/biz/ - Business & Finance

FWTDHWAHQUD status-- {crying during a holocaust documentry}

Physically remove central bankers and communists.

When copypasting the OP, please remember to remove the "[embed]" otherwise they stack up.

What's everyone's thoughts on these?

I have 510 Asahi Cyberrounds.

What do?

>>20823817
Thank you for not being a newfag OP

>>20823821
Forgot to add image. What do you guys think about bars with this kind of tech in it?

>>20823831
I just ordered 50 of them off monument lol
You should sell them to me at 10 an oz
Dubs and you do it

Another late night dump, another instant recovery.

>>20823837
FUCK NO.why would i want a wifi bar?

Silverbros are we really having going to have 3 red days in a row ? A close under $24 will be bearish supposedly

ive got some old as shit low res pics for the /fit/izens if you want them

>>20823874
It had to happen eventually I guess. Just hope it holds this support.

>>20823837
removes one of the main benefits of stacking while providing very little upside. hard pass.

Does anyone stack pre 1980 copper coins for really small trades? Don't know if they will be useful but, I managed to stack about 2000 without any effort.

>>20823950
its easy to remove and get the bar recast / assayed without the chip. We get concerned when the chip becomes law....

>>20823837
Once they add the chip into the bar it's no longer .999+, somebody needs to sue

>>20823978
what happens to the law chips when someone accidentally put them in the microwave to bring back the bars shine?

>>20824036
nothing, the chip should survive being microwaved.

>>20823978
I wouldn't say it's "easy" to recast a bar compared to the ease of purchasing silver.

>>20823966
you sound like a glow nigger

>>20823863
>>20823950
>>20823985
Yeah it does seem gimmicky. At least they're trying to innovate to prevent counterfeits circulating

>>20823901
classic /fit/ and /pmg/? fuuuuarrrk this is sick thread!

>>20824056
yea your right melting it back down into a bar without any info on it basically makes it "junk" silver. I am just so used to having access to an assay lab I forget the general population doesnt.

>>20823779
what exactly happens when i buy XAG
i bought 300 XAG yesterday on a drunk head

25 oz silver, 1 oz gold.

Will I make it?

>>20824036
i am not sure its a great idea to put a big block of precious metal in a microwave.. than again there is a home smelting kit that uses microwaves so what do i know?

>>20824123
You need more silver mi gi

>>20824122
beats me but I have that on my blockfolio to track how much physical I own and the price is monstrously laggy all the time. I think it was still showing $23.50 back when silver was cracking $25.00 for the first time.

>>20824123
you won't starve

>>20823779
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/29/cramer-bemoans-talk-of-a-fed-induced-market-bubble-im-sick-and-tired.html
>You should sell your precious metals, goy! Don't worry I'll buy them off of you before they make you into a right-wing extremist :^]

pee pee poo poo i like slv pee pee poo poo

Should I sell my revolver for $700 and use that money to buy silver?

>>20823837
The chips would be perfect for billionaires who are having their gold transported overseas for vaulting or for tracking and verifying industrial shipments of PMs. Unless you're in one of the above scenarios, avoid chipped gold and chipped silver like the plague.

>>20823831
Whatever you do, do not open the tubes. Those are highly collectable.

>>20824280
based

>>20824251
>Should I sell a gun that is perfect in every way?
No, you should buy a friend for it. https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1894/model-1894-csbl

>>20824090
lmao i havent seen that greentext before. i cant remember the last time i was on /fit/ im a fat bitch now. my work keeps me strong but i should cut and do some cardio.

They smashed down the price over night again it’s like clockwork

>>20824163
isnt it basically Spot silver price?

>>20824328
Are you sure? I have a lot of guns already I feel like the window to buy silver at a somewhat reasonable price is running out

>>20824280
How will you know that actual silver is in the tubes if you don't open them?

>>20824377
Calls on SLV or ngmi

>>20824280
is this a joke? mounting tape is not a valid security feature lmao

Oh no silver chads we got too confident.

>>20824377
Silver could also crab for a while, or touch $22, even $20 before it goes up again. You can't even buy a gun in most places right now though, so factor that into your decision. Personally, I'd stack cash and wait until a breakout.

>>20824391
Use your third eye?

>>20824456
It’s the over night smack down happens every day at this point, low volume massive shorts dumped on the market to keep it suppressed

>>20824456
if only it keeps from poomping until i get my next paycheck

problem is, check the dealers.
(((spot price))) is doomping but (((premiums))) are pooming just as much and then some

problem is, check the dealers.
(((spot price))) is doomping while (((premiums))) are poomping just as much and then some

>>20823966
Ah yes, glad you asked. 1982 is 50/50 zinc and copper pennies and 1981 and older is 95% copper, I stack them because I think the penny will be demonetized soon, and each copper penny is worth about 1.8x face, not much but I find it worth it to keep them, at the end of the day I'd rather hold 100 copper pennies then a fiat piece of paper ((((worth)))) $1, I do stack PMs but copper is a fun way to diversify for basically no cost and all profit

>>20823966
1981s are 90% copper too
>t. I have a small collection
Just do it on the side when I'm looking for 1964 quarters
Kills me how I can find five 1965 quarters easily but not a single 1964. Those 1965 ones give me such a heart attack every time

ID = bPU148oL ,glows

>>20824328
>https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1894/model-1894-csbl
Holy shit I fucking want one

>>20824562
>1982 is 50/50 zinc and copper pennies
he means that half of them are zinc and the other half of them are 95% copper u need to weight the 1982 penys

>>20824567
>Kills me how I can find five 1965
this its such a let down being one year off

I hope no one here has anything to do with Pacific Booker Minerals Ltd, they just got fucked. One of their office boys accidentally let their main properties mineral claims located near the Babine Lake to lapse.....
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/iiroc-trading-halt-bkm-878342880.html
https://www.pacificbooker.com/
Big F in the chat these idiots.

>>20824562
And of course I get the copper colored ID, seems fitting

>>20824567
I used to coin roll hunt but the silver runs so dry for me now that its not even worth the time, I have occasionally found some junk silver, but honestly 1-2x a year in change if I'm lucky

>>20824570
fucking kek

>>20824605
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>>20824567
Quarters are the hardest coin to hunt for silver in, since they circulate the most. Try looking through dimes or halves. You'd probably even have better odds of finding War Nickels than you would silver quarters.

>>20824622
>>20824611
two dubs in a row ,he is here

also ID = bPU148oL ,still glows

>>20824625
good tip,thanks anon

>>20824600
Yep, also, if you want to make a couple extra dollars, save the wheat pennies in rolls, they usually sell for $2-3 a roll if you can find a buyer, not much but its better then a normal copper penny

>>20824649
>also ID = bPU148oL ,still glows
first time i've ever been called a glowie, may i ask why?

so besides him(you know who) the crpyto,shils ,jews and now the glowing,what group do you think will show up next?

>>20824692
i've been here for months though. i'm working on filling up my philly monster box. posted my stack a couple threads ago

I've been looking into buying silver and honestly the shit is rip off and jsut not worth it. The spot price is $24 and yet all of these god damn brokers are charging $35 for an ounce (ex: silver eagles). you're either going to have to hold for a long time to get your value back, or shit is going to have to hit the fan really hard for it to be worth it.

And not to mention that we aren't even at a ten year high price and for the last eight years the shit has been like $14 an ounce so basically it's a fifty fifty shot with one outcome being that you lose half your money and the other outcome being that It's going to take a lot for you to break even. I'd just rather keep my shit in index funds and mutuals like I have been and ride the shit out.

>>20824783
the spot price is a jewish lie, there is only one price and that is the market price

>>20823805

>>20824796
I'm having trouble finding a broker who offers honest prices.

>>20824783
PMs are a hedge NOT investments.

>>20824807
Well I'm having trouble finding a way to get my hands on the shit without paying 35$ an ounce. Is that a better way to say it? I'm not looking for an investment, I'm looking to hedge, but I'm not looking to lose half of my hedges value either.

>>20824783

If you want to understand the difference between the spot price and the physical price, watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y4

Buy mining stocks or the Sprott Trust on the stock market if you don't want to pay the premium for physical.

>>20824783
Noted, you can go back to /smg/ now

>>20824783
>>20824783
cool dont buy it nice blog fuck off. Lurk until you are willing to sell your grandmothers left tit to buy more, reread past threads if you're in a hurry, but it will happen.

>>20824562
A fun thing to do, is drop a 1982+ penny in some hydrochloric acid. After a while, all that will be left are the two copper faces! Just be careful, the reaction releases hydrogen gas.

>>20824829
I will admit I am inexperienced but I think that "buying" silver and not having it physical, in your hand is one of the dumbest things you can do.

Mining stocks might be a good alternative.

>>20824783
i DCA'd up from $18 to $24, my stack was 340 toz last week and it still is 340 toz right now. you could wait and see if prices will go down but you'll have no hedge/insurance until that happens, and it might not. that's a risk. i'm personally fine paying a premium, if you will, to remove that risk

>>20824840
I'd be willing to buy it if I could find a motherfucker that wasn't charging 30% over market price. I was ready to drop two grand today until I realized all these motherfuckers are charging $35 an ounce.

>>20824850
>>20824562
Forgot to mention: you have to open the edges up with a file before you throw them in the HCl.

>>20824827
I buy PMs knowing that these are assets I will be sitting on for a very long time. If shit hits the fan then so be it, I come out of it with something.

>>20823874
They can make spot price go to one dollar of they want to. It's not real.

>>20824889
ASEs always have higher premiums than most, you can look into generic rounds and see if they fit your budget
Other anons also mentioned estate sales and ebay but that takes a bit more effort to get anything

>>20824899
based and checked

REMINDER

>>20824797
BASEEDD

>>20824859

On the basis of historic precedent, mining stocks are an excellent way to diversify. They were not confiscated, for example, during the Great Depression; and so those who held Homestake Mining, the ancestor of Barrick Gold, made 500% on their investment.

Peter Schiff, along with everybody else who is trustworthy in the PM community advocates for mining stocks. The only exception I know is RoadtoRoota; but he has some extreme views and mental health problems.

Mining stocks offer 3x leverage to the underlying metal. SILJ, for example, is up 180% since March, but silver is only up 75%.

The best ETFs for buying mining stocks are GDX, GDXJ; SIL, SILJ.

>>20824783

>>20824946
How much are my mining stocks going to go up in a year? I hold Mux, Aurcana and great panther

>>20824827
Assuming you mean USD, you should be able to get generic rounds/bars around 28/oz right now. And that's the price during a demand surge. I don't know where you're looking that you can't get something below 35, unless you're actually retarded and won't stack anything but ASEs.

>>20824057
>Sort through old pennies and keep the old ones with copper for tiny trades
>glow nigger

wat

>>20824899

>They can make spot price go to one dollar of they want to.

Temporarily they can, because there are hundreds of shares of SLV to each physical ounce; but they would be wiped out in one COMEX delivery month if they did so. Anybody who watches Hemke in this video will understand that the price of silver is going higher. >>20824829 The "slams" are intended to make people panic, and kill the momentum in the short-term. After Powell's announcements, silver was going up in a straight line, and would have soon got past $30 if they had not taken action to slow its ascent.

>>20824997
he's just trolling

>>20823831
insanely based btw

>>20824997
the way you worded it made it sould like glownigger baiting to see if anyone is melting,I DO NOT MELT PENNYS, NO ONE IN THIS THREAD MELTS PENNYS

My Reichsmarks arrived today lads. Ordered 10 but they fucked up and sent me 11.

Is there a reason silver has jacked up premiums? Don't own either gold or silver but these premiums are really turning me off. Seems to vary from website to website but even the "better deal" websites have a high premium.

Eg. JM Bullion with a premium of 25% to 50% depending on the coin of choice, or at least the ones I've seen. Higher on AP Mex or little variety on another.

>>20825069
based where did you get them?

>>20825047
jesus. you think the feds are monitoring a laundry detergent discussion board looking to v& penny melters?
take your pills

>>20825072
people need money

>>20825072
>is there a reason silber has jacked-up premiums?
Yes.

>>20825072
premiums doesn't real

ID = bPU148oL glows,filter him

>ID = bPU148oL glows,filter him

>>20825047
Why would anyone melt pennies? The gas required to melt them would eat up most of your profits. Besides, they're better as pennies since they're already stamped as bullion and are easier to verify and more divisible than a copper bar.

>XAG/USD -3.37%

Welp I am going to bed but before I did I put an order in for 500 shares of NRGOF
With me luck /pmg/

>>20825072
1. Price moves are more volatile right now, premium is to have a buffer for the dealer in case price dips sharply
Let's say the dealer cleared out his stock and ordered in a box at 23. Suddenly JPM has a fit and spot drops to 20. If the dealer's premium was 2 bucks he'd be making a loss of 1 on every sale, but not if the premium was 4 bucks

2. Higher trading volume nowadays because we're finally getting into a bull market, might as well raise premiums since price elasticity just dropped and there will still be suckers out there like us who'd still buy them

>>20824605
Sheeit negro, all you had to do was go to their website.

Instant smell signal.

>>20824990
Went ahead and got generic 35 oz.

>>20825258
yea thats a real bad sign, i was digging around and you can tell no ones given a fuck about the company in ages.

>>20824605
>Junior miners can't into paperwork
Invest in SILJ brehs, it's way less risky than SLV brehs.

>>20823874
So what? You can sell right now on eBay for $35. The spot price disconnected from reality when the CoronaMeme started.
>>20824251
No
>>20824783
Think of "Spot Price" as "Jewish Trickery Price", don't sell metal to a dealer who offers you that price because he's a part of the problem.
>>20824807
And yet I'm 50% up on my gold and silver in less than a year. They are an investment if you time the market, otherwise yeah.

>>20825314

SILJ is mid-tiers. There is no ETF for small-caps.

>>20825314
by the sounds of what one of my work mates is telling me through facebook, the company tried to defer claims payments though a covid19 setup, but something went wrong and all the claims lapsed and no one noticed or knew for two days. Some random guy from Smithers BC bought the whole claim package for $2500 through the government website.

>>20825258
>flash
wow thats old

What would you guys do, buy a 1kg silver today or save up for a 1oz gold round. Currently got 100oz silver and 1oz gold

>>20825389
Depends where are you from and what is your country silver taxation system.

>>20824827
https://monumentmetals.com/ has ounces for under $30
I just got 5 bars for $28 each

Who else excited for a new buy opportunity?

>>20825366
Yeah I'm sure they got a fat lot of interest on that $2500 playing around with shuffling their payments about.

>>20825513
I keep thinking about the dude who fucked up, imagine realizing the millions of dollars your company put into a major project was all lost because someone went cheap on claim fees.

>>20825455
Ready like a sniper on a rooftop over here

>The silver flash dumps didn't work
>So they try to slow dump it

FUCK JPMorgan

>>20825455
I dunno what you're talking about. Price of physical ignored the Jew Price a while ago.

>>20825455
Is it gonna drop further?

>>20825641
this

>>20825219
>NRGOF
What attracts you to NGORF?

>>20823837
put it through a fat magnet and see if that bitch still works

>>20823837

>>20825803
based

>bar says .999+ fine silver
>+

So its not .999 or .9999 so what the fuck does the + mean then? Why not just mark it as .9995 or w/e it is or just choose to make it in .999 or .9999 instead?

>>20823863
>>20825803
Tempted to buy it just to rustle some jimmies...

>>20825839
You can justify selling it for slightly more if it says .999+ instead of .999. It's not listed as .9993 or .9995 or whatever because that would make some idiots think it's less pure than regular .999.

>>20825839
Autism, nothing in this world is pure. There are microscopic things sealed inside every single casted metal.

>>20826011
>that would make some idiots think it's less pure than regular .999.
a pretty big point when silver is marketed almost entirely to the less intellectually blessed demographics.

>>20825839
Holdover from physics and chemistry spheres, where purity absolutely matters and to get those kinds of significant figures requires additional manufacturing or casting techniques.
But here its just marketing.

>20826183
>id: bog
Fukken filtered

She's holdin

should i go long on gold or silver?

>>20826428
yes

bump

ETA on hold miners stop crabbing?

>>20826748
*gold

>>20826748
they should crash along with the rest of the US stock market and global markets before EOY

>>20826782
Why would miners crash if the global market crashes? Sure they will tank initially but dont they go back up as people abandon their cash to something safer like metals? Why not just hold through the crash?

>>20824783
Some premium is to be expected but the IRL situation for a lot of commodities and especially silver is super fucked. In silver even companies that are willing to pay and have tons of connections like apmex have 4 to 6 week waits on orders and if you are a new costumer it's more like 12 to 16 weeks.

>>20826824
because people will be abandoning their cash for something safe like food or housing, not metals.

>>20826845
Initially but not forever.

>>20826856
yes, recessions all end eventually.

but miners are going to be fucked for years if our markets collapse and stay down. I don't know if they will, but the potential is still there.

>>20826845
>safer
>food or housing
>food rots away
>real estate market is too expensive for 70% of human population
Nigga, what?

how much the prices of gold and silver will be affected by todays us gdp report? germany release theirs, they are at -11%

>Spot price crashes
>everyone laughs at silver chads for being 'wrong'
>try to buy more to increase stack
>prices are even higher after crash

Being a silver chad is fucking suffering sometimes. It's like the whole world hates us. Is this how jesus felt?

>>20826878
they'll be paying their rent and buying groceries at best. Not investing because people without jobs don't invest.

>>20826887
most of dealer inventories are out of stock or on pre-order/pre-sale as well. silver could become fucking unobtainium while spot falls to $14 at this rate

>>20826887
damn, where do you live?

>>20826845
>>20826782
>>20826870

I do not agree with what you are saying.

https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/

GDP collapsed during the Great Depression, but gold and gold miners thrived. As was pointed out earlier, Homestake Mining, the ancestor of Barrick Gold, which is in the GDX, rose 500%. It rose 90% as the Dow was crashing 90% on its second leg down.

Money is necessary for civilization. If the fiat system collapses, we go back to gold. The world doesn't suddenly look like a Fallout game. All the production and manufacturing is still there. It simply means that America, which is a mere welfare-warfare state, will become poor, while formerly second- and third-world countries will become rich. Hence why Peter Schiff is so heavily invested in foreign stocks. No better time to own a gold mining company than under those circumstances.

>>20826926
Australian dollars

>>20826927
What miners do you like? All I have is 3100 aurcana corp. Want a few more.

>>20826927
>As was pointed out earlier,
I also pointed out that the great depression was immediately between world wars, and during both wars it was illegal to mine gold.

so yeah, miners did great in the US because they went from 0 to 100% and then right back to 0. Also it was illegal or impossible for US citizens to buy gold, so the situation was completely different.

now miners are going from 100% to potentially 0 and then back to 100. The exact opposite.

>>20827026
are you the anon the past week who has been shilling buying ETF's and SILV and all that

>>20826879
When is is published?

>>20827092
is it

>>20827078
nope

this past week I've been working. Also bought a new car the other day which took most of the day.

ETF's are silly imo, but miners probably have more risk atm. Might pay off big or might crash big. Hard to say.

>>20827092
3.5h, czechs, frenchies, spaniards and italians release theirs tomorrow + collective eurozone report also tomorrow

>>20827106
>bought a car
I bought 7 private islands and a dozen mansions

>>20827110
Thanks.

>>20827116
why do you find that unlikely? People buy cars, anon. Smart people buy cars during a recession.

>>20827116
I bought 3 aircraft carriers, 9 private jets, 13 private islands and a few dozen mansions. Feels good mane

>/biz/ aircraft carrier party soon

>>20827132
sorry anon, my mistake, its in 2.5h, not 3.5h

>>20827155
I bought a women who loves me for who I am

>>20827248
you bought a rapidly depreciating asset, gj

>>20827256
women aren't assets, or at least that's what the bank told me when I tried to borrow against mine.

>>20827273
Sounds like you need a better bank.

>>20827297
or a better woman

>>20827273
What about soft and frail twinks? Their short self live between 18-25 makes them very valuable

>>20827143
why do you find that unlikely? People buy private islands and mansions, anon. Smart people buy private islands and mansions during a recession.

>>20827311
seems pretty gay
>>20827316
I've posted proof of wealth here before. A new car is one of the cheaper things I own. My house is a mansion by your standards, and while I don't own any islands I do have a couple timeshares including one on an island you certainly can't afford to visit.

no aircraft carriers though.

>>20827155
>Only has 9 jets across 3 aircraft carriers
NGMI

>>20827492
that's all I could afford, don't bully

none of the companies I've found who still have bars ship to the uk, fuck me I guess

>>20827497
Should've bought only one carrier, then use the remaining cash to buy Pepsi to trade with Russia for an entire fleet baka

>>20827532
that's a based story, but russia is nowhere near collapse like USSR was

>>20827545
Ok fine, buy Coca Cola to trade with the USN

>>20827400
I've posted proof of wealth here before. A new private island and mansion is one of the cheaper things I own. My mansion is a country by your standards, and while I don't own any cars I do have a couple timeshares including one on an island with exotic cars in a parking lot you certainly can't afford to drive.

no aircraft carriers though.

I cant wait to buy at the next dip.
Looking at some of what other anons ponder out....

Historically the first high isn't the peak, but there is a quality dip just before the full moon.

Looks like we are headed for a bowel.

Anons,not that I want to sell any serious amount of sipver, but it sure would help at even a $100 silver high. Trade in to expand into gold. That kind of ratio though isn't where you make the trade of course though.

Guys I bought the dip on gold and silver in March. Huge unrealized gains but in IAU and SLV. What are my options for getting to physical with minimal realized gains?

>>20827823
Historically we didn't had paper silver that's 8 times bigger than the physical supply.

>>20827511
Atkinson's Bullion is the best dealer for the UK market I'd say.

>>20826887
In UK cheapest Britannias are $38 right now.
ASE are sold for $49!!!

>>20827826
Cash out a portion and buy stuff with the lowest premium you can find. 1kg/100oz bars if you don't mind slightly lower liquidity

>>20827826
>What are my options for getting to physical with minimal realized gains?
I don't think that sentence means what you think it means.
The most straightforward way would be to sell a block of them to purchase futures contracts since the futures prices are trading below spot. Another could be to shift gains into ETFs that allow for trading in shares for the physical metal. AAAU or certain gold trusts. But you'll have to do calculations about shipping and insurance costs. Generally cheaper per oz with more metal. I don't know if such a vehicle exists with silver.

>>20827924
Damn, thats insane.

>>20827826
Can't you just demand silver to be delivered?

>>20827872
You're saying that due to paper being at an all time inflation & that wr had paper backed by silver....so...this historical dip very well may never come given so fee hold silver today.

Let me know if that makes sense anon.

>>20827943
So I have to take profit? I was planning on moving to Puerto Rico next year and cashing out to not pay capital gains but not sure about how safe IAU or SLV is if shit really blows up.

>anudda 42 ounces of silver coming next month.

Nice.

>>20828011
Not that anon, but why on earth are you trying to move to an island that has historicly faced supply chain issues from the U.S & is overpopulated past their capacity to survive in the site of a financial & world trade colapse.

That island can't feed itself even among neighboring trade. If/when colapse happens your .only won't mean a thing to them.

>>20828011
Fiat is still liquidity. Part of the autism in this general about SLV is that its all paper and can't be traded for the metal. Not sure about IAU or its prospectus.
Otherwise you have to sit tight. If you really need the metal now, taking profit to dump into futures would be your best option. Just compare the futures prices now with your local or online spot prices. It might be several dollars an ounce.

>>20828011
you understand that Puerto Rico is part of the US and has the same tax laws, right?

>>20827982
What's the redemption minimum?

>>20828070
>>20828050
If you spend 183 days in P.R. you don't pay cap gains, even federal.

>>20828051
I don't need it but I don't want my position dissolved either if there's extreme movements.

Should I get 0.294 oz of gold with 3 1912 Austrian Corona restrikes or get 22 oz of silver? 2 scottsdale bars and 2 loose 1 oz rounds by them

Both about the same price. $630

>>20828114
PR has to be reallly shit if people aren't flooding there to take advantage of that

I think we all just need to accept a downsize in the quantity we can stack. Cheap silver stacking seems like it's gone forever. I used to buy a kilo a month, now I'm looking at maybe ten ounce bars and a few coins instead of a whole tube of coins. Sad but this is the reality we need to adjust to.

>>20828137
It's not worth it for me to yet but if gold and silver keep going up might be the only way not to get all my money taxed away. PM cap gains are ridiculous compared to equity.

>>20828144
still doomping, if it hits $20 by the time my paycheck arrives I'm satisfied

>>20828168
>PM cap gains are ridiculous compared to equity
Government really doesnt want anyone in the PM world

>>20828114
>What's the redemption minimum?
So I finally scanned SLV's prospectus and "Authorized Participants" can redeem baskets with a minimum of 50000 shares
>If you spend 183 days in P.R. you don't pay cap gains, even federal.
Then you are waiting 183 days. The futures would be most promising to me.

>>20828144
>Just pay 43% premiums goy

>>20828168
Haha kids have never heard of IRAs

>>20828114
>If you spend 183 days in P.R. you don't pay cap gains, even federal.
Like for when taxes hit on silver, gold, & stock?

If so than based.
It would be nice to be at the point where 5 2 years without working could be spent building ones own company & enjoying travel. That however just seems like a pipe dream. If I had that than maybe I'd buy land & just apply for teaching jobs abroad. Even then though what kind of loss are we talking about in 5 years from now when gold & silver are the most valuable trade currency on earth? 2ould it really our weigh the short term gains?

I'll just stick to my 5 year plan at this point while trying to make it in my hodl.

>>20828144
Should I cash out my LINK to do one more binge?

>>20828199
You pay 35% premiums you will never have a capital gain son

>>20828308
this. I want https://www.apmex.com/product/154937/2017-republic-of-chad-1-oz-silver-deathstalker-scorpion-bu so bad but no way I'm paying that premium

>>20828308
>>20828332
>>20828354
Morning paperfag, don't you have to be somewhere

the kike is awake, reminder to filter

>>20828332
IRA's hurt people too.
You are forced to hold stock in some cases & you can't sell.

IRAs in terms od small amount in multiple accounts is prudent though.

>>20828418
Why are you worried about capital gains when you have a short term loss?

>>20828347
Of course. All Digital illusions are going to zero and crypto is the biggest illusion of all. Do you think people care about 'smart contracts' during a pandemic and currency crisis? If you can manage to sell chain link and turn it into a precious metal you have sold NOTHING and gotten SOMETHING for it.

I can't believe some people have put six figures into crypto. For six figures my safe looks like this. For six figures people have gotten some digits on a screen only good for purchasing degenerate drugs or child porn.

>>20828482
>IRA's hurt people too.You are forced to hold stock in some cases & you can't sell.

>>20828482
Actually, there was an out if the OP had purchased the IAU or SLV shares in a Roth IRA. You can withdraw early without incurring penalties for a first time home purchase. A speculative property might rise in fiat value but a property with arable land and potable water could be a better hedge. And I think that extends to Puerto Rico. Interesting idea, if not possible here.

>>20828354
>>20828199
>>20828168
How would living in Japan for a year effect this dame PM gain possibility?

>>20828529
True that crypto is overvalued, but look at tech stocks like Tesla. Real estate here in Australia is stupidly overpriced (I work in construction). Crypto tech is interesting, it just hasn't matured yet and don't want to get priced out when it matures.
Thinking about just getting a 1kg bar and a tube of 1/10oz for small transactions when the time comes

>>20828114

>>20828212
Thanks anon. You are appreciated.

damn it feels good to have perth mint on your doorstep

>>20828580
In this case than grant & clearly beneficial as long as the rules don't change. A bit of a loop hole? If you don't buy property than cab they see that? Its just a direct accent transfer loop hole?

>>20828332
I made all my money via cap gains so I have a very small IRA.

>>20828344
That's right. It's a way to bring rich people to PR. A lot of Bitcoin whales have done it. Wish I had.

>>20828619
You don't need to pay state but still federal. It's only by living in PR. Just search moving to Puerto Rico and the law comes up no one else would move to Puerto Rico for any other reason.

>>20828749
Thanks, kind anon.

>>20828580
I did a little reading and I think a self-directed IRA could have worked to get into silver futures. So you could sell the shares, not pay capital gains as long as they remained in the account, then used the proceeds to purchase futures contracts. I can't seem to find anything definitive about what happens when you exercise the futures contract within the IRA. I have to assume that the metal becomes part of the IRA.
My guess is that the custodian would have to either store it for you with a preferred vendor or allow you to do it but require that it use a reputable service with a rigorous auditing service.
So that gets you, with some maneuvering, metal in a safe somewhere without having to pay capital gains that belongs to you. I just don't know if there is some way to get it "out" before the age of 59.5 without paying income or capital taxes on it.

>>20828787
IRA custodians track everything. You'd have to actually purchase the property with the proceeds which are capped at 100k. Good land i.e. not suburban cookie cutters or in major cities is also non-fiat and unprintable. It is also unminable.

>>20828824
https://www.theentrustgroup.com/investments/precious-metals/investment-process

It's not hard but not many people do it because there is no benefit. There is a benefit to iras though and if you dont have several you should quit jerking off to boomer rocks until you get some

>>20828520
I don't, that's >>20827826

>>20828810
>You don't need to pay state but still federal. It's only by living in PR
Well if thats t he case theres no way I would bull profit at any time right now with PM's. I could pick up a gig in Pourtotico for a year in time. Stacking PM's for now is the best option while I can.

just bought the last 3 ASE ill ever buy and it should put me past 50 toz. how did i do? also is there anything wrong with getting just sovereigns? i just like them more. maybe ill start buying rounds once all the main coins pass $30/toz

>>20828887
>You'd have to actually purchase the property with the proceeds which are capped at 100k.
Most people in these threads either want out of the city or are already out of the city. That seems like a viable asccet transfer in bad times. Probably the best I've ever heard of. There has to be a cap though which is a bit messy. There's risk in any investment, but this is the best IRA type it looks like.

Thanks anon.

what happened to silver overnight?
I was expecting unemployment to give it another run

>>20828308
>premiums
You mean the actual price for the actual asset?

>>20829283
Foreign powers have direct control over the spot price of silver and therefore gold, and are attempting to hold the federal reserve hostage by threatening to kill the dollar. I think the fed might kill the dollar first just to spite the yellow bastards, but I've been wrong before.

>>20829171
Well eagles are the most reputable in the U.S, bit its not going to matter too much long term I think personally. The way silver is going just means any silver is going to be worth it. Non-tarnished & uncirculated is always preferred.

I'm unfamiliar with if your referring to gold or not but seems like with those margins you're talking about silver.

50oz is good.
I'm about to break 200oz, but a word of advise is that even at 200oz this isn't considered viable, but its simply a healthy savings account in a global financial colapse. It may be 100K in a few years or it is simply far less.

Before we enterd inflation the word here was stacking 32,000 oz of silver was considered rhe ultimate side stack that you never touch it while still continuing to stack silver to trade, sell, and fund prospects like a multiple savings account.

When I first heard this it seemed impossible which for some it may be, but keep working smart. It may just come to pass. Remember though anon, this life is not the end goal. You'll be surprised how many people in /pmg/ are Christian.

Yes! Keep dropping!
Just in time for me to get paid

Imagine waking up early to sell on data that everyone already knew

>>20829283
>>20829372
Forigen powers want the dollar dead, yes, but, the globalist ((((them)))) and masons want the global monetary system to go digital &under one world government.

Their enemy has appeared to ruin them, so ((((they)))) are rushing their plans to ruin the dollar even though China isn't under their full control yet. ((((They)))) have been trying to make China their puppet since Mao was in power. China isn't fully on board with them though,so guess what their plan for a NWO is at risk at the very frainkenstien communsit regime they made, but even then they seem to think its more lucrative to support China in these plans than let Trump succeed.

Trump is such a large threat to them with the Catholic Church that they're willing to ruin themselves & sell out to china. They're risk is this high.

how long will this dip last for lads? I don't get paid till tommorrow

>>20826887
No, much worse. He doesn't seem to be there, but in reality he is carrying you though the worst times.

>>20829577
Based Jesus bro

>>20829348
No I mean the 43% extra you pay for silver because you have a primitive need to have it right now in your greasy hand. Why else would you pay 43% more for silver than me?

>>20829570
If we drop down to $20 we will be lucky. In truth I have no ida how long the dip will last though. This spike may be enough for the 14% of Americans to have sold a good chunk of silver to see this minor dip. We may sky rocket within the next week when people are done selling.

Not a good time to sell off in all honesty, but people saw silver as an emergency fund to match the dollar. People dont realize the dollar as we know it is going to die.

>>20829372
>>20829540
>>/x/

>>20826887
>>20829577
>>20829647
Ave Maria Pursuma.

>>20829681
Muh currency collapse

>>20829696
welcome to /pmg/ where the woke go broke.

>>20829659
Because you're not actually buying silver.

>>20829681
sure the dollar will die, but not any time soon. so plenty of time to make money in different ways then getting scammed with 35% premiums

>>20829443
>bro... just have $600k to be a prepared prepper otherwise you aren't going to make it
lmao

>>20829733
Ome side has already attempted multiple times to introduce us to a difital currency. That in itself is a shift to essentially a new currncy through a different medium.. Nancy pelocie has had it added it in a few times on the stimulus checks just to have it struck out by Trump. The dems know the dillar can't survive unless they do something, but they want the nefarious means of how the currency changes to succeed thus they are crashing the market by the means of printing FED bills.

Trumps cabinet is pro-gold standard. This could change the entire USD into something else or simply save the USD in the face of inflation. Either way the currency isn't going to be the same after this. Silver & gold will remain.

>>20829821
Not the case. Not what I am implying.

>>20829750
I'm buying silver you are buying .67 silver because you hate silver as much as you love paying fees to shlomo

>>20824783
>you're either going to have to hold for a long time to get your value back
You people just don't get it, huh?
>or shit is going to have to hit the fan really hard for it to be worth it
Yes, that is kind of the point.

>>20823837
It's the mark of the beast

>32,000 oz of silver was considered rhe ultimate side stack that you never touch
>>20829821
>>20829443
Interesting because my back of the envelope calculations last night showed the same thing and I was mocked by the resident retards who pay 43% commissions

>Well you need $100,000 plus $1000 a month until you turn 63. Since you are probably 13 that's 100k plus $600,000 with silver at $20 that's 30,000 ounces you need to "make it"

>>20830026
If you know that the shit is hitting the fan you wouldn't give 33% of your silver to a jew

Selling all my silver stocks. Fuck this.

how low is SLV gonna go?

>>20830139
Weak hands

>>20830145
0

Filter trolls and tards

>>20830145
Not gonna lie It's not that hard to understand if you are high IQ. It's just that buying physical metal is fundamentally flawed, not because of 32% premiums, those are fine, but because the stock of physical metal just isn't about to be out there anymore. Production was at a four-year-high BEFORE the rona shut everything down. Now everybody and their mother is curtailing production. EVERYBODY! Whats going to happen when they flood the market with that pent up supply? WHAT? The biggest banks in the world have been playing games with physical silber and gold for scores of years. YEARS
Silver is NOT PAPER METAL
Gold is NOT PAPER METAL
When the supply of non paper metal goes up and the people who are CURRENTLY being brought up on RICO charges get outed to the public at large that they're fixing the bloody prices for personal gain, EVERY BIT OF SILVER AND GOLD WILL GO TO 0.
EVERY
SINGLE
O N E.

Good luck. I hope you leverage your gains out now, because when the real squeeze starts to hit, it's going to be way too late to regret your decisions. The consequences of your actions while ordained have never been similar. NEVER!
>>20830212
Exactly

>>20830249
Listening to a tard who doesn't believe in IQ is typical redddddit behavior

>20830298

>>20829659
You're not buying anything else than the idea that you could hold silver if you wanted to. Nothing else.

>>20830275
take your meds

>>20830275
>pent up supply
They weren't working during the pandemic, there is no "pent up supply".
And do you seriously SERIOUSLY think that mines are going to kneecap their own trade by flooding the market? What planet are you living on? These things are strictly regulated, pal.

>>20824827
Hedge your financial vehicles with other financial vehicles. Physical PM's are a great way to immediately lose value on your "investment".

>>20830339
That's why I'm rich and you are poor. I buy silver for my benefit you buy silver for shlomos benefit

>>20830388
I'd you're so rich, why are you arguing with a bunch of small-time stackers on a Mongolian basket weaving forum?
Go take the yacht out for a spin, faggot.

>>20830139
Bullish

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20830102
Its not like people aren't actively put there trying to make large sums of money like over 1.5 million within 5 years or less. Everyone whose a player or want sto be a player in the world market belive & try to their best to make large amounts of money based on their skills & intelligence. To suggest 600K spent on silver is an outrageous goal with such people in mind is either an intentional or unintentional blunders assumption.

Friends in New York a few years ago had well over 200K in play money. I'm not one of them, but it just proves the point that dropping such a large amount of money on silver isn't impossible.

Not everyone will have access to such money. Its ok though. Serve your duties & you'll make it where & when you're called to.

>>20830388
time for you to brag about your 4 digit gains again bro i was really impressed

>>20824567
Iktf mate. Fuck 1965

>>20830438
Made me look/10

The book value of non financial corporations has increased by 1% annually since the previous peak in 2007. The market value of their equities increased ~4-6% annually in that time. To get to the same growth in book value and market value (at the peak of the last bubble!) equities would have to lose almost 45% of their market value.

Looks like silver is dumping today, should I buy more PHYS?

Also I have about 3,500 ... how should I allocate it? I have some risk adversion.

>>20824251
THe gun holds value like silver does and will also jump in price as economic depression sets in.

>>20830500
I bought at $25, im finacially ruined

>>20830636
This. All my guns have appreciated higher than I paid for them.

>>20830691
I'm the guy who bought rolls of ASEs at $26. You don't know my pain right now.

>>20830636
I get my loicense some time next month. Wondering if I should splurge on a a smith and wesson revolver model 63 or just get a cheap beretta m9. Heard they're decent first guns.

>Bought a small stack of 80 ounces of silver last month when the prices were around 17-18


I told you niggas to hold off. Ill buy more at 20-22 an ounce

HERE WE GO

>>20830900
I've got a S&W model 10 waiting for me at the gun store, honestly I'd get something along the line of the 38 or 9mm because it's practically the same price, it won't be too hard to shoot if you're a grown man and it will actually stop a home invader. If you want to go up from there just consider where you live, I live in a row home so i'd buy a shot gun for more stopping power since i don't want rifle rounds flying through my neighbors house.
>>20830920
>bought 40 ASEs at the start of the month
>profited

>>20830377
This.
They knew people were throwing away electronics on a massive scale to the point where it eventually would eat up the silver supply to raise prices. People thought the market was flooded, so the demand lessened thus making silver mines unprofitable for a time. Hold the mining to let the supply become more valuable.

>>20830920
and we will only buy more when we are back down..

i hate everyone of you faggots. the usd will never collapse and you suckers hate yourself for buying a nonperforming asset with sky high premiums and when you sell you will only make deals far under spot. enjoy your shiny rocks and sex dolls weirdos.

I think SIlver futures could bottom at ~21.60. This pullback action is encouraging.

>>20830619
Super Shady Sprott see #3 below just because its 3 doesn't mean not important

Just getting in early because this is so important so that I can repeat this from the last thread because of the urgency of speculation compounding FOMO/FUD

"GDXJ and SILJ will get delisted due to Force Majuere soon, and the people here who are foolishly buying options on them will lose everything as they should. This video will explain it all to you in detail but only if you watch it, in detail and with active learning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY&feature=emb_title

You should be doing either one or both or neither of two things,

1) Buying EFTs to hold in your possession i.e. your hands , paws or meathooks, if it's not in your hand at your job you will be canned. Simple as

2) Buying the GOLD and SLV stocks and EFTs on the stock market. This is important!

3) Shorting Sprott EFTs, ETFs and other so called funds of funds. Look into non shared warehouse speciation custodial lots risky scheme ICYMI

Chris Marcus interviewed over a hundred people in the anime futa industry for his book "The Big Silver Shorty Pants," and, when he would ask each one how many owners there are for each mercury dime, he never got an answer lower than 500."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD6yjimNno

>>20830377
You're replying to the anti-physical shill. He posts from 0800-2100 EST all day every day. Identify him every thread and filter his ID

>>20830482
Time for you to brag about how much you lost on your non paper boomer rocks

>>20831033


I picked up a .38 spl revolver ages ago,

*and I never shot it once*

I really need some fucking range time, but living in MA and not belonging to a gun club basically means I can't shoot it anywhere. I need to flee this shithole state in the next year or too. Any suggests anons? A place with some IT/tech jobs but loose gun laws would be ideal. Texas looked fine, but there's such an influx of Cali-fags that it'll be a shithole in 10 years.

>>20830619
Always buy physical, but wait for it to dip a bit I think. Also, ignore the shill who responded to you just before me.

>>20831175
Maine. I live in CT but I'm far enough in the woods that I just go shooting in the field behind my house. Feels good man. I carry a .357 mag every day, so I respect your .38 spcl

>>20831199
Physical isn't real silver its .7 silver

Haha you losers cry about silver going down 20 cents when you paid $6 over spot. Dumb!

>>20831229

I never understood memes about stopping power. 90% of the power a gun holds is just the intimidation factor. No one wants to get shot, even by a .22

Plus I'm a 5'7" slim manlet so I need something that wont stick out like a sore thumb on me.

>>20831173
I think it's a Euro zoomer who's assblasted that they're a europoor faggot and don't have access to American PM dealers.

>>20831199
Thanks. I have 5 grand in physical coming that I bought this last weekend. 2oz of gold and 35oz of silver.

I'm a bit of a mess with my stocks though. See attached. I don't really know if I should buy more miners or more gold. I own some GLD and SLV but all new buying I'm going into the Sprott's ones after reading this thread.

>>20823837
>>20823863
haha microwave go brrrr

>>20823874
Just remember, spot price is not the true value of silver. Spot is merely the paper silver value. I know it's hard to accept when we've been in the red practically all week but hold fast.
And don't feel too bad like me, where I bought 35ozs the other day when the price was spiking

>>20831307
Because the guns aren't for intimidating, they're for protecting and ending human life. If you're in a position where drawing a firearm is necessary you are in a position where killing another human being is necessary, they aren't toys. You only have one life, and once another person has given you clear signals that they are willing to cause you grievous harm for something they want, it becomes incumbent upon you, the victim, to answer with overwhelming deadly force.

Life is a dangerous and scary place, you need to get your mind right about being able to take life before owning a gun will do you any good. I've seen more than enough violence, and have more than enough scars from it, to know that I never want to experience it again. I won't start any more violence, but if it's brought to me I will end it and the person who employs it.

>>20831307
Stopping power isn't a meme in of itself.
When hunting & being charged an animal isn't going to think twice.

When in a armed conflict with domestic or forigen threats sometimes going to to toe is inevitable & someone. Stopping power is meant to just take something down when you have to.

Currency collapses tend to happen fairly quickly once the bottom falls out.
The Fraudulent Reserve is FUCKED since they can't raise interest rates without fucking the entire economy. They've reinflated the worst stock market ever, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Either we pay up with hyperinflated currency or we tell the world to fuck off in a vain attempt to save the US Fed Note and not pay them like a deadbeat, and you know what happens to deadbeats.
BUY GOLD & SILVER WHILE YOU STILL CAN, FRENS. YUUUUUGE ANIME TIDDIES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>>20831307
Man, sheeeit, I seen a tiny-ass 22 round nose drop a nigga plenty a day, man. Motha fuckas get up in you like a pinball, rip your ass up.
Big joints though, big joints man, they just break a bone and just say fuck it.

>>20831487
>>20831463

Good points good points.

Im in the market for a good shotgun anyways. Been a bitch finding one though.

>>20831564
New

>>20831564

New

>>20831564

>>20831534
>YUUUUUGE ANIME TIDDIES ON THE OTHER SIDE

Please oh please oh please oh please...

>>20823779
Beat deals on silver bullion right now? Already got the silver gold bull bar

>>20831588
This is the faggot's thread, someone make a real thread

>>20831633
I mean they still have silver... not gonna find too many deals though,silver just dropped over a buck and the cheapest rounds are still 37-38$ cad

new non gay bread
>>20831712

>>20831534
The artist name is Kemuri Haku

new bread
>>20831712
>>20831712

>>20831712

>>20831308
Europeans can order from at least APMEX and JM, though.

>>20831740
thanks for the sauce
u will be rewarded in heaven

>>20830847
>bought 50oz at $26
oh well, I'm just happy to finally own silver.

>>20824251
No, just be a personal body guard for some one who has a monster stack and they can pay you in silver.
Keep the gun, get silver. It's a win win

>>20824456
That's ok, spend that upcoming helicopter currency on PMs

>>20824692
It would have to be the normies right? Like redditors looking how to start stacking and shit?
Who else is left?