/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20752533
Checked.

If the devs deliver this will be huge.

>>20752908
If the devs don’t deliver my asshole will be huge.

>>20752533
Checked. 160k iron hands

POSW lmao. I remember this scam. The shills made off with a lot of money before crashing 99%

>>20754271
Hey Skadoosh

if dex fees dont come to node owners until phase 3, why would i be interested in holding a node for 3+ years while devs collect all fees?

>>20754271
Aweee did somebody miss out on xsn already, maybe you left xsn for a scam coin and lost all ur cash ;((... come here baby lemme put some baby powder on your ass, it’ll relieve the irritation

XSN on sale ATM, sweet.

>>20754967

Cause your broke ass won't be able to afford a MN to collect the fees by then

>>20755267
give me a legitimate answer you retard

lets say there's 100m volume making devs 150k/day. what's their incentive to hustle and get phase 3 out and lose those fees by splitting it to node owners

>>20755466
lol at digits and id

>>20755466
Fascinating point, spokocum

You lucky fucking niggers who get to buy at this price just because there are still bitches who dump their investments and buy into big daddy BTC everytime it stands up. fucking cowards. i hope they never make it

>>20755466
Why would they settle at that figure when, if that's what they can earn at stage 1, imagine what they could earn at stage 3.

Bezos didn't quit 10 years ago, and he won't quit now.

Nor will anyone who is a stakenet stakeholder. The future is ours.

>>20755466
>cum ID
>devil dubs
yeah, this guys a faggot.
LINK rank 1
XSN rank 2

>>20755466
right now most people are just playing the phase 1 release timeline. no official date released so mostly just speculation on how close we are and price level post release.

we'll see a pump at that point, and maybe a dump as well as people realize it's not shipping with raiden integrated.

then, sometime in the fall, raiden will release. that's when the real finn begins.

as a node holder, I can still make good money if I'm getting my block rewards and price is $2.

ROI is 15% for node operators right now. hard to complain about that.

>>20754967
Youre right. Should just leave it to those capable of copy and paste terminal command line. Youll get lucky one of these decades.

Can't see too much price movement with XSN atm.
I think it will hold around 2k sats.
It won't hold above 3k sats people will just sell and bring it back down.
It makes no sense to see sell orders over 10k+ xsn....
WTF don't people understand XSN will be over $1 after public release?
Just hold and wait for public release. Than BOOM.
Public release might be fucking taking too long but the wait will be worth it.
The guys at XSN are making great progress behind the scenes.

>>20759025
public release is right around the corner, see >>20757551


it wont launch with Raiden though. That will probably take another few months. but depending on how successful the initial release is Raiden alone might be enough to send this thing to $5. im not kidding, or being foolishly optimistic. If raiden works as smooth as the current DEX beta than we are going to $1 billion + MC MININUM. we will be way bigger than uniswap.

All of this will happen by end of year. all you have to do is hold.

>>20757741
Based.
>>20754271
LMAO.
>>20757551
Are they going to make it more normie friendly?

>>20759099
Checked.
>uniswap
Fuck that congestion.

>>20759099
checked.
Atm I make over $200 a week income on my MN's.
Imagine when its over $1...
No need to sell any of my MN's ever.
Only cash in the weekly income.

>>20759099
Checked but it WILL launch with Raiden.

>>20758157
>I can still make good money if I'm getting my block rewards and price is $2.
>ROI is 15%
Node operator you mean staking? How much could you do?

>>20755466
>lets say there's 100m volume making devs 150k/day. what's their incentive to hustle and get phase 3 out and lose those fees by splitting it to node owners
this point is very crutucal and obv no one answered that.

''why bezos didn't quit amazon''... low iq seething answers

>>20759927
>crutical-
typo

>>20759927
Join the discord and ask the Devs directly anon

>>20759903
Right now 1 masternode has a ROI of 16%. It's on the cloud website.

Holy shit I can't wait for these threads to die. It's been almost 2 years right? I think 3 if you include POSW cause that was for sure '17.

Lightning dex isn't going anywhere. There wasn't hype for it in 2017, and there isn't now lmao. It's the stupidest thing ever. No one's talking about it, cause it's fucking shit lads. Have a look at FTX's upcoming dex, you can get fees paid through that also. And it'll probably be really fucking popular too. That's just one. There's going to be fucking loads of dex's coming up in the next couple of years, from big players. No name partnership dex's aren't going to get big business.

Enjoy

>>20759964
>>20759964
why cannot dex fees go to MN holders as soon as possible? Scammy behaviour

>>20759927
>and obv no one answered
Its been answered. This fud has been copypasted 30x over, and all it has to go off of is what some random anon ~thinks~ the dev team might pull, which is a move so retarded its like Bill Gates going to a Microsoft product launch and saying "it's not our future lol buy sony apple"

>>20760273
its already working and public release is around the corner lol. shill your shit somewhere else

can these copypasted DEX's swap interchain over the lightning network?

MUH partnerships MUH big business

lol you have no idea what this project is about, stick to shiny shitcoins lad

>>20760273
You're going to be waiting a long fucking time kek, you should have bought the dip

See you in the nostaker suicide general next year

>>20760343
>launch with no ICO and build a community from the ground up during the entire bear market
>spend 2-3 years getting hardening LN swaps and getting the process down to an instant one with a few button taps from overtly technical and time-consuming hard-swaps on Linux
>expand upon that hardened process by bringing it to multiple coin pairs all the while doing rigorous testing day in and day out for a year
>slowly begin to demonstrate the effects of their work and invite the wider crypto community to test the superiority of LN swaps for themselves
>begin collaborating with the Raiden devs
>lay out an ambitious post-launch roadmap
...
>then pull an exit scam after delivering for almost 3 years non-stop - causing the MN network to fall apart
That makes zero sense.

>>20760497
>That makes zero sense.

Why MN holders dont get the fees as soon as possible?

>>20761157
>Why MN holders dont get the fees as soon as possible?
Seconded. This needs to be answered. If I'm satisfied with the answer, I'll buy 2 nodes from my link stack, otherwise it's just another scam.

>>20761157
>>20761368
Networks don't get built in a day. It will start of as HUBs (masternodes), then move through stage 2 and then stage 3 (hydra nodes).

>>20761427
There's 2.5k masternodes if they wanted to run the dex through them they could

>>20752533
200K here , feel comfy

>>20761807
Fucking nice.

>>20761807
Nice

>>20761456
>There's 2.5k masternodes if they wanted to run the dex through them they could
this

>>20760273
three words; first mover advantage.

it's the first DeX that allows low fee trustless exchange, and could well be the first DeX ever to allow for btc-eth exchange.

say what you will about other products, they're still theoretical. this DeX is getting released this quarter, and eth/erc pairs will be available by year end. no other platform will allow for as diverse a product offering, let alone in such a cost effective manner.

Why MN holders dont get the fees as soon as possible?

>>20762260
Well said. I honestly believe the DEX will be release by end of August, let's see what happens.

>>20762325

>>20752533
yet can only acquire it via some whack ass exchange. yay.

>>20761157
the architecture and scaling of the platform needs to come first.

will be much easier to hand over processing to master nodes once trade volume is decentralized.

at first most liquidity will come from aggregators pulling from cexes. would be pointless to deploy processing to master nodes while the bottleneck is the aggregators.

to effectively decentralize further and actually leverage master nodes properly you need to remove aggregators as your bottleneck to liquidity. long term the goal is to host liquidity in the DeX in a decentralized manner, at which point master nodes become much more valuable as they act not only as settlement for trades, but also a consensus mechanism for liquidity providers who are submitting liquidity directly to the DeX.

until this occurs, however, markets will be largely dependent on a handful of aggregators, pulling order books from binance or whomever. therefore leveraging master nodes wouldn't actually provide much in the way of network benefits, but would still introduce unnecessary complication into the phase 1 implementation of the platform.

>>20762325
X9 tends to start lean, perfect on a small scale, then move up to progressively bigger scales.
Lightning swaps started exclusively with XSN/LTC at a small scale. Testing was rigorous. By the end of it, their work became almost instantly transferrable to every other coin LN compatible coin. BTC/LTC was the next critical one (large scale)

>>20762403
pure fud.

livecoin has been around for years. its reliable and (reasonably) secure, and besides if you really don't want to set up an account etc you can just request beta access to the DeX then order your xsn through there.

it'll pull liquidity directly from livecoin, but you won't have to establish a livecoin account; the aggregators will just pull the orders for you via api.

>>20762340
3 years and the devs haven't released a single product. Also, even if the DEX is released, then the nodes are still pointless. We don't even know how many years phase 2-3 will take.

>>20762548
They have released cloud, TPoS, XSN Core and a few other small things. DEX/MCLW is incredible btw. Very smooth and responsive.

>>20762499
is this even an ERC-20, what wallet do I store it in even, fuckit, im gonna grab a bag just incase the devs deliver.

>>20762601
It's not a token nor part of ETH. XSN is it's OWN blockchain COIN. You store it in XSN addresses.

>>20762610
make it stack?

>>20762838
1 Masternode is enough to make it. You need 15000XSN to make a masternode.

>>20762578
>cloud
How is this different from a VPS? It's just another buzzword that replaced VPS lol

>>20762858
14.6% return pa on a masternode, what dogshit...

Why shouldnt I just stake any number of other shitcoins.

>>20762922
>14.6% PA
>Shit
Are you retarded?

Also you do understand what trading fees means in stage 3 (hydra)?

>>20762922
true XSN is an absolute scam, I think they cooperate with livecoin couldn't withdraw my money and after reporting the issue to support they basically just said thank you the issue is resolved. guess what livecoin has my coins to this day

>>20762969
Proof? I only thing livecoin wouldn't let me withdraw is LINK (the box is greyed out).

>>20762969
I’m on the edge about livecoin as well but proof or it didn’t happen

>>20763020
how much LINK are we talking about?

>>20763048
The amount doesn't matter in this case. Livecoin has the withdraw button greyed out for LINK, they don't let you withdraw. I haven't had any issues withdrawing XSN though.

>>20763020
I won't reveal my information on a basket weaving mongoloid forum but go ahead buy it at your own risk i don't care

>>20752533
What I wonder is if I set aside 3600$ for 15000 XSN to run MNaaS, will there be any penalties for breaking that masternode down when I am ready to cash out?

>>20759967
>as a node holder, I can still make good money if I'm getting my block rewards and price is $2.
>ROI is 15% for node operators right now. hard to complain about that.

per .io:
ROI: 0.04% per day on the 15,000XSN needed to establish MNaaS

>>20763083
No, you can turn off and breakdown your nodes at any time.

>>20762969
lol what a load of absolute bullshit, i have sent 10's of thousands of dollars to and from livecoin over the years without issue

re set your IP and start posting some different fud blockcuck

>>20763107
My bad, just checked it is
14.5% P.A

>>20763109
agreed, never had any problems with livecoin.
It's only going crazy when they start maintenance! this reminds me of cryptopia time ...
a little while and then that is also done!
#beaxy
#stakenet DEX

>>20763072
Lol you’re full lol of shit keep fuding though :) the higher the price goes against FUD the more we moon

>>20763294
fudding just means XSN is gonna make it - the recent Link FUD has been epic. Some dude commissioned a long report + bought ads to distribute it

Livecoin = 1way. Wanna buy xsn? No problem just hand over some btc. Wanna sell? Go right ahead. Have fun getting your btc from livecoin.

>>20757741
I'm not gay my boyfriend is

But hey, what do you expect from a politician and a bankster?

>>20763629
I withdrew 4 BTC out of Livecoin last friday, what are you talking about?

>>20763646
Gay
>>20763660
What the fuck are you smoking anon?