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i'm still making so much fucking money and it's getting more and more disgusting (update)

>> No.20824812
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20824812

i showed you guys that i was adding ampl shorts to my position in the last thread. now i'm up another $100k. hope the guy with rotting teeth doesn't still hold this garbage, i warned you all

>> No.20824851

shut up faggot send me some money

>> No.20824865

the rest is still the same, shorting shitcoins and longing btc. didn't really make profits in those positions over the past 2 days since btc was stalling. but i increased my position size and now i'm shorting more than $700k worth of shitcoins and longing almost $700k worth of btc. as soon as btc starts pumping/dumping this will be gold

>> No.20824886

>>20824787
>60,0000 BTC
fuck off

>> No.20824896

>>20824812
What website

>> No.20824903

>>20824787
what percentage of your net worth is this?

>> No.20824932

>>20824903
100%
he is nuts

>> No.20824950

>>20824787
Take your profits and all in Suterusu before (redacted) launches.

>> No.20824965

>>20824812
I made 1million bucks in the last 2 weeks with Ampl you poorfag gambler.

>> No.20825013

>>20824903
by now i have 30% of my stack on this exchange (withdrew some today). it's a bit too much to keep on exchanges imo, but ftx is a registered exchange with a legit company behind it and i believ that they couldn't exit scam without legal repercussions

>> No.20825066

>>20824965
i know that ampl has been a gold mine, good job for getting in early. if you understand the market mechanics there's still tons of money to be made with this in the future. i'm definitely buying into ampl at some point when it's bottomed out in a couple months.
>gambler
i'm 100% hedged in all my positions except ampl but that one was a safe bet as soon as the ponzi started collapsing a couple days ago

>> No.20825132

>>20825066
What else can we short, anon?

>> No.20825374

>>20825132
you can short the whole market on ftx, anything you want, you can even short btc hashrate, gold or oil. currently i'm only shorting shitcoins though

>> No.20826038

>>20825374
I'm a newfag, where can Iearn about this? Investopedia?

>> No.20826264

>>20826038
yeah investopedia is good, and every exchange has a knowledge base where you can elarn about their trade instruments which helped me a lot when i started. trading books are a meme afaik. i read one with 300 pages and like 5 of them had valuable information

>> No.20826298

>>20824812
how does this work anon? do you set a date, or are you just betting on "line go down"?

i want to prepare for the next ampl cycle

>> No.20826456

>>20826264
based. which exchanges were used for the shorts?

>> No.20826568

Respect OP don't let the greed get you though even 200k is enough to live it up for the final few years before the AI rapes us

>> No.20826737

>>20826298
how does what work? trading? if you have no idea and want to try it out, don't use more than lunch money, you're gonna lose it anyways
>>20826456
ftx
>>20826568
thanks for the reminder, anon. i've been very cautious with my sizing for the last year but the more money i make the more degenerate i become. gonna take a step back and go on vacation after i close the rest of my position

>> No.20826799

Is there anything you hodl OP or do you solely trade? What are your long-term picks? What do you think of RSR?

>> No.20826914

>>20826799
yes, i have 21 btc that i won't touch for another year or two. the rest and biggest part of my money is in stablecoins until we either crash violently or i'm convinced that the golden bullrun started.
>What do you think of RSR?
it's very sad, i actually held 40 million rsr in it's early days, got underwater for a bit and then sold it for like $30k profit. that was when it was at $0.0025 meaning i missed the ship on this one.
i'm not too convinced in projects with huge ambitions though, if rsr succeeded it would be huge no doubt, but the odds for it happening are relatively low imo. same goes for many other coins out there, remember holochain? it's the same thing, would be huge, but probably won't

>> No.20826939

becareful anon, btc looks like its gonna break down 9.9/9.7k. ethbtc still looks good and if eth starts to outperform btc u might get raped anon

>> No.20826953

>>20826914
Anon what do you think of DMG?
Also what will convince you that the Golden Bullrun started? I cashed out all my money at a big profit and now I am waiting to get back in again after a big crash but I don't want to miss out on the golden run...

>> No.20827006

>>20826939
no i'm actually hoping it crashes, i'm shorting more than $700k worth of shitcoins as hedge for my btc long. surely shitcoins will dump atleast as much as btc
>>20826953
don't know much about dmg. yeah same, a big crash would be juicy to get back into btc but i would never cash out fully cause btc has done crazy things in the past. i would be convinced after btc crossed previous all time high, dumps, and continues the uptrend

>> No.20827039

>>20825374
Thank you. How do you manage your PnL? Excel is too tiring.

>> No.20827058

>>20827006
Anon what would be a big crash you think? I bought ETH at 200$ and cashed out at 240$. 20% profit more than I would ever have made in a bank. Can't believe it went upto 320 after. Shit's crazy. I thought it would break down once it came out that ETH 2.0 wasn't gonna happen this year. Not gonna lie, feeling massive FOMO right now.

>> No.20827076

>>20827039
Buddy if you don’t have the patience for excel just quit.

>> No.20827130

>>20827076
Is there not an app that we can use other than Excel? All my excitement goes down the drain whenever I journal my trades in Excel. I'm looking for better alternatives as an oldfag.

>> No.20827145

>>20827039
what do you mean by managing pnl? for taxes? i use excel for that
>>20827058
i got some good advice for that, never buy or sell fully. don't go all in or all out in these situations, what if eth goes to 10k now? atleast keep 10% of your stack in there when you're selling.
i'm expecting btc to crash to atleast 9k at some point, wouldn*'t be the big one i'm hoping for but yeah, anywhere between 9k and 5k is where i'm placing my spot buy orders

>> No.20827200

>>20827145
No, I meant for journalling trades, profits, losses. But yeah, well, seems like I'm stuck with Excel.

>> No.20827217

>>20827200
edgewonk

>> No.20827253

>>20827217
Thank you, hope this makes things more efficient for me.

>> No.20827271

>>20827145
>i got some good advice for that, never buy or sell fully. don't go all in or all out in these situations, what if eth goes to 10k now? atleast keep 10% of your stack in there when you're selling
Thanks anon. I will keep that in mind from now on.

>i'm expecting btc to crash to atleast 9k at some point, wouldn*'t be the big one i'm hoping for but yeah, anywhere between 9k and 5k is where i'm placing my spot buy orders
I am on the lookout for that too. Currently I am planning on investing 33% of my investing money into BTC, ETH and LINK respectively when they dump enough. Then I will hold until profit. I don't have enough market knowledge to do crazy longs and shorts like you do. I just can't tell where the market will go from here. I was expecting a huge dump because of 2nd wave Corona concerns, all the money printing, the BLM protests and rental home crisis in the US but it somehow pumped. Everything has become too unpredictable for me so I am just gonna sit on the sidelines for a while.

>> No.20827275

>>20826914
Thanks your your take anon.

>> No.20827289

>>20827200
you can see your pnl for each trade, as well as trading fees you paid and overall pnl for each trade on the exchange so i don't feel like having to make any journal apart form that. i also know what i initially depositet to the exchange and have only been withdrawing since then. the exchange is basically your journal

>> No.20827304

>>20824787

> The Absolute state of /biz

Implying this isn't an advert for the website in question.

You can literally generate these screenshots by editing the HTML of the page.

>> No.20827323

19yo got my hands on 200k American dollars but zero clue. What do anon? I have read into this site first a lot but the information is so contradictory for newbots...

>> No.20827336

>>20827130
Cointracking.io does the taxes for you. Gets the data either straight via api from the exchange or can be uploaded via excel if you need to make adjustments. Costs a bit of money but saved me uniro ideally hundreds of hours of manual work.

>> No.20827352

I lost everything investing in 0x BTC

>> No.20827363

>>20827352
Based on my research that was a shitcoin.

>> No.20827379

>>20827304
who cares about if i'm using ftx or other exchanges? i've been doing these threads showing my binance PnL until half a year ago when i switched to ftx. i've also been doing a lot on bitmex and bybit.
your position liq. price and PnL get updated by the second and it would be autistic as fuck to edit those to make your liq. price, break-even price , PnL and everything make sense

>> No.20827382

>>20827352
How much munny?

>> No.20827450

>>20827323
200k is good since you won't feel desperate to take big risks like poorfriends. don't search for useful information on /biz/, just come here for shitposting or bragging about your profits.
if you're not gonna put thousand of hours into learning how to actively trade, just allocate your money into safe bets like btc and eth, maybe a risky 10% into some shitcoin you fall in love with. if you're a total noob google what's DCAing and do it from time to time, don't put all your money into the market now, it could crash any day. good luck and you're gonna make it if you do all that

>> No.20827451

>>20827323
Buy a fat bag of DMG

>> No.20827483

>>20827323
also, you're gonna notice people making million left and right every day. you'll see shitcoins doing 100x within weeks. don't let this get to you. there's new opportunities every day, never feel the need to do something because you might miss out. often times it's the best thing to not do anything, especially when you're not feeling 100% confident about what you're doing

>> No.20827633

>>20827450
> Desperate
Nah, I am cool
> Safe bets
Noted
> Trading
I am willing to learn that.

>>20827483
> Chase bets
A lot of people here just gamble without much knowledge or greater strategy. Without bull market they are going to get rekt

Thank you

>> No.20827807

>>20824812
what website is that faggot

>> No.20827861

How much leverage are you using? How much excess margin do you have percentage wise to fluctuate price movements? Did you cost average into your Shitcoin short and BTC long or was it more a one time buy after various signals?

Thanks

>> No.20827875

>>20827861
to withstand fluctuations and price movements*

>> No.20827964

>>20827807
google "ampl-perp" brainlet
>>20827861
i'm using cross-leverage cause i can't get liquidated anyways. right now i'm at about 5x leverage if you count all my positions together. but since i'm shorting and longing at the same time, only way i lose money is btc crabbing and another alt season happening.
yeah, i always ladder orders into my positions, bit by bit. i exited 80% after the big btc pump on monday, and re-entered a day later after shitcoins bounced again. gonna keep managing the positions every time we get some bigger moves

>> No.20828018

>>20827861
oh yeah and ampl is an exception because it was a freebie. i usually don't enter positions without being hedged, but this one was obvious. the only other 3 times i ever did that was shorting matic and shorting bsv like half a year ago aswell as shorting dogecoin this month during the tiktok pump

>> No.20828038

Based op.

Short shitcoins versus btc long is smart. Might do that as well. Only downside is losing potential gains when everything flies.

Also hard for me to say goodbye to my LINK long. What is your opinion on holding LINK? And what is the secret to good timing (more important on shorts than holding)

>> No.20828099

>>20827807

https://ftx.com/#a=KanyeWest

>> No.20828105
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20828105

>>20824787
you holding Tendies too OP?

>> No.20828116

>>20827964

I guess, if you will, how much money in total are you using for your positions? I turned 2400 into almost 60K in just under 6 months strictly just taking long positions on a single ticker. I could be at closer to 85K but I made some mistakes along the way. Regardless do you have sources or advice to better manage my positions? I need to start hedging as well. Your method makes a lot of sense, I saw the last thread you made. I've been using 10x perps but only about 15% max of my margin. I feel like once I hit 100K I can play it safe and easily siphon off $1000 daily.


BTC pumps, shit coins dump, BTC dumps shit coins dump harder.

What if I was doing short and long the same ticker but on different accounts? Is that a viable strategy?

Thanks

>> No.20828132

>>20828038

This - would like to hear thoughts on day trading LINK. I finally decided to start selling caps and buying dips yesterday and made $500. I know that's not impressive but I'm a newb and that's a lot of money for me for just clicking buttons on a screen.

It seems like it's going to swing between 6.75 and 7.9 for the next month, trying to buy/sell twice a day. Does this sound likea good strategy?

>> No.20828143

>>20828018
yea shorting specific shit coins seems like a recipe for disaster if you aren't hedged. They don't follow logical reasoning and will pump 300% for no reason all the sudden but I suppose if you caught it after a parabolic run maybe. Idk enough about ampl to take a position either way

>> No.20828162

>>20828038
>Only downside is losing potential gains when everything flies
right, but i never know if everything is gonna fly so i neither wanna be bullish or bearish, got rekt often enough by being biased towards one direction in 2018.
>opinion on holding LINK?
definitely based. right now there's a fud campaign going on against link and they didn't even get it below $7 which only shows once again that linkers are gonna make it. i got rekt every time i was margin trading link. i had 50k link on binance and lost them during the september 2019 crash going long with 2x lev on binance.
>>20828038
timing the markets get easier the more experience you have, just slowly add to your positions, use small size, if your timing is right you make some profit, if it's wrong, you add more. be patient, don't add too much, always expect the opposite of what you're thinking to happen

>> No.20828241

Thanks for all the info Anon, you are really helping me make some connections. Can you please keep updating/making these threads ever few days?

>> No.20828331

>>20827450
>if you're not gonna put thousand of hours into learning how to actively trade
As someone who has put in the hours and trades pretty much everything except commodities I can tell you that there is really no predictable system for actively trading cryptos apart from the obvious shorts like AMPL for example or the safe longs like when something dumps 30% in a day.

The only other system that might work is what you are doing now, i.e. longing btc and shorting shitcoins. Of course, it would have to be a basket of shitcoins or else you can get completely rekt.

I also don't understand what you mean by hedging positions, do you mean exactly what you are doing now, shorting shitcoins and longing btc, or do you mean hedging in the sense that you would long and short the same coin. Wtf would even be the point of doing that, except for catching favorable funding rates?

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>>20828132
>thoughts on day trading LINK
i find link to be very unpredictable. the way i would go for it is trading link/btc pair in small increments on spot market. sell a little bit if it goes up (only 5%-10% max) buy back when it dumps. only sell tiny sizes cause you might be priced out. no need to fomo back in if it pumps cause it's never wrong to hold some btc.
>>20828116
your strategy is good, just a bit risky if you made that much % gain. try to drastically decrease your risk, you don't wanna be back at 2.4k. it's fine do trade like a degenerate with a 5k stack but now you gotta switch it up if you wanna be part of the bigger fishes.
>BTC pumps, shit coins dump, BTC dumps shit coins dump harder
not: this is only true when btc has big moves. shitcoins moon like crazy when btc is stalling. right now, i expect a whole lost more volatility soon. imo we're somewhere at the 2 arrows in pic related right now

>> No.20828412

>>20828359
i meant we're at either of the 2 arrows
>>20828331
this guy is right. that's why it's the best strategy imo to hold a ton of usd to be able to capitalise on opportunities without already being caught up in some other trade

>> No.20828424

anon can u explain why you use cross? whats the difference between 100x on isolated vs 100x isolated on cross? stop loss is the same as well. I know the cross uses ur entire account as collateral while isolated u know how much your gonna lose. But why usecross if ur stop is the same anyway?

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20828458

>>20828331
no, i meant hedging against movements of the whole market, not the same ticker, and yes, it's a basket of shitcoins, pic related (they even call it shit kek)

>> No.20828473

>>20828359
Thanks for the thread anon. I've only made 5k off of crypto and seeing threads like this really helps to put me back in my place. I need to learn more.

>> No.20828478

>>20828412
>that's why it's the best strategy imo to hold a ton of usd to be able to capitalise on opportunities without already being caught up in some other trade
Yeah exactly, extreme moves is when the money is made.

>>20828458
Lmao, is this on ftx? I have to make an account there. Thanks for the tip

>> No.20828485

>>20828359

So you basically you aren't sure of the direction at all but are positive we will be seeing an incredibly large move soon.

Yes my risk tolerance is high. What would you suggest to I be using per contract instead of 15%? I'm incredibly patient has been my boon but I have a mental block that stops me from taking profit after runs. I need to just set a limit sell for a least a portion of the contract and forget about it or something.

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>>20828478
>inb4 i'm being paid by ftx to advertise
ftx is the best thing that has happened to me hands down anon

>> No.20828511

>>20824787
are the rebases taken accounted for?

>> No.20828558

>>20828424
Cross deleverages you depending on the trend and pushes back your liquidation prices thus reducing your loss even at the same stop. I'm not saying it is better but

>> No.20828658

>>20828485
use 5% max. use 1% if you wanna do it like the professionals.
> mental block that stops me from taking profit after runs. I need to just set a limit sell for a least a portion of the contract and forget about it or something
that's out of the ordinary and not a bad thing. usually, human psychology makes them take their profits too quickly and cut their losses too late. for the normal person it's not easy to stop their losers and let their winners run. just take 30%-50% out with a limit order, set a stop loss in profit and let it run. prepare it all beforehand. you shouldn't be thinking about managing a position too much anyways. just stick to your plan and let it play out. that's another advantage of lowering your risk: you'll finally have a good night sleep again

>> No.20828737

>>20828424
>whats the difference between 100x on isolated vs 100x isolated on cross?
there's none, you're losing all you money within minutes on both. like >>20828558 said, i could be liquidated if i'm using fixed leverage and we get a strong move in either direction. thanks to cross, the profits from my long are automatically used as collateral for my short and vice versa

>> No.20828829

>>20824787
>>20824812
Anon teach me your ways ;_; I would had become a Chad too if I only learned how many options there are in crypto. I had no idea you could short altcoins like AMPL.
https://pastebin.com/ZsgW6cfe

>> No.20828966

>>20827379
Any advice when trading 100x on Bitmex? wait to ride the bart/keep your position automatically 200$ away from the market price through a bot?
How rabid are the hunters who try to murder the 100x longs/shorts?

Also I found Bitmex to be the most counter-intuitive exchange I ever had to deal with, unlike Poloniex which feels more professional than Bittrex.

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20828989

>>20828829
Easy. Buy pnk

>> No.20829089

>>20828966
>Any advice when trading 100x on Bitmex?
yes, forget about investing/trading, if you can't refrain from depositing more money into your account after blowing it, atleast make it a lunch money deposit. what you're doing is highly addictive and never profitable

>> No.20829092

lizfag the poor fag

>> No.20829134

>>20828966
>Also I found Bitmex to be the most counter-intuitive exchange I ever had to deal with
bitmex is garbage, they have the highest slippage and longest "trade engine overload" on every big move, use bybit if you like high leverage futures trading

>> No.20829200

>>20828737

This seems superior as it lets you withstand unpredictable barts that are stop hunts from whales If your gains from one contract balances the other in your hedge play. Since you are hedging do you even place stop losses or just manually decide to call it quits on a position? It seems like you wouldn't even want stop losses as that point.

Is 10x leverage too high for you? I won't go past it and would prefer closer to 7x but I'm unable.

>> No.20829277

>>20824865
>longing almost $700k worth of btc
What leverage? Where do you get liquidated?
I also believe the next post-halving bullrun is here, but aren't you wary of the 9500 gap?
It might fill before proceeding with the bullrun.
Or is that a minor blip you don't care about?

>> No.20829300

>>20829200
no i'm not using stops just like you said. i used a stop on the ampl short but not on my hedged positions.
>would prefer closer to 7x but I'm unable
i don't know man, you've already been doing so fine, i would honestly take a step back and get my head straight if i was you. take a break for a week and come back with a clear mindset. i'm doing this regulary, just been on a 10 day vacation until a week ago.

>> No.20829341

>>20829300
Do you do trading full time?
Also is it a stupid idea to long link without trading at all? I want to focus on my career.

>> No.20829362

>>20827964
>only way I can lose money is btc crabbing

That’s exactly why It crabs anon, you aren’t the only who thought of this.

T. Person who got wrecked last year using the same strategy when btc crabbed

>> No.20829367

>>20829277
i won't get liq'd read this
>>20827006
>>20827964
>>20829277
>Or is that a minor blip you don't care about?
i would care about that, hate speculating on the direction of the market. it would be stressful to trade such a size without being hedged but i'm confident that i will make profit either way because shitcoins are overbought right now and btc is preparing for it's next move (up or down- don't know)

>> No.20829469

>>20829362
really, when did you get wrecked last year? we've been consolidating at the same level for 3 months now and we already had an alt season. i'm pretty sure i started doing this strategy at just the right time. already up $80k from my btc long and my shitcoin short together. if btc doesn't move for another 3 days, i'm rethinking my position. for now it looks very good imo.
also, there's still too much new money in altcoins that hasn't been rekt yet. they still think we're having a 2018 type altseason
>>20829341
yes that would be stupid, buy as much link as you can on spot markets, don't margin trade. store your link on a hardware wallet if we're talking more than $10k, focus on your carrer. you're doing it right, most people get fucked trying to trade

>> No.20829529

>>20829469
I am avoiding option trading because I'm afraid if I fuck up, I have some kind of debt. Also want to focus on my career and stacked up on link like >>20829341
How did you start and weren't you pissing yourself with the first few leveraged trades?

>> No.20829597

>>20829300
>just been on a 10 day vacation until a week ago.
What do you recommend when you're on vacation?

I was thinking of getting a Nokia Lumia phone because it has windows on it, so it should be compatible with decentralized exchanges and many other windows-optimized things.
Was also thinking of a notebook, tablet, laptop something, even borrowing one for a short time frame.

>> No.20829621

>>20829300

Thanks for your advice. As my trading portfolio grows it gets a bit easier to profit but as you said I do need to alter my strategy a bit when I'm working with more money in general. Yes its amazing how much of trading is emotional or psychological. Almost harder aspect to deal with than finding the right set ups and plays.

>> No.20829764

>>20829529
that's right, focus on your career, listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvmSTyLeC4o&feature=emb_title
stack some link, maybe some btc and eth, you'll get better returns than any other speculative investment over the coming years.
i started in early 2017, discoveres margin trading in late 2017, went all in long (all in was 3x leverage, no bitmex) on every pump like the absolute degenerate i was, it always worked out, i was the trading god in person, up $1.5m, more than a million dollars on bitfinex alone, still went long at the top, bear market hit me in full degen mode, i wiped my whole bitfinex account (cashed out $200k beforehand atleast)
i bought every dip, went long all the time, got rekt throughout 2018. made hundreds of thousands on some shitcoins, lost it all again trying to margin trade, decided i have to learn how to trade, put 10 hours a day into it, still sucked ass a year after because of poor risk management, learned proper risk management, became better, started making consistent profits in late 2019. luckily never blew all my money, always had something left from that $1.5 i once had. but at some point in 2019 i only had $30k left which was my lowest point. imo if you don't plan on dedicating your whole life to this you shouldn't start and just invest&hold

>> No.20829876

didnt read everything, but OP thanks for taking the time to respond. You added serious value. Im a trader by profession (optiver) but having a hard time making money at home without their infrastructure and volume. Great insights

>> No.20829935

>>20829597
i used my ipad to swing in and out of dogecoin shorts during my vacation. i even made a thread about it here: >>/biz/thread/S20283655 i wouldn't go that deep into it to trade on some decentralised exchange with my windows phone during vacation, but if you want to, go ahead. there's no right or wrong way to do it. i just wanted to put as few effort as possible into it while chilling out but still make a little bit of money. we're always gonna be stuck in this mindset, even on vacation

>> No.20829941

>>20829764
Alright, thanks for the thorough answer, this is exactly why I endure the flatbrain sufferfest that is /biz. Tbh that sounds very stressful to go from 1.5m, aka boat money in my terms, back to 30k and up again. I was also lucky and got chainlink shilled before ICO and bought some back then. The thing is, I'm focusing on an academic career so not a lot of money is to be made even though what I do can earn me 6 figures easily in industry, i just cant cope with the level of retards and the amount of dickheads in normal companies. The dream of owning a proper 500m boat and fucking off while I'm still relatively young makes me think about options trading. If I find the time, I might build a some kind of trading system using my skill or sell myself for a lot of money

>> No.20830000

https://youtu.be/pP6_70EWwFw?t=4020

>> No.20830027

>>20829764
Any pointers on how to get started learning? Investopedia? YouTube videos? Thanks for the thread btw, I think you just sold me on dedicating myself to learning this, your results are crazy

>> No.20830161

>>20829876
i always wonder if you have to be a genius to be hired at an institution like that or if the engines do all the work for you. even if they do, am i right to assume that you have to work atleast a 50 hour week?
>>20830027
avoid youtube videos at all cost, with those videos being the only exception: https://www.youtube.com/c/MarketTradersTV/videos
most of it is probably learning by doing, get experience with very small amounts, you'll lose it anyways. read up on everything you wanna know on investopedia, you can start by reading a trading book if you want but they're only good for normie beginners. if i really sold you on starting to trade, i'm sorry in advance

>> No.20830186

>>20830000
That's the biggest waste I've seen.

>> No.20830211

>>20830186
still fun and everybody is paying, kek

>> No.20830218

>>20830161
oh shieet another mttv trader. have u taken the dope course?

>> No.20830259

>>20830161
Cheers my friend, I’ll take a look

>> No.20830261

>>20826914
What's it gonna take to convince you the golden run has begun?

>> No.20830280

>>20828829
Check out the move contracts . I used to profit shorting daily move everyday during crab market. Haven't traded in 2 months there. If you're trading perp contracts use these 4 indicators. MA/ema cross and KDJ if you're on phemex/bybit and ichimoku cloud and Awesome Oscillator if you're on ftx
Remember to always use trailing stop and take profit so that you can sleep peacefully. Never fomo (except real dildo hours, where you get in and get out quick. But leave that for now.)
Good luck
https://ftx.com/#a=KanyeWest

>> No.20830351

>>20830218
yes i've taken it in 2019, it's definitely not bad but the main reason i even bought it was because i made so much money off of these guys' advice that i wanted to pay them back somehow. the course wasn't a game changer for me but the generaly advice was a perfect addition to what i had learned until then, especially regarding risk management
>>20830261
i would be convinced after btc crossed previous all time high, dumps, and finds support, somewhere above 16k where distribution took place the last time

>> No.20830367

are you Caucasian?

>> No.20830382

>>20830367
yeah

>> No.20830452

Ampl-perp not available in burgerland?

>> No.20830582
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>>20830452
>freedom country
alright friends, i'll head out, hope i could help some of you by sharing my experiences. i like you guys, in a year when normies start pouring on this board in masses again, we will remember this time as the good old /biz/ days, when not everyone was retarded

>> No.20830668

>>20830582
Thanks friend. How can I find your previous thread? Someone please link. <3

>> No.20831001

>>20830351

which trader at mttv helped you most?

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>>20830668
this one >>/biz/thread/S20765301
>>20831001
muleskinner no doubt, he's from another world
bye guys, see you at 12k or 9k btc

>> No.20831210

>>20830382
based

>> No.20831303

>>20824812
interesting...how does this shorting actually work? did this exchange really already have it set up so that youd be paying out rebases? (and receiving negative rebases??)

>> No.20831399

>>20830161
50 definitely. Especially in the beginning.
Genius definitely not. The tests you just need to practice mental maths and bid/ask market making games and estimating numbers. And be normal.

Developers are top notch indeed. Too many indians tho. Hardware is top notch and we have massive volumes and good broker feeds.

The traders themselves vary from meh to good. Nothing special to be honest.

Pay is amazing. Exitopps not so much

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>>20824787
Oh no, that's just wrong!
The only thing you can do now is.. do.. donate some to charit... hHAAHAHA fuck that
Keep making it, some bastard on here has to become richer and richer damn it because it makes it funnier when people post "I AM FUCKING RUINED! WHY DID I BELEIVE YOU FUCKS"

>> No.20831858

>>20831135
bro i can never understand his fibbing

>> No.20832008

>>20827323

All-in BTC, do your research. The bull market has started and almost every proceeding month will be higher than the one before it.

>> No.20832139

>>20824787
Thoughts on STA, OP ?

>> No.20832951

>>20826914
Hey man, I asked some q’s in your last thread. Congrats on your gains, I hope to emulate you.

Now, I’m a fucking retard: can you please explain what you are doing on ftx? These aren’t futures are they? If you drop a burner email happy to compensate you for your shared knowledge.

>> No.20833468

>>20832951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ork3-puihX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v5dnHJ6LL8

>> No.20833997

>>20830452
Get a vpn fag

>> No.20834109

>>20833468
Thanks

>> No.20834387

>>20830161
What about videos on the Investor Trading Academy channel?