889
>In the near future, you'll see things like electric taco trucks, and it will be WKHS chassis
Damn bullish af

>>21942108
Not too bullish on Tesla in the near future (sour grapes because I missed the boat at 400 so I lie to myself) but I think I'm hopping in after the split and waiting for battery day to hodl or dump then buy any dip and hodl some more for a few years even. Pretty confident they're getting this EV thing right so far and can innovate in the future.

>>21942240
No seriously that's what the Ryder partnership means, small businesses will come to Ryder for some sort of boxvan, and Ryder will shill them on an electric WKHS truck, with Ryder servicing and charging

That's why I'm bullish on WKHS even if I'm out of it right now because I sold at $18

Anyone buying NVIDIA calls for the 9/1 announcement?

>>21942157
>apps
imagine being you

>>21941847
Buffet bought the bottom

>>21942288
Is this what Ryder typically does with they're box vans? That's big if true because I'd imagine the maintenance and parts is a healthy amount of that contract.

Anyone have any thoughts on SQ? I was looking at other/similar companies like Paypal and Visa with SQ looking to have better growth.

>>21942288
I've been swinging every single day accumulating more. I'm up to 450 shares. Lordstown was literally mentioned at the RNC, and as soon as that contract is announced I'll make a good chunk of money. It wont be never work again money, but it will be a nice down payment on a house. Hopefully I can stop renting, all on the back of horsie.

>>21942288
If you’re so bullish why don’t you buy back in at 16.50?

Also I’m listening to the 48 laws of power audiobook and one of his chapters is about tesla because his whole career was cucked. right after I typed the above post it said “or suffer the fate of the teslas of the world”

>>21942348
Same. 2k shares in, I think the initial sell off the contract announcement should be a decent profit, then I'll look to re-enter on the dips.

>>21942309
god damn I want a corn dog right now

>>21942378
I probably will buy back in tomorrow, I wanted to see what effect Powell had on the market

>>21940837
>Mars will be a semi ghetto
Sounds like the plot of Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans
Kinda based.

>>21942343
V > MA > PYPL > SQ

>>21942100
Batteries have always been an iterative improvement and the new technology isn't that big of a surprise. TSLA is soaring in part because investors finalize realized that battery costs have fallen so much that Tesla can produce an EV drivetrain cheaper than other automakers can produce the equivalent ICE. They know it's only going to improve to the point where it won't even be close and EVs will be cheaper to buy on top of already being cheaper to operate. The other automakers are going to have their margins decimated as they try to switch production over to EVs and catch Tesla. They're like companies that produced wagons before the automobile came along. Only a handful of them survived.
>>21942278
My track record for predicting TSLA movements was extremely good but I no longer have any idea what will happen, only that any great dip should be bought and nearly everyone is best off buying TSLA and then forgetting about it for the next few years.

>>21941726
You can hedge with a debit put spread and an OTM put.

>>21939946
Figure a way to stack those monitors so you have more desk space for your tendies
Looks comfy desu

Will BABA touch $275 tomorrow?

>>21939946
1 monitor
usually just use a tablet though
maybe 15 min total of looking at charts the last few weeks

Who /Chewy/ here?

>>21942326
I started investing in the Energy sector the same week Buffet bought in and i'm up 22%. Fat dividend next month too.

Guy's honestly GOAT'd

Any of you faggots thinking about getting calls on WDC?

They say who da hell is dem man dats mah partna dem

B-baba chads were gonna be okay, r-right

>>21942463
I'll dump half my Tesla set aside money shortly after the split and buy dips with the other half. Hodl and a share or two every month after that unless things go super tits up by battery day/EOY.

>>21942639
You reckon we hit $275 tomorrow?

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>>21939941
Nobody correctly analyzes Tesla. Same people that shit on Tesla own shit coins. One is a company that gies to space if it wants. The other is a chuckie cheese token.

>>21942803
Charles Entertainment Cheese?

>>21942803
As someone who literally has anime porn of SpaceX products saved, you need to realize Tesla IS NOT SPACEX. You own NOTHING of SpaceX. If (when) SpaceX goes to a trillion dollar market cap, it's not taking TSLA with it.

How much do you need to make it considering inflation? Currently a good house can cost nearly half a million. Am I correct to think one million will be the new minimum to making it?

>>21942750
Adding to watch list. Thanks./

Kek, Apple's gonna roll out AR headsets in 2022. AR Content for the Apple+ service is a coming out this year. New 5G iphone later this year to. Good things are a happening.. $125ish a share (post split) won't last long. $300+ will be back with a vengeance.

>>21942647
Smart. I accumulated the last round today and plan to just hodl through the split and battery day.

>>21942309
I am for sure.

>>21942846
"making it" is entirely based on your own level of ambition, some people want a comfy house on a few acres of land in the mountains by a lake, others want a superyacht with anti-pirate missiles sponsored by Raytheon

>>21942842
That girl looks reusable

>>21942890
I want a lot of money so I can be powerful. I don’t care about buying expensive things I want to buy people and influence and own significance portions of major corporations

Making it; very bare bones number, however much your making now a year; double it. There, now your set for life after retirement. This assumes the cost of everything doubles by the time you die and your current debt level don't go higher or is wiped out altogether by the time you die as well.

>>21942967
>>21942890
One is attainable the other is a dream

>>21942968
Making it: when you can pull <25% of your portfolio out to retire with and still own and invest in stocks while retired

>>21942890
I just want enough to do nothing and live modestly. I would see a yacht as more of an obligation than a luxury. I'd rather have a kayak or fishing canoe. Then I'd want enough side money to leave a country if communist ruin it.

>>21942846
Five million was the old "make it" number
The new number is 20 million

>>21942968
What if I'm making nothing?

>>21942991
It’s attainable if you get a good job. I’m just investing now to set myself up better in 5 or 10 years when I’m an executive or ceo or some shit

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/27/walmart-wanted-majority-tiktok-stake-teamed-with-alphabet-softbank.html
>SoftBank’s Claure felt Walmart’s all-American image and Google’s cloud computing infrastructure backbone could be a way in for the Japanese technology company,
>Walmart's All American Image

>>21939826
>tradingview.com
I know some indicators, but What does really mean the "time" in "Technical analysis" tab?
(1 minute, 5 minutes... )

>>21942995
So decide how much you need per month to live comfortably, multiply that by a reasonable dividend yield, and work your way up to that amount in fixed income investments

>>21942803

It’s trash. BOOM analyzed.

>>21943061
ok, THIS post is the top. this is fucking it
i'm OUT

>>21939890
not gonna get in because of affirmative action
best of luck on the CARNITAS investment,ese.

>>21943061
what the hell is going on

>>21943085

Quitter

>>21941040
>I noticed buying shares takes two days to settle on robinhood.
What? They should be settling immediately

>>21943061
If you set a one minute time scale, each candle is one minute. So that is the time scale for each division in the chart.
On the other hand, some of the graphs also have a way to change the "whole chart" time scale in the bottom left, from one day to years to all-time

>>21943105
Hopefully the next wave of retards to usher in a new high

>>21943085
>Not riding the wave of retarded money

ngmi, no risk no reward

>>21943085
The only problem is that cash is a risky asset and bonds suck and inverse ETFs have always been a losing bet, And if there’s a rush to cash then that’s risk off and that could mean a dollar rally.

Wait what am I missing?

>>21943166
You're right. All in on bitcoin.

>>21942025
I use fidelity. It works well enough

>>21940724
They'll be other opportunities.

>>21943121
While on that topic, there's a useful thing tradingview added recently for most of their built in indicators. If you go in to settings for the indicator you will now see a 'resolution' setting. If you change this to a particular period, it will always display that indicator calculated for the period selected regardless of candle period you're viewing. Note this will not work on user created indicators. Eg, if you're looking at 1hour candles but still want to see where the 50 day SMA is, you would set your SMA to 1day resolution.

>>21940902
Don't forget about the after market. News can plunge the stock price below the stop loss.

>>21942100
The new battery will literally revolutionize batteries and make Li ion obsolete. They'll be nuclear power and will last literal years on a single charge, only costing a few times the price of a similarly sized Li ion. In essence, the world of technology and in turn the world in general will change on battery day. Don't ask me how I know I've already said too much

>>21940923
PFE

>>21943242
bread
>>21943242
this one's fresh
>>21943242

>>21941040
yes its true at Fidelity

>>21942995
Same for me. Plus having enough to pay of my student loans quickly. I grew up modestly and I can live the rest of my life like that

>>21943233
>battery day will reveal fallout style fusion cores as the future of transportation
I wouldn't even be mad

>>21943233
>They'll be nuclear powered
That's all you had to say. I'm all in now.

https://youtu.be/233LiQmxOKI

>>21943121
Sorry everyone, I wasn't clear enough. My fault.
I was talking about "Technical analysis" tab.
Oscillators, Moving Averages, Pivots, ok ok
but Why the selected timeframes? some indicators doesn't make sense

>>21943233
>Car crash causes nuke.
Based im ready to gtfo

>>21942083
Heh, yeah. Dummies. I bought my 3 shares at $1987. See ya later poors.

People kinda doubt that Apple will hit 700 per (325 post split) but remember this; no one could've thought Amazon would hit 3000+ either.

>>21943619
You think it'll go up $200 in one day?

>>21943720
Nigga where did he say the same day you fucking stupid cum slurping roach