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FIRST FOR MSFT

post your gains

please help:(

i'm so red

>>20975867

What’s LDOS and BP gonna do tomorrow morning lads? Pump or dump?

>>20975867

>>20975833
>that image
So, Bears will have the final victory?

>BUY DIS
>SHORT DIS
>BUY DIS
>SHORT DIS
>BUY DIS
>SHORT DIS
make up your mind, /smg/.

OSS moon mission has started

>>20975947
iron condor!!!

>>20975916
if you kill the bulls we win

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bulls gonna RUN!!
Get that MILK

Bears get cùcked, drink their own tears

I'm getting to the point that I'm going to deposit money into robinhood and just buy in the money calls because let's be honest, JPOW will just keep on printing money until the election. You guys have a week more of the bull run while my deposit is processed.

Can someone explain to me why I can't just invest and hold TQQQ long term? It's already up 200% from the March 2020 pandemic dip.

Can I buy stocks with a credit card?

This is an extremely nervous crab market.

Any BAM shills still here? I bought 504 shares around the end of April and I'm still down 2.83% despite the relatively good timed buy(considering the rest of the market). I think I'm gonna sell this bag, my last non-tech stock.

>>20976070
Not directly. You can apply for and use margin though.

>>20975885 #
>>20975894 #
smooth brains

Regeneron started full-scale production back in February or March (before any trials, obviously), there was never any doubt to the efficacy of their treatment. If you understood what they're doing you see, but you don't, because you're retards.

>MFW I only bought 30 shares of CLSK on today’s dip

Sweet sweet penny covid picks for tmrw?

IPNFF seems promising, on a side note

>>20975833
Lordstown motors vs work horse what is the difference? On has USPS deal but no factory?

What is this I'm reading about on stocktwits CCCP retaliating for Tik Tok? cant find anything about it

>>20976145
>that feel when I only bought 30 shares of DPHC and WKHS

>>20976175
which one has the deal?
/

>>20976070
you could withdraw cash from the card and move that into your account, but the rate would be much higher than margin

>>20976145
That's because you used the money on DPHC, right?

>>20976175
>>20976194
https://www.barrons.com/articles/ev-truck-maker-lordstown-motors-is-being-bought-how-to-trade-it-51596455534

buy buy buy

>>20976167
Rlftf

Reminder that tech stocks are a separate asset class from non-tech
Long tech market
Short non-tech market

>>20976175
One is the TSM to the AMD, if you catch my drift.

>>20976205
I did buy some, I also added $500 worth of WKHS on friday making my horse stack 360

>>20976070
buy everything else with a credit card, and use the cash you save to put into your trading account

Buy NET guys, been mooning like crazy

>>20975833
what is the next moon shot? already missed out on dphc

It finally happened bros, I got 10k in my investment account.
Felt weird to hold on to TSM after the pump but I'm thinking it's long term. Didn't take profits on my INTC when it was up and felt terrible to sell after the disastrous announcement, but in hindsight selling and switching out for QCOM was a good move.
My ABBV hasn't done shit for a few weeks, might do something with it I'm up 50% about.
MSFT being the anchor as usual.
One day I will stop being a wagie.

>>20976293
I have 50 shares already. Would it be good to scoop up some calls tomorrow to be ready for earnings?

>>20976046
>Can someone explain to me why I can't just invest and hold TQQQ long term?
You can in a bull market, outside of one you're going to get fucked because leveraged ETFs decay at a faster rate so you'll lose money even when QQQ is just going sideways.

No one truly knows if tech is going to be a bull market over the next decade so if you buy TQQQ, you're not really investing, you're speculating, and that is why most people will tell you to stay away from it. It's high risk, high reward. My suggestion is that if you do buy it, sell half of your shares if you get a 100% return and put the rest into something safer.

>buy calls
>stock crabs all week
>sell condor
>stock goes up 20%

why does this happen to me bros

>>20975833
holding FSLY calls through earnings, yea or nay?

>>20976046
You can. Boomer-long buy and hold TQQQ beats anything that's not another leveraged ETF or being an insider trader. Only way to do better is to strategically rotate TQQQ into VXX or TMF when it runs too hot, or to do 4x leveraged deep itm QQQ options (optionally with the mentioned rotation).

let's face it. this lordstown news all but assured the USPS deal is coming at least partially to the HORSE. this has not been fully priced in to the stock. the only logical play is to buy every dip, and we all know it.

Lads I broke 50k today thanks to the horse.

BASED horse.

>>20976330
tech master race right here. good job anon.

>>20976355
>No one truly knows if tech is going to be a bull market over the next decade so if you buy TQQQ, you're not really investing, you're speculating, and that is why most people will tell you to stay away from it. It's high risk, high reward
There is literally no leveraged ETF on the planet that has had more consistent returns in both a bull and bear market than TQQQ. Its more volatile cousins of SOXL and FNGU are close.

>>20976299
CYDY. They're about to get emergency approval for leronlimab against corona. I'm too tired to type more, but can go listen to investor conf call last week. Super promising drug for multiple diseases, all in late phase trials. It's right over 5 bucks currently. Easily double or triple in next two weeks.

>>20976175
Lordstown Motors makes shitty commercial pickup trucks for use in fleets, they won't have much mass market appeal because their range is terrible.

Workhorse makes electric mail trucks and owns 10% of Lordstown. Workhorse has a relatively high chance of winning a USPS contract worth billions.

I own shares of both, WKHS is the better company, but DPHC will probably have a higher return over the next few months.

>>20976377
Because you don't fucking HODL, I held horse and it made me money. Just hodl okay?

>>20976377
Your life is like the Truman show except the only thing watching you is the NYSE who inverse every trade you make

>>20976293
Think I’m going to pick up some tomorrow hopefully lower than it closed, but I don’t think it will dip much. Only have enough loose cash to get like 30 shares.

>>20976332
Man I'm not sure desu. I don't do options, I strictly long stocks. I'm on 250 shares rn can't decide if I should get more

>>20976416
This, honestly will buy if it dips back in the coming week.

Bros I finally hit 25k and now am allowed to daytrade. How can I get back under 25k asap

Congrats on all who held CLSK. The Jews tried to shake people with weak hands out of their shares. Those who held made the right choice. The Jews know CLSK is going to the fucking moon which is why they wanted to accumulate cheap CLSK shares

Bless all those who held. Diamond hands brothers.

>>20976377
>long on my portfolio
>goes down

every fucking time

Nice try USD, but Jerome is in control

Now let's get you back on track for 80 so we can start the golden bull run

>>20976491
daytrade

>>20976439
There hasn't been a real bear market since TQQQ came into existence. It probably would have gotten destroyed from 2000-2010, go look at the QQQ chart.

>>20976491
start day trading

>>20976495
>people actually sold CLSK today

is there any reason to incest in anything other than tech?

I know you guys don't care but ITUB profits fell 40% annualized and I'm hoping to buy the dip this week.

>>20976534
Of course. For example you should incest in your sister.

>>20976491
Just get a violation so you can only trade with settled funds. You get to stay above 25k AND not day trade. Win win

>>20976455
it really does feel like that sometimes. or if I post a play somewhere it does nothing, if I keep it quiet it works out big
>>20976451
I just play options I've acknowledged I don't have the patience to hold anything longer than a month or two

>>20976534
Invest in air conditioning and solar panels because there ain't no party like a permafrost party 'cause the permafrost melting don't stop

>>20976410
>4x leveraged
>deep itm
You aren't going to get 4x with deep ITM calls

more legitimate advice, read books? news? links? what am i chasing

>>20976650
a higher IQ probably

>>20976650
I get all my advice from stocktwits tbqh

in simple terms can someone explain the Intel sell-off recently? I am just learning options and TA and as soon as Intel dipped hard I bought some calls, seeing that the RSI was pretty low, but no one really bought up enough "cheap" Intel, and the dude that sold me the call is laughing his way to the bank now.

on the flip side, had I bought the call that morning and sold later in the day, I would have made a little money, since enough people DID buy up the "cheap" INTC, resulting is a bit of a price bump

>TA

>>20976718
>Intcel

also is anyone gonna play ROKU going into earnings?

>>20976718
>TA
You answered your own question

I want to sell WMT but I know there's no way holding on to it for a long time will be bad.
Forgive me smg, I'm going to hold it and turn into a boomer.

>>20976739
I have 2 shares!

I'm assuming cathy wood knows something we don't?

>>20976718
Intcel had to order silicon from TSM Thundercock because their diversity-hires fucked up so hard they won't have 7nm until at least 2021

yall niggas sleepin on NVDA tbqh
>Ampere
>ARM
Gains soon.

>>20976502
I'm not confident this rally attempt is over yet though.

>>20976825
I used what spare cash I had to buy 5 shares of aapl on friday. If my TSM calls print this week, then maybe I'll have enough cash.

>>20975981

>>20976849
>pink hair twintails
bitch looks cute... real cute...

>>20976718
>in simple terms can someone explain the Intel sell-off recently?

INTC basically admitted that it will tread water for three years and its competitors will eat up its marketshare.
It's unheard-of, I mean the only way for a company that had 99% of the server market to lose its position would be from regulatory actions or literally sitting on its ass for a few years and let its competitors catch up, and it seems that INTC chose the latter.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3599504-which-is-best-etf-for-amazon-apple-facebook-microsoft-and-google-momentum
>trying to buy FAGAM instead of FAGMAN
my fucking sides, they will never make it

What you guys think of BNGO?
I know its pennies but penny stock general is aids.
The news and break throughs with this company are crazy. Why hasnt it mooned?

>>20976819
>>20976904
thanks .. yup this explains where DD comes into play.

here's some Catherine

gimme some hopium. damn near offing myself holding cruiseline bags.

>>20976961
>news and break throughs with this company are crazy
Doubt.

>>20976904
They cut funding from R&D for diversity tax breaks. Short term gain that resulted in long term losses. I wonder how they will turn it around without losing publicity?

A lot of bulls thinking they are invincible and cannot lose with tech. This will not end well.

Kek @ the faggot who asked the other day whether NIO was dead.

went to the dentist today and got two teeth pulled and i am absolutely gone off the pain pills boys

>>20976985
you ARE holding cruiselines for the next 3 - 5 years, right anon?

>>20976966
What innovations does she see in Roku? What's left for them to do that they haven't already done?

What’s our play?

>>20977020
but I am invincible and cannot lose with tech

>>20977089
I'll buy a single put on Activision out of spite.

>>20977082
I have no idea, I unironically hold ARKG

>>20977089
For me it’s NET and ROKU

>>20977089
Hoping Regeneron doesn't crash on Wednesday... why would they announce shit 1.5 days before earnings?

Also... hoping NET, ATVI, SQ do give me some weakness to buy.

What’s some good stock market related kino for me to watch tonight

>>20977089
>NCLH before open Thursday
It’s gonna be a blood bath...

>>20977166

Bought CRUS and they got amazing earnings, think it will go up or is it already at the point counting the earnings

>>20977195
>yfw skilling is out of jail

>>20977089
Calls on flir

REEEEEEE
I FUCKING BLEW IT!!!

This stock is never coming back down, I'll never make the big waifu money...

> Bilibili Wins Three-Year Deal to Live Broadcast League of Legends Tournaments; Shares Rise Nearly 4% Pre-Bell
>5:20 AM 8/3/2020

>>20977089
papa johns calls because that guy is based

>>20977089
already up huge on fastly, letting some ride thru wednesday. I have AMRN too but I've gotten destroyed on them so far

>>20977298
Only man to predict the shit storm

>>20977089
>NKLA tomorrow.
I hope they drop to sub 10.

Where can I trade derivatives on weather

>>20976237
already mooned

Fuck me, shorting Kodak was the most obvious no brainer in the world but I wasnt sure how long the irrational exuberance would last.

>>20977351
>revenue: 0

go back to 18 you bastard.
i held. i should be rewarded.

>>20977351
>>20977406
I hate that faggot ceo he wants to be Elon soo bad but all he can do is post cringe on Twitter and not produce trucks.

Who /full participation DRP/ here?

>>20976293
Already bought last week

>>20977469
I cannot fucking believe I just put two and two together with the companies name being Nikola .. fuckin a bros.. I'm ngmi

>>20977353
Ag commodity futures u fucking dumb nigger

>>20977391
I pulled out too early, could've made nearly 4 times as much
Feels bad man

>>20977414
For what, being a bagholder?

thinking of dumping my oil and airline bags for like 50% losses

>>20977563
That name choice is one of the reasons I recoiled away from it and refused to touch. Knock off company but ALSO knockoff name. Then I saw the CEO was a doofus with a bad haircut and whiny social media persona.

Where are my MARK bros at?

>>20977620
>airline bags
HODL POLOS
HODL THE LINE
*flexes muscles*
*places his airline shares near his baseball memorabilia*

>>20977620
do you need to put food on the table or some shit? just hold ..

>>20977629
>the CEO was a doofus with a bad haircut and whiny social media persona.
Perfect for reddit investors

>>20977620
Unless youre certain you can make it back and then use that money productively in the short term, why would you sell a bag thats guaranteed to breakeven in the next year or so

>>20977620
Christ, how long have you been holding those?

>>20977089
When are they going to release the one for next week? It's already too late this week.
I bought NET and Etsy.

>>20977684
When was this, May? I'm trying to remember.

>>20977620
lmao airline baggy you fags were so confident a few months ago. remember you're hodling for 3-5 years! dont forget to add some CCL

>>20977690
no I'm just tired of them making me red every day even when my other stuff performs fine.

>>20977712
few months

>>20977714
I'm not certain but there's for sure something better out there

>>20977774
glad I didn't fall for the cruiseline meme at least

>>20977629
If you like EV so much (idc) buy Hyundai, they have an EV semi-truck project.
For some reason people assume EV will be taken over by completely new companies, I think there's a good chance Toyota and the like ends up dominating the market.

>>20977728
Early May

>>20977817
>no I'm just tired of them making me red every day even when my other stuff performs fine.

you are ngmi with that attitude. set it and forget it

>>20977832
I don't like EV sector at all and have no positions.

>>20977714
>why would you sell a bag thats guaranteed to breakeven in the next year or so

opportunity cost

breaking even is a meme, your goal should be maximizing your returns, not maximizing the number of even-breaking trades.

>>20977832
>being a TSLA bear
ELONBROS SNED ALL YOUR MEMES THIS WAY
>implying Honda has money printing roofs, money printing cars, money printing bore holes, and money printing tequila
Fuck JPOW, TSLA are appreciating money printers. BUY TESLAS NOW BEFORE THEY APPRECIATE

>>20977853
it ties up a little too much of my portfolio to set it and forget it

>>20977882
Depends on what 50% loss means. If the holdings are 5% of capital, sure. If its more like 25+%, then you have to hold them bags. If you ere dumb enough to airline or oil the first go around because you thought it was "easy money" despite everyone and all evidence saying otherwise, what makes you think you'd get it right the second time?

>>20977842
That shit went on for about a week. At least content was had from it.

>>20977906
welp I tried. good night and enjoy your losses.

>tfw put my life savings in BLIAQ

>>20975833
What catalyst will trigger the next breakthrough for PM's? They're basically at a wall.

>>20977020
>I'm sure this 5,000 year tech bullrun is just a bubble!
Tech has been the only thing worth investing in since bronze

>>20977684
I recognize that faggot. The best part about /smg/ is you get to watch idiots BTFO themselves and stop posting.
>>20977832
The Hyundai XCIENT is fuel cell, not battery electric, which is why it would have been a failure even if it wasn't made by Hyundai.
>>20977886
Cringe. Say some retarded shit so you stop coming here as well out of embarrassment. Maybe try "TSLA $10".

Why aren't you selling covered calls?

>>20977906
just close your eyes and cut the cord

>>20977374
Nope

>>20978020
I don’t have enough money for it to be worthwhile

>>20977886
Fuck that chink loving attn whore. He has a cool nickname and talked shit to lockdown libs for a month or two but that’s abt it

>>20977925
airlines is a poor investment long-term, with or without a pandemic. We know he wasn't "investing" in airlines, he wanted to buy the dip and then GTFO. Not worth turning a failed trade into a sudden hold as if he really trusted those companies.

>>20975833
FUCK FUCK GUYS I WENT ALL IN ON /LEANHOGS/

>>20977667
Dump that it’s a pnd with a ceo that was called Out on fraud many times

>>20975916
Did the goyim have the final victory when the Jews knocked down the Jewish towers? It's much the same story with the elites attacking the economy today due to "corona". It's a poignant symbolic image but not for the bluepilled masses.

>>20978060
Budget airlines can(before corona) make decent profit especially since nowadays twin engine jets can make trans Atlantic flights, making them competitive with the big airlines.

>>20978054
You have less than $2000?

SPCE is the only airline company you should even consider investing in

>>20978155
SPCE dip tomorrow. I want to get back in.

My sister said she would show me her tits for 1 share of TQQQ
wat do?

>>20978073
Fucking newfag didn’t buy feeder cattle and is still holding lean hog bags just lmfao at your life

>>20978192
Sister tits are non-durable assets
TQQQ is forever

>>20978192
Your sister is a gains goblin. Tell her to fuck off and she'll respect your big dick TQQQ energy and show tits anyway.

>>20978192
Give her 1 share of COCK

>>20975833
>bought PYPL today

Was I too late?

>nasdaq futures hit 11k
THE GOLDEN BULL RUN HAS STARTED

>>20978020
Broker doesn't offer options and only been trading for 1 month

>>20978155
>>20978180
SPCE isn't an airline company and they never will become one. Their commercial hyper sonic jet render is a complete joke and it will never be profitable, even if they manage to make it.

What they're doing is they're tricking gullible 'investors' like yourself to give them money so Branson can sell his SPCE stock and prop up his failing Virgin Airlines business.

Fuck bros I might just cut everything and go all in appl.

>>20978295
>he bought SPCE puts
I bet you also own WKHS and NKLA

>>20978295
super sonic jet*. I confused them for a second with Boeing that has a jet design they're also never going to build which is much faster than the Virgin one.

>>20978192
just SHOW them to you?
That's all you get? A look at your sisters mediocre chest with her gross inverted nipples?

No, whats the point if you don't get to jiggle them around, motor-boat them, and suck/lick her nipples to feel her reaction?

>>20978348
I never owned NKLA or SPCE, either long or short. I bet you're literally retarded and you think that SPCE is the "Tesla of space".

>>20978374
She said I could finger her for a share of SOXL

>>20978295
Things will not go well for spce if ghislaine starts talking

>>20978020
Been selling soxl covered calls but man gains are pretty paltry compared to just longing calls

When the FUCK is tesla going back to 2000

>>20978503
EOY.

>>20978020
Too stupid for options trading

>>20978419
It's not going to go well regardless of that, SPCE is the NKLA of space and super sonic travel. They make a bunch of promises that are impossible to pull off and they string their investors along with computer renders. Virgin was going to have passengers in 2011 and they only thing they've done since then is kill one of their test pilots who accidentally hit the wrong button and tore the aircraft apart.

>>20978415
she's clever, don't trust anything she says

Better than dominos

>>20978546
Really really hope I don't end up regretting going with ETSY instead of PZZA this afternoon.

>>20978525
You’re smart then. Most of the idiots here are also too stupid for options trading and treat it like casino roulette

>>20978100
Source brother, if you’re right I’ll dump it

>>20978378
>>20978541
I made a lot of money on SPCE. They have a lot of promise on many fronts. They have legit backing and technology. I'm going to buy in again.
>SPCE = NKLA
NKLA doesn't even have a product and basically exists as an idea, you could say its a scam. SPCE has literally billions backing it and they already have 3 prototypes, at least one of them being tested.

>>20978437
What do you mean? As in you gain less than buying calls? Thats called hindsight and greed. If it went down or stayed flat, you be praising covered calls.

>>20978525
Smart. A good reason not to do options.

>>20978593
That is because they by options rather than sell them

>>20978592
I meant the pizza not stock

Is there a way to guessimate what an option is going to be going for at open? Like if I wanted to place a limit sell now but not be to far off the opening bid.

Why does MarketWatch suck so much?

There are people on smug RIGHT NOW with portfolios that aren’t 100% FAGMAN. Shame!

>>20978728
I am also interested in this.

>>20978740
How embarrassing

>>20978593
Options are devilish. Im done forever with them hopefully besides maybe covered calls starting next year.
Ive had half my worth in short term.options and just never again. The stress is killer even when right.

>>20978615
I’ve made about $300 so far off of 50 shares of Virgin Chadlactic I bought in late June. I’m not getting rid of them until they show signs of crashing.

>>20978740
Semi exposure + megatech is the way

Then real estate in sea once made it

>>20978737
because they're run by dirty commies

I might buy NKLA once it dumps after earnings

>>20978615
You made money because you bought into a pump and dump and sold at the right time, it has nothing to do with the company itself.
>They have a lot of promise on many fronts
Promise on what fronts? I can easily refute anything you say about the company, although at this point I probably shouldn't say anything because you deserve to lose your money for being stupid enough to believe retards pumping their stock and you're unable to do any real research on it.

Both NKLA and SPCE have prototypes, "legit" backing, and some technology. What they don't have is a profitable business model or technology that will actually be worth anything in the future. Hydrogen fuel cells are as big as a meme as suborbital space 'tourism'. In reality what Virgin is trying to sell is a thrill ride where you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend a few minutes in something that is barely classified as space.

>>20978768
Yea I agree with this. I’ve never fucked with options other than trying them out with >$50 just to see how they work but I’ve seen enough people on here bitch about losing thousands because they gambled on an option. They can be very useful if you’re using them as a security on your actual stocks but for retard day traders they’re bad to go.

>>20978796
i get the feeling they are all globalists. you know, not from the US.

>>20978737
Don't read their shit, just use the tools and ignore everything else

the real question is, is MSFT going to the moon or Uranus

>>20978794
The only question is whether it should be expanded to A FAG MAN, with amazon getting bumped to the first A spot and newcomer AMD in the 3rd A spot. I like Apple where it is in FAG.

Where are my DPHC bros at? How much did you buy? How long are you going to hold?
Bought 50 shares myself, hoping this shit moons even harder tomorrow

Realistically can I still make money buying tesla at this point?

>>20978848
Factual but i Bet with using the greeks and the jews, it's like hedging but smarter

>>20978867
I would've put a lot more money on it, but decided to split it with WKHS

>>20978832
Well. They have advantages in you can tailor the type of option to your trade idea. There's a lot of weird stuff with choosing how to roll up or roll out and diff things.

They let you get leverage and lots of great things but the time decay and premium is fucking hell.

Tqqq and the like feel like holding gold in comparison. Fuck options. I am up a lot on them but they are too stressful to do longterm. Way better with decent capital to do quality companies and secular growth.

>>20978814
>NKLA: literal who ceo, zero tech, no engineers, a bunch of show models and 3D drawings
>SPCE: back by literal billionaires, has exNASA scientists, experienced CEO, working product, vertical in-house integration
SPCE and NKLA are nothing alike. You're just rationalizing your blind hatred. Just move on, buddy.

>>20978879
You missed the train. Glad I got in at $400

>>20978866
It should be FAGATMAN to include tsla

>>20978866
t. fagman (TSM, and NVDA instead of NFLX) is superior

Stocks are a little unreal. Before, my money sat in my bank and they gave me $5 bucks a year to keep it there. Now, I make some clicks and and Im making hundreds of dollars at a time doing nothing.

>>20978866
Idk. I think semis just give good exposure to tech while diversifying out of the megas. They grow well too. So instead of just qqq you can soxx for a bit of added diversity even if minor

>>20978933
I could get behind this, but it makes me a little sad because it reminds me that I sold TSLA at 1,000

>>20978942
Yea it’s a weird feeling once you start making money. Like damn I made $2000 on 2 Tesla share and still hold 2 more.

How's Tinder been doing during Covid? I'm going in on $MTCH earnings

PYPL chads make yourself known. I want this stock to do good things in the future

>>20978939
It’s beautiful and way less painful for me than making the T Tesla. And the N was always Nvidia, or since Netflix started the minimum one gay character per show quota.
>t. fagman

Its a big fish world

>>20978867
50 here as well brother

>>20978609
https://www.classlawgroup.com/remark-holdings-inc-mark-securities-lawsuit/

>>20978964
There's a small window where stocks make sense.

Like, "oh, I'm funding a company, and in several years I will share in their profits. This is a sensible economic relationship."

But now it's just "lol, green line go up 1%, me take money back" after a few hours

How the hell does this trading and options and flat out gambling enable companies to do shit...

Portfolio because slightly bigger due to tax return. Still trying to recover from the COVID-19 dip :/.

>>20978919
Trevor Milton has almost the same amount of money as Branson. Both companies have no real revenue or profit and exist solely because of speculation from idiots. SPCE has a CEO with zero experience in spaceflight and hiring exNASA employees doesn't get you anywhere and if it did, Boeing would be the leader in spaceflight. Vertical integration in this context is just a meme, they build their prototypes in house like literally every other company in the space. If they could buy their planes so could any competitor.
>working produce
This is the most stupid part of your post. They have a product that kind of works when it's not killing test pilots, but it's not a profitable one. It will take years at max capacity to turn a profit even if they can find tens of thousands of people willing to pay much more than 250k to visit the edge of space for ten minutes. They realized that they couldn't be profitable at 250k per seat so that's going to get raised.

Virgin Galactic has never reached orbit. They have zero ability to send people to orbit. There's not going to be any space hotel trips or other bullshit from them. You're a fool for believing that they have that ability when SpaceShipTwo is clearly suborbital and they never denied it. They're selling thrill rides that will cost hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

>>20979135
The more you think about the stock market the dirtier it feels, and the less stocks feel like they are worth something.

So just don’t think about it.

What do ya'll reckon the odds are that my WKHS calls get executed once they're ITM?

Also, I think I'm going to hurt a lot watching that shit rocket while I hold to cover them, like a lot.

>>20978867
>>20979093
10 share phytoplankton here, 50% of my portfolio is already in WKHS I’m just here to watch, gl guys.

>>20979135
You can raise a ton of money with a hot stock. Issuing shares, convertibles etc

whats the next wkhs. like some forgotten company around $2 that will explode at any time. need to take these 200k wkhs profits and do another 10x

>>20979197
Not really. You are taking your capital and saving it and giving it to technology companies or w.e. Instead.

It leads to better capital allocation in society when people say invest in a solar panel company instead of going to the club three times.

Your investment leads to more people making businesses etc to satisfy the demand too.

Its a great use of capital for people to invest in companies of all sorts if they provide useful services and arent scams

>>20979251
DPHC and then RIDE, but only for the initial pump, get out as quick as you get in or you'll take a shafting like SHLL.

>>20978929
Except you got out at 600 lmaooo

>>20979251
wkhs gonna 20x in the next 2 years anon. well i hope they are lol

>>20979197
A year ago I thought I'd invest in ethical stock and companies I believe in.

Then I got actual money and am going "lol, evil apple cult with child slave labor make green dildo weeee." And I just don't care.

>>20978525
Selling covered calls is great, spend an hour on a couple youtube videos, find something cheap MVIS, MARK, FCEL or CPE will do, get your feet wet. You're welcome.

>>20978609
He got sued for not being able to pay his gambling debt https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Nevada_State_Clark_County_Eighth_Judicial_District_Court_Department_8/A-20-814881-C/Bellagio_LLC_Plaintiff%28s%29_vs._Kai-Shing_Tao_Defendant%28s%29/

>>20979322
>wkhs gonna 20x in the next 2 years anon.
Spoilers:
They won't. WKHS isn't a bad company, it just very limited because the delivery truck market is tiny and super competitive. At 20 billion in market cap they would be bigger than the delivery truck market.

>>20979343
Some Anon was playing Discover, the premiums are fucking insane for the weekly options, but you're gonna wanna cover, which with shit the way it is, Discover might take a beating and with a $50 price tag it's kinda expensive.

you guys getting into dphc in the morning right? it might run like WKHS to 20

>>20979376
what if they get the big USPS contract? am i looking some big bucks?

>>20979308
Nope I bought 4 shares originally, sold 2 at $1600 apiece, still holding the other two. Try again chief.

>>20979442
They are not getting a contract, anon. Get out while you can.

>>20979497

I'm a hopeless fool. give me some of that hopium. i need it

>>20979450
You missed the rally shithead

Brainlet here with question for fellow optionfags. I have purchased 4 DB calls (strike 5 expiring in Jan 21 '22). They are already ITM. I plan to hold them till expiration, but I was wondering If I could write short term calls agains them (and would roll them to further expiration if DB went up) to earn some extra monies. Basically what I'm asking is that if I can do covered call using options only and if so, how is this strategy called, so I can read more about it? Thanks

>>20978295
im just in it for those juicy small sat gainz

>tried to short MSFT yesterday morning
>lost nearly everything
kill me, there was no reason for it to go up

>>20979433
No with the Vice President visiting the plant
Watch as trump makes a campaign speech saying he is creating jobs in the USA by supporting lordstown motors with a 1 billion dollar loan
It will run like Kodak From 13 dollars to 60 dollars in a hour easy

>>20979442
It's a 6 billion dollar contract to build as many as 180,000 delivery vans so WKHS will probably pump if they get some of it unless it's already priced in. EVs are superior in this application for a number of reasons so I would be very surprised if they don't get any of it.

I think the greater issue is that they may not be able to turn billions of dollars in revenue into much profit and it may not be enough to justify a high market cap. This sector has been very competitive with low margins, there's going to be a lot more growth in other EV sectors like passenger cars.

>>20979623
Hard lesson. Do covered calls.

>>20979637
>It will run like Kodak From 13 dollars to 60 dollars in a hour easy
Stop it with your fantasies you might make me erect

>>20979376
I dunno if a 20x is realistic, but you're still looking at them conquering a large portion of the sector if they play their cards right. They're currently the only entrant in the C2/C3 market, they're CA CARB certified meaning that their customers get a huge subsidy for buying. They're also covered by the EV tax subsidy from the government, $7k up to 200k vehicles. Their LMT deal entitles them $520+ per unit up to 200k units (that's the 1% sales), that adds up to $104m. On top of that their share of the facilities is valued at $1bn (by analysts...). WKHS is also entitled to 1% of any debt or equity financing from LMT. Then there's their fat dick moat, their CFO indicated competitors are at least 1 year behind, possibly 2 due to certification caveats which WKHS has already completed. I imagine they'll be catching some political tailwinds as well, but that's yet to be seen.

But also, there has been a lot of market aberrations, so who the fuck knows?

>>20979612
>I plan to hold them till expiration
Why? Do you plan on actually getting the shares?

>>20979326
I'm halfway here. I'm putting some money into some ethical stocks and etf's. Would love to this that current generations are gonna drive green tech and stuff, but I'm risk averse enough with my money to know not to put all my eggs in the ethical basket.

>>20979623
No reason https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/microsofts-talks-to-buy-tiktoks-u-s-operations-raise-concerns-in-china-11596465664
Anon i

>>20979637
>WKHS given 1 billion dollars to provide trucks to air deliver covid 19 test kits and vaccines to homes

>>20979612
WTF sell them retard

>>20979710
tiktok isn’t even popular most investors my age that i talk to don’t even know what it is, how could it go up so much?

>>20977620
i know that feel friend. i've been selling covered calls so my losses aren't as bad as they would've been, but man i got my asshole tore up by cruises and airlines. i'm up overall though.

what oil are you holding? i've had xom for a couple months and have been selling CCs on that too. the premiums have me at basically breakeven.

>>20979617
Most smallsat launch platforms are already obsolete because of ride share with Falcon 9 which is dirt cheap because they're constantly launching Starlink sats. The only issue is that you may not be able to get the right inclination which in that case you would probably go with Rocket Lab instead of Virgin Galactic because using a jet as a first stage is an inefficient meme when you could just have a real first stage. I'm sure their pricing will not be as good even if they manage to get it to stop blowing up.

Eventually all of the smallsat launch market is going to get replaced because you'll be able to get a tug that will put your satellite wherever you want it after you use ride share to get into orbit. They can't complete with such low prices. Starship is going to ruin all these companies, even Rocket Lab.

>>20979753
Tiktok not popular ok boomer
Most people at my shitty job when I was wage cucking would post shitty dancing videos on tiktok during lunch break almost every day

Pro tip for trading: Stop thinking stocks will double in a week. Just ignore all the news about stocks that do that. Trade as if a stock will grow 10% a year. Your money will thank you.

>>20979815
children dancing is not profitable, MSFT shouldn’t have gone over 208, i’m thinking of shorting again today

>>20979251
HUTMF
(Hut 18)
Crypto mining... will be pumped soon. See MARA to see how big.

>>20979637
trump is just going there for a fundraiser event. wtf are you talking about

>>20979843
you said you lost everything

>>20979898

What's the play?:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/edhirs/2020/08/02/court-ruling-clears-way-for-energy-storage-on-the-grid-who-benefits/#1899ece57fc3

>>20979697
yes

>>20979731
I asked about specific strategy, not whether I should sell or hold you faggot

>>20979612
Why the long expiry? aren't those more expensive

>>20979948
in my account but i added more

>>20979612
Yeah you can do that if you want, the strategy you're talking about is called a poor man's covered call. You should be able to figure out the risk involved etc, especially with a company like DB.

>>20979688
Interesting. My main concern is that their profit margin may not be high enough to justify their market cap and their growth may stagnate if they refuse to move into vehicles outside of delivery trucks. It's a really saturated market because there isn't a large barrier to entry, you don't need good battery technology because the range can be low and you don't need good self driving technology because most companies are unwilling to pay for it and would rather their drivers do the work, not realizing how much they would save if they had autopilot and prevented more accidents. The trucks are bare bones. This coupled with relatively low production numbers means there's no real moat and it's a race to the bottom, whoever produces the cheapest truck can win government contracts.

Personally, I'll probably sell after the contract is announced. I have some DPHC as well but I don't like LMT and I think their truck won't be that successful. Just mostly hoping to catch a pump.

>>20980041
>My options are in the money but I plan on holding longer
Alright dumbass have fun losing money

>>20977089
>NKLA
Oh fuck, I bought NKLA without thinking about earnings. Am I fucked?
>after close
It seems not.

FUCKING LOL

OH FUGGG

I’ve really been wanting to buy AMAT and get more into TSMC now that amd has already mooned, but I’m getting the sense that maybe I should just buy amd and hold and stop watching the market for a few years.

Of course I can’t do that last part, but you get the idea. All this M&A is a strong indicator that a bottom was put in, and I’m still 40% cash and wayyyyy too diversified.

But MU could also double in the next 3 years or so...

>>20980114
You’re telling me Lockheed Martin has a truck in this e-truck contest? Jeez that company, skunkworks and space force and f-35 and Sikorsky it’s just... I want to buy more.

>>20980062
i just felt like it. I bought it during the covid meltdown, so the 4 calls were like ~800 in total, so it was more like a lottery ticket
>>20980066
I'm aware of them having huge problems, but I'm betting they are not going away and I'm pretty sure they won't go sub 5. But anyhow, thanks for the actually answering my question. My plan is to just cover the cost by doing the poor mans covered call to get my 800 back and then whatever.

Who else still holding their SPCE lottery tickets? I got 50 of them, up $300 on them so far.

>>20980114
The moat is based on paperwork, they're the only C2/C3 EV legally operable on US roads. There's also their drone segment, which is interesting but I wonder how practical it actually is, though it does make a good deal of sense in a rural area. That's another moat and another market.

We'll see.

>>20980154
> implying losing money is not part of the game
> implying I can lose on this trade
how new are you?

>>20980207
Ahhh, so that's what this is about. Not data breach related then.

>>20980210
Oof. Intel confirmed for having 3 years to prevent itself being the Boeing of semiconductors

>>20977175
fuck I stocked up on NCLH in May b/c I thought the rona situation was overblown and I could get in for cheap. Should I hodl? I imagine there's still gonna be a shitton of wealthy boomers looking for a nigger-free vacation after everything dies down

I THOUGHT TODAY WAS SUNDAY WTF DID I MISS

>>20980416
How?

>>20980210
My bad, that was an abbreviation for Lordstown Motors, I didn't mean the Lockheed ticker.
>>20980253
Rural deliveries does make more sense. I think they'll be unable to improve the speed of their drone deliveries to the point where it will be faster than someone walking in most situations. It seems more marketing than anything at this point and I don't think WKHS has the chops to break through on drone technology. I don't think they would have a moat there because they would be competing with Chinese knockoffs unless they write something into their truck contract.

>>20980427

>>20980463
You’re a NEET right?

>>20979617
I forgot to mention, Virgin Orbit is a private company and it's not owned by SPCE. You wouldn't see any of the profit even if it did work.

>>20980463
Kek

>>20980570
student waiting for school to start back up in a month.

BAKING

TSN did nothing for earnings, nothing I say

>>20980629
Don't post it until 310 replies. I'm sick of these early threads.

>>20980643
did they say anything on their call about any fun new chickens they're bringing to market? Maybe some new frozen products?

>>20980629
10 posts left...

NEW

>>20980674
>>20980674
>>20980674

>bears thought there would be a second leg down in april
hohoho

>>20980679
Make seven more posts in this thread, you piece of shit.

>>20980673
Of course they didnt, but theres only 6 more months until CAGNY

Reminder to buy PYPL as soon as possible.

>>20980207
>potential
Oh, are we still pretending?

>>20980719
Exciting! Maybe if New York is a ghost town because of the coof, we can get cheap airfare and check out the show ourselves!

>>20978867
I put my whole life on the line

>>20979795
the inclination ability with multiple planes could compete for a niche , but if its not the same company that kind of fucks that whole idea