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shill your underdogs, the misfits, the project that no one but you believes in but that inevitably will end up rewarding your faith. describe your thesis. pajeets need not apply.

>> No.21095862
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>>21095851
I will start with Zclassic (ZCL), the infamous fork of Zcash (ZEC). The project has been revived about six months ago by three developers incorporated under the name of "Zclassic Labs". After its historical rally mid-2018 ($200), the project has completely bottomed out at $0.20 following waves and waves of capitulation. Zclassic is essentially Zcash but without its most controversial aspects: there are no dev-tax, no set of central entities exercising special power over the network, and the emission schedule sticks to Bitcoin's. Here is my thesis: Zcash is posed to breakout after a three year long bear that was partly due to its high inflation rate (30%) and to the sell pressure created by its primary caretaker (ECC/ZFoundation). They have solved the main roadblocks to the adoption of shielded transaction ("z2z") cutting the time and cost to generate a transaction by several orders of magnitude. It used to take +5 minutes with a quadcore + 8Gb of RAM to generate a shielded transaction. Today a phone can create one in less than a second. The Zcash breakout will attract a lot of attention to its sister decentralized project. We know that forks usually trade at a discount from their alt. Here the ratio between ZCL/ZEC price is enormous ($0.2 vs ~$100). This is extremely OVERSOLD. My thesis is that with interest in Zcash picking-up we will see the ratio normalize to something more reasonable. That alone provides an excellent opportunity to get rich. The multiplicators I have in mind are x50 to x100. If they seem crazy, keep in mind that it would put ZCL at barely $20 and a top-50 project. You can put the proceedings in whatever project you like best, whether it is LINK, XMR, ZEC, BTC, ETH.

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>>21095862
That's part one of my investment thesis in Zclassic. The second part revolves around their imminent (a few weeks to a month?) listing on Uniswap. The Z Labs developers are working on a Cosmos bridge that will allow interoperability with Ethereum. For the oldfags among us, this is essentially a practical implementation of atomic swaps between Zclassic and Ethereum. In line with that effort, Zclassic devs are currently burning coins at a decent rate. So to summarize, we have:
- a coin that has fully bottomed out
- trading at a crazy discount from its main
- with no sell pressure
- representing a credible alternative to its main project (no devtax)
- with a baseline buy pressure (coin burning)
- about to be listed on a high profile, high liquidity DEX

I think this should grab your interest

>> No.21095992
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NANO will moon one of these days and it will blow everyone's faces off. Instant and feeless transfers and no one is batting an eye.

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>>21095992
bump

>> No.21096510

>>21095851
>>21095862
>>21095963
Good points OP I think ill pick some up. If theres a chance it can 100x its worth it

>> No.21096542

>>21095851
BRR is a hyperdeflationary coin that attempts to burn itself to zero and trap all the ETH liquidity that it's staked against. under 1 cent right now, will hit .02 today and then probably will go fast to $1 after the dapp comes out next week. don't care if you buy or not, i already got my initial back and i'm going to be fucking rich from this coin. /biz/ retards will pump this thing until it hits twitter/youtube retards and then it will go parabolic

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BSV is going to change everything but biz is truly not ready for that one yet

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>> No.21097160

>>21096510
godspeed anon, and good luck
>>21096542
interesting at face value, trying to find more. what's the point though?

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>>21095851

>> No.21097209

Veo. Only viable alternative to ethereum Defi

Dedicated chain for derivatives. Fair launch pow coin, dev spent years doing pos research with cosmos & found it wasn’t secure. Used to work w vitalik. Developed augur mvp & designed aeternity. Futarchy governance instead of voting. Unique oracle mechanism. Less than $2m mcap.

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>>21097209
I'm going to look into it, I love futarchic system. i think that's where governance is headed once the we're done with the "basics". so I take it that's a recent launch, does that mean we're in the high-inflation phase of the emission schedule?

>> No.21097409

>>21097160
>to burn itself to zero and trap all the ETH liquidity that it's staked against
there will come a point where there is only 1 BRR left in the liquidity pool and we're still burning 4% every day with the dapp

>> No.21097449

>>21095851
i understand contrarians and how they make money

but you have to undersatnd contrarians lose money a lot of the times trying to fight the trend

best is to identify up and coming trends and get on them

like Defi for example

>> No.21097501

>>21097286
Launched in Mid 2018 anon. Inflation is down a lot since then. I think it’s around 8% per year now.

Ath was around $1k. I think now is the relative bottom but its still a moonshot

>> No.21097621

>>21097286
Here’s a good summary but some of it is slightly outdated technically now. https://www.kanaandkatana.com/blog/2019/5/4/amoveo-peer-to-peer-synthetic-derivatives

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>>21097621
interesting, the guy worked on Augur I see and is obviously technically talented. but the fact that it didn't pick up any traction in a whole two years makes me pause. what happened?

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>>21097449
we're all about convex trades (high upside, low downside) and most /contrarian/ casuals where already balls deep in DeFi a few months back before the pump. we saw the writing on the wall. honestly the track record of this thread is pretty spectacular even though it has always been low-key

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>>21095851
5.5 million mcap. Ath holders and increasing every day.
>"The STA Token can be “injected” into any financial instrument or digital asset ecosystem. Put another way, STA provides the ability to inject sound monetary policy into any financial instrument in crypto and even in the world (through oracles). We see this as a very bright future for STA as a token." This means the uses of Statera are endless, I don't know what a deflationary crypto loan looks like, but the openness of possible use cases is interesting. The fact that it can act as a tool for putting sound monetary policy into anything is really interesting.

>"...Within [Statera's] financial products, it forces a flight to quality and an alignment to market pressures. We believe the market pressure of cryptocurrencies is bullish, and Statera will reflect that much more naturally and powerfully than any other type of asset." This was in the Deflationary Token section, and I'd highly recommend you read the whole section. The long and the short of it is that deflation is far more powerful and important to good economics than you can imagine. If a currency is deflating and appreciating it forces a lot of healthy economic choices that are good for savers and good for your assets.

>> No.21098858

>>21098627
yea the absolute fuck all autists we're all in defi last year

IT WAS CLEAR DEFI WAS THE NEXT BIG THING

NOBODY KNEW WHEN IT WOULD HAPPEN

ITS PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR NOW AINT IT

VC FUNDS MAKING DEFI-FOCUSED FUNDS

DEFI IS LESS THAN 4B MCAP

IM SO HYPE HOLY FUCK IM IM IM COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING IVE ALREADY MOONED IN MY MIND

IM ALREADY IN THE MOON IN MIND

IVE ALREADY FUCKIGN MADE IT

THE VISION IS CLEAR IN MY FUCKING BRAIN UCRANIUM

>> No.21098888
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THE DEFI VISION

THE DEFI VISION IS CLEAR

THE BULL IS COMING FOR DEFI

>> No.21099641

>>21098400
No easy to use product yet plus no funds for exchanges etc.

Subcurrency update soon will be interesting, hoping to see use by more people

>> No.21099809

>>21099641
yeah it's really hard to make it to a decent on-ramp without funds or a champion, that's why I always saw IEOs as promising. liquidity matters. will an eye on it though. things can change.

>>21095862
>>21095963
zefi.network by the way, forgot to link

>> No.21099871

>>21095851
$XAMP
BOMB philosophy with AMPL mechanics
Trustworthy, yet mysterious dev
Liquidity locked, exit scam impossible
All holders will be airdropped the dev's next project
Telegram has a shocking lack of super pajeets that most telegrams are overrun with

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$trade - will add proper exchange tools to uniswap
$col - will allow lending based on multiple erc20 tokens and other shitcoins
DeFi is the first real application of ETH and the alts.

>> No.21100083

>>21099809
>zefi.network
Interesting

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https://medium.com/idena/idena-oracles-c6e5b1908c9f

This project will succeed inevitably.