/biz/ - Business & Finance

why would I buy now and not in 1 month at half the sats

>>20771241
In 1 month at double the sats.

>>20771241
Buy one now and another 2 in a month if it crashes like that. If it goes up you'll only be able to afford one. Loser.

>>20771421
why would it go up, DEX won't have an effect on MN till 1 year so I'll just buy a MN in a few weeks after BTC ETH eth keeps pumping und XSN keeps dumping, once you bought XSN you can't get out, if you sell livecoin orderbook is empty

>>20771639
Price of XSN will go up...

>>20771668
haha WHY though I'll probably buy my masternodes at 2k USD per MN

>>20771241
>>20771639
>>20771731
die poor

>>20771825
>he doesn't know
DEX fees won't go to MN until HYDRA which is 1year + out

There are like 10.000.000 DASH. DASH was 1642$ at its ATH. 1000 DASH are needed for a MN. A DASH MN can't do shit, but they were the first.
XSN MN will bring revolutionary tech, suck in the whole Uniswap universe and will brdige between BTC, ETH, XMR and many more. In case of a second 2017 we will see 100$+ per XSN, which will result in a single XSN MN being wort more rhan 1.500.000$. Grasp the scale of this or die poor

>>20772716
Ah good point, there's literally no way the price can appreciate until then

ok pajeet

>>20773227
Yes, this is the only thing that could possibly move the price. Even if it gets massive adoption, that will have no effect on the price. Look at Eth, same price since launch, only staking could increase Eth’s value.

>>20773366
>5 posts by this ID

>>20772979
Not trying to fud. Honestly trying to decide to buy a xsn MN or not. Xsn will act as a bridge to trade any coin on any chain correct? Isnt this similar to what polkadot and projects building on it can do? Why bet on xsn (buying a MN) when theres a competitor which loads of devs are building on?

>>20771825
>legal paperwork
Why the need for that when you're releasing a product that will make the authorities tremble? Seems kind of cuck move when you're fighting against the system.

>>20773624
It’s for people running the aggregators (not part of the core team). I assume they don’t want to go to jail on day 1.

>>20773658
>It’s for people running the aggregators
They're not anonymous? What's the point of this shit then.

someone post the mcdonalds chart

>>20773593
Afaik polkadot isn’t building on lightning and is in early stages yet.
So we need to wait a little longer to find out what they do exactly.
Imo to build on lightning is the much better approach.
You can use lnd not just for offchain atomic swaps but also for payment solutions and a whole lot of apps as decentralized messaging services, payment services....and so on.

These days over 1000 btc are loaded into the lightning network and adoption is real.

At Stakenet, the dex is only one piece of that cake. But the necessary engine to kickoff a entire ecosystem.
Amazing times coming anon

when do we stop dumping
I was promised $1

>>20773722
Define anonymity in crypto first. If you don’t think that any legalities might be involved, that’s incredibly naive, and not preparing for them is incredibly idiotic.

>>20774130
retard

>>20771241
>why would I buy now and not in 1 month at half the sats
yep
This fucking has been exsposed when devs don't let MN holders to share DEX profit ntil phase 3 (we are not even in phase 1.. immagine how long the waiting)

Buying at 30 cent when you can buy at 10 cents. Very mongoloid tier
I was about to sell Link for this scam

>>20774626
>DEX profit
don't let MN holders to collecDEX fees until phase 3*

>>20773931
>Imo to build on lightning is the much better approach.
>You can use lnd not just for offchain atomic swaps but also for payment solutions and a whole lot of apps as decentralized messaging services, payment services....and so on.
so Would Polkadot be a better approach?

>>20774892
Nope

>btc entered bullrun
>no one can sell large amounts of XSN because there's no buyers without tanking the price to 0
>keep buying guuise! HYDRA SOON
>meanwhile dex is about to be released with shady 'liquidity partners' and dex fees being collected by the team

Good job, Stakeshits. Post more MSPaint memes, they always crack me up.

When the price of a masternode is more than a dash node, we'll see who will have the last laugh

>>20775281
haha I'm sure it will go there but first it will go to 5 cent, I'll stack up a few masternodes and then hydra will come in a few years

>>20774626
This shitcoin is a technical masterpiece.
Guess u dont use the wallet yet.
Did u see that they go to burn coins from day 1 / launch?
Decreasing supply, higher demand, working product which isn’t available from any competitors yet and altseason will kick that price to saturn anon.
I don’t have that big balls to gamble with my stack.
Do you have?

>>20774892
From a quick search it looks like they're using multiple sidechains. So they still work on-chain and will probably use tokenization to interact with its mainchain. That's a very much different approach compared to the one of Stakenet. Personally I don't like tokenization because you're never using the actual thing, but always a token and I don't think the on-chain scaling problem can be solved well with outsourcing to dozens/hundreds of sidechains.

>>20775469
>This shitcoin is a technical masterpiece
Why do devs don't let MN holders share DEXes fees from the beginning? No answer at this

>>20775620
Because they will use the money to incentivize development to achieve stage 3, you braindead retard.

>>20775620
I think thats simple.
The Masternodes earning fees as soon the Hydra Network is running.

And thats not in a far future as what i read.

>>20775512
so better the XSN approach? why?

>>20775823
because the lightning network is a adopted standard and you use real assets and not some tokenized bs.
A think about the onchain fees..
Used eth dexes recently? Puh

>>20775187
And they will fucking kvetch and cry at any
>fud
which is genuine criticism, I don't like their prospects.

>>20775787
>>20775800
There are already nodes and they've been working on this for YEARS, why the fuck are the devs holding coins AND taking dex fees instead of distributing them to node holders? None of these answers make sense.

>>20776396
I just told you why. The hydra infra is not done, and no one is going to do it for free. If that doesn’t “make sense” to you, then that’s your decision.

>>20776396
The Tech is in Beta yet.
I think it is just the right way to start with one hub, make that code perfect and then go for the nodes.

>>20775800
>The Masternodes earning fees as soon the Hydra Network is running.
Hydra lol.. it's phase 3
you are in phase 0 currently

>>20775883
>you use real assets and not some tokenized bs
But using tokenized assets and then uploading the transaction on chain keeps off the need of running nodes once for all

>>20776783
It's been 3 years retard they should be done completely by now let alone with a simple dex. Who the fuck do they have to pay and why is that coming out of the node holder's pockets not the dev's?


>>20776962
Your answer would make sense if it hadn't been three years already. I appreciate your answer though seemed thought out.

>>20777011
>knows everything about the project
>seethes nonstop about the project
Yeah, really makes you wonder what happened. Swingers get roped.

>>20776962
>tech is in beta
>release the tech
>no longer in beta
>yeah guise we mean the liquidity and infrastructure in in beta
>keep buying xsn while we accumulate
>okay guise we're gonna launch phase 2
>oh-oh noes guise small problem. uhhh- so long and thanks for all the fish
>posw 2021
>forever embedded in /biz/ as twice bitten twice got fucked over

I see people fighting to accumulate, these prices are so low. GL to you all

>>20777046
Yeah, SW development is totally free! They didn’t do an ICO-rugpull, and are currently funded by the MN governance system, as I’m sure you know. Why do you idiots think everything is free and should happen immediately?

>>20777046
>It's been 3 years retard they should be done completely by now let alone with a simple dex.
Go to sleep, Skadoosh.

>>20777192
It sounds like you have no answer, why is it coming out of the node holder's pockets??? The dev's have coins to use for payment, and are getting funding from MN network according to you so why take more from your investors?

>>20777331
>everything I don't like is a schizophrenic manifestation of anons being a particular person

>>20777046
3 years is a long time. Specially in crypto. But also, this tech is brand new and there is no guide to build it.
Just follow the progress.
XSN is in my opinion one of the most interesting projects yet. As it opens a whole new market.
And yes, they are hated. They are hated much for what they do, thats for sure.
Fud is and will always be thrown against them.

>>20777439
>so why take more from your investors?
Explain how they are taking "more from their investors"? The MN infra is not implemented in stages 1 or 2, so it's not coming from "node holders pockets??????". Lying through your teeth again. Advice: Maybe stop flagging your posts with the retard anime memes, so you're not recognized in every thread, kek.

I have 2 MNs but I hate that the devs minted themselves 7M coins last year and still are going to take the dex fees for some undefined period of time. On top of that they get the 10% of block rewards as well as the treasury's rewards (both staked and MNs). I'm gambling on this one but the people shilling this are too stupid to realize the devs are being paid handsomely and have an incentive to move slowly and slow-drip "progress" to keep people excited and buying more.

>>20777095
>>knows everything about the project
yes because you shill it non stop..
Then one anon said:
''The MN holders won't get DEXes rewards at the beginning they will go all into the dev pocket... so why should they be incentivized to finish the phase 3'' ?

And he enlight us. I was going to sell some Linkies for this shit at 30 cents when probably it will dump like fire cause MN won't see any DEX fee for 3 years

>>20777521
It's not fud if it's real and true. I've had my eye on the proj for the last couple years and I want it to work out but there's a shitload of sketchy bs surrounding it. For one thing the obvious newfags here shilling the project while barely understanding xsn or the may /biz/ talks. It really stands out and feels unnatural. It's not organic so I can only assume it's the marketing department cutting corners and hiring 3rd worlders with shit English here. There is no hate or fud against xsn, at least never seen on 4chan in any threads ever made currently active or in the archives. Wanting to know how the project works is not fud or 'seefing'. Three years is a ridiculously long time but it does say something that they managed to stay afloat that long while working on lightning so that much isn't too big a mark against them how I see it. The pajeets keep pushing the masternode meme, and it's an exciting prospect but having to wait until hydra is discouraging when there is no good reason for it. If they need funds why not use tokenomics to encourage fundraising instead of actively build the system to discourage it? 6.62xsn/day is nice, but it's not 95% of dex fees. We've seen scams and who's to say they don't keep it in phase 2 since that is the finished product? The only difference between 2 and 3 is who gets paid. They can still be greedy and take 30% of fees. Hell, even 70%. At least that leaves MN operators with more than 0%. This is what I'm afraid of. They get it running and keep all the money to fund other dapps they're building and just keep thinking up new dapps and yeah I did not say julying on the dex fees going to MN operators.

>>20777521
What is there to show this is truly revolutionary? That's what I want to see but all I'm getting is autistic screeching

>>20777521
Like this anon. Again you have ignored the question and tried to argue some sort of minutiae. You have funds, and are currently getting funds from MN apparently, so why not give the MN holders a cut of trading when the dex is up? Also ANIME IMAGEBOARD

>>20777883
Plenty of us investors are waiting on an answer but they treat everyone with hostility

>>20778039
>inb4 this logical and well laid out '''''''fud response'''' is just disregarded and a new thread is made to try and avoid it
>like every thread the past week

>>20778341
This is what I'm saying, they don't understand what they're doing by shilling in this particular way

>>20778039
>>20778151
>more "i feel concerned" imaginary fud/playing the victim based around nothing
Everyday its some fake larp with 0 proof.

>>20778039
>is an exciting prospect but having to wait until hydra is discouraging when there is no good reason for it
this

>>20777808
I was responding to this post with the second part of >>20778151

>>20778521
>still no real response at all
Clockwork

>>20778039
>It's not fud if it's real and true.
Just saying it’s sketchy, doesn’t make it so. Provide some proof.
>For one thing the obvious newfags here shilling the project while barely understanding xsn or the may /biz/ talks.
Are you aware that this just 5x’d because they opened the beta for testers? Ever thought this might bring in some new people?
>There is no hate or fud against xsn, at least never seen on 4chan in any threads ever made currently active or in the archives. Wanting to know how the >project works is not fud or 'seefing'.
Yeah, not like the 5x’ing didn’t birth some extremely bitter whales who got priced out, and now invade every single XSN thread. People who are very familiar with the history of the project, but attack it constantly, why could that be? It’s because they got left on the shore with shit in their pants.
>Three years is a ridiculously long time but it does say something that they managed to stay afloat that long while working on lightning so that much isn't too big >a mark against them how I see it.
The current team has not worked on this for “3 years”. Is this the new fake-fud?
>The pajeets keep pushing the masternode meme, and it's an exciting prospect but having to wait until hydra is discouraging when there is no good reason for >it.
No good reason? How about the tech is not ready?
>If they need funds why not use tokenomics to encourage fundraising instead... Error: Comment too long (2608/2000)....
It’s not the only difference. Coin appreciation and project adoption rate would greatly suffer, if they decided to do any of these things. This would negatively impact their returns. This is like saying “Who’s to say Vitalik wont keep all of the staking returns to himself”.

>>20778521
Where's your proof that a dex is coming this year, never mind HYDRA.

>I have 2 MNs but I hate that the devs minted themselves 7M coins last year and still are going to take the dex fees for some undefined period of time.
Created so that the project wouldn’t die, even if the market died. Cannot be released without MN governance consent.
>On top of that they get the 10% of block rewards as well as the treasury's rewards (both staked and MNs). I'm gambling on this one but the people shilling this are too stupid to realize the devs are being paid handsomely and have an incentive to move slowly and slow-drip "progress" to keep people excited and buying more.
Are you arguing this is worse than having an ICO where the team would get 100 million or so? I bet having a bottomless reserve really motivates you. They were getting minimum wage tier per dev just a few months ago.

>>20778872
Developers have said it's coming (the DEX) in <6 months. They have given no release date for the Hydra, so there is no proof.

>>20778594
>>20778662
Copypaste fud based off nothing other than what some random anon thinks the dev team might do. It's been answered multiple times as its been spammed in threads for a week+

>>20778916
>masternode governance
>implying the team doesn't have like 1800 or more masternodes between them
>implying Draper doesn't have like 100
>implying the vote would ever be no when the team holds the majority vote
>masternode foverneet DAO meme

>>20779023
Again, just saying things, with absolutely 0 proof.

>>20779056
Nothing new under the Sun.

>>20779056
>be january 2020
>be following stakenet
>see tweet
>..........................
>showtime soon
>.................
>..........................................
>August 2020..... This year, promise! j-just a few more bugs to iron out

>>20779156
Seems like the fudders ran out steam for today, so XSN $100 2021 and good night!

>>20779056
Do you have proof that he doesn't?????

Is that what this has came down to? You're just backing up every point the other anon just made. Hurr durrr no speculation allowed! Everything we shills say is true, 100% buy our coin!

>>20778673
>long ass post that says basically nothing
Who gives a fuck if it's not the current team, there's been a project going for 3 years, why is there any reason to deny the investors their cut when they have 7m coins and are getting MN money right now apparently?

>>20778916
>>20779023
>>20779156
Xsn shills on suicide watch

>>20779020
Copy paste huh? I distinctly remember typing most of this. You guys are desperate

>>20779274
Yes, beta testing was launched. Thanks for reminding us.

>>20779331
Seems like you forgot to change your IP? LOL

>>20779337
>Who gives a fuck if it's not the current team,
Who gives a fuck you're constantly caught lying and on top of that just forgot to change your IP, KEK

>>20779337
>the dev team is going to build non-stop through a bear market off no ICO funds for 2.5 years so they can pull a fast one on the MN network when the work is 99% complete
This assertion is exactly why assertion starts with ass.

>>20778521
I'm not the only one to put a little bit of money in this. It's just hard to get more than 5 MNs when so much is up in the air, and I'm not talking about the orderbooks here. It's not like link where I can just keep blindly throwing money at it every two weeks. The monetization was apparent there, it made sense, and if nothing else I was sure to get my initial back at the least. Now it's up 20x from average buy. Xsn is up 2x so I'm still in the green. That said xsn threads come and go here but I've not seen it pushed as hard as it has been these last few weeks. For all I know the recent price movement could all be from that. For a long time I was in the red on xsn.
If it's about playing the victim as you call it, again it's the devs shooting themselves in the foot and you're the one crying about it. It just doesn't make sense. Why is my not putting more money in this seen as hurting you? They could take a page from Sergey and give us some 750k dumps if they really need the money. Masternodes already had their time and it looks like a meme looking back. The idea of xsn running dapps is great, but the timeline is weird and I've followed them enough to know the dex isn't their biggest, craziest, or most ambitious goal with the network. I want to know we're getting more than just block rewards out of this once the dex is up and running with some real volume.
This isn't a casino where the odds are known to everyone involved. Due diligence and acting on concern is what kept me in profit through the bear market. In a bull it's the between making a lot of money and making a fucking shitload. I don't give a shit about victimhood because I'm here to make money. If it's charity you want you're in the wrong sector.

>>20779453
>>20779490

No no, there is two different people in the thread replying mate. Calm down lol

>>20778673
I provided proof. If something seems sketchy it is. Just saying I should ignore what I'm seeing does not make everything OK.
New users coming to /biz/ that just happen to post all the time without bothering to lurk even a little bit before their first post? Xsn is a smaller name in crypto and /biz/ is a smaller board so I have to call bs here.
Why would anyone care about being priced out? Aren't people saying this is going to $100? Even before this campaign the orderbooks were thin. Whales were never priced out and I've yet to see any signs of bitterness. People looking for a pnd move on and find a new one if another group has already moved in on something. They didn't become whales by laying around complaining about missed opportunities.
Wait, so xsn/posw hasn't been around three years? Maybe the amount of time they've been around is not such a good sign then if they haven't been working on anything. Or maybe you're just not really familiar with the project and just focus on a 5x on some random shitcoin you managed to catch the bottom on. That's the hallmark of a pnd. Find old projects, drum up volume and prices, half ass shill it while avoiding any discussion of the project as much as possible. In this case you're doing more harm than good. If you're just leaching off xsn as a pnd what is your exit point?
The tech is ready and will only mature further. Did you know the dex is in beta? Is it that complicated to code where trading fees go? If they have fees then they are already collecting fees. What's wrong with 1% going to nodes and 99% to devs? At least that shows its they are able to split where fees go.
Coin appreciation doesn't matter if the real moneymaker is fees from dapps, it will rise organically to match use and returns. Adoption would increase, not suffer from this.
Also, if your comment is too long you can just break your comment down across two posts. It's not uncommon to do that on 4chan. Maybe a little lurking would do you some good.

>>20779453
>>20779490
This is pretty retarded coordinated shilling.

In regards to the guy who replied to me, what am I lying about? No one can significantly answer anything about why MN owners aren't getting a cut of dex fees when it launches.

>>20779504
>7m xsn isn't enough
>stop building ever in one of the fastest markets in the world and keep investors waiting
Keep ignoring the facts.

>>20779586
They are schizoing out, can't handle criticism.
I'm going to stop posting images so this doesn't get fucked

>>20778039
>>20778151
>>20778341
Exactly.
>>20778916
I never said anything about an ICO. You're neglecting the fact that a very large portion of the coins and MNs are in the hands of the devs. In light of that, treasury releases will of course always be approved because none of the newfags with MNs can be bothered to vote. Look at the governance page for yourself. Most of the new MN holders undoubtedly use the MNaaS (likely wouldn't be able to set up their own either at home or on a VPS box). Until they require a high quorum for a vote to be valid I won't trust the voting system because it's laughably concentrated. I think the best thing they could do for the project is to do away with the MNaaS. It kills the decentralization completely and dilutes the MN holders with a sea of brainlets. Of course this is all varifiable and obvious to anyone who spent even a few hours researching the project.

>>20779569
>so much is up in the air
Such as?
>If it's about playing the victim as you call it, again it's the devs shooting themselves in the foot and you're the one crying about it.
The way I see it here...
>someone makes ridiculous insinuations about the dev team and spam them in every thread well after they've been refuted
>starts shrieking if people ignore week old spam and built new insinuations atop it
This is all an elaborate display of mental gymnastics.

Again, why would the dev team launch with no ICO in a bear market and work non-stop - bringing LN swaps down to a few clicks from a 45 minute technological process involving hard swaps on Linux and then parlaying that process to multiple chains and coin pairs - to launch a DEX that's already in open beta, capable of aggregating multiple CEX orderbooks, on the verge of having full ETH support as they work co-develop with the Raiden devs - just to say "lol nvm" at step 546/547?

>>20779612
>I provided proof. If something seems sketchy it is.
I must've missed this. Point out?
>New users coming to /biz/ that just happen to post all the time without bothering to lurk even a little bit before their first post?
What are you even trying to say here? Is there a hold time before posting?
>Why would anyone care about being priced out?
Are you kidding me? Eth sold at 14 KYS.jpg
>Whales were never priced out and I've yet to see any signs of bitterness.
Plenty of big holders sold at 600-1000, and are bitter as hell atm.
>Wait, so xsn/posw hasn't been around three years?
Team changed. X9 has not worked on this for 3 years.
>what is your exit point?
About $100
>The tech is ready and will only mature further. Did you know the dex is in beta?
Is it ready, or is it in beta? The Hydra infra is def. not ready.
>What's wrong with 1% going to nodes and 99% to devs?
Nothing. You cant suggest this to the team.
>Coin appreciation doesn't matter if the real moneymaker is fees from dapps, it will rise organically to match use and returns. Adoption would increase, not suffer from this.
Coin appreciation definitely does matter in the short-term (during development).

LOL, I'm not your servant, if you cant write concise posts, it's your loss.

>>20779956
I'd also like to add that the dev team could have easily added a tiny exchange to XSN Cloud if they were in the interest of running them.
The key aim of this DEX is to make it completely non-custodial so that it's friendly towards even US regulations in addition to offering a secure way to trade P2P direct.

>>20780017
*Can suggest.

>>20779956
Because there's a lot of money to be made from doing that and they need it to pay devs to keep working. They are people too with lives and families. You seem to think xsn is just a dex. Read some of the medium articles or their discord. The dex is just a small part of the project. If they can't figure out how to fund just the dex then how will they ever fund all the other shit? I've got a pretty good idea of how it could be done, as does anyone else with half a brain. This is assuming there's no exit scam or duping investors too. Its suspicious and I'm only assuming best case scenarios here.

>>20780017
So all you have is lies, got it. At least you were honest about that much. Kiss your sister.webm
Your loss, good luck with that pnd campaign

>>20779956
>bringing LN swaps down to a few clicks from a 45 minute technological process involving hard swaps on Linux and then parlaying that process to multiple chains and coin pairs

>making cross chain swaps seem like a difficult task and only they could do it and needed money to do so
>implying stakenet is the only fucking interoperability service
>muh bear market. money printer go brrr
>fucking lightning network man if it's not light, it aint right!

>>20779875
They do hold a lot of coins. This is nothing new. Not to this or any other crypto project. It's not some freebie-ride, where Jesus returns to earth to code for free. Regarding the MNaaS, it's either the easy way, or it's risking being DOA.
>(likely wouldn't be able to set up their own either at home or on a VPS box).
You seem to regard yourself as some grand neet-master, but sitting on a dead project with fellow incels isn't too smart.

>>20775512
>I don’t have that big balls to gamble with my stack.
They replied officially something about needing to observe phase 3 before doing so.

>>20780285
>Your loss, good luck with that pnd campaign
My loss? Lol, you lost at ~700 sat by selling.

>>20780291
Lightning swaps November 3 2018
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjuSurGkLQ
Lightning swaps in November 2 2019
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLq7xIjf_hc
Single coin trade July 23 2020
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Y4Txm5NhY
>>20780180
The development of XSN comes directly from the treasury budget (10% of block rewards), proposed by the devs, approved by the MNs in a vote.
By design, the dev team never stands to profit from exchange fees. In direct contrast to block rewards, 10% of all trading fees will be burnt.

>>20771241
FUD o logic

>>20780531
What are you trying to prove by showing those videos? That they took some lines of code and automated it... by adding in more code and some graphics? Again, for all you know that could have been done in a month lmao. Stakenet is not the only interoperability service. It's not like the LIGHTNING NETWORK is the be all and end all. It's actually pretty shit, according to most people in the space, but they've clung to the idea and have to shill it somehow. Cause of course, Stakenet solves all problems, right?

>>20780425
Not sure why you're so worked up and defensive. You should focus on the arguments people make as opposed to ones you make up yourself. You're correct that at least some concentration of coins (or tokens) in the hands of the devs happens with every project - and indeed that should happen. Just as it does with any business. Again I never argued otherwise. This still doesn't change the fact that the current governance system is broken. Which therefore causes the monetization of the product to not actually be executed the way you (and the devs) claim it be. Like I said earlier I am invested in this financially because I can see the use case, I've tested the LN swaps, and think this has a lot of potential. But I also am realistic about the flaws and never get emotionally invested the way you clearly have. Don't let your emotions cloud your judgment.

>>20780835
Show me where else you might find this level of direct interoperability.
It's an impressive thing to reduce an overtly complex process that makes a half-hour with experience down to a one-coin deposit exchange compatible with multiple coins with near-perfect swap success rates.
XSN has been constantly delivering.

I do agree that Bitcoin's implementation of Lightning Network wasn't the most elegant. That Stakenet has been able to utilize it to do one coin deposits is remarkable.

>>20780979
They aren't going to give a fuck they're just going to scream fud at you dude. They stopped replying to me entirely, their heads are too far up their own ass to care about public perception it seems

>>20774130
lmfao this shit ain't a DEX

>>20770747
but it's been tanking today when it shouldn't. we should be above 2.5k sats with what's going on. maybe I'm just bitter I missed some easy godfather BTC gains but XSN needs to bump up already to show it's not a PnD

>>20781212
Weren't we supposed to be breaking through 3k sats?? It's barely holding at 2k right now, wtf /biz/.. someone lied to me..

>>20772979
This is your brain on XSN
>second 2017
>price go up
solid reasoning not required

>>20781212
Do you have anything of substance to argue?
>>20781525
>>20781554
No stopping BTC pumps. Bitcoin pumping is bullish for XSN's entire ecosystem.
I'm still accumulating for another 5 months.

>>20779023
>>20779331
I can't decide whether this obvious shilling against XSN is a good thing or a bad thing overall.

>>20770747
buy FUND before 2023 or stay poor

>>20770747
Do I need to buy the MN to make it?
What about the tokens themselves?
Will they moon?

>>20781700
this decline hurts. feel like we're being left off the moonshot train. if this drops below 2k I might have to sell some XSN (would still be in profit so fuck it) and go at a coin going green

>>20782123
The masternode is created by having 15k XSN.
And they're coins not tokens.

hey joggers answer this: will my trades, executed on the DEX, be mirrored on CZ's stanking ass CEX with Draper's account?

>>20773791

>>20782963
starting to think this chart is complete bullshit as the coin continues to dump while all other serious alts are gearing up for moons

>>20783730
Cucks not allowed aboard the stakeship either way.
Stakeship leaving for the moon in T minus 10... 9...

>>20783974
I'll believe it when I see it. by confidence has been getting shaky. something is going on with xsn

>>20781554

>>20784036
And what, exactly, do you think has been going on?

>>20784206
kek

>>20771639
thanks anon, been waiting for < 20cents for a long time now, this gives me hope

>>20784233
shady business. there's been a lot better FUD lately that's starting to make sense, especially for why the coin has stalled and is now dumping

Wow went to sleep and thread has exploded.

>>20772716
Hydra isn't required for the price of XSN to go up........
>>20772979
This man is correct.
>>20773593
Stakenet is doing many things. The first DApp they are building is a Lightning + raiden ready DEX.
>>20773624
>>20773658
Could also be for advertising stuff / so people can't steal their work.
>>20774003
Don't worry anon $1 is nothing compared to where XSN is headed.
>>20774626
Fuck you people are retarded, things don't scale instantly. Real work needs to be done slowly. Yikes, pathetic fudders.
>>20775187
Cope.
>>20775823
Lightning + Raiden has less fees and fixes congestion. Why do you think uniswap is so fucking shit.
>>20777095
This.
>>20778039
Rope.
>>20779422
I still can't believe how far we've come.
>>20781525
>Sats go down
>Bitcoin goes up
It'll pump when it's ready.
>>20782123
See >>20782664
>>20782558
>Selling the dip
>>20784772
Fud lately has been terrible not sure what you're talking about.

FUD LATELY
>There are 3 stages to the DEX
>Stage 1, 2 and 3 (HYDRA)
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>WHY DOESN'T IT START ON STAGE 3!!!
>SCAM
>POSW
>SHADEY EXCHANGE
>BLAH BLAH BLAH WAHHHH WAHHHHHH
No stakies gonna suicide on DEX release.

i'm gonna troll biz so hard for the poor fags who didn't buy in after dex release

>>20785001
I'm with you man. Can't wait to laugh for days upon end in the retards faces.

>>20774626
We ARE in Stage 1 you mongoloid.
You speak out of your ass.
Totally clueless.

>>20784772

Enjoying the show?

>>20777883
How do you attract the best CEO to a business or the best football players to a top team?

By offering them peanuts and hot air??

Use your brain if you have one.

FUCKING LIVECOIN IS DOWN REEEEEEEEEEEE

Don't worry it'll come back up.