/biz/ - Business & Finance

Why did you have to summon the Blockeks to this thread you know there discord bot will be spinning into life and they will be along shortly to begin shitposting again

See:

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>copy/paste rap battle spam

>>21619035
Why not fuck off and just accumulate? We will pump it when we are ready in Sept-Oct

>>21619126
They actually have that? That’s fucking cringe as shit, developers and team must be insecure as fuck

>>21619131
Want more Stakemarines, a good community who get in early can make everything better.

Look at Link - getting Biz onboard early not only made everyone much money but helped the project.

>>21619126
>4chan discord bot
Cringe, wtf is wrong with these faggots.

i hate the redditor faggots i want them all dead starting with yankeeruin and his dog that he lets fuck his gf

>>21619035
>more volume
pic related... 12 trades since the 16th? wew.

>doesn't rely on wrapped assets
in that big thread earlier wasn't there a video of trading WETH for XSN? Last i checked WETH was a wrapped asset.

>>21619651
i agree anon, can't wait for em all to get purged from this board for good

>>21619703
Eth doesn't comply with it's own standards so you can't trade it as a token.......

the ability to trade wrapped assets, as well as non-wrapped assets.

Helps the transition from what I hope is a short term trend - wrapped assets have inherent trust problems.

>>21619250
You missing dank memes and fun times then. Also crypto communities and support are built around fudding and trolling here, everyone knows that

I think most people have given up on becoming rich on this (if you bought after the pump). It's going to take a few years before it'll get a lot of volume, if any, and by that time the bear market will be back. There was a thread yesterday and the anons in it agreed $5 was the local top for 2021, being optimistic. Could easy make the same money from just buying btc every month and waiting for it to moon.

If you got your 10MN already, then fair enough. But those of us with 5 or less aren't gonna make it any time soon. And people are getting closer and close to being priced out of 10 masternodes.

>>21619923
Lol no. Volume should sky rocket with raiden, that's this year FYI.

fuck u raiden fag kill urself and cut your own head off

>>21619943
No it won't lmao.

>>21619958
Cope harder blockcuck.
>>21619975
Cope faggot. You had 6+ months to buy cheap.

>>21619923
I'm gonna wait till end of the month. If the price still crabbing then i'm out

>>21619990
Who even says cope on /biz/? Stop being retarded my dude.

Post more of your epic may mays

>>21620037
>Who says cope on /biz/
You needs to go back

>>21620043
Grant fuck off and go fuck your cat. Actually, go learn how to photoshop so you can create some decent memes

>>21620083
Cope and seethe harder tranny.

>>21620096

>>21620108
>Posting xsn memes in an xsn thread while fudding xsn
KYS

>>21620120
How am I fudding? The whale king yesterday agreed with the price. Is $5 not good enough for you? I suspect it's also whale king who made this thread, the grammar is the same.

I'm speaking for other anons who are investing in this, now, thinking they'll get rich. It's not going to happen soon. There's other opportunities.

Now, go back to discord. You're so out of place on /biz/. It's off-putting.

This is fud

>>21619923

>>21619923

I hear the issue - in that how do you get rich if it's only a 10x?

I'd ask you to consider a few things
- in a BTC 10x, alts tend to more than 10x (as this current pump shows) - and the better alts tend to pump way more than 10x. So even if the bottom end is a 10x for stakenet, in a bull market you're looking at least at 10x10 = 100x (and likely more as it's a real product)
- As crypto grows so does the volume for exchanges. In reality no one offers anything as generous as stakenet's shared payout model, and the returns from small amounts of volume are pretty great for even 1 MN (see attachment)
- There is security in investing in a real project - in that having a more stable base for some investments really helps. Chase PnD's with a small portion of your portfolio and use some of it for stable gains. Got to manage risk, or risk going broke and never making it
- If you 10x here, you are only one 10x away from where you want to be.
- Whoever thought Link would blow the sky through - real projects sometimes just punch.
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>>21620179
>Whale king
Nigga u gay

>>21620185
The returns in that image are 20-30% too high but still decent.

>>21620184
Give it a rest Grant. Go fuck your cat.

>>21620185
Yeah we went through all this for another anon who was sad that he only could afford 1MN. And we said just reinvest. I was there. The problem comes, if, next december is the top, then the bear market ensures.... Lots of people will pull out at the top next year.

The chart needs to be updated though king. I think 3000 nodes by the start of stage 2.

>>21620280
>Grant
Wtf are you talking about blockcuck. Telling people not to invest if they can't buy 5+ nodes is fud. Stating that raiden won't bring in volume for a few years is fud. Now you had literally months to buy sub 10cents but you didn't and now you're a salty poofta.

>>21620261
Could be - it's just a guess. But if the exchange only gets 100m of volume, a single masternode making just above 100 bucks a day?

That's wagecucking done.

My downside risk here is a single masernode means you're done wagecucking?

Or that every month you can throw 3k into a moonshot for free?

Seems pretty good to me.


>>21620179
It is I - Whale King. Variable IP is a bit of a bitch.

>>21620280
I'll get an updated chart with 3k nodes made and post it when done (will have to be after i'm done Wagecucking).

>>21620315
>$5 local top for 2021 (conservative)
>do the math on volume at 100M with 3000 nodes
>do the math on block rewards with 3000 nodes and $5/xsn
>......... 1MN is 'making it' apparently.

Yeah, you could just wait it out for a few years and hope that the Dex pulls tremendous value and XSN becomes a billion dollar company. In that case we're all going to be rich. I don't see it happening any time soon though, there's better ways to make money than hodling for 5+ years. Don't fall in love with your investments.

>>21620372
$5 is nowhere near the top. That would put Stakenet at a 500 Million MC which is nothing. When you fully understand what stakenet is building (not just a DEX FYI) then you'll realise your just a fudding faggot.

https://streamable.com/kzpimj

'Once a layer 2 DEX arrives we wont need layer 1 DEX's' - Andreas Antonopoulos

>If Stakenet is legit, why is there so much FUD?

Because Stakenet is going to absorb a huge amount of the existing liquidity from current exchanges, and their marketcaps along with it.

Stakenet is going to put a lot of people out of commission and they're not happy about.

>>21620372
100M is nothing in terms of volume, consider that XSN will be the FIRST DEX to have lightning AND raiden.

>>21620372
You've also forgotten that we are in the start of the bullrun. You know how high marketcaps go in a bullrun. This isn't like 2017 where everything was vapourware, LINK is here and it solves the oracle problem meaning crypto actually has a usecase. If you still can't see it then you're genuinely retard.

>>21620372
A 10 billion MC for XSN is more than likely WITHOUT a bullrun, with a bullrun I can easily see Stakenet hitting 100 billion +, which would put xsn over $100 per coin.

Now don't forget how the DEX works you gay ass nigger. ALL THE TRADING FEES WILL BE USED TO BUY XSN (in stage 3 90% of that goes to nodes (currently it would go to dex hubs)). The other 10% of that XSN is burnt, reducing the supply and making XSN deflationary.

>>21620372
Don't think we're talking years - Raiden should be this year.

>>21619923
Personally I think $5 is as insane valuation. Maybe 2025, but not a chance in hell of going up so much in so short a time with no real progress. Gaia is 35% of the way finished, meaning they move from alpha to a closed beta with limited functionality and no features besides a btc/xsn, btc/ltc, and maybe if we're really lucky they add eth/xsn sometime around January. Looking at the road map and times they finished on time we can say with certainty in won't be January, unless it's a different January than 2021.
I will admit to holding 10 masternodes but my best estimate is assuming we bull and btc hits 30k with 70% dominance. That will put us around $1.5-$2. A very comfy return and my aave loans will be repaid and I'll even take so profit from selling block rewards. $25/day now but I'm holding until $1. Once repaid and assuming we get this golden bull run I'll be making about $75-$100/day. Not much but it's equivalent to a minimum wage job at least. It gives me something to do while waiting for chainlink steaking at least. If I end with up with $1.6k/wk I'll just quit working and be able to maintain my current lifestyle. I'm waiting for a dip to load up. Probably won't see xsn for 2k again but I think on dex release 2.5k isn't unreasonable to expect. Will try and grab another 10mn then.
Hydra is never coming because the dex is nothing according to the team, a minor pit stop along the way for what they have planned. Ambitious and smart as hell, just poor grasp on reality and how long things take to build. They even wrote about wearable tech and measuring exercise, drugs, clinical trials, surgery, etc. Exciting stuff since im a medfag but I know it's not a fast or cheap thing. There is no rugpull so it's a solid project with huge returns coming. Just a shame some clowns are shilling saying we'll get $420.69/xsn very soon and dex rewards of $9,000.01 per mn per day. Ridiculous lies even the streetshittingest pajeet doesn't believe, but they still lie and say.

>>21620497
Without a bullrun we're gonna crab at 300m cap for sure. Maybe even less.

I don't think many people on /biz/ have truly considered the ramifications on the crypto world as a whole when Stakenet delivers a Layer 2 offchain Lightning DEX WITH RAIDEN.

Not only will Stakenet solve the DEX problem, it will facilitate instant transactions of crypto and free up congestion across the board. We are going to be so fucking rich post Raiden.

>>21620514
Can you gay ass fudders go fucking back. A 500 million market cap is not insane.
>2025
Kill yourself

Progress isn't updated everyday nigger. It's done in chunks. Full public release/distro would be 100% Gaia and that's coming sooner than you think.

>Alpha to closed beta
Retard they are already in beta with a full discord release to anyone who wants to use it THIS MONTH.

>Limited functions
Nigger they have fucking autopilot features for normies already

>Eth - Jan
Once again nigger Raiden is cominig along very nicely, it will be fully integrated THIS YEAR.

I'm not even gonna read the rest of the shit you posted you homosexual nigger.

>>21620532
Lol no. XSN is easily a top 5 coin with raiden (top 20 is 2billon MC FYI)

>>21620543
This. these fudders are the gayest faggots on /biz/ lately. Just because they didn't buy sub 10cents when we told them to.

>>21620620
Can you fud some more with me pls I really want to fill my bags

>>21620639
No cunt, you have months of sub 10 cents XSN and then you had plenty of fud as we pumped, hell I even made 20+ threads my self.

>>21620372
>500M market cap is top for 2021

>numerous projects have 1B plus market cap off hype alone
>XSN releasing one of a kind tech that actually has relevant use case in crypto right now

I'm all for tempering expectations but some of you need to dream a little bigger

>>21620610
Nice try, calling an alpha test a beta release doesn't make it so. If you were the least bit active on the discord you would know. Do you even have one masternode? What makes you feel so qualified to talk about this project? You probably haven't even held it a year yet. Pathetic.
It's a solid buy and I would never fud it. I know saying it won't go to $420.69 eow sounds like fud to you but it's really not. You should try going outside into some other projects a bit. Get a feel for crypto before you run your dumbass mouth like that. Or even just outside period. You are incredibly naive and have no place investing with us big boys. Fanboying like this is just 'seethe' and 'cope' on your part. It's embarrassing to even read the shit you write.

The one thing that doesn’t get talked about much is BTC’s biggest use case by far is for trading. Right now there isn’t a single DEX that allows you to trade BTC easily, quickly and cheaply. Nearly all big dexes are ETH dexes and XSN is going to be the only DEX that makes trading BTC easy, quick, cheap and the final one - private. This I think I could make XSN DEX far bigger than any of us anticipate

>>21620514
Fair evaluation.

>Hydra is never coming because the dex is nothing according to the team
Also, kinda this. But, the screeching moonboy in this thread is triggered beyond belief and will assure you that it's coming.... Soon. But that is going to be a fun discussion to watch in the Discord next year.

>>21620753
>Calling alpha beta
Once again neck yourself tranny. This DEX has been tested for over a year now, alpha was long ago.

>If you were active on the discord
I have the DEX you sad cunt, it's very slick, has auto pilot features and is smooth as fuck.

>Do I have even 1 node
I have more than you nigger

I am qualified since I have done my own research and understand the state of the crypto landscape, it's not hard if you have some basic foresight.

>420.69 eow
No one is saying it's going to a 40 billion market cap in a week (i made a mistake earlier said 100 billion MC is 100$ but it's actually $1000)

>Us big boys
The only thing big about you is your weight

If you were capable of using even half your brain you would understand crypto a lot better.

1 Billion MC puts xsn at $10. 1 billion is nothing for a project like xsn.

Being the FRIST LIGHTNING RAIDEN DEX IS FUCKING HUGE

If you can't understand such a simple thing then why are the fuck are you in crypto?

>>21620800
Checked. Thank you, someone who isn't complete retard or a gay ass fudder.

>>21620821
>Hydra is never coming because the dex is nothing according to the team
Source or fuck off retard. No one is buying your fud.

>>21620800
This is the big picture

>>21620891
Do you not know how to read people? Sorry, clearly you don't Grant. You're just screeching, paying no attention to what's going on around you. How long has your first masternode been up and running? If it's more than a year, then you should know what's coming. The other anon actually put it quite beautifully.

And you should have asked for source from the anon I quoted, not me. Just, etiquette you know.

>>21620868
Whoa now, that's a lot of hostility, repressed memories, and projection there. It's not my fault you thought chopping your dicklet off was a good idea. There is no way you have more than me but it's cute that you would try and impress me like this. I'm genuinely flattered but I'm not really looking for anything romantic at the moment. All the same good luck to you, hopefully this can make up for some of the past traumas you faced. Assuming you are not lying about your stack in addition to all your other lies. Maybe pop a klonopin before you stroke out though. Don't want to be a cripple just before your 69 masternodes. A lamborghini wheelchair is probably not what you meant when bragging to mom how you've already made it and just need the rest of the market to realize that actually you are the one who's right.

This is honestly the worst fudding Ive seen yet. Someone is definitely unhappy they missed out cheap nodes. 50mil mc is still cheap btw.

>>21620967
>>21621003
Cope harder faggots. I aint reading you wall of fud. Your poor fudding is going to affect the price. Try again Tommorow maybe I'll join in.

>>21621053
Isnt going*

>>21621053
>can't screech anymore
>must go fuck cat

Tell us how she likes it, Grant :)

>>21621053
Meow meooow!

>>21620532
I think a 300m mc with 100m of daily volume is quite low. But a 6x from here is still 6x more than everyone else had before! Without the risk of losing it all on a PnD

>>21620868

Just to confirm the DEX channel alone was started at the end of August 2019, you can scroll all the way back and see how the DEX has evolved. That was when they started adding people to beta test it so alpha must have been going from early 2019.

>>21621112
You type like a chinese bot, most likely you are employed by cz. Have you managed to figure out the aggregator yet?

>>21621196
Ip switching same fag confirmed. Cz you are done.

>>21621283
Yeah it's been in development for a long time now. Lightning swaps used be to pure code, now you can just click a few buttons and it's done. The dev team is incredible.

>>21621291
How far gone are you on the autism spectrum Grant. Is that why you have a cat, to calm your nerves? Does she keep you in your happy place so you don't start destroying your mom's basement?

>>21621306
No, Grant. That's another person. He's just joining in mocking you fucking your cat. It's funny.

>>21621398
Only asians use the name grant.
>Mentioning cats outta nowhere
Cope harder cz, stakenet isn't going to give you their code like blocknet did, they're not that retarded.

>>21621443
Not my fault your mom called you that, Grant.

What's your cat's name by the way? Is she gonna get a treat today? :)

>>21619035
>potential Monero link in
This has been confirmed since last year. X9 team was one of the advisors that helped Monero develop LN.

>>21621547
>X9 team was one of the advisors that helped Monero develop LN.
Didn't know this. good to hear.

>>21621334
Again can confirm here is the first guide they published on how to complete a Lightning Swap on mainnet, published Oct 2018 and another of their worlds first achievements:

https://link.medium.com/6WgiCRrK48

I just pasted it a gdoc to see how big it was out of curiosity and it’s 83 pages over 4600 words. To think that in less than 2 years they have condensed all that code down into a simple easy to use system is pretty incredible alone. You wonder why nobody else has done what XSN team has done before well this is why, it required a huge amount of work to get it where it is now.

>>21621571
Yeah this is one of the reasons im so bullish on xsn. The devs are on another level completely.

>>21619703
>in that big thread earlier wasn't there a video of trading WETH for XSN? Last i checked WETH was a wrapped asset.
Just because the DEX don't need wETH that doesn't mean we won't be listing wETH lol. The DEX will have ETH/wETH, why stick to one when we can have them all?

>>21621618
The reason wETH is used is because ETH does not adhere to it's own standards.

>>21619923
You really don't understand the project if you think you need a masternode to make it. But yeah stick to btc and pnd tokens if you think that'll make you rich.

>>21621443
Grant is not an Asian name AFAIK. Are you a hapa? Having a chink mommy it would make sense why you now think that. How sad, did she not breastfeed you? I can't imagine asians make much milk with such very flat chests. I hope your dad wasn't with her just because he's a pedophile. Did he touch you sometimes or try to put something in your butt while growing up? At least he tamed Ding Bong Ling-chan well enough she didn't eat your cat.
We might be more similar than you think. I was breastfed because my mother actually loved me. All the same I have a ridiculous breast fetish and found a girl who will induce lactation for me. I already have a Medela symphony breast pump, 4 different size flanges, and storage for gallons of pumped milk. I intend to get most fresh out of the tap but it never hurts to have some set aside for my protein shakes. I even got here a shitload of cowprint clothes and lingerie to wear. She's my milky little hucow. She's not the most submissive yet but I'll get her broken in eventually. She's really a sweet girl. If this is your thing you have to find a normal girl and get her to agree to it. Sure ANR personals exist but it's usually weird empty nesters, and barren women. I want a pet, not someone larping or reliving their days when they were useful and could nourish someone. I love being nurtured and doted on but one wrong thing and I blow up I'm something of a control freak so I prefer clear boundaries and playing Dom. I'm a bit of a sadist too. You haven't lived until you have a naked crying girl in front of you in utter fear and dread of the 6mm thick polycarbonate rod you hold. At the least you should save up and see an escort if you can't get a girl the normal way. Or guy, I won't judge(I will but I'll be nice to your face about it).

>>21621654
You missed my point. Even if Raiden will have BTC/ETH bridge, it won't exclude wrapped tokens because many people and companies are still using it.

>>21621769
Cope. Took you long enough to switch ips chang.
>>21621776
Oh didn't read properly. Also doesn't wrapping rely on trust the company? Seems like a security issue using wrapped tokens/coins.

>>21621666
Good point actually. The see-saw they 'borrowed' from PIVX isn't perfect but as long as you get out before the music stops you can do quite well with just staking or tpos. Equal split between mn and steakers is a refreshing change.
>>21621808
Why would I change ip? I've had the same Id this entire thread. You seem awfully paranoid. Is Chang your grandfather? I don't know what he did to you but I promise I have no interest in such things with you.

>>21621897
Seethe harder.

>>21619035
fuck off to never land with this shitcoin you faggot nigger

>>21621808

Seems like you don't know much about crypto, do you Grant. At least your honest about it, I'll give you that. Considering you joined the Stakenet Discord in July, and have spent all this time memorising whitepapers/posts from XSN so you can shill/fud them here verbatim, without actually understanding what's going on underneath.

And no, he still didn't IP switch. We're two different dudes. You can tell from the fucking grammar you fucking retard.

>>21621978
You don't even know who I am retard, been in much longer than july. Clearly you don't understand crypto. Seems you are terrible at spotting value.

>>21621999
Nuh uh Grant, don't try to pull ye oldy 'i'm an oldfag'

You joined in July, you have 1 masternode and you know fuck all about anything apart from how to please Princess (that's the name I gave your cat)

You aren't fooling me, you type the same way here as you do in the Discord; abrupt, obscure and out of place. :)

>>21622050
Cope. Why do you keep mentioning this grant guy?
>Still talking about cats
Go back. You are the biggest faggot i've ever seen on /biz/, switches ips and cowers when called out.

>>21622084
Go back where my dude?

You know you can never leave, right?

>>21621897
What see-saw from PIVX?

>>21622137
Go back to plebit since you love cats so much.

>>21621571
>>21621547
Wait what? XSN devs have mogged both LTC and XMR dev teams? Holy shit!

>>21622174
Grant, you're the one with a cat avatar on Discord.

How long has your masternode been up and running?

>>21621910
No, you are the hard seethes. It's a good project. Not my fault you can't be assed to even spend five minutes reading about it and you're too stupid to understand when we spoonfeed your gay baby ass. No skin off my back. Maybe you'll catch the next link or xsn, lol.
>>21621999
You are clearly Grant, don't try to deny it. Meow.

>>21621547
>helped Monero develop LN
What are you talking about?

>>21621897
Crazy how gooks not only look identical but also post identical walls of inane rambling. At least try to make your fud coherent enough for someone to not disregard and scroll past instantly

Watch the aggregator at work at the end in this video
https://youtu.be/e2MKOXXg048?t=229

>>21622241
Cope cz. Is grant your asian friend from mythbusters? I know your other 2 friends too.

>>21622253
>you are the hard seethes
Learn to speak english better cz. You guy haven't refuted my points about marketcap this entire friend. All you can do is talk about some grant guy and your obsession with cats.

>>21622364
Based. You can tell because they talk about cats and grant is a asian name (see mythbusters).

>lets stake shitcoins so i get liable for income gains
nope

should have removed their coin from livecoin

not touching a coin with faked volume, it's a pretty important metric to track when hunting shitcoins

>>21623315
Welcome to every coin on every exchange

>>21623315
should have bought a masternode below 1k

you can still buy one below 10k, don't say we didn't warn you

>>21623315

>doesn’t realise that something like 90% of all volume is faked

Actually higher at 95% of volume being fake but yeah keep believing those “legit” exchanges.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/fake-trading-volumes-and-the-price-of-bitcoin-are-they-connected