/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20698396
IOTA, Elastos and Holo are the best options for the future.
They can all do everything, and better than the competition.

The hack and centralization worry me, but at least those can be fixed in the future.

I only have 50 MIOTA but I’m looking to acquire more.

>>20698396
scam. im buying at 500 sats

EDAG, OMG, SMT, TMForum, Dell Technologies, Software AG, JLR, MOBI, and too many others to list. If you know, you know

iota will be fucking insane as soon as they got their decentralisation up and running. Literally good news every week and industrial partnerships everywhere.

>>20698396
based, iota doesn't get enough love here

>>20698396
2017 tier shitcoin. It's over, let it go

iota is a fucking joke
their partnerships are fake bullshit
their tech is 5 years along and still isn't close to working
its a fucking scam you gay reddit nerds

>>20699399
>>20699422
You know you are talking shit. IOTA in this sense is like any other crypto except for their novel tech that gets better and better by the day. If they Stick to their Plan, Not a lot of shitcoins will be left

>>20698396
I love iota and im riding it to the moon but whatever you do dont engage with the iota reddit. I got banned within a week. I have never dealt with such a bunch of faggots.

>>20699422
Try again and try harder. Dumbfuck.

>smart money
>IOTA
Choose one

does anyone here have actual LEGITIMATE criticism of iota? aside from the coordinator, which they are working on removing, there isn't a single red flag in this project

>>20700802
>there isn't a single red flag in this project
LMAO

IOTA is terrible, never ending promises and no real progress, it is the Star Citizen of crypto. New projects like polkadot and Avalanche, have a much better chance of delivering. Don’t be an IOTA bagholder

All the FUD'ster in this thread are pajeets confirmed.
IOTA will soon take over ethereum for one simple reason: feeless smart contracts.
Biggest kill feature for any crypto out there trying to be more than a simple pamp and dump.

>>20700875
name one

>>20701022
>name one
I'll go with two
>track record of magnificent scams
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1273040.0
>years and years of development with no results
this shit doesn't work yet and has zero use cases. come on

>>20698396
IOTA has literally not changed one bit from 2017. You got scammed, let it go. The same exact IOTA in 2017 is running right now.

>>20701078
Very weak FUD. You need to try harder my man.
Do you even track progress of IOTA?
Do you even know what the TMForum is?
You can do better.

>>20701105
Wrong.

>>20701113
>Do you even track progress of IOTA?
there is none

>>20701078
>Jinn
>Scam
fucking lol

>>20701160
Fuck off?
We're having the 1.5 mainnet upgrade today on testnet and we will have that out in 1-2 weeks on manner. What are you even talking?
https://twitter.com/der_muXxer/status/1286348007944970244

>>20701187
*in 1-2 weeks on mainnet approx.

>>20701143
Actually 100% correct. There have been ZERO upgrades to the network since 2017. Only missed deadlines, scapped plans, hacks, and 90% declines.

IOTA is a straight up failed project and a scam, it will never be decentralized.

>>20701224
Such weak FUD.
They're currently changing so much in the protocol, check out chrysalis (1.5 Mainnet upgrade before pure decentralization). If you just want to spread fud on blatant lies do some better work, it's really sloppy, ngl.
IOTA just had their whole node system changed and you're out here talking shit out of your ass. Hilarious.

>>20701253
I care about the end result, not all the attempts to make idiots like you believe they are going anywhere. IOTA is STILL centralized and it is STILL useless

>>20699545
Hello Dominik, we don't capitalize these words in the English language.

>>20699545

>Stick
>Plan
>Not'

Ah I get it now, it was a hidden message about IOTA.

>>20698396
IOTA's DLT is nothing more than a ducking SQL database. Decentralized-Acyclic-Graphs are not new in programming.

Also Shit doesn't even work and your psyxho boss Sonstebo ousted their lead engineer last year, CfB. That guy was the only one who had any real abilities. Dominik and David can hardly program at all.

Iota is sadly dead, and their community are such arrogant pieces of shit. That's why no one likes you, not because you're "eating anyones lunch"

>>20701171
bro all the token holders can't fucking sell, lmao its the fattest scam ever

Idiotas at it again, like it's 2017.
Did a good 20x like every other shitcoin back than, those were the days.

>>20702626
>>20701613
>>20702675
>>20702692

Is that really all you can come up with? your running out of fud boiz! Keep it up, I will sell my IOTA's to you at 12$ a piece.

>>20702891

No, bro, I held this for 4 years. I was the biggest believer.

I missed out on Chainlink because I was arrogant like you are now. Trust me this coin is shitty, the community is shitty, the development is shitty and you will get hacked again. Sorry bro, get out while you still can. Ethereum is going to scale to 15k TPS with smaller fees, and when it does Iota will have lost.

Iota had its chance during the bear market to turn heads, but everyone's building on block chain now. DAG's are synonymous with scams now. (FANTOM, BYTEBALL, IOTA)

Also the coin is texhnically worthless since you can send transactions without IOTA. So doesn't really make much sense aside a machine sending 0.0001c to another machine for...what would even be a use case for this?

>>20703059

Ethereum is 2-4 years away from a functional mainnet that will still have transaction fees.

In 2 years IOTA will literally be everywhere. I'm sorry to hear that you missed out on Chainlink, dropping IOTA would cause you to miss out again.

Also, it's not true what your saying. You can send data transactions without IOTA, but you cannot send value transactions without IOTA. IOTA is simply the most efficient and effective way to transfer value on the network. That is what gives it value. Also, with colored tokens (coming this fall) there will be a lot of buying pressure because in order to issue your own token you need to buy IOTA tokens and 'colour' their hash to your liking.

>>20702891
Iota is dead. It’s still centralized and it will NEVER reach $12 there isn’t enough money in the world to match that market cap you fucking DONKEY

>>20703695

haha, all good man, stay poor :)

>>20703800
based retard still hanging on 2017 dead shit coins

>>20703838

Dead?
https://blog.iota.org/introducing-pollen-the-first-decentralized-testnet-for-iota-2-0-349f63f509a1

https://blog.iota.org/iota-research-status-update-july-2020-5a863a1dfae6

>>20703800
They can't even do the math, what the fuck.
This curry board is retarded. We need flags.

>>20703999
buzzwords and empty promises, like in 2017. Nothing changed.

IOT works without IOTA
you were scammed

>>20703389
wtf you talking about? ETH 2.0 is less than 6 months away. Iota on the other hand is questionable if it will ever even work

>>20705002
Pay 10$ in fees for 2-3 smartcontracts, totally feasible. No, vitalik already confirmed that it will take much longer than that. And for how long are they trying now to reach their goal of "ETH 2.0"? YEARS, LITERALLY YEARS. Yet you imbeciles shit on IOTA while they make so much progress as of lately since CfB left, that retard.
Don't come back crying in a few months when IOTA gets fomo'd by everyone.
The few selected anons with farsight will be shitting all over you plebs soon enough.

>>20705303
>so much progress
literally no progress, they always restart from zero to let greater fools in

>>20701022
Jinn

>>20705324
Literally can't even read or use google or anything at all. You will never ever make it.

>>20705377
I probably know the latest developments better than you.
They pull off the same old tricks and they always work with new idiots

>>20705424
You don't know jackshit, don't act as you do.
I will be taking part in the newest testnet which will be embedded in a few hours which will mark the next milestone to upgrade the mainnet even further, yet some retarded pajeets like you come around the corner to shit over this board like you always do.

>>20705480
>You don't know jackshit, don't act as you do.

>>20705515
Posting selfie when outsmarted, ggs.
Have fun holding your shitcoins when other real projects will take over all the trash that you hold.

>>20705601
>Posting selfie when outsmarted, ggs.
>Have fun holding your shitcoins when other real projects will take over all the trash that you hold.

>>20705601
>the trash that you hold
BTC / ETH / LINK btw
I already made it while you were getting facefucked by David & co.

>>20705718
>BTC / ETH / LINK
Wow, you hold shit that literally 99% of crypto bubble retards hold. Congrats.
You will not make it though.
You're talking about scams when you hold chainlink, can't make this shit up.
Also, ethereum. Are you stupid?
Nobody wants to pay their overpriced fees you retarded pajeet. IOTA is feeless do you even understand what that means? FEELEES smartcontracts are being developed as we speak. Your shitcoins will be utterly destroyed very soon.
I can't wait for the tears on biz.

>>20705798
seethe more cunt
as I said, I already made it, nothing can change that

>>20705858
You made nothing, your shitcoins are not even made for longterm holding. Eth 2.0 won't work, already confirmed 1000 times. BTC is centralized as fuck and has way too many whales. CHAINLINK IS THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER AND YOU GOT MEME'D INTO IT.
Nothing more to say.
Remember this thread in a few months/years.

>>20705919
I already cashed out enough to make it, while you were wasting time on IOTA
seethe more cunt

>>20703059
Colored coins: aka the erc20 tokens of the iota network. Big difference: you cant create colored coins out of thin air as with erc20, but need to use a share of the original tokens. Imagine the use cases: digital identity, supply chains, prove of ownership, pegging currencies, lkterally endless use cases for which the token is directly needed.

Permanodes: permanode owners can charge iotas for people who need to access older data on the tangle.

>>20699399
Does the staying power of a low market cap coin not prove it isn't shit, but that it's a legit project that people are trying to make work?

>cord aside

>>20706423
Would you have made the same clever remark in the early days of eth or btc when they still had their coordinator nodes securing the network?

>>20705798
>IOTA is feeless do you even understand what that means? FEELEES smartcontracts are being developed as we speak.
so, please remind me ... why would anybody run a node and execute your code for free again?

>> 20706936

the idea is that free data and free value transfer are an incentive in itself for companies, governments, hobbyists etc. to start running a node. If you're a company that needs a lot of transactions it makes perfect sense to run a node in a network that allows you to do that for free.

If you are still in blockchain mindset this may sound like bullshit to you, but the hundreds of companies that are already using IOTA and running their own nodes would beg to differ with you.

>>20707310
> If you are still in blockchain mindset this may sound like bullshit to you, but the hundreds of companies that are already using IOTA and running their own nodes would beg to differ with you.
how does that relate to blockchain? Why wouldn't the exact same argument hold for any PoS block chain just as well?

>>20706936
The end-goal of IOTA is that everyone can run a node with almost no requirements.
Check out STMicroelectronics, they are working on the hardware in that regard to building low-end hardware which will be able to run nodes on the IOTA network.
You don't need an incentive. The incentive in that regard is that you don't have to pay fees for anything, like it should be anyways.

>>20707310
That also.

>>20707310

In permissionless blockchains you will always have the conflict of interest between stakers/miners on one side, and the users on the other side.

In IOTA you are both user and validator at the same time.

IOTA is making big moves but quietly. The Foundation doesn't focus on hype or marketing to retail investors (they do attempt to establish channels with dominant industry players). It's an insanely giga-brain project with lofty goals. It is NOT guaranteed that they will succeed, but if they do, IOTA could go parabolic.

I'd recommend a suicide stack of 2,000-5,000 MIOTA for anyone serious about a diversified (and not just meme) crypto portfolio. It is a longer-term hold, but the window for building a reasonable stack will probably be closing rapidly as the new year approaches.

>>20707640
>the window for building a reasonable stack will probably be closing rapidly as the new year approaches.
lmao

>>20707711
>he still doesn't get it

>>20707881
>>he still doesn't get it

>>20705798
Here's that arrogance of IOTA-cucks that everyone hates.

You think you're better than everyone else, go back to your reddit or discord circle jerk bitch

>>20707387
yeah but if I'm running a fucking node that costs money to do that. Could be a thousand dollars a year depending on the throughput

>this faggot doesn't know shit about networking

>>20708437
>doesn't understand the economy
Shouldn't you be sucking Sergeys dick?
But for real though you don't seem to grasp that IOTA nodes are nothing compared to your little memecoin called chainlink where you don't even necessarily need the token.
Maybe DYOR for once.
>>20708386
If speaking the truth makes you arrogant I can handle that, lmao.
No need to foam though.

>>29795798

I agree with you that the IOTA community has an air of arrogance around it. Don't let that fool you away from the project though.

The project generally attracts people that are capable of seeing the bigger picture and looking beyond the many imperfections the project still has.

What do you think Bitcoin looked like in 2010?

Most IOTA supporters have grasped the scope and vision of this project, and have come to the realization that this technology is - once finished - far superior to anything else in blockchain space. This echoes in their communication and is often perceived as arrogance.

>>20708744
seethe more cunt

>>20708904
>17 replies in this thread
>keeps seething
>"s-seethe more cunt"
>checks out

>Cant even start a test on time

>>20698396
heavy bags eh?

IOTA bagholders are too naive
just let them keep telling you that one day that coordinator will be turned off

>>20709054
seethe more cunt

>>20710200
Better than ethereum bagholders expecting to see ethereum 2.0 while paying 1000$ fees for one transaction.

>>20710017
savage but true!

>>20698630
holo's value proposition is the dumbest fucking idea ever
it's a paid bit torrent

>>20702626
CfB is a complete schizio
he lives in a fantasy world