/biz/ - Business & Finance

Fuck Chyna.

>>20722524
We could all be enjoying summer right now if some idiot chinese person didn’t eat a bat.

clack clack clack

When does the normie fomo into silver start? Hopefully not until it's over $100/oz

AAPL puts before earnings

>>20722590
IV crush

DENN

Buy gold, silver, gold miners, and silver miners before you get wiped out. All dollar-denominated assets are going to zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY

>>20722571
I am waiting for TSLA zoomers to start talking about their sick silver plays. Because those are the biggest retards and whales that will be the target of everything inflicting maximum pain.
Then I am selling all of my remaining silver calls.

>>20722524
setting alarm for 4am stat. Pray for my NAK bags fgts. God bless you all

>>20722571
I bought Friday. So expect it to dump soon

>>20722508
>there is no alternative
>hyperinflation to Zimbabwe levels is the only option other than defaulting
nah, you speak in absolutes that make your points just hyperbolic bullshit

Countries that issue debt in the currency that they also print have more control over their debt and currency than you seem to realize. 1970's type inflation is much more likely than your THE SKY IS FALLING shit.

when did you become so arrogant and unreasonable? It's very annoying.

>>20722620
>going to zero
see it's bullshit like this, fuckoff with your unnecessary hype. Most of us HAVE metals and mining exposure.

>>20722638
TSLA normies are not buying silver, besides lots of retards bought WKHS at $5 and made it big.

>stop watching futures to watch an hour long presentation about the development of the US tank destroyer branch in WW2 by tank Jesus
>check back at futures
>SILVER $24
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOM

TSM puts or calls?

Gold and silver puts finally on the menu soon

>>20722620

(P. S., To buy gold miners on the stock market, buy the GDXJ; to buy silver miners, buy the SILJ.)

>>20722620
I have 1 problem with this.

When the March crash happened, EVERYTHING dropped.

Crytpo, PM's, commodities & equities.

In fact, they only thing that didn't was Food & Water.

What makes PM's worth it?

>>20722676
Link that presentation plz

>>20722681
puts short term and calls long term

>>20722670
They will. They will absolutely be confident that they know better than anyone else because of TSLA's ability to rise despite being mainly a tax credit consumer.
The regular analog would be CSNBC boomers. They are already talking about gold, waiting for silver.
>>20722695
PM's are a response to the inevitable inflation from the Fed to counteract deflation. There are autists that will tell you that PM's are good in deflation and that isn't true in any bear market other than the grand daddy of them, the great depression.

>>20722620
this falls apart when everyone in the world is also printing money and is still treating US dollar as a reserve

>>20722695

Historically speaking, PMs and miners have not crashed on the second leg down of a stock market crash. For example, in the Great Depression, Homestake Mining, the ancestor of Barrick Gold, which is in the GDX, was going up 90% just as the Dow was crashing 90%. All in all, Homestake went up 500%.

https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/

Additionally, you have to consider the fundamentals at work here. The PM market, which has been manipulated for years via paper derivatives, is now becoming unmanipulated. A short squeeze is now underway, and a thing called the COMEX, which is where the manipulation takes place, is in danger of imminent default. It all started when the billionaire Eric Sprott demanded actual physical delivery of one tenth of the world's annual silver supply. Silver jumped from $19 to $23 almost overnight. He has stuck the knife into the bankers and they are fleeing in terror. Four banks are losing $280 million for every dollar silver goes up by. Everything which you need to know is in the links below. I especially recommend watching the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY

https://twitter.com/MacleodFinance/status/1285299968446783488

https://kingworldnews.com/silver-short-squeeze-alert-sprott-silver-trust-to-purchase-1-5-billion-of-physical-silver-a-jaw-dropping-8-8-of-annual-global-production/

https://www.goldmoney.com/research/market-updates/silver-scintillates

https://kingworldnews.com/this-is-the-real-reason-why-silver-is-up-over-6-today-plus-gold-sees-massive-breakout/

>>20722688
JDST and DUST would be decent buys too. Thankfully been buying into them as gold was going up.

>>20722688
yeah, if you want to get btfo it is

>>20722695
Gold dropped during the GFC because banks were literally mass liquidating in a fire sale of anything they could move. As soon as that ended it immediately spiked back up, faster than even the tech giants.

At this point, I’m just going to ignore the faggot hyping his boomer rocks.
I’m not saying the point is invalid but you’re just fear mongering. I don’t care if I’m wrong, it’s wrong that you should be playing out your post to fear monger people into buying miners and PMs because you think everything is going to fall on its ass.

Dollar printing? Yeah, so is everyone else. It’s a world reserve currency. Don’t disregard that compared to the Euro, pretty much everything is declining. When the market crashed, everything crashed and media played the corona card day after day for months on end to add onto the amount of people who refuse to do as they were told and stay home.
The only real gripe I have is that faggot from Minnesota sparking BLM. If that motherfucker simply wasn’t a retard, we wouldn’t have clusters of people in the streets to make things worse.

>>20722783

The rest of the world has been dumping treasuries and hoarding gold since 2008 in anticipation of precisely what is going on right now. When they see that the U. S. needs to print tens of trillions simply to keep the ponzi-scheme propped up for a few more months, and that that is only the beginning, they have no reason to hold dollars any more.

>>20722804
So the BIG BRAIN play here is Sprott's physical gold and silver trust, right?

are we going to dump today, looks alot like 6/11

>>20722845
Don’t copy and paste responses.

MY MONEY MY MOTHERFUCKING MONEY
DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>20722676
based boomer

>>20722653
he is right about every bullshit institution being on thin ice even though hes just stirring FOMO

>>20722783
>loses 0.5% confidence every 24 hours for the next 6 months
the US has come to its end, our military is the only thing keeping the dollar from dropping 50% overnight

>>20722857

Yes. Never buy GLD or SLV, but, as for the Sprott trust, Rick Rule says that it is safe, and Rick Rule is extremely trustworthy. But try to diversify. If you can, some mining stocks, some coins in your hand, some bullion held in vaults in as many different countries as possible (see GoldMoney and BullionVault), etc.

i want to get calls on intel but its hard justifying them since amd is actually eating into intels market share and intel being 6 months behind in tech isnt a great signal either. theta will destroy these calls before anything exciting happens.

>>20722722
https://youtu.be/7ho8TU_JpoI

My president

>>20722888

That's not a copy and pasted response. If you are talking about >>20722508 from the last thread, look at it. The wording is completely different.

ASDADSDADSDASDASDADS

>>20722930
>Never buy GLD or SLV
What conspiracy theory is this?

>>20722943
not my president.

>>20722930
>diversify from gold into more gold
right now I'm holding the sprott trust, some various mining pennystocks like LIO and PMG, plus ZGJ, and also defense, industry and tech

The reason why gold and silver are mooning is because of the tension between US and China
As soon as dooomer boomers realize it’s just a nothing burger, PMs will go back down and stocks will keep rising.

>>20722964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD6yjimNno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n665orfBOqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGacihXJ82I

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Silver-Short-Short-Squeeze-Lifetime/dp/B08BDZ5H6K

>>20722987
>The reason why gold and silver are mooning is because of the tension between US and China
The DXY slide would make no sense then.

>>20723003
>implying I am watching goldboomer videos
GLD and SLV have the actual metal as part of their holdings. What meandering doomer conspiracy is this?

>>20723011
US is printing money so the value of their currency is going down
Europe is printing too but just slightly less

>>20722987
It isn't a nothing burger this time though. Even when Biden inevitably wins, both sides will be anti-China. Which is good, because we're basically watching a replay of WW2, where an expansionist totalitarian empire building Asian rising power decides to fight America in the pacific until America drowns them in weight of carriers

>>20722987

This is not the reason. In fact, the authorities are raising tensions with foreigners precisely in order to direct anger away from themselves. It is their greed and incompetence which is responsible for the crisis. I will repeat what I said in the last thread. "Gold and silver went down after 2011 because the Fed was able to convince everybody, lyingly, that they could eventually raise interest-rates. They tried to do so in late 2018; allowed yields to rise to a mere 3%, and the market immediately collapsed from 26,500 to 22,500. Demonstrated that they could not do it. That's when the bull market in gold began, and it has not stopped since. People have been buying gold since that point because they could see that the system _must_ collapse.

The reason why stocks are in such a bubble is artificially low interest-rates. But the bubble is so large now that tens of trillions in Q. E. are going to be needed to maintain it. You can't even have 1% yields now without crashing the market. We saw that in March."

>>20723050
>part of
That's the argument, there will be a run on COMEX at some point because GLD and SLV represent way more bullion than actually exists in the account.

>>20723050

Virtually every prominent person in the PM community will tell you not to buy GLD and SLV. Chris Marcus, inquiring how many owners there are to each paper ounce of silver, has never got an answer smaller than 500. But if you want to go against what every single person who knows this industry says, then that is upon your own head. The information is all in the links. Choose to make use of it or not. >>20723003

>>20723113
so why not just buy silver bars

CHA CHING!

the flood gates will open on the run on silver

>>20723084
This means nothing. That's the whole point of derivatives. Bets on bets on bets that are much bigger than the stock market.

>IT'S ALL COMIN DOWN MAN. ITS ALL COMIN DOWN

Can we stop humoring the clearly homeless man using his hour of internet time at the public library to doompost on biz

>>20723113
Can you get a trip so people can block you already?
>>20723084
They have auditing procedures to verify that it matches its NAV. Unless you mean this same silver is leveraged to paper traders.

>>20722617
Soon!

>>20722524
The truth is about /smg/ is nobody that is still around wants to hear about a market crash or a big dump because so many of you have a lot invested in the market, and I dont blame you for getting angry at such claims.

But guess what the definition of that is? Cope. You are all coping. This is the end of a glorious bull run, but the time is nearing its end. Keep playing the denial card, just don't be the ones left with the bags. See you tomorrow my fellow friends.

Soon the value of gold and silver is going to drop and you are going to see articles of people in disbelief that the dollar is getting stronger with no inflation issues. Then all the precious metal bagholders are going to get wrecked. And you know it isn't hard to even see why this is going up happen, but brainlets are always a strategy or two behind.

>>20723204

Yes. When every single prediction which a person has made comes true, then they must be completely insane. >>20597543 >>20603169 >>20675348. https://i.warosu.org/biz/thread/19669109

>>20723273
It's funny. I didn't mention any specific thing, or any specific person, but you knew immediately

>>20723271
https://m.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/global-stocks-on-defensive-as-uschina-tensions-spook-investors-2241354

>>20723204
im too tired to just shill semiconductors, buying into gold/silver is dated boomer-thinking when our reality is closer to brave new world than some more obvious dystopian world.
just store your money in the company that supplies the spice

>>20723271

Explain how you think that this can possibly happen. Why would the dollar go up? Why would anybody take on the currency of a nation which is caught in a debt-trap, and must print tens of trillions simply to prop up its asset-bubble ponzi-scheme for a few more months? Why has the whole world been dumping treasuries and buying gold since 2008?

>>20723263
Hi fren! Long Denny's.

>Silver futures up 6%
Damn I wish I bought more calls. I bought some contracts Thursday but got spooked by the pullback that day. Could have tripled some money if I doubled down Friday.

>>20723309
Let's say you are right and in the short term the dollar falls. What then happens? US exports become cheaper and countries buy more of them boosting gdp.

>>20723387
options dont work cuz people wont buy them from you for what you want them too

u think silver going up make you money but it ends up just staying the same and ur contracts lose value some how


it only starts going up once its like ridiculously higher

>>20723208
>They have auditing procedures
If you believe in auditing, oversight, or any other safeguard that is supposed to stop fraud, you're never going to make it. Assume that everyone is cooking the books all the time and that regulators take the bribes to overlook it every time. Nowadays, they mostly just use lobbying to get rules changed so that the scams they're running are legal anyway.

>>20723316
From 2010 to late 2019 the dollar was going up or flat. So what you say isn't true. What hurt the dollar in 2019 wasn't the virus but the trade war.

>>20723410

If the dollar gets trashed, the bond market crashes; and the bond market is even bigger than the stock market. A bond market crash means either default or hyperinflation. If nobody wants to buy treasuries any more, than the U. S. _must monetize its debt. Yields have to stay below 1% simply to pay for the U. S. budget and keep the whole system from collapsing. Can you imagine how much money will have to be printed in order to monetize the debt? Tens of trillions? Hundreds of trillions? It is a vicious cycle which must end in the destruction of the currency itself. The more money that is printed, the more worthless the dollar becomes, the greater the bond-market crash becomes, the more the Fed has to print to keep yields down, ad infinitum.

>>20723439
You do the same as anything else involving options/futures. You buy when the volatility is low, you sell when its high. Tomorrow is going to be awful to buy calls and absolutely the kind of rookie mistake new retail would make. Like buying calls/puts and holding through earnings like the TSLA retards yesterday. The IV squeeze is going to be painful.

>>20723263
I forgot to add there's a term for it, it's called a hot hand fallacy, don't get too greedy folks.

>>20723439
Options are fine if you play them right. So long as the price of silver is increasing more than the theta cost you make money. Just don't be an idiot who bagholds options and you make money. I'm probably going to sell most of my options tomorrow at open and wait for a pullback (which might never come, but I still made money).

>>20723501

The reason why the dollar went up from '11 to '19 is for the reasons explained in this post. >>20723064 People believed the lies of the Fed that they really could normalize interest-rates. In late 2018, they attempted to do that and the whole system began to collapse at breakneck speed. The Fed was forced to re-start Q. E., and that's when the bull market in gold began. Now everybody can see that the dollar is doomed. Nobody wants it.

>>20723271
Agree with this. Gold and silver will make many people very unhappy soon

>>20723513
>TSLA retards yesterday
*last week

>>20723273
Post portfolio or fuck off with the shilling of YOUR mining stocks. I'm up a shitload on mine but you spam every thread with YOURS and it's something most people probably read over at this point.

>>20723263
I'm absolutely aware the system could collapse again at any time and I'm ready to BUY THE DIP

>>20723512
This wall is text is ridiculous. Like now that interest rates are so low, they have to stay that way? No way. The US still had a lot of debt last year when interest rates were much higher. The sky didn't fall.

>tfw keep getting banned from Stocktwits

>>20723548
Gold is a hedge against the economic strength of the planet. Growth kills the gold investor.

buying crypto rn desu

>>20723602
stop patronizing that place. is brain poison. and not in the cute way.

>>20723572
There's been a surge of genuinely mentally ill people who think they are savant-geniuses on this general. This place isn't really worth browsing on weekends.

another bull flag forming bros ?

>>20723613
The bond market needs to be allowed space to breathe. Other than this obnoxious doomer zoomer and his endless reposts without posting portfolio I think the worst case scenario if this really does become a problem is the ghost of Volcker rips the market (and PM's) a new one. None of my gold and silver calls are far out for that very reason.

>>20723628
Where else are we going to go? I read all the stocktwits posts for the companies I'm investing in.

>>20723680
>stocktwits
Reddit for divorced dad bagholders.

Yeah god forbid the bond market "crashes" and real yields stop being negative. Oh no, what would we do?

I have 10k in cash that I don't really need. What the fuck should I buy here? I'm too late to get silver, right?

>>20723671
Yeah people seem to think gold is special. It isn't. Just another possibility to trade. If it hits a record and then you buy, then it is the same as buying a stock high.

>>20723613
Growth has to be real and offset the currency devaluation though. The economy is growing only compared to the crash, not to the beginning of the year. That gives PM a leg to keep running up, though I don't think it's going to be as amazing as the PM shills think it will be.

>>20723728
Buy the bank stocks like Citigroup. They should recover in the next three months and turn your 10k into 15k. Or buy your meme stocks and lose it all.

>>20723728
Oil, palladium.

Also, FLIR calls.

>>20723713
Bond market actually fuels growth and is like 25% larger than the stock market even now. If you need to sacrifice one for the sake of the other, you bleed the speculators dry every time.

>>20723572

>>Like now that interest rates are so low, they have to stay that way? No way.

As I showed here, >>20723064 the whole system crashed in late 2018 when yields went even to 3%. The Fed was forced to re-start Q. E. again to drive yields down. And that was before the recent printing of another 7 trillion, and the outcome of the lockdowns. The economy is substantially weaker now. Real unemployment is 40% (see John Williams of Shadowstats), P. E. ratios are unprecedented--the Everything Bubble is simply colossal. Stocks are looking shaky right now while yields are at a pitiful 0.589%. Can you imagine what would happen if they went to 1%? 2%? Also, the debt is so enormous now that it can only be serviced if yields stay minuscule. There is simply no way to allow them to go up now without causing everything to tumble down, both in respect to social programmes, and the stock market and housing bubbles.

>>20723671

It is impossible for us to do what Volcker did in the 80s without plunging into a Greater Depression. You don't understand how much worse things are now than they were then, both with respect to the size of the debt, and the enormousness of the asset-bubbles.

>>20723734
A temporary economic event is going to be priced in regardless. Only thing holding it back is the length of temporary. Once that is known it all goes back to how it was. Last I checked new home sales were still hitting records.

>>20723728

No. You are not too late at all. Buy gold, buy silver, buy the GDXJ, buy the SILJ. We are just getting started in this bull market.

I’ll ask you guys cause I like the cut of your jibs. I’m about to buy a house; got a loan lined up at 2.875% 30 year fixed. Should I buy it now or wait?

>>20723848
Insufficient data for a meaningful response.

>>20722804
Thanks for the info.

I've got to read more into that. Looks like these trusts are fucked.

>>20723818
New home sales are increasing because people who weren't house shopping March-May are coming out of the woodworks to find a house now. Plus the low as fuck interest rates makes it really attractive to buy now. If Congress unplugs life support I wonder what the market will look like then.

This dedicated PMschizo is making me more convinced to start selling all of my ITM SLV calls tomorrow.
>>20723848
How much can you put down as a down payment (% is fine)?

>>20723836
Might get Citigroup like another anon said, but I think I'll get some silver. Thanks for the advice though. Where the fuck do I buy silver at fair prices?

>>20723848
if u take out a loan youre a normy
jews are gonna make you work the rest of your life

only buy a house u can buy with cash

>>20723848
Kek

>>20723885
The people buying houses still have their jobs. The media speaks of a divided economy and that is true. You have the people that this crisis has hurt really bad and the people that this crisis has actually helped them out.

>>20723903

If you buy SILJ on the stock market, you won't pay any premiums. SILJ offers 3x leverage to the price of silver, so that you can simply cash in your gains in SILJ for bullion when the time is right. But everybody should have some bullion in case of a sudden crisis, or in case the mines get nationalized. /pmg/ has a good list of links for bullion dealers.

>>20723886
50%

>>20723886
>This dedicated PMschizo is making me more convinced to start selling all of my ITM SLV calls tomorrow.
I'm basically all-in mining stocks myself and he's scaring me. Guy seriously needs to learn how to sell something and not just spam something.

>>20723904
>raises capital with the housing market
nuthin personell kid

>>20723886

Just browsing through your posts and I see that only one of them contains anything of substance, i. e. where you claimed here >>20723671 that the U. S. can do now what Volcker did in the 80s; a thing which, owing to the size of the debt, and the enormousness of the asset-bubbles, is obviously impossible at the present time. Other than that, all you have done is hurl mindless abuse. Your words speak for themselves.

>>20723848
If you're one of those normies with a sub 5% down payment, don't bother.

>>20722524
Seriously if you don't buy MO (Altria) before earnings you are a huge fucking faggot who needs to be shot and killed next to a ditch. Screenshot this post before a stock that pays a 8% dividend goes on a 70+% tear because everyone is freaked out as fuck and is smoking like 10 packs of cigarettes a day. This is like buying a ticket to free money.

Also looking at HOG (Motorcycles shock boom because everyone wants to drive alone and stay away from people also helmets protect against Corona) and MCD (chart screams 220 a share or 10% run up)

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>>20723943
Yeah let's lose our money 3x as fast and deal with a decaying derivative. Sure great suggestion you tard.

>>20723978

I'd love you to show me where you lifted a finger yourself to convince people to buy mining stocks. Almost nobody talked about gold, silver, or miners in these threads even a few weeks ago, so, if you actually did try before now you evidently failed; and if you didn't try before now then you simply didn't give enough of a damn about people to do so.

>>20723602
Just stay here, anon

>>20723985
Get a trip
>>20723978
Very much shoeshine boy vibes from him.
>>20723971
That seems pretty good if you have that much capital on hand but the information is still incomplete. How much you earn, what are your savings, what are your liabilities, what are your career/life plans (rent vs. mortgage is a neverending debate), etc. Just don't buy a house if there are negative interest rates. A lot of people are going to get hosed by that if it happens.
That said that is actually a pretty decent fixed rate, if not anything spectacular.

>>20724048

SILJ is a mining index, not a "derivative." That's SLV and GLD. SILJ is 10% First Majestic Silver, 10% Pan American Silver, 10% Hecla Mining, etc., etc. GDXJ and SILJ are to the miners what the QQQ is to the tech stocks.

>>20723602
Let me guess, you were bearish on a ticker.

>>20724021
I have traded the MO a couple times successfully before but I'm a little hesitant on account of that long term bearish channel is has been stuck in since 2017. Minor recent tweak to trading strat has been to stop trading stuff in long term downwards moves like that. You might be right about them in short term though, maybe even reversal pending if they really get things together with the sales numbers. I'll make sure to check their earnings on Tuesday.

Look guys, stop replying to the SLV and GLD FUDposter who has no real substance to back up their claims and has shown no real stake in any of the shit they shill. If you're making money off SLV/GLD, you can continue to do so especially if you are in the options market for them because they have liquidity and bid/ask spreads comparable to SPY which cannot be said for miners.

Silver holding $24.25 comfortably

>>20724071
I like your talks about fundamentals and shit like that but you can't just spam your mining stocks, key word "yours", without pissing off other people in other stocks. And honestly you should have to post portfolio at this point.

>>20724166
options cant earn you money its impossible i already explained this

if you make a put and it goes down you still dont earn money because the contract is worth the same as before

its a lose lose proposition

Anybody ever buy OPK? Seems like a good yolo

>>20724218
Wat

>>20724209
Spot or futures ? Which is better to keep an eye on anyways they seem to do essentially the same thing but are just like half a dollar off of each other

>>20724213

Kindly show me a single place either in this thread or the last one where I recommended a specific mining stock. I did show that my mining stocks had doubled in a month in one thread several days ago, simply in order to add to my credibility. That is all.

>>20724232
ya i had a stock that i bought like 8 put contracts on it was like $14.26 a share

it went down to $13 and my contracts were crabbing

so then it went back up to $13.50 and now my contracts are negative

this is a 14$ strike put

>>20724021
HOG....Only white boomers buy those....and they're all staying inside. PUTS.

>>20724261
Congratulations, you don't understand how implied volatility or time decay works, you dumb fuck.

>>20724218
I thought we banned this fucking smoothbrain gookposter for good, guess we got to report again

>>20724243
Post portfolio

>>20724279
call it whatever you want time decay time warp

point is, options dont work.

you cant make money from a lose lose proposition

>>20724281
good. think i care?

tfw we will never ever have real mods that ban idiots

This shits hilarious All risk off Assets are mooning and I’m balls deep in stocks I’m about to get completely wrecked aren’t I, bogged again

I never came here until yesterday. Never bought SLV but just bought 300 USD SILJ. Can I flip this in a week or two?

>>20724296
Sounds like writing options is guaranteed 100% money then, start selling people puts.

How do you guys determine what strike price of the option that you'd be buying?

>>20724296
Are you the same kpop spammer that was asking what futures were on the last thread?

>>20723713

You don't understand what a bond market crash implies. A bond market crash means that people stop buying bonds, which means that yields should go up, yes. But, as I just said, yields _can't_ be allowed to go up; because, even if they go to a mere 1 or 2%, they will crash the whole system at this point. >>20723064 That means that the government will have to monetize every part of the bond market that foreigners don't actually borrow. The more the government monetizes, the more worthless the dollar becomes, the less foreigners want to buy bonds, ad infinitum, in a vicious circle.

>>20724336
Throw a coin

>>20724235
Sep 20 contract futures

>>20724296
>good. think i care?
Yeah you probably do lol. Read up on options before you make dumbass decisions, it's laughable you lost money on that you clearly have no idea what you're doing and you're clearly not well liked here

>>20724296
I want all of these girls to savagely rape me to death

>>20724296
You're a fucking retard mate

>>20724377
i succesfully predicted a 1$ drop on a 14$ stock and i made no profit from it because options suck

youre the loser you wouldnt have made money off it either

bitch

>clearly not well liked here

how creative dude

every board ive visited for the last 10 years overwhelmingly hated me

you think i dont know this by now?

>>20724095
Anything that is 3x leverage is basically a derivative.

Has anybody here paid for a COVID test? OPK is literally selling their tests to the NFL and has other contracts as well. This shit will moon.

>>20724336
Depends on too many factors anon. Do i think this is a short or long term play ? How much am i willing to spend on this trade ? How expensive are the options ? Too many things come into play here

Futures still green ;)

Ignore the schizo until he posts portfolio or its a pajeet PnDer.
>>20724336
There are options calculators. The only problem is that predicting future IV is trying to predict the future.

>>20724412

No, it is simply the case that these companies become so much more valuable by a rise in the price of the underlying metal that they offer 3x leverage or more. Many companies in SILJ have enormous quantities of silver in the ground which are not profitable to mine now, but which will become so as the price of silver rises. First Majestic Silver went up 150x in the '01-'11 silver bull market, and that sort of thing is commonplace for junior miners.

>>20724409
If you think an option price is not fair then execute it!

Why do I have a feeling people are more interested in the dollar index than stock futures....

>>20724409
>youre the loser you wouldnt have made money off it either
Yeah you're right because i wouldn't have wasted my money on a options contract that likely never changed in price because either it was already about to expire or there was no liquidity in the market. Read up on implied volatility, open interest, and theta on options before getting into them like an idiot. You deserved to lose that money even if you predicted the direction the stock was going.

>>20724470
Because everyone says futures don't matter until an hour before open.

Are the futures being green good for SILJ? Asking for a fren.

>>20724504
quite

>>20724488
>Read up on implied volatility, open interest, and theta on options

nah im good

i dont like this method of gambling based on retards being there to buy my option from me

id rather bet 5$ and get 5$ return if it goes down by a certain date

>>20724504

What matters for SILJ, above all, is the price of silver. That has soared today; so SILJ is going much higher for those who have already got in, even if they only bought as recently as Friday.

>>20724543
Is it too late to get in tomorrow?

>>20724543
Based. I bought at 15.15. Could have got it at 15 flat had I waited like half an hour.

>>20724529
Typically its algos that buy those contracts from you. If you predicted that type of move in a stock and had puts in a liquid market then you could have easily 300%+ your investment. Have fun missing out because you're too much of an idiot to understand basic options

>>20724560

See my post here. >>20723836 See also the picture in this post. This bull market is only getting started. I can't guarantee you that SILJ will go up the day after you buy, but, if you wait for a pullback before getting any exposure at all, you may end up like people who have been sitting on the side since April.

>>20724560
Depends on how long you want to hold. I doubt silver has peaked, but it could just crab after Monday for a week to a month.

Is the dollar cratering good for stocks? Please give me some good news

>>20724577
oh i get it so you have to put 3000$ down on one contract to buy a tesla contract or tesla are useless

why dont you just burn your money and throw your money off a building

i couldnt think of a more foolish statement to tell people you have to buy high volume expensive ass options so they can go bankrupt and homeless

>>20724595

No. See my post here. >>20722620 Stocks are about to become valuable only in the same way as Venezuelan or Zimbabwe ones are.

>>20724595
Yes

>>20722569
>We could all be enjoying summer if it wasn't because every body in government is a decrepit 80 year old afraid to catch the flu

Fix it for you anon don't thank me

>>20724598
Who said anything about TSLA? You're using a terrible example and most stocks have decent open interest on most options contracts to be able to get in and out. Options on SPY for example are not that expensive if you aren't a poorfag. Literally you can pay a $100 for a contract a couple of strikes OTM. Fuck off since you're just pulling statements out of your ass and have no idea what you're talking about

>>20724595

the market won't crash because people will flood their USD into the market to avoid inflation

I haven't seen this much discussion of SNSS before across multiple social media sites before. I don't know whether the normies noticing SNSS will cause a further massive rise, or some kind of catastrophe, but I bet the ticker will be volatile as fuck today. I hope some of you held your shares when they fucked up the Veca study.

>>20724713

The stock market in the 70s didn't keep up with inflation. In an environment of high inflation, it is better to hold stocks than to hold cash; but why hold either when you can hold gold and gold miners. By comparison, gold went 25x in the 70s and 80s--not an exaggeration.

T is a good buy at this price and anything below.
OPK is going to double by January.
NLOK is at a fairly good buying price.
IT is a swing trader and long term buyer's dream.
MSFT has some upward potential.
XRX is a great trader's stock.
OPK is the gambler's moon mission. Been saying it for a few weeks and only been right.

>>20724747
How much did gold miners go up in the 70’s?

>>20724424
Nah even if I had it I wouldn’t get tested and get put on a house arrests and be watched

>>20724803
How does 1 million sound?

>>20724704
i dont need to know anything about stonks

i just know youre mentally ill and mentally challenged

investing is called investing its only profitable if you buy something at a small price and hodl it

but u think gambling is investing ur dumb.

contracts are lottery tickets

>be me
>been on /v/ all weekend because of nintendo leaks
>decide to check futues
>it's green
Tomorrow will be beautiful

>>20724808
It may be, that, you, think, you, are, more, important, than, you actually, are!

>>20724821
Yeah they're lottery tickets if you're a smoothbrain like yourself and don't know what the fuck they are doing

>>20724626
>>>20722569
>>We could all be enjoying summer if we weren't afraid of being anal vored by Sonicfox

Fix'd further.

>>20724847
ive been around real gambling my whole life everyone when theyre at the peak say oh yes i found this immaculate strategy my results prove it

until one day they lose everything

because their strategy of 50-50 gambling makes you lose after a while

it was still not in their favor

even if they won the first 200 times in a row

>>20724827
same anon, except i might lose money despite this

>>20724860
I never said to go all in on options. Again, if you don't bother understanding how they work then of course it's literal gambling because you have mo control over the odds of your risk. There's a reason why there are different strike prices, expiration dates, and the associated statistics. You've already admitted you refuse to learn or understand how options work on a basic level so of course it's going to seem like rolling a die to you.

As a general can we start pointlessly posting more slampigs?

>>20724944
That's not a slam pig. She is just short.

This gook poster needs to get a trip so I can stop seeing his retard posts jesus christ

>>20724787
Kinda want NLOK

I don’t have cyber security exposure and Cramer just initiated a position in his trust thingy.

>OPK going to double
Oh Christ I’m talking to t-baby tard

>>20724579
Don't listen to this fat kike. He's trying to delude you into thinking the market is fine when its turbo fucked. Buy gold coins, guns and ammo. Most people who browse smg has left because they lost shit tons and can't stand reading delusion any further.

>>20724944

>>20724925
those numbers dont actually mean anything dude because the farther the date goes the more youre
paying for it

it might as well be a zero sum game

>>20724803

The average small-cap silver miner went up 150x. Don't know about gold miners, but it must be comparable.

>>20725020

I don't think you read my post. I'm not whomever you think I am.

>>20725015
Why don't you like OPK?

Yeah NLOK is a good bet.

Dump on Thursday once GDP numbers come in?

>>20724961
>She
Anon I...

Shill T1m3:

MARA-Marathon Patent Group

Mines Crypto

....Super cheap RN. Bitcoin/Ethereum going up. They should benefit from this pump.

Warning: Penny stock.

>>20725028
How are you actually attracted to these women? Not saying I wouldn’t fuck them, I would, there is just a long list of chicks ahead of them. They have no ass, no tits, they like they are boring and annoying, and they look like they suck at sex. Stop using gooks and anime as an identity.

>>20725028
You can't continue to pretend like you know what you're talking about, you're basing your entire argument off of your little personal anecdote topped with statements pulled out of your ass. Again, since you don't know what you're talking about or doing, just fuck off because you're clearly just a smoothbrain who got fucked by options for having no risk management and being a dumbass

>>20725090
who do you think you are dude that girl you posted probably has like 100,000 instagram followers and thousands of simps sending her money

why do you think you have a long list of them

>>20725143
im up on options overall

i simply dont like them except specific news coming out about a company doing something wrong

>>20725090
because he's actually an autist.. kpop stans are all cultist retards.. please just ignore him and report him for avatarfagging

>>20725143
Anon that’s the thread schizo and it is a known troll. It also will likely kill itself soon as it is a tranny. Please stop replying.

>>20724281
He uses proxies and might even pay for one just to post on 4chan.

>>20725315
I get more bullish the more that people reply

>>20723547
Alright give me all your dollars then :^)

>>20725334
or restarted his modem?

I don't mind K-pop anon, desu

He's a harmless retard not the town's rapist

What are good proxies to post here anyway? All the proxies I normally use are blocked unless I pay for 4chan gold which is defeating the purpose anyway. I've been reduced to releasing my modem's IP on a weekly basis now.

>>20724021
Dumbest reason I've ever heard for investing in a motorcycle company

> I'm going to invest in studio apartments since everyone is going to want to live by themselves!

>>20725498
Smoothbrained post fren
Just go to the Starcraft generals when you crave his type of tranny retardation

>>20723848
I would never get anything over 15 years.

>>20723547
>In late 2018, they attempted to do that and the whole system began to collapse at breakneck speed.
They had already been tightening, they just did one too tight and too fast while tariffs were already shocking the system.

>>20724261
Imagine being this dumb

>>20724296
Wow. This board really went downhill

>>20725585
Yep, the fucking metals tard became an arrogant spammer and the kpop tranny feeds off the (you)s posters like you give it, and the /pol/schizos have been summoned to pmg and are leaking all over the place. But at least we know one of them has been in a mental institution and wants to dress up as a girl take dick in the ass, so he’ll probably kill himself at some point.

>>20723848
Better have 20% or more to avoid PMI.

Be ready to rent a room out too.

>>20725620
>>20725585

just buy nak and shut up

>>20725684
>he fell for baggies lies
Sorry fren

Folks, should we pull out of markets? Rising PM prices may signal that investors are losing confidence in the financial system.

t. Worried faggot

>>20724944
I prefer Plow Sows

>>20725540
I'm on same boat. Harley is not going to do well.

>>20725638
If he waits a few months, the house value will likely go lower than the worth of the PMI due to foreclosures, recovering market and niggers desu

For example,, After the Seattle protests, can you imagine how much the property values will drop in 4-5 months?

>>20725684
You sire are wrong. Telling people to invest in a highly opposed NON EXISTENT mine is wrong.

Buy Corona testing companies instead, that is the fucking mine. Mining your boogers to the gotdamn't moon I tell ya whut. OPK

>>20725760
As long as the Fed is around, equities are going to do good.

The only time to worry is if inflation ramps up fast....which is why I was worried when I saw not only PM's rise, but commodities like Oil go up at the same time at a rapid rate.

>$24 for silver
ummmmm... WHAT? HOW? WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

>>20722845
>dumping treasuries
demand for treasuries is so high right now bro

>>20722940
Blessed

>>20725835
Get a load of this goy

>>20725684
I bought calls and you’re a faggot.

>>20725801
Real estate prices are not going to plunge like you fantasize, no matter how many rowdy niggers burn down footlockers.

The government is fully committed to inflating the asset prices of their reliable voting boomers. That’s why they’ll let chinks and Russians and saudis and Persians and whoever the fuck wants to buy land bid up the prices.

>>20725638
PMI wasn’t so bad last week.

>>20725760
bagholders will be btfo forever

>>20725801
Prices aren't going down anytime soon buddy. If anything they will rise but that doesn't mean it is a good idea to buy and pay for insurance on a mortgage. If you are going to buy a house, you should put 20% or more down and you should have two years equivalent of mortgage payments set aside that can cover potential maintenance or updating.

>>20725835
As soon as futures opened, prices shot way the fuck up. Pretty comfy holding these miners senpai

>>20722938
Intel is 4.5 years behind on 10nm and 3+ years behind on their targets for 7nm
Even if they don't have any more delays than what they've already said, they are a whole generation behind TSM and Samsung fabs, but they will probably be 2+ generations behind forever unless they fire all of their diversity hires and pull a very very small rabbit out of a miraculous hat

Casino's Fucked.

>>20725835
It broke resistance couple hours after futures opened. Since the whole thing is bullish as hell already that caused some extra buying and short covering frenzy.

>>20725835
I'm considering selling my physical silver :o
I've had it for many years and would be kinda sad to see it go, but all those years ago I said I'd sell it when it hit 20. I unironical think it still has upside over the next couple years tho

>>20725890
I still can't believe Intel blew a fucking 5 year lead over AMD. I remember AMD being an absolute joke since the i-series was released, and yet in the last 3 years AMD managed to fucking stomp them and are now the head of the market.

I wet the bed again /smg/...

GDP on Thursday priced in? Can't see any reason why its not.

>>20725947
Intel's story reminds me of earlier times with tech. Big companies with large chunk of the markeshare secured somehow trip over own feet repeatedly and piss it all away.

>>20725971
What happens when Priced in is Priced in?

>>20725971
Nothing is priced in faggot

>>20725961
Join the diaper gang, anon. I usually wear them during weeks like this coming one with all the earnings coming out and all

>>20725971
market does not respond to GDP numbers unless they come in well outside expected range.

>>20726022
inverse bamboozle

>>20725823
Yes, I'm worried too. Bitcoin and Euro are also on the rise. But can the stock market tank in anticipation of FED policies regarding inflation, as FED's #1 priority is taming inflation and keeping USD status as a reserve currency? Or do you think this is out of a window because rising interest rates will basically kill the market?

My prime concern is that rising PM prices show investors fears about the future outlook of the economy, which may result in the equity market tanking as investors flee from risky assets. I think inflation in equities is already priced in at this point, so why would I not take some profit now? And the market hates uncertainty.

>>20725945
I bought some in march when spot was $14, AE were like $20, generic was $18.

Friendly reminder that TSLA will hit 2000 by Friday

>>20726024
What about your mom's vagina? Surely that's priced in.

>SMIC STILL CRASHING
HAHAHAHA YEAH it’s just below where I bought fuckin kek

>>20726065
Yes... I suspect it’s Tuesday’s consumer confidence numbers that could really shake shit up. If it resumed falling, then confidence in the recovery is shaken, and deflationary risks are on the table again, and maybe we’ll see a buyable dip in stocks and metals.

I have been buying physical silver but recently shorted the market at the end of June and got a volatility crush on my January options. At this point I just hope we get a volatility spike in the next week or two so I can exit my puts and enter silver miners.

Thoughts on when’s the best time to sell mining stocks

>>20726196
In a few years

>no clangs
I’m scared bros...

So, just curious, what would another lockdown do to the economy?

>>20726104
Ya I got mine when spot was 15, don't remember how much above I payed but I don't think it was that much. Buying and selling physical sucks, really should have held onto my etfs :/

>>20726233
Not happening. They can announce a working vaccine, which will most likely be a placebo, but they will not close countries again

>>20726233
Kill it completely, but thankfully that will never happen again. From now on you'll get at most certain counties in certain states axing some businesses. If we go lockdown 2.0 it's not going to be from COVID. Even if COVID were to suddenly double the number of deaths we wouldn't shutdown again.

>>20726255
I ordered some I’m just going to hold, who knows what’s going to happen to the country over the next few decades. You’re lucky you caught on when it was cheap. After taxes and everything mine came out to 26/oz.

Not sure about what I’m going to do with my paper silver and miners though.

>>20726277
u havnt read the bible dude ur lost

the vaccine is part of the micro chip system

its not just a whimsical little vaccine like chicken pox u took when ur 3

>ahhhh that first sip of the morning

Feels so good man. But where my /coffeegang/ at?!??

Guys what the fuck should I buy (only have 400)

>>20726049
I've been thinking about it. There are an increasing amount of /smg/ users who wear diapers. A couple threads back there was an anon who just started wearing goodnites and said how comfy they are. I just can't imagine wearing diapers again though, I'm a grown ass man after all. But if what other anons are saying is true then I may go back into diapers. You know, for the meme haha, yeah the meme hahahaha.

>>20724409
>every board ive visited for the last 10 years overwhelmingly hated me
Lmao then why don't you change your fucking behaviour
Children learn that trick

>>20726307
Here but I’m about to go to bed. Only up until 1 so I can see how much my SILJ shares are worth post silver pump.

>>20726232
KLANG time is in 35 minutes.

>>20726345
Penny Stocks, Buy KNOS.

>>20726297
Do you think we'll lockdown if the virus starts killing children/young adults?

I fear parents will force Trump's hand...especially in a political campaign.

>>20726233
No shutdown probably I don’t know for sure
More likely that we have more severe restrictions to the point you can be fined for not wearing a mask in public

Staying up for premarket open and then sleepy sleeps

Retarded euros drinking coffee at 1am, when will they learn

>>20726233
Define “lockdown.” If you mean we have a mixed model of 50% restaurant capacity? It will probably stagnant the economy until people no longer give a fuck. Even the most hardcore virus pushers will get sick of the restrictions.

If there is a full lockdown with no schools open, it will tank the Dow by 25% or more. Unemployment will remain high. I don’t think there are anough people who will sit back and accept a real lockdown

>>20726422
Its 9am here

>>20726367
cuz if im just saying words in a general and they get mad at me then theyre just satan inside of them

i cant fix that

u dont see me reporting people

ive never pressed that button in decade+

>>20726196
I wouldn't even consider it until covid is finished.

>>20726434
Only by third-world time. GMT a shit.

>>20726383
ohhh good thanks I guess I’m a little bit off!

>>20726430
Same Lockdowns as March

>>20726430
>people can’t handle cooking at home and need to be seated indoors at restaurants.
Fucking Americans god damn it!!
Think of how much money you’ll save on Valentine’s Day by having a home cooked meal with low expectations!
Or by being single!

>>20726277
I think the jews like the covid menace because they get to treat us like literal cattle and print mad money. 2nd wave is confirmed for me just off that.

>>20726345
OPK or AAPL or MSFT

>>20726385
It's not going to kill kids in significant enough numbers. It's going to kill school staff and some household adults, but kids are resilient as fuck to it. Honestly all they had to do to safely reopen schools is try to get a bunch of young teachers and create exemption programs for boomer teachers and children that are at risk/live with at risk people and it wouldn't be as bad.

>>20726422
make sure to wear your diaper or you'll have an accident like >>20725961 who is too retarded to realize he needs a diaper

Burgerbros... your weak dollar is FUCKING MY SHIT UP

my burger investments are losing value so hard vs the Euro that my gains don’t even matter

FUUUUUUUCK

What’s tsla doing today? Wondering if I should sell and buy back in after the morning dip.

>>20726468
nah its already fizzling out in sweden, and its far less dangerous than spanish flu, its the epitome of a nothingburger

Which stocks should I look into to get gains this orgasmic /smg/?

>>20726549
Both points true and second wave/Spanish flu comparisons are a meme BUT Sweden didn't lockdown so has built up a large amount of public immunity. Countries that locked down don't now have that advantage (although there is generally much larger immunity/cases than recorded and currently known)

Sweden won the covid cup desu.

>>20725864
AOC has such an awesome body

>>20726512
diapers, feet, furries and Ohio are all degenerate

>>20726507
My fear is mutation. No one can rule out a mutation. So if it starts killing young people, what do we do?

>>20726233
It would be a civil war

>>20726654
Let it wipe out humanity

>>20726613
found the redditor

>>20726666
Checked satanic quads

>euroniggers selling again

>>20726654
Just nuke it

>>20726654
Mutation rate on coronaviruses are low. One common cold virus is a coronavirus and it hasn't mutated to be super deadly yet. Only problem is reinfections can be super annoying.

>>20726613
nice job exposing yourself newfag, now put on the diaper and keep it on.

What gold/silver stocks are you guys going to buy today as the market crashes? I'm thinking SSRM (about to merge with another gold miner) and BAR (good growth ETF). I sold everything else on Friday.

>>20726696
I am holding

>>20726613
Whatever you say, fag. Most anons ITT wear diapers anyways

>>20726613
>doesn’t wear diapers
ngmi kek

>>20726732
im all in on enduro, one of the only miners with the strongest fundamentals that has not boomed yet.

>>20726692
>>20726728
>>20726744
>ohiofags instantly expose themselves

>>20726779
>all in on one stock
yikes, anyone more sane have an opinion?

>>20726780
No Ohiofag will actually defend Ohio. We will be the first to warn others of the misery of this hole while begging for the sweet release of a nuclear hellstorm.

>>20726812
do you not know the story of the anon with the ohio fetish

Alright you little fuckwits. This site has gone to shit. Tripfags getting responses. Retards galore. I know it’s summer but holy fuck.

>>20726812
As it should be, ohionog.

>>20722620
world currency is not pegged against any physical material.

who the fuck is posting ugly slant eyed whores?

making new just a sec

TSM to 80 lmao

I called this out this morning. Should of listened.

TSM OPENING AT $80

NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW

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