/biz/ - Business & Finance

Is this bitcoin?

>>21053931
replase b/sh

>>21053918
Wallet 237 reporting
Inall seriousness biz, get the fuck in Pnk asap

>>21053918
There doesn't appear to be a Kleros-Chan
No qt anime coin-fu, very sad

Why wont shitting binance list pnk

*ting ting ting*
*ahem*
Kleros will hit $5 end of December.
Congrats to all who have boarded the kleros train already.
For those who haven’t, it isn’t too late to buy sub $1
>inb4 Indian FUD shilling

>>21054692
Inb4 I put all of my savings into pnk cuz I'm tired of being a minimum wagie at Amazon.

>>21054904
It’ll hit $0.20 end of next month, you could always quit the game then

>>21054565
FUDders get pink IDs, as is tradition.

>>21055014
How should I distribute between pnk and link? 70/30?

>>21055338
Do 30 in PNK, 20 in Link, and keep 50 in your savings account desu bro

>>21055338
66/33
So you can say you have 2 in the pink 1 in the stink

>>21053918
why is this better than nexus mutual?

>>21055555
Fucking checked.
Because number go up

Do you guys realize that Kleros is already in the top 150 without big exchanges? Just imagine the hype when it hits one of them.

Buy now or cry forever.

>>21055483
I like it

Oooooooooo
Ooooooooooo
Oooooooooooo

>>21055744
It's insane. Top 5 crypto project, at 10c with $40mil mcap, no major exchange listing, normies have no idea, Reddit thinks it's a biz scam and we are accoooooooomulating make it stacks in the meanwhile. Based.

>>21056127
Top 5?!? KEKW

I'm surprised it made it this high.

It's use case is so small. Sell now before it dumps.

>>21056434
Nigger detected

>>21056434
So the guy who was not able to see it coming is now giving advice. You say sell? We say hold.

Kleros is retarded: who the fuck will listen to their rulings?
Even the grand international court of DenHaag gets a smile and a 'fuck you' from the people they 'prosecute'.
The idea of cyberspace normie juries is retarded, who do you think this will attract?
Normal people will not sign up to be a juror, it will be those people who now conduct witchhunts over twitter posts.
Only the insane will sign up for this shit.
Don't put too much money in this shit, though a few hunderd probably won't hurt you.
It might see some growth in the near future, but will never succeed.
The first actual 'process' will be against some pajeet or russian who tried to scam someone.
The whole 'court' will be exposed for what it is: absolutly nothing of authority.
Think of the UN intervening on the Serbs.
The Serbs were able to shoot a load of muslims under the nose of the UN, they could do nothing, no authority, no way to protect, defend, or any of that shit.

Band went from 0.30 cents to 7.50 in 6 months, which took Link more than 3 years to do. Link is supposed to be the standard you said?

>>21056434
Literally telling us you don't know what you're talking about

>>21056948
> What is dispute resolution
I suppose it's inevitable some retards will miss the train

>>21057108
That's not an argument faggot.
It's not about the nature of the dispute, it's a about no one giving a fuck about their ruling

>>21056948
It's apart of smart contract stacks, if you dictate that Kleros will be the resolving mechanism for a given smart contract it won't be a matter of listening to rulings, it will be auto-executed when a dispute is made and decided on.
This is perfect for plenty of small scale smart contacts, which there will be millions of in the future, where going through courts isn't worth the time or money for resolution or it's difficult due to international circumstances.
The future of crypto is in smart contracts, decentralized dispute resolution won't be as important for smart contracts as decentralized real world IO (LINK) but it's still integral and insanely undervalued at a <$50 million marketcap.
Easiest 100x right now, don't miss out and pick up a stack of at least 50k quickly.

Where to buy?

>>21057435
Uniswap
Or trust wallet

>>21057435
Uniswap with Eth.

>>21056948
Dispute resolution via Kleros could well be part of a real world contract. If it's breached then the resolution could escalate further to real world courts

>>21056948
Dumbass it isn't a real court solving whether or not someone killed a man

>>21056948
>who the fuck will listen to their rulings?
Disregarded. It’s pretty sad how angry you are at something you don’t understand at all, not even at a basic level. Everyone please laugh at this frothing retard who thinks kleros is a legal claims court system.

>>21057365
The person you replied to deserves to get their head bashed in

>>21056948
>The Serbs were able to shoot a load of muslims under the nose of the UN, they could do nothing, no authority, no way to protect, defend, or any of that shit.

PNK, RSR, BRDG
SO many good projects right now so cheap. Idk which to choose

>>21057468
>>21057502
Not him but aside from uniswap, what else?
I only see bitfinex rn

>>21057502
Which wallet do you use on uniswap?

>>21057574

>>21057765
Also curious, it lists coinbase wallet there, does that work even though it's not listed on coinbase yet? I can still invest sizeable amounts (1500 a week) so been accumulating link (6k omw to 10k) but I could grab this instead and be over 100k in a couple months.

>>21056948
>Kleros is retarded: who the fuck will listen to their rulings?
Doesn't know what a smart contract is

>>21053918
How high can this shit go?

>>21055483
kek

>>21053918
This PNK coin ,, it's the next ethereum

>>21057842
Their wallet doesn’t support it. If you try it’ll error

Use trust wallet

>>21054692
ANYONE WHO FUD PNK IS HIRED INDIAN

>>21057842
>>21057765
>>21057689

I use Metamask and the only exchanges are Bitfinex and Uniswap AFAIK.

>>21057685
Go all in PNK. I sold my entire portfolio including 15k LINK to do the same.
I have faith in both LINK and PNK but
$50 million -> $5 billion
marketcap will naturally happen before
$3.7 billion -> $370 billion (higher than BTC at the peak of the 2017 bubble)
LINK has already had a lot of price realisation and Reddit/Twitter attention, while PNK is mostly unheard of.
If you are serious about making it PNK is your best bet right now.

>>21058060
Can I explain a dip to get in? Or should I start buying now?

>>21057927
Thanks fren. Question for someone like myself who can put a lot of fiat in still, would you just finish your make it stack of link or grab pnk?

>>21057365
I am buying $20k worth today. I got FUCKED OVER by an Indian billionaire I helped him grow this massive line of business and he stabbed me in the back and refused to pay me over $500k-$1MM. If smart contracts and Kleros had been in the stack, I would have been able to retire my family by now.

>>21058157
Tbh I’d go PNK, it’s yet to be listed on any major exchanges and hasn’t had much publicity other than here and Twitter.
They need to hire more marketing and grab more investors for this to really be successful not only for the project but for us as well.
I don’t want to say it’s a guaranteed 10x, but it’s pretty much a guaranteed 10-20x

>>21058097
>expect*

>>21057365
That would require kleros to be a part of that specific chain.
What makes you think chains are going to invite an intermediate, doesn't that go against the filundamentals of crypto ideals?
Even if thay manage that, nothing is to stop someone to simply withdraw their money and dissapear even before the ruling starts.

>>21057522
no shit, never implied such thing, read that post again

>>21058097
Start accumulating immediately, any price under $0.20 is practically you scamming the weak hands you are buying off.
Make sure to FUD PNK as much as possible outside of /biz/ if it's ever mentioned until you have at least a 100k stack.

>>21058286
I'll probably pull the trigger then, can always move back to link if this moons to a dollar quickly.

Complete newfag here. I just attempted swapping my STA for more PNK on Uniswap and it took $2 of ether from me and no swap took place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

>>21058319
>Why would Amazon delegate dispute resolution to Kleros if they can pay millions each year to do it themselves?

>>21058471
It be like that sometimes

>>21058515
What makes you think actual goverment or jew banks will recognise "le internet court" rulings?

>>21058471
Hit the edit under gas fee and change the speed. Fastest is usually only a few more cents than slowest and works much better

>>21058602
Why the fuck would government be involved anon? Are you seriously this dense? This isn't about judicial rulings you absolute brainlet. No one's on trial here. How do you think online commerce settles disputes today? In a courtroom with qualified lawyers and a jury of peers? Kek. Read up or stay poor, it's up to you.

While you guys are too busy wasting your time asking silly questions about real world adoption, PNK goes higher and higher every day. Imagine the profits you're missing out.

>>21053918
shilling buy how many gains have already been missed truly is the dumbest strategy

>>21058602
Btw, thanks for the replies, I might sound like a homo, but that's only because I like to suck dick.
You guys came with compelling arguments so far, just not enough to refude my main point of >>21058602
Make me believe in this project!
If you can't convince one homo you might as well go gamble on soccer.
What makes you think this has actual potential?

Complete newfag here. I just attempted swapping my STA for more PNK on Uniswap and it took $2 of ether from me For miner fee, sent $0 to some random account and no swap took place. I did this by connecting to my Coinbase wallet and selected STA to PNK, Any input would be greatly appreciated.

>>21058726
Courts will be involved when dealing with middle to high amounts of money

>>21058319
>What makes you think chains are going to invite an intermediate,
Some people won't agree to make a smart contract unless there's an opportunity at dispute resolution.
It's similar to how most people refuse to accept Bitcoin instead of PayPal now because there's a chance of scamming, Kleros will solve that issue.
Also it's cheaper and more efficient in a lot of cases than normal dispute resolution processes a la >>21058515
>doesn't that go against the filundamentals of crypto ideals?
Not really because the dispute resolution process itself is decentralized. It's only going to enhance adoption and real world usability of crypto.
>nothing is to stop someone to simply withdraw their money and dissapear even before the ruling starts.
You can't do that if your money is locked into a smart contract.
>>21058602
There are plenty of smart contract cases where people are very unlikely to go to real court to overturn the resolution, Kleros is designed for such.

>>21058796
>>21058697

>>21053918
/biz/ will fomo in at a dollar. Feeling so comfy holding my kleros

>>21058372
Baste.

>>21058726
Why are you spoonfeeding retards anon?

>>21057927
This is not true. Coinbase wallet is different from coinbase. You can hold PNK in coinbase wallet. You can also use uniswap from right inside coinbase wallet.

PNK MY DEAR

>>21054654
How's this? I have no editing skills

>>21058782
>>21058821
Why would you bother going to court if jurors that are generally experts in the field are voting, with potential profit and their own money on the line as an incentive to be objective, against you?
In most cases the courts are going to agree with the Kleros jurors, so you would just be wasting your time and money trying in most cases.
It would have to be a lot of money involved which is a very tiny minority of transactions.

>>21058821
You can’t make this shit up guys.

>>21059469
There is nothing stopping me, a giant faggot, from signing up to be a juror.
There will be no experts, instead there will only be people who got nothing better to do.

>>21059334
Not sure, feeling generous? I want us all to make it, but some people don't deserve it I guess.

>>21059638
If you vote randomly and it ends up being against the majority you miss out on the payout and lose some of your own money, so that's a quick way to become a giant faggot that's also poor.
Naturally this will create an incentive to only vote on cases that you understand well.
Read the whitepaper here https://kleros.io/assets/whitepaper.pdf

>>21059638
>What is game theory
>What are financial incentives
Pic related.

What apps does anyone use here to keep track of their portfolio?

>>21059389
cute

80/20 link/pnk

>>21059389
Based and Aoba is a good pick.

>>21055338
>>21055392
oh wait you mean in total?
anon is right about keeping 50% in savings, but the amount you spend on link/pnk make it 80/20 or 75/25 if you feel ambitious

>>21056948
>Kleros is retarded: who the fuck will listen to their rulings?
it's built into the smart contract

Can some kind anon explain the difference between Kleros and Aragon?

Aragon is decentralized courts and Kleros is decentralized dispute resolution (arbitration)?

Im taking some xrp and mana out to buy pnk... I hope I raises at least 10% in a week.

>>21057765
i like metamask

>>21058157
maybe go "if you have 100 bucks to put in put 80 bucks on link and 20 bucks on pnk"

>>21057689
it's still so small it's only on 2 exchanges
that's how early we are

>>21060123
i don't use an all-in-one because i like to keep things separate, but blockfolio might work

>>21060281
aragon is a copy/paste of kleros code

>>21053918
Wtf, do you really think that this system is going to work? People troll in fucking arbitary things and why whouldn't they troll in a system that rewards trolling?

>>21060689
I would trust Kleros jurors to get it right over the Indian dispute settlers who work at PayPal.
Anyone who has done any sort of e-commerce in the past knows how annoying and drawn out traditional dispute resolution is and knows how much PNK is going to explode in value.

>>21060689
people don't troll if it'll cost them hundreds of dollars in losses to do so

>>21060554
This isn’t a lie, they forked kleros repo on github

>>21061096
kek there was even a pic from their github like
"to do: remove all mentions of kleros in the code"
what mongs

What’s the make it stack? 10k? Just put 1k to see how it goes

>>21061131
>>21061096
>>21060554

Has the Aragon team been executing better than the Kleros team? Their market cap is higher.

There’s so much FUD to wade through

>>21061287
aragon i've not kept up with but kleros is doing excellent
hundreds of cases so far and hundreds of thousands of dollars has gone through it
aragon idk if they even have any cases yet

>>21061441
*hundreds of cases so far and hundreds of thousands of dollars has gone through kleros

>>21053918
i bought 600k at 1 cent and sold for 10 cents then moved the gains into a project guaranteed to succeed, RSR.

THANKS FOR THE FREE MONEY PINKIES

bros...

>>21061287
Aragon has sperg heavy, heavy bagholders from 2017, reminder that Digibyte's marketcap is still $360 million.
Kleros has a working product and a better team and will smash straight through Aragon's marketcap by September.

>>21062376
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>21056434
Dumbass

If you’re not in pnk yet don’t expect to make it. Unless you have a fat stack
Of link. 50k+

>>21062376
well. I told you.

>>21053918
I just want to be on a jury

>>21062798
How much pnk do you need? I can probably get to 200k within a few months

>>21062798
10k link 250k pnk
i hope i make it

Fud sirs please , my tuk tuk is not prepared as yet

>>21062897
As many as possible

>>21062955
Asked this a couple times but at 6k link would you try to finish a 10k stack or start accumulating pnk?

>>21063038
I could have 10k link by December assuming average price of $10 so that’s at least a couple hundred k pnk

Newfren here, wats a make it stack bros? Fucking wagie and cant do this shit anymore. Got $500 i can spend.

>>21063109
used to be 500k make it 50k suicide but now i hear more 250k make it 25k suicide

>>21062904
Solid make it stacks

>>21063038
Pnk.
It will get to $10 quicker than Link will get $1,000, if it does at all

>>21063199
Sound logic. I’ll have my first 15k pnk Sunday

>>21055483
lmao you can also say 2 in my PUSSY and 1 in my ASSHOLE!

>>21063199
One more question, if pnk hits $ before link hits $20 would you move it all back to link?

>>21062376
Fuckkk when will it dump already?

>>21063334
*$1

>>21056127
top 5 according to who?

>>21063334
almost quads
that's hard to say. honestly i'd hold both and never sell
if i could make more with link staking than pnk staking i might shift some over though

>>21063444
Fuckin checked. Thanks frens, looks like I’m riding out the bullrun with 6k link and however much pnk $1500 a week can get me, cheers.

>>21055483
What about a minivan distribution? that's like 28% PNK 72% LINK, two in the pink five in the stink.

>>21063433
This thread reeks of Indians. Ignore.

>>21063680

>>21058768
Is PNK a bubble?

>>21063830
it's pumped a lot lately so expect a dip eventually
market cap right now is still really small

>>21062798
lets say i buy PNK today for the first time, 0 other crypto, how much PNK do i need to buy to not get fucked

>>21063999
checked
gas can cost several dollars so it might have to be several hundred just to not feel the burn as much on gas

>>21063999
>>21064106
*several hundred dollars

>>21058319
maybe because the money is in an escrow account , jfc go do some research before you try poking holes in a project in order to sound smart

>>21063914
Shit. I just got 25k at 10c. Am I fucked?

>>21063334
>>21063334
No. I'd get lynched for this on Link threads but I don't personally thinl Link will crack $100 for some time. The $1000 thing is mostly meme driven, and woukd only happen towards the end of this decade. I used to hold over 20k Link but bought around $2.70. My goal is 100x asap , regardless of the coin.

>>21064297
it's a long term hold, fren

>>21064365
Thanks fren. Hopefully I can get to 100k before the end of this year.

>>21064423
100k is an ultra comfy hold, $1 per pnk = $100k.

best of luck to you

>>21058602
Literal brainlet. This isnt about judicial courts. Have you ever heard of
Smart contracts?

>>21060281
Aragon is a copy paste shitclone of kleros. Ran by greedy faggots who love the wash trading bot.

>>21060963
“I’m so sorry to hear you are having this problem sir” I fucking hate those phone pajeets

>>21061287
Aragon is a hype bubble. The devs don’t even know how to make shit lol they just take it from based clement. Aragon even admitted doing a 0 work clone of pnk.

Basically PNK is Eth and Aragon is Tron. Best way I can put it

>>21064489
Do you think it could go higher than 1$? Will it ever hit numbers like 10$ or 100$?

>>21064662
It’s basically link but is a subjective Oracle instead. Not to mention they have like 10 other dapps Kek. $10 is not out of the picture unironically

>>21064662
$10 is entirely possible. $100 eventually, 2025 onwards

>>21055555
jesus christ checked. im not in pnk and im scared now

>>21064747
>>21064711
We're gonna make it.

>>21064798
You’re running out of time anon.

>>21064662
Anything is possible. Most biztards think pnk is for courts of law. The absolute state Kek

>>21053918
What a stupid infograph, imagine believing that the entire US court system and international arbitration infrastructure which handles this kind of stuff this isn't going to adapt and regulate blockchain disputes.

>>21057108
>>21057287
these retards don't realise that smart contracts are deterministic by nature and with oracle layer being bullet proof, there won't be any "disputes" by definition thus rendering this shit coin useless

How to buying pnk sirs?

>>21064923
uniswap plzz sir....

>>21061096
>>21061131
>>21060554
this is confusing as aragon has been trading for almost a year longer

>>21064918
FUDders get pink IDs

Should I swap my LINK and ETH for this? Bare in mind I only have like $260 [ut in so I'm willing to risk it on a moon mission.

>>21065013
not an argument ranjeesh

>>21054692
>Kleros will hit $5 end of December.
If this happens I'll unironically a life changing amount of money.

>>21058471
Any luck yet? The gas fee might be too low. It sounds like you're too new to know how to adjust it. Just ask and one of us will help if you're nice. More details anon.

>>21063914
It will dip, but I wouldn't risk waiting for that or swinging. People are only just waking up to this gem, it's still incredibly small and could explode at any time.

>>21065019
i'd never sell link
putting a small amount of ETH might be a good long term idea
t. 10k link 250k pnk 500 eth

>>21065089
yeah i don't swing, i just hold
shit can explode upwards and then you're SoL

>>21065042
I'm done trying to educate you braindead faggots. Everything has been said in this thread. See you at $10 brainlet.

>>21065110
Cheers Anon, appreciate the advice. Best of luck with your investment.

>>21065317
blessed, anon
i hope we all make it

>>21059836
Hey man, you seem based. I noticed the white paper didnt mention anything about pnk being blockchain agnostic like LINK. Do you know if it is? And if it is how much of a problem is that?

>>21064918
Lmfao DYOR anon. There’s already been over 300 cases which netted the jurors over $500k. Get btfo entirely kek

>>21064918
Cringest shit ever. If you really think this then idk what else to tell you.

Where do I actually buy crypto and store, I wanna enter the Kleros train

>>21065610
I read in their latest report that they indeed have this ambition. I don't think that's a problem, on the contrary. It means Kleros will go where the growth is happening.

>>21065610
i know that link is going to have wrappedLINK to be used on different block chains, so i could see there being wrappedPNK to be used on different blockchains as well

>>21065787
i buy on coinbase
from coinbase i move ETH to a metamask wallet
using uniswap i can connect my metamask wallet to spend ETH to buy PNK

>>21065131
lol i swung just before it mooned this week. Added 10% onto my pnk stack when i bought back in but im lucky i didnt miss out

>>21063287
>when people ask me what autism looks like

>>21058782
>Make me believe in this project!
No
Fuck off
Do your own research

Been looking to diversify because I’m tired of getting rich off of my linkies. Why should I buy this instead of ampl?

600 linkies
10k kleros
Feels good.

>>21066195
good pnk-to-link ratio, i think

>>21066168
If you have to ask then you don’t deserve it. Buy ample.

>>21063356

You've been saying this since like 0.05, if not earlier.

Listen to >>21058372 and just get it asap or you'll be asking us at $1 when it will dump.

should I exit akro and go all in on this..

>>21053918
best one on that list

>>21064121
so 500 gets you 5k pnk, that good enough to start off with or what

>>21066916
i think that's a fair start

>>21065787
Klerooosh train sir!

>>21065880
Thanks for the info. Yeah I hope they pull it off, it would give me more security.

>>21067117
What gives me hope with this one is the FUD is still halfway decent, I've kinda browsed the threads non chalantly for a couple months now and halfway believed the pajeet shit, I got in link a year ago when the FUD was already half-hearted and people were already bursting with hopium.

>>21056948
based logic poster

>>21053918


this did 800% in ~8 months, and you want me to buy it? Give me a good enough reason to dump 50 ETH into this.

>>21066507
No, AKRO is absurdly based. I only hold Link, AKRO, and PNK

>>21068248
dyor noob. Every bagholder in this thread has gone x5 in the last 3 months so we dont feel the need to shill it to people who cant figure it out for themselves

So if you don't have enough PNK to stake in order to make it as a juror, you're essentially fucked? I looked at some jury odds sites and they say that even if you stake 10k PNK you only have about an 11 percent chance of being a juror