/biz/ - Business & Finance

TQQQ is a lie

>>21687061
the big problem is places like china and india. liberals never seem to get that point. even if the US and EU were completely green it wouldn't matter because like 2.6 billion people are being industrial age degenerates right now with no signs of stopping any time soon. they give zero fucks. and no one is going to stop them.

You should really buy Citi stock.

First for cunny

>>21687317
>What is the Kuznets curve
Retard

>>21687317
>not knowing that American companies can sell their surplus pollution limits to other companies with a deficit pollution target

>just moved 200k into qqq
I might be too late bros

>>21687412
Trumo withdrew from the Paris Extortion Racket. There are no such things as "pollution cards" here. Keep that shit in Canada.

Uh oh bros...

>>21687346

>>21687388
Someone answer question please how to into sectors on mystocks app

>>21687458
is netflix gonna get cancel cultured now for being pedos?

>>21687477
I answered in the old bread

>>21687454
You have no real market for pollution rights?
Works great over here in the EU where you actually get a proper price mechanism to work on to indirectly make people pay for polluting, puts a market price on pollution and it does wonders for incentives for companies to invest in a reduction in pollution for a cost reduction

Will UKOUSD Brent oil prices drop? I saw that shit spike like crazy this morning

>>21687524
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. We are focusing on heavy metals and chemical dumps, not made up fairy tales designed to make money disappear up politicians assholes'. We have enough of an issue with the EPA destroying thousands of acres of land because they think they're so smart. Just look at what Barry The Messiah's EPA did to the Animas River.

Short boomers and short USD.
Long tech. Long shiny boomer rocks. Long zoomer digital rocks.

Holy shit why is AAPL going up so much AH?

jesus christ is there anything more pathetic than a stockwits penny stock gambler

>>21687584
Okay.
https://thediplomat.com/2020/07/siberia-on-fire/
You can autistically screech about /pol/ memes and American politics. I'll invest in reality.

>>21687444
>not TQQQ
put like 10K of that 200K into TQQQ for fun

>>21687662
Cite TheDailyBeast next time. At least go all the way for me.

>>21687631
because i bought it this morning.

>>21687584
>Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant
Please do tell how is Carbon dioxide not a fucking pollutant in terms of air quality for humans because that's also polluting the air
>Not wanting people and companies to pay for indirect externalities
Retarded that you don't want to solve a market externality in an efficient way but rather just look away.
The income generated from selling the carbon emission rights in a market setting can be used to lower taxes somewhere else, for example income taxes

>>21687515
Thanks hoss

>>21687631
Because I bought OTM calls

>>21687689
Here, I'll do one better. You'll really throw a /pol/ tantrum over this source.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/siberias-hot-2020-effectively-impossible-without-global-warming/

>>21687720
Corporations do not pay taxes. Their consumers do when they buy those products marked up to pay that tax. Not sure why mainline voters fail to understand this decade after decade.

Rate my 2nd portfolio

>>21687740
What strike?

>>21687771
ding ding ding. any tax the evil corp or rich scheme just hurts the consumer.

>>21687734
based and mariner valley pilled

Reposting

Fuck bros my new work hours are during market hours. Probably a good thing. Ill just buy etfs and hold. How does FNGU NAIL TQQQ sound?

>>21687752
Are they back to Global Warming? I can't keep up. Last winter it was still Climate Change. I'll have to check again at Christmas.

>>21687771
And should people not be held responsible for their actions by buying a product they know pollutes by compensating for a negative externality created by a polluting industry?
Because this is a very efficient way of making people pay for polluting and allowing the market to price the right to pollute to put a proper price in pollution.
Great incentive to become less polluting as a company if it were to allow you to attract new potential customers who care about that and offer a lower price if the investment in greener capital makes you more productive to the point where the benefit of not having to pay the right to pollute or somewhat less outweigh the cost of acquiring the new greener capital
>>21687817
No one is denying that

Exciting Thursday! Usually Thursday tend to be green but we had a very unexpected green day after a sharp rug pull yesterday at around 11AM right after Apple crossed the $2 trillion evaluation!

Just woke up from my nap after market close, and about to order some Domino's to celebrate. What toppings should I get? Also, Tesla's leg up today was really a sight to behold! Personally I wrote 1DTE NVDA spreads on open as soon as I saw that NASDAQ futures recovered overnight from -0.8% to -0.2% or so. Thankfully it worked out and NVDA seems to be crabbing at $480-490 while IV gets crushed.

What are your plans for tomorrow? Any 0DTE shenanigans? How about moves for Monday? Personally, I'm not going to write Monday SPY spreads because the stimulus still hasn't passed. I feel like the market might react in a dumb way over a weekend with August ending and no stimulus bill in sight.

>Highest water level and rate of inflow in history
>Inflow plateauing, water level expected to continue to rise for another week

>145m is the flood control level, anything above that is bad
>150m and above causes cavitations to start from the massive horizontal pressure
>We are already over 165m
>170-175m is super danger zone, real possibility of dam failure
>180m is where water will just spill over the top, and dam will definitely fail if that happens just due to basic physics, it's a gravity dam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_dam

>Outflows are hampered by silt/sediment getting trapped in the spillways, look at how the red line trends down every time they open it up more
>They would need to bring it back down to 145m to even be able to de-silt, and that ain't happening anytime soon

>And the rain still comes

Homework for /smg/, if the dam does go China is of course fucked, but how fucked is the rest of the world when all those factories and other manufacturing goes bye bye overnight

>>21687631
Because I sold at 469.

>>21687878
My living standard will not lower 0.001% until India, China, and the African continent are where we already are right now. When they do that, you let me know.

>>21687896
Oops, I meant to say
>Usually Thursdays tend to be RED
instead of green.

>>21687874
All you're doing is discrediting yourself, mate. Nobody with an IQ above 80 would invest in a boomer qultist's reality denying delusions.

>>21687929
You're living standards increase as theirs does as well.
Also making sure a negative externality is dealt with is highly beneficial to you, life is not a zero sum game where their gain means our loss

>>21687949
I'm bored. Care to discuss how you just want reasonable gun reform next?

>>21687896
moving my TQQQ into QQQ for now because I fear

>>21687984
>life is not a zero sum game
It is, you're just not zooming out enough.

>>21687909
the Three Gorges Dam stuff feels like such a blue-ball situation
people have been talking about it bursting for years now, and it just doesn't happen

who here ready for the dark horse

>>21688013
>It is
>You're just not zooming out enough
Did we lose because some countries have become highly productive and efficient in producing certain goods because we lost a few jobs as a result? Or did we gain quite significantly from that because it allowed us to do what we are most efficient and productive at?
Or are you arguing for "bringing back jobs" which are a net drain on a countries wealth and income in every case.

>>21687985
We need reasonable gun reform. It should be written into Federal law that all commonly held small arms are protected under the 2nd Amendment, preempting all state AWBs. The machine gun registry should be reopened and AOW/SBR classes eliminated. This would save millions of dollars and cost no lives, because niggers don't care about gun laws anyways.

Also, global warming is real you dumb fucking cultist.

>>21688082
>dark horse
WKHS in UPS paintscheme?

>>21688082
is the dark horse a galectin-3 inhibitor drug?

Give me one reason to not liquidate my entire $34k portfolio and go all in on BABA

>>21687813
9/18 $685 C

Is suicide for cowards?

>>21688234
yes

>>21687826
you'll be good with those

>>21688234
Yes

>>21688124
I can believe that, the global warming thing, that is. Hell anymore we have just two seasons. Hot and mild winter. There is no fall or spring. No real ice or snow either. January used to be cold. Not anymore. Now you can typically walk out with a tee shirt and be ok.

>>21688213
Trump is actually gaining in the polls again and the elections haven't happened.

omg bros the glaciers are melting

wagwan

>he doesn't own AAPL

putin's gonna pump this shit up for me just you watch

>>21688234
you betcha

>>21688213
why would you go all-in on a chinese company? sell me on baba vs., oh i don't fucking know, tsla or aapl right now?

>>21688289
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/news/greenland-ice-melting-past-tipping-point-study-01597680604

>>21687392
What is kuznetsovs curve more like. Go caps

>>21688384
how do i profit from this?

>>21688384
eww an AMP link my bad
https://www.barrons.com/news/greenland-ice-melting-past-tipping-point-study-01597680604

>>21687631
Its up 3 dollars and its nearly a 500/share stock...

>>21688213
You hate gains, so you definitely wouldn't do that.

>>21688419
FSLR and CARR, I would say TSLA if TSLA wasn't so overvalued

>>21688218
Why would you acquire something with such an unrealistic strike price and a low IV on the stock

>>21687290
GLaDOS can get it fr tho

>>21688213
You should let me double my stack before you go in

>>21688383
>buying TSLA at the absolute top
Lmfao, zoomers never fail to amaze me. Yea man keep buying TSLA at $2000, I’m sure it’s the future and will be worth 10 million in a few years. Meanwhile I’ll keep investing in BABA and “losing money”

>>21688384
>Meanwhile, a recent study from Britain's University of Lincoln concluded that Greenland's ice melt alone is expected to contribute 10-12 centimetres to the world's rising sea levels by 2100.

>The UN's IPCC climate science advisory panel said in 2013 it expected sea levels to rise 60 centimetres by the end of the century.

the question is why do i give a shit about something that im probably not even gonna be alive to witness?

MONDAY ENDS YOU'RE LUCK, MUMU
ITS ALL COMING DOWN
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

>>21688384
That sucks. Guess it's time to move on and stop crying about it then.

What I don't understand about you people that obsess about this day and night and rant and rave about it is your very own hypothesis demonstrates a permanent defeat cycle.

According to your argument the Industrial Revolution with its few tens of thousands of factories with the world's 900 million population was powerful enough to disrupt the world's climate balance. So not only would we somehow need to go back to 19th century "emissions" levels, we would need to be significantly negative beyond that to do anything. How do we do that with 1000 percent more people and an incalculable higher number of factories? It is not possible beyond mass genocide of billions.

DADA earnings Monday. Buy on opening tomorrow?

Why is Citi doing this? I'm pretty stupid I feel, but I've been making good money off this lately. I've even made more money than my wage slaving.

>>21687631
It's a bubble.

>>21688523
Because I absolutely expect to be alive by 2080 if I don't get hit by a bus or whatever. If you're 60 or something then yeah you'll probably be dead before Africans are knocking down the gates of Europe fleeing a growing Sahara but I'll be stuck with it. Late millenials and zoomers are absolutely fucked.

>>21688536
>How do we do that with 1000 percent more people and an incalculable higher number of factories? It is not possible beyond mass genocide of billions.

we just need the Chinese to release a new virus every year to keep the population low and keep the global economy hobbled by shutdowns

>>21688522
I have all 3 in FNGU, faggot

>>21688522
>at the absolute top

yeah, i mean that's sorta what happens when a company keeps making new ATH's you fucking retard. 100 was the "absolute top" at one point. if aapl never split it would be worth over 25k per share.

but yeah invest in china good fucking idea retard. im sure their business is very legit and not prone to wild swings due to geopolitics at all. put all your money in china they're very trustworthy.

>>21688536
That's why we're trying to do two things
1. Prevent it from getting worse than it already is. We're already locked in at levels of warming where millions of people will die and wars will be fought.
2. Get to a level of technology with renewables and batteries that we can sustain modern life without becoming preindustrial peasants fighting over water and scraps.
3. Failing the above, evacuate rich and talented people to Mars, in the hopes of creating a Foundation.

>>21688607
Sahara has been on a green sahara/desert sahara cycle roughly every 20,000 years going back on a geologic timescale. Why don't you go learn about that and do something good with your time? For crying about climate the people who crop up never seem to know much about what they're talking about.

This could keep going but it's tiresome waiting for this bubble to pop.

What if he turns out to be right, about everything

>>21688706
You would gain more friends if you didn't constantly scream "it's already too late" but demand my money to fix it anyway.

>>21687225
Do I follow the magic formula? Have you followed the magic formula?

>>21688794
Because the alternative scenario, do nothing, is that one you mentioned earlier with the genocide of billions.

>>21688788
Mug him for his boomer rocks. Then buy arable land with water access as far from civilization as possible to stock with rice, beans, and ammo

When are the apple and tesla split dates?

>bet against America
>lose every time

What did stocks mean by this?

>>21688684
>company goes 5x in a couple months for literally no reason other than zoomer hype
>”g-guys it’s totally not in a bubble, also c-China bad”

>>21688268
>>21688275
>>21688320
no matter what?
Was Hitler a coward?

based on an average annualized return of 51.48% over the past 10 years, if I put 30k into TQQQ I will be a millionaire in 10 more years. it seems like a no brainer but also too good to be true

>>21688801
Buy coke and cut it with baking soda to mame crack

>>21688095
Anon thinks this is the 1600s and we're still doing mercantilism

>>21688268
>>21688275
>>21688275
Were samurai cowards? Or captains who went down with the ship?

Holy shit! That narc reporter was right!!!

>>21689002
It requires that we have another bullrun that matches the last 10 years. Certainly possible but not guaranteed

>>21689002
it works as long as no one else does it
if everyone does it, it won't work at all

>>21689024
I wish it was the 1600s and we were still doing mercantilism...

>>21688976
Germany might have won the war if he delegated production to Speer and von Braun, managment of the army to the OBK, and just gave speeches and chilled. Hitler overextended Germany, mismanaged the Panzerwaffe, and generally made things worse.

Also, he got to be the guy who killed Hitler.

>>21688976
>>21689026
Hitler went to argentina
Samurai yes, captains who could have survived otherwise, yes

>>21688234
>overcoming the most intrinsic bioligical fear through shear force of will to die
no

>>21688522
Short it then pussy. Since your sooooo sure.

>>21689217
I’m not going anywhere near that bubble anymore. I’m glad that I got in at $300 and out at $1550

>>21688522
show puts

>>21689217
Calling a bubble is easy. Calling the top is hard.

Pro tip for the newbs: if you want to know where the market thinks a stock's price is likely to be in the future, pull up the options chain and look for the expiration date you want to see the expected price for. Find the at the money call then double the premium you see there. Add that number to the current price and that is where the market thinks your stock will be at that time if the market goes up. Do the same but substitute the put ATM for where the market thinks there's a 50% chance the price will be should it go down.
Example: TQQQ currently trades at $139.35. The ATM call premium for Oct 16th is $16. Double that for $32. This is the arithmetic for using volatility to deduce the market thinks TQQQ has a 50% chance of reaching $139.35 + $32 or $171.35 on Oct. 16th.
If you pull up Tradingview and look at where the trajectory of the price is you'll see that $171.35 makes a lot of sense for that date. Of course a strongly trending security like TQQQ is not that hard to eyeball. Fortunately the trick also works well for stuff like, oh I don't know, GSX. Test it and see.
So, what is this good for? One thing is when you are opening bull call spreads, make sure the strike price of the short leg isn't higher than where the market realistically expects the price to go. That way you don't give away profit or short yourself on premium.

>>21687458
It's still gonna be on there though right? Asking for a friend h-haha

>>21689321
Thanks, but I'll stick to weeklies. The market in a broader term is too volatile in the current state of things for me to comfortably write a spread for something like October 16. Being able to quickly enter and exit spreads is part of being successful in this environment.

>>21688902
American capital markets are the best so far. It’s the only thing keeping capital from fleeing to china. Once capital exits the usd, it’s over for USA. That’s the point of no return.

>>21688976
>imblying our and savior hero is dead
>imblying he won't come back when we need him the most
>not knowing where all the Nazi scientists really ended up with operation paperclip after WWII

He merely did a strategic retreat. Thats why a body was never found.

He will come back from his antarctica nazi base or from the Die Glocke time machine riding on a glorious Lockheed/skunkworks UFO.

This is why you should long Lockheed Martin stock.

so uhh... lads? i'm new to this whole "investing" thing... when exactly do i take profits? or do i just wait until my TSLA shares drop 25% then sell?

>>21689321
Thanks, options bro! Got any more tips?

>>21689298
sure you did.

>>21689321
this sounds smart which means its not for me

>>21687225
my apple 475 call is looking good. do you guys think I should just sell it at the opening jump tomorrow or wait it out and hope it goes up another percent or so?

>>21689519
If you think it's a bubble and it's going to dump and never recover look this up
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stop-lossorder.asp

>>21689519
you can do anything you want, that's part of the fun of investing !!

>>21687225
I've decided 10% of all my gains will go towards anime lewd commissions

its like tithing but I'm not religious

>>21689637
Rather this:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp

Yeah I’m thinking I fucked up

>>21689705
same shit
problem with trailing stop is your broker probably won't allow you to set it too low. With the current volality, a trailing stop 5%-10% behind may as well be a market sell order that kicks you out prematurely from potentially more gains..
Better to adjust a stop loss manually according to your targets and what the resistance/support levels are predicted to be

>>21689546
Faggot nigger

what do yall think is gonna happen to aapl tomorrow? fall or go up?

>>21689873
If you have money that fell on your lap for no reason, do you leave it on your lap waiting for more to fall or run away with it?

we are within spitting distance of the SPX 3400 party in futures
I hope that everyone has their party hats ready tonight, just in case

>>21689956
ill run away with my 20 dollar gains ty :(

This is retarded.

did webull just give me free complimentary lvl 2 market data because they noticed im down 2.4k

>>21690054
The market finally stopped being tied to the truly toxic underlying that has been keeping it down for more than a century: the actual economy.

If you could travel back to Jan.1.2020 what investment strategy would you tell yourself?

So my gf read my texts and saw that I said in a group text that she has a tight cunny, now she's all mad, should I sell all my shares of APPL and buy her a gift?(bought in at $401)

>>21687490
Pedophilia is encouraged by the left, not condemned.

>>21690122
maybe just apologize and stop divulging personal information to others like a degenerate

>>21688859
August 31st for both

>>21689698
Please don't, anime is already one of the most degenerate hobbies to begin with. Don't make it worse.

>>21690122
Buying your way out of conflict never ever ever works out. In the short term maybe, but long term you will fuck yourself over.

Talk to her. Explain to her that you're sorry, you didn't mean to disrespect her, and that you really do appreciate how tight her cunny is. Tell her you fucked up and will try your best to improve as a person. Tell her that you're still growing and want to continue growing along side her. Then shove your cock in her mouth.

>>21689623
anybody?

>>21689698
hello, is this the based department?

>>21690054
take some of profits and put it into TSM instead if you're worried.
TSM dipped today because of fears of decreasing demand when in reality whatever orders TSM lost would be filled up instantly by any of the other big techs fighting for their limited capacity.

Hurts to see it dip though, i averaged too soon. I know it's going to worth at least $150 when Samsung inevitably fucks up within 2-3 years, but it still hurts. At least I'm also holding QQQ to offset the pain.

>>21690120
>sell everything except Apple
>use the ~$15k cash that I would have to buy TQQQ AAPL AMZN and TSLA

>>21690114
Price/Earnings and Price/Sales are ludicrous.

nani

>>21690226
too late
>>21690256
thanks anon

>>21689983
Despite what faggits in here say, stocks go in waves not a straight line up.

Cash out the gains, then get back in at a lower price to further your gains. Thats what's called a round trip.

Worst case scenario you leverage loses if you do decide to hold at the end a few times into it.

OHHHHHHH

FUCKFUCKFUCK I SOLD TOOOOO MUCH TODAY!!!

MY UVXY IS GOING TO ZERO!!!

>>21689698
Good taste in black anime girls.
But maybe that money could be used to buy and hold stocks and rocks? Or be put towards getting your rocks off with cosplay sluts desperate to please you?

>>21690349
meant more this weeks gains than a full year of gains

>>21690294
Fucking hell, you actually have to type out your fan fiction in deep detail to these people too.

>>21690396
you have to make it sufficiently detailed so the artist gets it right

>>21687225
What do I do now that Tesla announced a share split and I only have a fractional share?

>>21688976
Hitler didn’t kill himself you nigger brain

Portfolio has taken a beating this past month. Fuck

>>21690349
VACCINE TALKS GOING WELL

>>21690453
Imagine being this brainwashed

>>21690435
Can you imagine the soulless life of a man that draws anime smut requests for a living for a bunch of NEET? They must contemplate suicide in a daily basis.

>>21690349
>black anime girls

She's Polynesian tanned, not a nigger. She doesn't have an afro or mustache lmao

Any one of you fags use Webull?

Is it Go0d?

Deadass tho is tesla going to moon tomorrow my nigerz?

>>21690294
didn't you request something similar the other day?
Where are you going to post your completed requests?

>>21690393
I prefer her, but the black girl is cute
irisviel is like a homunculus maid clone they created for the show because there weren't enough characters?

>>21690552
her name is literally black

>>21689522
Checked. Here's one more before I get off here.
Imagine you buy a call with 3 months to expiration but a bit after you buy it the stock starts trending lower. Eventually it gets bad enough you start to doubt whether it can recover enough to break even let alone profit. Your choices are just sell but you think the price can recover just not in time. Or you can buy another call lower however this doesn't really help the call you are currently in and another call is just another trade.
Here's a third option that lowers your break even significantly and doesn't cost you any more money. Turn the call you originally bought into a bull call spread. Sell two calls at the strike price you originally bought the one at. Take the proceeds from the sell of those and open a long call lower down that has the same premium as the two you sold. Your former call is now a spread with a much lower break even and you didn't have to spend a dime extra.
This is a good strategy when a trade goes against you but you still have hope yet are realistic that it probably isn't going to make it to your strike in time. You don't have to bother with rolling out to a later expiration either. And the last upshot is you are now likely to make profit

>>21690469
first thing i saw was AAL and im just laughing
it's been months since the big dip and you still can't recognize what the winners are
what's the point of holding "value picks" that will just crab endlessly for a year or so while shit that has good fundamentals through corona will grow massively

stop trying to value pick

>>21690601
>chinkshit

Pass

>>21690120
Sell at the end of February. Go all in on NVAX and OSTK on March 23rd.

Should I drink tonight and make my stock decisions at market open while drunk? I feel like I won’t pussyfoot around as much if I’m black out drunk while buying stocks

>>21690521
Imagine tonguing my anus

>>21687490
They're still showing the movie. Only changed the poster and description for it.

So what's the plays tomorrow. Anyone have any hot leads I can research?

>>21690625
yeah I probably posted it in one of the fgo threads. its the kuro succ one and then theres one with sella. I'm posting them as soon as their done but the ETA is fairy a mystery with skeb besides the given time frame of a month or so they get.

>>21688289
don't care

>>21690646
Image Hilter sobbing before he pulled the trigger kek what little bitch

what should i buy for dividends
exxon seems like goood deal right now

>>21690450
You lose it. Poof. No such thing as a fraction of a fraction. Don’t you know math?

>>21688033
I mean it will happen eventually. We'll see it in our lifetime for sure it's just a matter of when not if

>>21690601
I do
It's fine for me, I prefer it over RH

>>21690625
Black doesn't mean nigger in anime though.

If someone is legitimately black its always emphasized they're from America.

Kuro just means not alabaster white lmao

>>21690601
it's alright. their notification is annoying because they're trying to get you to advertise to your friends. there is no forum like you see in their mobile app on the desktop program. the screener could use more work. I think it's still better than RH.

>>21688384
that's my favorite album. based prog poster.

>Down at the edge, close by a river
>Close to the edge, round by the corner
>Close to the end, down by the corner
>Down at the edge, round by the river

>>21690771
>Kuro just means not alabaster white lmao
yep. animu brown usually means the character is supposed to be from Okinawa.

How fucked am I?

>he doesn’t have at least 15% of his portfolio in BABA

lmao

>>21690670
Buy every dip.

>the more KODK and GNUS sink the more it just becomes /pol/ from "bulls" with MAGA memes and anger about "nasty shorts"
Stocktwits is literally for divorced dads to lose money on penny stocks and tweet to each other about it

>>21690735
SDYL or something similar

>>21690886
you can still turn it around. i can give you some knee pads on margin for a reasonable rate.

>>21690964
buy HUYA if you like chink shit anon

I dont respect women.

>>21691046
??

>>21691026
Complaining about manipulation and short sellers is the eternal cry of the bagholding goof who fomoed in to a PnD, or an ever so virtuous long who bought in to garbage small cap running on hopes and dreams thinking they were being smarty pants junior buffetts. Buffett strat on shitty small caps with coin flip shot of success based on some medication getting approved or being bought out or their product becoming mainstream is very dangerous. Keep dumping money in to a sinking ship.

>>21688487
Bullish on the stock split hype desu

Why didn't I go all in on leveraged stocks at the beginning of April when I was picking stocks instead. I could have made 2x to 3x the money.

>>21691042
Is the dog retarded or something

>>21691223
Yeah probably. Im about 4x from then

>>21691223
>leveraged stocks
*ETFs or ETNs

>>21691223
Because you were afraid the market was going to enter a long term depression. Buying after violent drops like that is not easy.

>>21691101
tencent took control in april if that helps

I feel like Ive become the guy from american psycho when a bitch says she loves baking and then answers she makes sugar cookies. Cant help but think what an underdeveloped pleb she is

>>21691042
That dog has dogtism

>>21691263
People here were still shilling SQQQ, TVIX and SPY puts while I was saying we've hit the bottom. I should have believed in my thesis and bet more.

>>21691293
I think I bought SQQQ at like $19? fuck me..

why is the ASX so fucked, literally everything I touch crashes

Imagine being fucking poor!

WAGE SLAVE FOR 50 YEARS BRO, COVID MEANS ITS 55 NOW HAHA.

>>21691223
hindsight 20/20, back in April, it looked like a deadcat bounce. The dip only removed a year of gains

>>21691235
It's blind.

>>21691042
Anything is better than nothing at this point

What’s your age and net worth anons? Not data mining just want to compare myself to my competition

>>21690122
dont apologize. Just shrug it off and keep using her tight cunny

>>21691328
>What? No of course I don't invest in the Stock Market, that's shit is only for the mega wealthy bro! Plus, you know they rig it right?
>What?? You just buy shares of Apple and Tesla and hold on to them? HEY GUYS, ANON GAMBLES IN THE STOCK MARKET LMAO
>Let us know when you're rich haha
>Anyways, it's time for me to spend $25 on my lunch like I do every day
>You're so funny anon

>>21691397
210k usd 22

>>21690642
Set a limit

>>21687458
Sold my put credit spread at open when I saw they were advertising that yesterday whwn saw 4channer posted the poster after market close. Damn stock went up like 10 bucks....I closed it at a loss of about $40. Not touching them at this point, kicked them off my watchlist dgaf if they're considered a "high quality stock". They likely only apologized because people didn't like it. They were likely hoping they'd get applause and told they are "progressive".

>>21691419
This except Tesla

>>21687788
How do i get a graph like this?

>>21690237
Premium advice. Shoulda charged for this

Tesla

>>21691503

Tesla

>>21688312
>he doesn’t already own Yandex
Ngmi

>>21691397
33 350k me
32 400k wife

>>21691419
you're mistaken, buying stocks is becoming mainstream. even some hot chick at work i know is bagholding ethereum for some reason.

everyone looks at the past chart and gets hurt for missing out on the march dip and now everyone is ready to buy every single dip. I know another coworker who just opened up an account last week and is just waiting for his funds to come into his account to buy stocks.

>>21687896
Lol i have the same spy call credit spread. What's your avg price?

>>21691533
Whatta hell is yandex?

It sounds like yandere so I'll buy it but shill me first please

>>21687225
Just be careful you know there's going to be a massive rotation out of tech once there's a vaccine in the next 6 to 12 months No idea if it'll crash or just correct like 20%

>>21691397
Nearly 26, and about $950

>>21691552
This is how we save capitalism

Get everyone into stocks and then inflate the dollar 5% a year

>>21691556
Average is $0.069, wrote most of them before the 2PM leg down yesterday. :( I wanted to write more earlier today but used my capital on NVDA first.

>>21691552
Etherium isn't a stock....

>>21691594
Why would we inflate the dollar 5% a year?

>>21691425
Bullshit
>>21691534
>his wife makes more than him

>>21691582
why

>>21691419
Do normies REALLY think like this? are people this financially retarded?

>>21691552
This is a sign to exit the market.

>>21691625
So the stocks go up and everyone wins duh

>>21691425
>>21691534

>>21689321
Got a bit confused. Can you make it more brainlet tier? How good of a premium do you get for say a full 2 months out on a call or put credit spread? 15% of your collateral for a strike at least $20 higher than current price? Otherwise I'll stick to weeklies some of these hundred dollar stocks are swining 10s of dollars that it seems more like manipulation by market makers than actual nornal price movement.

>>21691626
I'm finishing training.
Trying to negotiate salary and sign on bonus with employer. Pic related their shit offer

>>21691534
>wife is worth more than husband

Ngmi

>>21691652
Yes

>>21691659
seethe harder bobo

>>21691652
Some people just have different priorities. I love eating out, but it's a luxury, not something I do to survive. I meet lots of people who cannot fathom not eating at restaurants or takeaway every day of the week.

>>21691659
There is nowhere for anyone to go. Cash is trash, shiny metals are a meme, and bonds pay barely anything. Selling without confirmation that a crash is going to immediately happen just shoots yourself in the foot, look at what happened to all the Bobos since March, they wish they bought in.

>>21690642
I like your style

>>21691708
What job?

What happens if I close a position in forex while having a positive equity but a negative free margin?

lads if tomorrow is another green day for tech stocks im so much more closer to retiring forever

>>21691708
what the fuck 6 weeks of PTO???

>>21690264

you're the TSM bro from yesterday night. I'm also deep in TSM. Bought in at 66 and have been accumulating the dips since the run up into the 80's. Will dump almost all my cash reserves into TSM if there is a larger dip; it is far and away my most bullish position.

What are your thoughts behind the $150 SP?

>>21691552
It's true, it's the next big hype, like fortuite, even 10 year old kids are doing it on robinhood

>>21691715
Not letting your wife work while you stay home and day trade and be house bitch. NGMI

>>21691572
Basically Russian google.
You know how much Russia likes American companies so it does have a big market Russia and once USSR companies. (Probably supported by Russian gov) but know one will come and straight up say it

>>21691619
CryptoStar is though

>>21691625
so that the government can spend a ton of money and not worry about the debt
probably

>>21691708
>guaranteed ~2.5% yearly salary increase
>6 weeks pto
What the fuck m8.
I had 14 days pto, no salary increase, gamed bonuses + equities (supposed to be 10k and 0-10k with 4 fucking years vest respectively, in practice it was 0 and 0 no matter how well you performed) at m$.

>>21691734
You're the food version of a cumbrain, call it a foodbrain. I literally haven't been to a restaurant in years despite being able to afford to go. It's bad enough to pay $20 for something so temporary like a meal but then on top of it you're forced to tip assholes who make 45k a year mostly tax free just for running food back and forth.

>>21691594
Based. It serves as a de facto UBI. My spending would increase if I made tendies on YOLOs because my brain considers it fun money that I didn't really do anything to earn anyway. This will increase the velocity of money and make JPow happy.

I always kind of wondered what if every citizen got "stock" in their name at birth and earned "dividends" by being invested in the country that they could reap as an adult. People protest capitalism because they feel they don't get any benefit when all the gains go to the top. If every "citizen" were a "shareholder" then they would feel invested in the outcome of their society. It's like profit sharing on a national scale.

>>21691397
Why do you feel the need to compete? We're all frens til the end.

29, 580-600k

>>21691918
Debt, and can hide it from consumers to fuck up social security slightly

>>21691918
Make cash holders poor, (95%) of all Americans

>>21691934
Yeah but dumb people are bad at capitalism. We need steroid like drug for neurons first before more gibs and inclusion

>>21691419
>HEY GUYS, ANON GAMBLES
Girl said something similar to me
"So you like to gamble?"

>>21691931
So glad I live in a country that doesn't tip.
I try to spend $55 a week. My housemate spends up to $150 I reckon. Unbelievable.

>>21691734
If their priority is eating out they're just retarded and don't know how to cook.

may i have just a crumb of red

>>21691951
Most people here aren't your frens, fren. There are people here that would murder you for just a fraction of that amount.

TSLA $80 by EOY

>>21692024
You forgot to add a zero to that number m8

>>21691951
>>21692010
I would kill him and his family for $65k of that so I can have an even $100k

>>21692024
Yeah after about 2 more splits.

>>21691931
Imagine being this boring of a human

>>21691614
Ohh I see got some for an avg of like 0.0816 or something. Nice on nvidia. Which i remember about the iv spike, wouldve gone for safe spreads on them

>>21691850
i repeat the same shills points before but it's all based on Samsung fucking up.
First, their yields are shit which is why they fucked up the Qualcomm order.
Second, their transistor density is lower than TSM's, i.e. samsung's 8 nm's is comparable to TSM's 10 nm and so on. From what I remember, NVDA is using samsung chips for their lower end shit, and the only reason they got them in the first place is because TSM's capacity is limited and Samsung undercutted TSM a lot just to stay relevant with NVDA.
Third, they're basically skipping a node size to 3 nm when they're still having a lot of issues with yields on bigger nodes. Intel tried to skip a node size too and look how that turned out, just carried over existing issues they're still trying to fix.

Meanwhile TSM is flexing on the rest of the world with the news a couple days ago.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/313940-cerebras-wafer-packs-2-6-trillion-transistor-cpu-with-850000-cores
Something like that is only possible with a very very high yield. KInda funny considering AMD rose to prosperity because they were doing a chiplet design that goes around shitty yields (so even if you have imperfections in a wafer, you can just combine chiplets together) but looking at these news, I wonder if they really need to do that when TSM is capable of turning the entire wafer into a single functional chip.

i wish I could just stop myself from looking at how much TSM fluctuates day-to-day because I'm not gonna do anything anyways until a couple years later.

>>21691708
What job?!?

>>21688234
No.

>>21691708
>>21691834
>>21691929
It's gotta be some kind of meme pyramid scheme job.

>>21692010
I can see this. Although i get along with some im suspicious after enough anons shill me some random no name stock pumps 100%. Oh gee if it was so good why didnt you shill it BEFORE the pump with logical reasons to give credence, rather than "hehe line goes up jump in now!"

Anyone else speccing out Uranium plays for 2021?

This one was the best and gave $30k to 401k but wife's pregnant so moving closer to family. Feels bad man.
>>21691929
That sucks. Where can you even go with only 14 days?

Anyone else trading lean hog futures or just me

>>21691397
Early 20's. $30k~. Fortunately I was able to work full time whilst living at home for a few years before moving out.

>>21691734
I have unironically been living on onions original powder since before it became a meme associated with basedboys. I've always seen shopping, cooking, and eating as a chore, expense, and time waster. I just want to get all my vitamins and minerals as quickly as cheaply as possible and free myself of the burden. I throw it in a BlendTec Professional 800 and supplement it with unflavored whey (buy a 45-lb bag once a year and keep it in a dog food container), creatine monohydrate, and sometimes other things like kale, fish oil, zinc, and magnesium. In the morning I have black coffee with L-Theanine. I have never eaten lunch at work, even when I did manual labor jobs; just chew gum and drink water. Coworkers think its strange but get used to it. Yes I am extremely autistic.

We are in between delusion and new paradigm

>>21692163
They say fair value on it is like $51, it's at 77

>>21689310
>Hard
It's impossible without insider information.

Going bullish with more OTM calls for TSLA at market close tomorrow. I expect TSLA is going to boom right after the split when all the people see at as more "affordable". I don't think this mania will stop until the 2nd dip of the depression.

>>21692000
Yeah, I would actually go out to eat occasionally if I didn't have to tip. Still though even $55 a week quickly adds up. If you invested that instead at 8% annual return for 20 years it would be worth 155k. I just don't enjoy food enough to justify the expense when if I delay my gratification I'll much more money.
>>21692081
Right, you're so much more interesting than me because you go to a restaurant and eat overpriced food. You should put that on a resume or your tinder profile, "likes to eat at restaurants", I'm sure everyone will be so impressed.

>>21692289
Dammit I tried to replace the o with a 0 and the wordfilter still got me.

s o y l e n t

>>21691397
>29
>60K

I had $0 at 25 so I'm pretty happy with it

>>21691223
Me too. Had i fully understood soxl at the time id have gone in hard. Would likely be set for life if the market stays this way

It doesnt feel good at all

The ultimate goal is to not have to wage anymore. If you have a high paying job, that just means you accumulate capital faster to reach the goal of not waging anymore. But even if you're making minimum wage, if you're smart about your savings - you too, can build capital. I saved up my first 5k while working at an Amazon warehouse to pay for everything while in college. That 5k is the bedrock which set the foundation for my current portfolio.

Large or small portfolio, dream big always.

>>21692289
Does it at least taste alright? Cooking gives me something to do during lockdown. I've been getting into offal and offcuts. Much cheaper than the choice cuts of meat.

>>21692245
>Where can you even go with only 14 days?
Fucking nowhere that's where. There was also an unofficial policy where you had to take at least 7 days in one contiguous block, so you can't even use your vacations how you like. In practice it means many people just forego the vacation time entirely (it's "reimbursed" at end of year or can be partially moved forward).

>>21692295
This. I can’t wait for these Tesla zoomers who bought in at $1900 to get absolutely burned and fucking kill themselves

>>21692289
Do you not eat any solid food? How long have you been living like this without adverse side effects?

>>21691397
24
40k RH
3K TDA
17K Roth 401k
several grand in cash and assets

I'm not gonna make it

>>21691397
19
10k

>>21692331
I meant $55 a week for food gross total. Not purely for eating out. I could definitely get that number down but I try to eat fresh fruit most days.

>>21691397
32 and half a million probably. It’s hard to know for sure

>>21691886
I use it occasionally. It has a functioning reverse image search, almost as good as google's was before google intentionally broke theirs.

>>21692408
not just for tesla but the entire market. think about it. the first sell off is the COVID crash. this is for the institutional investors. then because everyone is stuck inside needing money they pump a shit ton into the market entering the public phase we have had consistent green for days making people greedy and delusional and today we reached a new ATH on the nasdaq composite. the buffet indicator is literally at 1.7. everything isi pointing to a burst

I like New Highs and I can not lie
you other brothers cant deny

>>21692280
I have never traded the hoggies.

>>21691850
>>21692163
just to add to that, if Samsung fucks up, TSM has no competitors. A $150 price target is very fair and probably an underestimation if TSM really ends up becoming the sole supplier of cutting edge semiconductors.

Some people are concerned about China catching up to the race with their resources, but I'm only slightly worried because they're barred from obtaining western semiconductor equipment (ASML being the huge one, no one else makes EUVL equipment). Mainland chinese semiconductors are restricted to immersion lithography as a result, and so the best they can achieve will comparable to Intel's efforts. By the time they get 7 nm up (assuming they can even reach decent yields), TSM will already be at 3 nm. Keep in mind that TSM is already at volume production with 5 nm, and they'll expand capacity significantly with 5 nm with the US plant finishing in 2023.

also knowing mainland china, they'll probably cut corners and fuck up somewhere. This is the same country that will build fire doors that lead to a fatal drop, or skyscrapers built with concrete from sea sand (ticking time bomb). Never mind all the other shit.

taiwan is also now so vital to the rest of the world that it's practically impossible for china to try and invade/assimilate them now. Taiwan, the country itself, is basically the semiconductor industry.

>>21687896
>0DTE
I thought robinhood didnt have 0dte options besides for people to close their options?

Also just how much are you throwing into these credit spreads!? Thats in the tens of thousands at least, probably hundreds of thousands! Yet here i have 5 figures and cant decide on a strategy with half my portfolio in cash

>>21692331
Sure bro. It's not about that it's about experiencing life in general. What's it all for if your not gonna see the world and try new foods and live. While you are actually able too. It's not that I don't think your not interesting Im saying I know the type. There has to be a line between being frugal and being over the top. Never going out seemmmssss a bit over the top.

>>21692280
>margin trading options on lean hog futures

>>21692562
Yep, food/travel are really the only things I splurge on. otherwise I live pretty modestly

How do I make a million dollars bros

What's gonna happen after Tesla splits?

>>21692661
It will probably shoot back up, it's more affordable for normies and zoomies, same with apple.

>>21692386
I'm neutral on the taste but some people don't like it. Some people don't like coffee or beer either. Some people hate the taste of water because there's no sugar in it. When I want to treat myself I'll add a banana or frozen fruit.

>>21692411
>Do you not eat any solid food?
Sometimes on social occasions. I don't refuse it. Most of the time it's my mom dropping off food when she visits because she thinks I need to eat "real food".
>How long have you been living like this without adverse side effects?
Approximately 5 years. It has varied from 50% to 90% of my diet. I have added kale, spinach, and psyllium husk for more fiber before. I drink gallons of water a day plus coffee so constipation has never been an issue.

>>21692661
moon mission back to the pre-split price

>>21692688
So should I buy some now or wait till it splits?

>>21692297
>They
don't listen to financial idiots who don't know how semiconductors work. I'm assuming you're pretty young and you have no excuse not to be more tech literate to verify your own DD on tech shit. This is the kind of time where lurking /g/ will actually give you an advantage in making stock picks, as they have when AMD and Nvidia made a lot of people rich. Never mind that /biz/ was made in the first place to get rid of cryptocurrency bullshit from /g/ in the first place, though that was more luck rather than actual fundamentals.

The general market don't understand what semiconductors, and TSM was moving with financial news that don't really affect its fundamentals. Maybe TSM dips down under $70 in the end, but if Samsung continues to fall behind, the rest of the market won't be able to keep ignoring it when TSM keeps pumping out impressive growths for a manufacturer.

just don't go all in into TSM, it's just another solid bluechip to put some money in. I hold a lot of TSM but I have my exposure on the rest of tech shit through QQQ. If I wasn't a pussy, I'd be holding AMD and NVDA too but their volatility scares me. Their PE ratios don't matter in this market, especially with the speed of their growth.

>>21692555
Robinhood does indeed prevent you from making 0DTE buys. And they also force you to close your position if it's too close to the risk of being assigned, 1 hour before expiration. For prolific options users, I would not recommend Robinhood - but I use it anyways because the UI is simple and I can use it at work with no troubles. I was asking if others do 0DTE though.

And yeah, I play with 10-20% of my portfolio on spreads. It's a hefty chunk but as you can see most of them are pretty conservative strikes.

>>21691552
stocks will become as volatile as cryptos

>>21692504
What's the play then? Please explain to a brainlet like me

>>21692696

Shouodve bought a year ago a month ago a week ago a day ago. But yeah tomorrow is the next best time. This is once-twice-thrice in a lifetime shit (If you’re lucky). I’m not saying there’s no risk there’s always risk but the hype train isn’t stopping anyone soon.

>>21692817
honesty ride the wave be very carefully. i might exit all positions for a bit but i dunno. i would say set up trailing stop losses

>>21692817

Don’t listen to night time bear fags. They hide and bite their tongues all day long and come out of the wood work at night. They’re shady vile vulgar hateful and can’t be trusted. There’s something inherently wrong with people who enjoy being pessimistic.

>>21692817
Set wide stop losses. There will probably be a couple fakeouts and a bubble can last for years. However just sitting in cash is a wasted opportunity

>>21691534
>32 year old wife

>>21692245
Are you really not going to tell us what the job is?

>>21691834
I'd take half the salary and no benefits for half the work hours. Sadly not many "professional" jobs hire for 20 hours a week.

I am happier and it gives me time for hobbies like investing, reading, and lifting. It's hard to explain to people that leisure time pays dividends. If you waste your whole life at work trying to look busy then you have no time or energy to invest in yourself.

It always drove me mad when I was stuck at work running out the clock to fulfill some arbitrary hours requirement on a timesheet when I could be at home learning a new skill or doing something useful. It feels like wasting your life and your youth. Those are hours you won't get back. I value my time *immensely* more than my wage. Any job that offers a vacation buy I take the max and wish I could buy more.

>>21691534
>29
corona pushed me to a milly and this is bullshit because what are the chances i randomly know 2 other people in the same situation.

>>21691701
What I was getting at in the post was a quick way to see what the market thinks is a realistic price for your stock at any given time by looking at the ATM option premium for the time frame in question. So if you wanted to see what the market thinks is the likely price of TQQQ in a week you look at the weekly option that expires on the day in question and double the ATM premium then add that to the current price of TQQQ. This gives you the market's projected price.
ATM premium is the purest proxy for the markets expected volatility for a given point in time. Since there is a 50% chance of the price going up or down, you have to double the premium to get the 50% chance of any particular direction.
The way you use this information in your bull call spreads is simply make sure when you open your spread, the strike price for the leg you sell isn't higher than what the market thinks the price is likely to be on the date of expiration which you can easily check by doing the calculation above.
This is helpful as it keeps you from choosing a strike that is unrealistically high thus fucking yourself out of premium you could have sold for or setting the strike too low and fucking yourself out of gains you would have ended up with at expiration.
Note the choice of October as my example earlier was arbitrary. The trick works for any expiration date even for years in the futures. Like right now the Jan 21, 2022 ATM call premium for SOXL is $86.55 and SOXL today closed at $240.87
With these two facts we know the market thinks there is a 50% chance of SOXL closing at the price of 40.87 + (86.55 * 2) or $413.97 on January 21, 2022.

>>21692998
Medical most likely, maybe an ER surgeon. You don't make that kind of hourly pay anywhere else

BAKING

>>21693060
>Sadly not many "professional" jobs hire for 20 hours a week.
That's the truth and it drives me nuts. I would like to work between 20 and 30 hours a week. Current job allows that but they also screw me sometimes but only scheduling me for a single day or two days some weeks. It's a tricky balance to work but work less than the proscribed 40.

>>21693157
Thanks I was just about to if nobody else did.

>>21692998
I'm guessing senior software engineer at FAGTMANN.

>>21691534
This list is just americans, right? Considering it's "net worth" which means the debt that a majority has will bring everything down. As a european I'm easily in the 90% bracket in the 25-29 age group, but that's probably the ~75% bracket in europe

NEW

>>21693333
>>21693333
>>21693333
>>21693333

>>21692526

thanks for the response bro. Do you think it's sensible for half of my portfolio to be TSM?

>>21688522
Tesla will be over 10k in 2 to 3 months so of course I'm buying shares now for 2k. Waiting for my next paycheck end of the month so I can put all of it in tesla before the split. It's literally free money.

>>21693482
verify the DD yourself and figure out what level you'd really be comfortable with. I definitely have half my portfolio in TSM right now but I got in early and I don't mind if it dips below $70 short-term.
I hesitate to recommend to anyone having more than 25% of your portfolio in a single pick unless you're confident yourself.