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>Avalanche

Windows, MacOS, Linux, Temple OS

It is getting dethroned as soon as the developers above defiscam- and cryptokitties-tier will start using Cardano, since it is the only one
- you can actually trust your money in (peer review and formal verification)
- that scales

No programmer above plebejan webdev wants to use javascript (or derivatives) voluntarily. Any compsci-wizard either loves C++ or Haskell or both. And good luck writing solid smart contracts in C++.


Just accept it, Charles won.

t. Developer

>>20796934
cardano is utter shit compared to avalanche

>>20796934

>>20796934
Cardano is JOKE!

>>20797017
>>20797106
seething is bad for the skin and heart frens :)

>>20797017
Gavin wood calmly explaining why Avalanche is absolute trash and Polkadot is better:

https://hackmd.io/@gavwood/HJrgddTxD

>>20796934
4tps shitcoin

A key factor that no one is even condidering was the ICO mania. ETH dApp ecosystem got a massive kickstart. Billions of dollars got donated to ETH projects by degenerate crypto gamblers. Many of these were scams, but also many projects got more money than they ever needed and have now been developing for 2+ years. All the success and activity on now ETH is because of that. And things are still continuously bring released.
These ETH killers would need another ICO mania and 2+ years just to catch up to current ETH ecosystem. Meanwhile fighting ETH and all other ETHkillers.
:)

>>20796934
>Any compsci-wizard either loves C++ or Haskell or both
>Haskell

Polkadot isn’t really an ETH killer but a complement to it, hence why ETH will rule this space.

>>20796701
Let me take a look at coinmarketcap and see what these ETH killers are doi-

Oh. Nothing.

Fake news DOT isn't trying to dethrone Eth, it's built to complement Eth.

Real eth killer is eth

>>20796934
>>20797017
>>20797041
>>20797268
>Retards proving OPs point KEK
I just love how normies get into crypto, watch a top 100 coin do something, "research" it (or more accurately, read well disguised advertisements) and just shill it, shill it, and shill it. They're so sure in their heads that they got the one, they're so smart, they literally can't go wrong. They go into the coin's telegram, they're finally, part of a community. Cult member status, achieved, herd mentality, activated. It's us or them. Their coin can't do wrong. It's a top tier dev team. Mainnet soon. Partnerships. THE TECH.

>>20797838
This.

There's nowhere you can go to have a discussion about competing chains.

Every telegram group is just an echo chamber and any dissent will get you banned
As if any of them actually understand the tech and can tell which ones will work.

People who are married to their investment and will not even consider alternatives are ngmi.

SOL is mostly tron tier marketing, Avalanche is just promises with already massive holes and under-providing promises and mostly shilled by ICO buyers waiting for on listing dump for quick bucks.

I'll rate by tiers (Summing tech, community and already established use cases and partners), Regardless of that, Nobody will take ETH place:

A tier "ETH killers":
>Polkadot
>Cardano?
>Dfinity?
>Algorand?

B tier:
>Cosmos
>Tezos
>Hashgraph

C tier:
>Avalanche
>Solana
>Zilliqa
>Elrond
>Oasis

D tier:
>FTM
>Harmony

F tier:
Rest of the trash

>>20798058
>number of people listetning to zero knowledge debates is lower than mid tire yt shill
>number of devs working on every aspect of eth (plasma,zk,2.0,10. etc) is just insane considering how there is no coordination at all and everything is self funded and grassroot
>20 years in sc and I just got mindblown AF lsitening to starkware guys on ZK podcast
>Yet I open biz and listen shitcoin peddlers call eth devs "script kiddies"

OOF

>>20798290
You forgot near kek

>>20796934
>C++
Real developers understand that CPP is loaded with useless bloat and stick to C.
:^)

>>20796701
The real one in terms of usage begins with a K

But ironically it likely won't be from a valuation standpoint because of the coin economics

>>20798459
e.g if gas is incredibly cheap on these scaled chains, the coins don't have fundamental value that increases with chain usage (because they're never needed in high amounts).

>>20796934
You can write in whatever language you want for eth 2 you idiot. Ever heard of EWASM?

>>20796701
I hold ETH and Cardano. ETH has some serious issues that are very difficult to deal with on an existing chain where you don’t want to screw with people’s money. I think 2.0 is going to take longer than 2 years. Even Phase 0 that is supposed to come out this year or early next doesn’t address scaling. Vitalik said that Phase 1 is where improvements to scaling will happen. The account model makes this so much more complicated. They have the pressure to release, but so much will rely on it that I am worried about vulnerabilities.

At the end of the day, there is nothing built on Ethereum at this point that is more than just a proof of concept or crypto speculation. We don’t have widespread adoption, so there’s no advantage that can’t be overcome by another chain. And we will ultimately end up with multiple settlement layers. There isn’t going to be a single one. Each one will find its niche or fail. Interoperability will rule the day as the crypto space will more resemble an interconnected network of multiple chains and side chains rather than just one. There doesn’t need to be an “ETH killer”. Some competition would be good for the space, tbqhwyf.

>>20796934
>peer review
did you see that whiteboard video

>>20798588
>Go, Rust, and C/C++
>whatever language you want

>>20798290
you put hashgraph in b tier when it's a marketing and buzzword project

>>20798627
Phase 0 is the hard part
Phase 1 research is basically done and they've already merged eth1 chain to eth2 in testing.

ITT: deluded ((eth killers)) brainlet bagholder hopium club

>>20798740
I know, But it does have large ecosystem in comparison to the rest.

>>20797838
>normies
>literal reddit text meme

>>20797284
It's officially 35 tps if you count as 1on1 transactions.

>>20797284

>>20798290
Smartest person in this thread besides me.

>>20796934
>developers will adopt a smart contract platform with no smart contracts

>>20796934
charles won in the sense that he has been living like a millionaire over the last few years off you bagholders's money while he hasn't or ill not ever deliver anything worthy

>>20799999

Confirmed and Witnessed

Peer reviewed money grab

>>20796934
>No programmer above plebejan webdev wants to use javascript (or derivatives) voluntarily
Except all centralized financial services already do kek.
Just accept Haskell is too high IQ to ever be used. Nobody is going to learn category theory to write code when Solidity smart contracts have been holding up fine.

>>20798290
ok grant hummer retard

You better have a fat stack of this autistic spergs Eth for when things kick off later this year

>>20797584
>Cardano Rank 7
> Exept Spagetterium nothing with smart contract capabilities above, all PoW
hmmm

>>20797703
this

>>20797838
>>20798058
Ok unironically, please tell me why Cardano is not not the best. I bought just recently and am in the green, if you convince me I will switch this instant. If this sounds adversarial to you I really don't mean to.

I just shitpost because everyone else does (and trying to provide at least some reasoning). As soon as someone else starts an actual discussion I am on board.

I am aware of the "Cardano is a scam because they never release anything" argument which would be maybe very valid some time ago but mainnet coming today, no?

>>20798633
see?

>>20798871
what I mean?

>>20800166
>all centralized financial services
Not sure if you mean ETH-defi but otherwise you just pissed yourself.

>Haskell is too high IQ
Because you want brainlets to write smart contracts in a language which is far more errorprone than functionals

>category theory
Haskell is super simple if you just study it for a few hours really. And elegant af.

>Solidity smart contracts have been holding up fine.
Everthing holds until it doesn't, then everybody acts surprised when something gets hacked.
Every single time.
Not impossible with functional languages also but far more unlikely. Also, you can prove equivalence to your papers via specs programatically, and the papers in turn are peer reviewed.

>>20800166
https://youtu.be/MpWeg6Fg0t8
sweet summer child

>>20798290
I don't own any of the shit-chains, just Ethereum but Cosmos is not as shit as Tezos or Hashgraph lol.

The existence of "ETH killers" only serves to affirm Ethereum's dominance.

>>20800756
>eth killers
a term coined by consensys shills to downplay percieved threats

>>20800756
>The existence of "Apple" only serves to affirm Microsoft's dominance.

>>20800438
There's a difference between making money and actually being invested in a good project. The fact that you made money does not validate Cardano. It is a piece of shit vaporware soon to be ghostchain.

>>20796934
EWASM allows devs to write in whatever language in ETH 2.0. cardano is another dead ethkiller

>>20801009
Not citing my profits to validate Cardano, but to tell you that I have no reason to fall for the sunk cost fallacy because I lost money and want it to go back up.

>>20801058
But when will it come out? From what I hear the switch will be hugely complicated, and in the case of PoS/scalable smart contracts Cardano is the one with the head start.

Nobody talking about Cypherium as a possible ETH Killer?

>First public Permissionless Hotstuff Algorithm
>Partnered with Google, Microsoft, Amazon, IBM and more
>Founding member of DMI of OMFIF (great for CBDC)
>Probably the CBDC partner for China (they were implemented into Suzhou were China will first test their CBDC)
>Smart Contracts for Java, Python, Ruby and R

>>20796701
The one chosen by Chainlink will be the standard.