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Somebody post that jordan peterson image with the "she pulls her dick out", that one always cracks me up.

Fuck off jordan Peterson aren’t you in a coma in russia

>>21828678
But it’s fun

>>21828678
/biz/tards are so far gone they fight for them. Survivorship bias

>>21828730
that is chaos

>>21828678
Fuuuck, alright, I'm gonna clean my room, getting right on it. Relax, okay?

>>21828678
Take benzos and let russian doctors give you brain damage

>>21828834

peterson_vocaroo.mp3

>>21828730
Here’s the best one I have. How to profit from this?

>>21828834
Benzo withdrawl can last years. He's doing fine

>>21828949
*gifts you reddit gold*
Here's your profit gentlesir!

>>21828678
i just started listening to this guy, i like his insight. why do you guys hate him?

>>21829001
His lectures on Jung are good. Otherwise, the guy is a pseud.

>>21828678
wasn't this faggot a speaker for the insurance scam, "People Helping People (PHP)", created by the notorious scammer/youtuber, Valuetainment?

>>21829047

>>21829001
You listen to anyone long anough, it becomes stale and predictable.

>>21829001
He's a phony self-help kike

>>21828995
You’re too kind m’lady.
>>21829001
He’s babby’s first philosopher. Dig deeper if you think you can handle it

>>21829082
Did you see him debate Zizek? Was just sad.

>>21829001
considering his rhetoric, it's just too funny how he's a drug addict and his daughter is a whore

>>21828730

>>21828678
Can the good doctor even speak these days after his brain damage?

>>21829001
4chan originally loved this guy back in 2016 when he was a fringe professor fighting back the SJWs in universities, then 2017-18 he started getting popular and his message was classical liberalism/individualism which triggered /pol/. The nail in the coffin was JP becoming very popular with normies and at this point it was all over for the 4chan autist to be a fan, just like when Rick n Morty got big with redditors (Rick n Morty was loved on /co/ before it got big).

>>21829156
He's not even a philosopher, he's a speaker and lecturer and there's nothing wrong with anything he says. Trannies are mad at him because he doesn't want to use pronouns and they're all giddy at the first sign of weakness he exposes, which is ironically for trannies mental health issues.

>>21829197

I can understand his thinking though. He followed a path that led him to drug abuse, so he does what he can to help others avoid it. It's sad that he's intelligent enough to know the mis-steps he made, but couldn't avoid ending up in his situation. Peterson honestly helped me through some dark times; they're still kind of shit, but much much better thanks to some of his insights.

>>21829257
I know I give him too much credit, but I stand by my assessment. He’s a preschool teacher

>>21829252
He single handedly killed the huge feminism wave, using a fuckton of undisputable studies and facts, presented in a perfectly neutral and unpolitical way. Now we just need someone to do this to BLM

>>21829322
Every successful person has a bunch of losers like you coming after them on the internet where they can voice their irrelevant opinions.

>>21829359
>pot meet kettle
Why do you idolize him?

>>21829001
I don't hate him, I think his popularity is a reflection on the absolute state of the modern world and modern philosophy.

In fact I'd say most of the societal problems we have is due to the corruption and ineffectiveness of modern philosophy, we need new innovative ideas and solutions for modern problems but here's some Nietzche and Camus, a little bit of Marx here, maybe even some Stirner or something, some psued analysis book-report on movies, video games or TV shows.

coolio.

>>21829213
Classic

>>21829384
I don't, I'm just refuting what you say.

Wash your're are penis

He is literally Goldstein from 1984; a member of the Inner Party (that is, he's a tenured professor and UN speaker), supposedly a traitor and the most egregious existential enemy to the Inner Party, but in reality is entirely propped up as a Two Minutes Hate boogeyman for the Inner Party, while also serving as a conspicuous siphon for any would-be dissidents against the party line to gather around and render themselves conspicuous.

>>21829399
You’re not though. I have yet to see a real argument or meaningful refutation on your part, simply ad hominems

>>21829436
Then you have yet to read the posts I made, don't you? Luckily for you there's IDs on /biz/.

>>21829252
/co/ is a reddit colony and pretty small board, your post is dumb but this sticks out especially.

>>21828678
tell me any other pportunity for such fast gains as uniswap.
the uniswap explosion of 2020 is like summer 2017 on crack. nothing even compares.

Based.

>>21829594
It will end in tears for many like 2017. I ain't judging though, enjoy your casino capitalism.

>>21829709
USD will end in tears.

>>21829705
He should be bigger than Peterson

>>21829751
The USD is in demand by every country worldwide. Crypto shell games are probably more counterproductive than good.

>>21828678
You’re a newfag aren’t you?
They’re filter threads so Redditors and normies can fuck off.

>>21829885
USD is losing its position as a reserve currency. Down 11% on the dollar index since March, such a dramatic fall that hedge funds have turned bearish against it for the first time in years.

>>21829156
i started with alan watts, whereas i think he's more fanatical, peterson is more of a realist

>>21830146
These same retards went bullish on the EU recently. Watch the dollar rise again after the election.

>>21828678
I cleaned my room and my life is still shit, Jordan!

>>21828678
But I hate even the idea of working.

>>21830184
Watts is a complete fucking hack

>>21829885
Imagine still thinking this

>>21830382
It's true, plenty of data supports this notion. Or did woke twitter tell you the dollar is dead?

>>21829001
some incels dont like that he advocates that a huge portion of a men's worth in life comes from providing to his family

but i've gone all-in on axie love potions, there's no turning back now

I'm not Mr. Peterson, I just hold BAT. Just because it isn't a scam doesn't mean it isn't a PIECE of SHIT though.

>>21830448
Not him but I wish it was haha

Also I feel bad for this guy, the fact he's spent his career helping many others but can't save himself is relatable somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSQSETwnrio

Clean up your heckin' roomerinos

>>21828678
someone please post or link to that deepfake of him refusing to sell his linkies.

>>21829156
Hes not a philosopher, Camus is also incredibly babytier btw

>>21831259
Literally me

>>21831507
I thought Myth of Sisyphus was pretty based.

>>21832005
It is, but Camus is still entry-tier.

>>21828949
Molymeme is a limp dick grifter who’s just as skittish about the JQ as Peterson.

>>21832163
Yeah well, we’re talking about babby tier “philosophers” and he’s far more advanced than Dr. Peterson. Who would you recommend?

>>21829001
I don't hate him, I love him.
He's a perfect example of how philosophy nerds are such fart-huffing brainlets that they'll ascribe to anything written with scholarly diction, including the unhinged ramblings of a Canadian boomer strung out of his mind on Klonopin.

>>21832163
You are pretentious douche-tier, Sir.

>>21829252
This but Peterson is still based to me.

>>21829001
he holds onto traditional values that seem to trigger edgy kids and SJWs. He's lucid, and a public figure, so there's going to be a lot of FUD about the guy. He's got some good ideas about how to be in the world, and it's broken down into understandable chunks. Also his voice speaks with the authority of the Father, so people who haven't had a father figure will either gravitate away from or towards him.

>>21829047
lol people call jung pseud. Calling something pseudoscience or pseudointellectual is self-defeating grow up.

>>21832163
Whats the point of deep philosophy if no one reads them or understands them ? To feel superior about one intellect ?

>>21832163
lol @ establishing a hierarchy of philosophy. Everyone's pointing to truth as best they can. Why bash on people for doing the best? Judgmental fuck.

He's a genius and people who don't get him are most likely edgy brainlets pretending to be smart.

>>21829001
Unironic answer: most people here actually liked Peterson until he went mainstream.
The wignats turned on him once they realized he wouldn’t touch Jewish power or Holocaust revision.
The tradcaths always hated him for being an atheist.
Now that he’s perpetually in rehab and his daughter is a certified Insta whore, everyone just dunks on him because he’s such an easy target.

>>21832663
>The tradcaths always hated him for being an atheist.
>Peterson
>Atheist
what

>>21832750
He calls himself a “Christian atheist” i.e. he believes in the moral tenants of Christianity without believing in the Holy Trinity.

>>21831507
Camus is fucking great and you're a faggot.
I can already tell that you're a fan of Stirner (who was a retard by the way).

>>21832628
>He's a genius

>>21832864
Source on this ?

>>21832913
Google it

>>21832501
Just watch his horrible debate with Zizek. What else can I say?

People who trash psychology seem to forget how potent marketing agencies have become. Many of Jung's ideas about the unconscious seem like attempts to reconcile his own inner turmoil. I can't say for sure whether he was onto something profoundly genius, or whether he was neurotic and self-deluded to a grandiose degree.

>>21833095
Typical pajeet
Hope your village burn

>>21833166
God I hope we get flags soon. I bet you’re from some retarded nonwhite country.

>>21833246
Lmao
Nice try pajeet. You wont hide under the fact that there is no flag for long

>>21833116
>likes zizek
Literally the king of midwit pseuds, I bet you’re a college sophomore lmao

>>21833294
Timestamp hand pic or stfu nigger

>>21829157
I didn’t think it was as bad as what people were saying. Zizek seemed be taking it way more seriously. Heaps better prepared. I think Peterson got too stuck focused on the communist manifesto. Peterson was very pin focused, whereas Zizek looked more at the wider picture. You can’t always win. Zizek hasn’t. Nor will Peterson.

>>21833331
I barely follow the man.

>>21832909
Debate me brainlet

>>21833367
Nah pajeet the burden of proof is on you, post your timestamped hand pic poopoo

>>21833372
Žižek didn't take shit seriously. All he did was prepare his boring little high school essay and avoid any real confrontation with Peterson

>>21833441
Lol you won’t do it because you’re a shitskin.
I should have known, you can’t even google a simple question. Typical nigger laziness.

>>21828678
Fuck you you're not my real dad

>>21833479
Peterson took it seriously and didn't know what the fuck he was talking about it. Was really hard to watch the entire video.

>>21833494
>sirs you're asking for my sources sirs just find the sources yourself sirs trust me sirs
Pajeet, if I had to google everything you people say, I wouldn't have a minute left at my side.

>>21833538
>I wouldn't have a minute left at my side.
That’s not even a real phrase, ESL nigger

>>21833416
>Debate me
Ok.
Aff: Peterson is a junkie hack who is so hopped up on benzos that he thinks pic related is meaningful in any human sense.
State your Neg case or forefit your speaker points.

>>21833612
>he can’t understand the pic
What is it like to have an IQ of 70?

>>21833587
Pose too complicated for your Pajeet brain ? Let me speak in simpler terms.
If me search things you say, will lose precious time to do other things

>>21833529
He knew exactly what he was talking about.

Žižek was deflecting from Peterson's points because Žižek himself knows deep inside that communism is flawed.
Instead he made up a boring essay on China and happiness

>>21833677
>”pose”
>space before punctuation
>”if me search”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lrn2English faggot

>>21833612
His points on order and chaos and recognizing the transcendent potential in the individual are deeply deeply profound. What don't you understand here, anon?

Jordan Peterson himself is a scam for pseudo-intellectual and so called incels. Men that are in the process of awakening to more information about the universe but are too cucked to learn more about reality flock to Peterson. Peterson is for the afraid, lazy and weak willed individuals who want canned truth that is easily digestible but not to far outside the lines of so called "reason" and "logic".
If you could short cucks somehow, I would put money on Jordan Peterson.

>>21833479
Zizek is in his seventies. He’s practically dying. You can tell he is a social mess. Needs all the help he can get. I’m no deluded lefty. But I think he still has some interesting insights.

>>21833771
>order and chaos and recognizing the transcendent potential in the individual are deeply deeply profound
Counterpoint: "Don't wallow in your own filth" is only a profound notion if you're an absolute fucking loser.

>>21833821
Don't get me wrong either I think he's very intelligent and has some good points.
I just prefer Peterson's views in general.

Also Žižek is practically my neighbor

>>21833891
You'd be surprised how many people wallow in their own destructive patterns their entire lives.

As a matter of fact most of 4chan is suicidally depressed.

Taking some responsibility for the situation and trying to better yourself is the first step ot a better life.
If you won't do it who will?

>>21833667
>tfw too dumb to understand pic related

>>21833994
Admitting that you'd have to be a total failure to glean any benefit from Peterson's "teachings" is a bold rhetorical move.

>>21828678
Like chinlink with its exaggerated and fake partnerships and the team dumping tokens to line their own pockets?

>>21834035
Not what I'm saying.

That's just the bottomest end of the spectrum.

We all have our pathologies and are naked in vulnerable faced in front of life and the potential for personal growth is basically infinite. When you're striving towards that transcendance you're in touch with the divine and that is what makes life truly meaningful.

>>21834035
>A self help author writes books for people who want to improve their lives
>Hurr durr gotcha
Does this kind of room temperature reasoning actually work in anyone?

>>21833679
Peterson goes after classical Marxism and finds Zizek is in agreement with a more extensive critique. Peterson then struggles on nearly everything Zizek askes him. The end.

After that I stopped following Peterson lol

>>21834182
*on

>>21833929
Yeah, I’m with you.

Ha that would be an interesting man to bump into.

>>21834218
I suggest you rewatch the video.

Pay attention to any concrete useful information Žižek might have said how Communism can be applied or aid us in our happiness (protip - you won't find much)

>>21832663
>wouldn’t touch Jewish power
he debated religion with shapiro on some podcast, in which he made it clear that his impression was that judaism differs from christianity in that jesus believed we're all divine, whereas jews demand a goyim-class. he also said he'd "never been able to have this discussion before". he knows. he's just not a bigoted polfuck about it.
also this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9cxABJ90g

>>21834173
>>21834182
If you think the wine aunt section of Barnes & Noble is profound in any sense then you're a retard of the highest caliber.
>When you're striving towards that transcendance you're in touch with the divine
This sentence is literally void of meaning. Striving for the divine is kind of the definition of "transcendence", brainlet

>>21834484
I meant transcendence as in self-transcendence the process of self-betterment and personal growth. The feeling you get from that is akin to the divine (if such a thing exists at all, of course)

>>21833116
I did awhile ago, it was a little sad. Neither of them were listening to the other and they would use the same words but it was obvious they weren't speaking about the same things. But I won't take a single snapshot of someone else's experience and say from that I know all I need to about them, especially if they have an entire body of work available, for free online.
>Many of Jung's ideas about the unconscious seem like attempts to reconcile his own inner turmoil
This is the nature of dealing with the unconscious. There is a personal conscious interface through which the unconscious is made conscious. It's because consciousness is more or less a filtering mechanism. Most of the academy is still stuck in a strict materialist, newtonian mechanics mindset and are wayyyyy behind the power curve when it comes to the kind of direct, personal experience that Jung was talking about. Science and philosophy advance one funeral at a time. The desire to expand your conscious awareness beyond your conditioned reference frames can lead you to that which Jung was pointing to.

>>21834691
Very well said.

>>21834484
Also comparing The Secret to JP just proves you have no idea what you're talking about

>>21834618
>Self improvement is good
This is literally less insightful than the secret.

Should I read 12 rules for life or is it some self help garbage? I don't know much about JBP

>>21834906
I was explaining the picture you clearly didn't understand.

>>21834462
shut up kike

>>21834973
>I was explaining the picture
No you weren't lol you were just reciting the cover insert of 12 rules because the picture is demonstrable nonsense. How the fuck does any of that relate to "Frame transformation" or "a revolutionary story"?

>>21829001
He's a gatekeeper and was installed by the left to prevent young disaffected white men from discovering and adopting true right wing positions.

He's just a libshit who has pretty decent take on communism.

>>21835396
It's quite difficult to explain but it has to do with constant reprocessing of information about the world and ourselves in order to function in it at the highest level.

Due to being vulnerable biological creatures with fragile self-esteems we possess limited information about the world and even when we do have the information we self-decept and filter it in order to maintain our self-esteem.

When our image of ourselves of the world gets shattered by an experience though it is at once both traumatic and an opportunity for growth as you recieve new information about the world that when integrated will make you stronger.

Theres more but im tired and going to bed.

>>21829001
Hes a good man, and he helps a lot of people despite what retards on 4chan say. People here get high on being the one to point out the problem with something, and its an enterally childish mindset, like a website of peter pans. He is just doing what he can for what he believes he should, and he does have a lot of good wisdom to offer. At the very least he is a great advocate for much better philosophers. He turned me on to Jung and Nietzsche, two people who completely changed my life after reading their works. Decide for yourself, and always remember that 4chan is like 80% pure retards at all times on every board

>>21830341
definitely

>>21829426
i laughed

>>21833116
Jung is an interesting one, because if you've experienced what hes talking about before you've read him, he makes perfect sense, but if you haven't he seems like complete nonsense, a retard and a hack

>>21835842
>constant reprocessing of information about the world and ourselves in order to function in it at the highest level
...so the basic brain functions of anyone not in a coma?
>an experience though it is at once both traumatic and an opportunity for growth
Is this where the dragon comes in?

>>21833612
he's a controlled opposition shill who hangs out with jews a lot

>>21834462
>Talmudic Judaism is literally an ethic supremacy cult
>Anyone who recognizes this is a bigot
Ok

>>21833612
>Attack on the person and not their ideas
Brainlet tier

>>21836279
*ethnic supremacy cult

>>21836297
His ideas are as hollow as your "argument"

>>21835396
give it up retard

>>21828678

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcWGB-RABM

>>21836432
Wash your penis, buckaroo

>>21836427
I wasn't arguing anything, I was pointing out the ad homenin attack you made because you're either intellectually or incapable

>>21828949
I love how this implies Molymeme is up with nietzsche and other great philosophers lmao. Was this meme made by Molyneux?

Everyone who uses the term "baby's first philosopher" is an insufferable cunt that it's a pain in the ass to talk to in real life. You're so desperate to sound smart it makes other cringe.

>>21828678

everyone, please buy this coin

you're going to lose so much money

it's gonna be great

fantastic

>>21836121
stop traumatizing me

>>21833677
>>21833767
>two white dudes having an argument based on the premise that the other one is not white
I'll settle it lads, you're both retarded.

>>21836135
Facts.

philosophers or thinkers wouldn't be posting or responding to any of this.

>>21829355
>single handedly killed the huge feminism wave,
Lol

>>21834462
>he knows
>he's just not a bigoted polfuck about it
lol shut the fuck up

>>21837050