/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20604568

Finally gets it. $1 eoy

People need to calm down with the price on this. Since some of you are absolutely fixated on price impact, say you bought in at $2/AMPL, 7 days of conservative rebases and even if it dumps to $1, you're green.

>>20604568
Road to 1 million ample worth $1

>>20604568
exactly. by the time it ends up at $1, it just matters how many you've racked up. ignore the gay noise.

>>20604568
Pretty much. Yes. The end goal is billions (maybe even trillions) of AMPL at $1 and it replaces Tether pretty much.... an actual liquid coin though. It’s printing money but, in a way that autonomously balances its own books in a way.

It does take a while to wrap your head around but once you do it’s like being fucking high lol. Holding this is guaranteed money maker at this point. I fucked up when it ranked at $150m and panic sold, but this time I didn’t.

>>20604568
kek that's not going to stop them from dumping on you for free eth

>>20604612
Lol price still matters. Being down 50-60% and having to fight your way out of a hole is bad look for new investors.

>>20604650
Sigh....I really don’t think there is a way to explain this to some people.

The supply is going to increase over time, by a lot. You are going to start noticing it once the mcap hits a billion. You’re going to think it’s the end of AMPL literally once a week most likely and will always be wrong. I’ve learned that the hard way lol

Well the only problem is if the price dumps under 1$, at which point you would start losing AMPL.
This guy explained it well:
https://twitter.com/MapleLeafCap/status/1144252401995661313

>>20604568
Can someone explain this token to me? I just bought the dip since it's a juicy dip but I have no idea how the tokenonomics work.

>>20604568
Bingo. Every Ampl you have is worth a dollar. What’s the cheapest way to get more? Holding.

>>20604696
It only matters in the beginning. You think a 10m fluctuation at a billion market cap is going to tank this shit?

NO THIS IS A JEWISH PONZI SCHEME

YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR, WHALES ARE GOING TO DUMP ON YOU, BITCONNECT 2.0

>>20604716
>tokenonomics
go drink gas & light a cigar you colossal faggot

>>20604696
top fucking kek. investors. would you like to have a word with the code, fine sir? you entitled mongrel. this isn't a fucking company. it's a made up token backed by absolutely goddamned nothing. it's literally imaginary internet money. you probably read that as fud, too. you have to go back.

>>20604568
>reddit spacing
Didn’t read lol go back

>>20604696
It matters in the very short term. If you're swinging it's a different story. For a hodler, it has a diminishing effect on entry point

>>20604765
Answer the question you stupid faggot, I've got too much capital to be researching my investments.

>>20604704
The price would have to be less than $1.06. Realistically, when do you see that happening? The market just shat close to 100m prior to rebase and its already rebounding from new buyers. In fact, while it was in the process of dumping, close to 100 wallets were added. Think about that.

>>20604704
yes but even if that happens your marketshare remains the same and it just bounces right back,

For instance... it hit 1.44 just now and is back to $1.90 already..

thats over 30% in just ONE HOUR after the rebase.

sigh... maybe this will help explain it. There are a lot of incentives either for LPs, holders, investors, and exchanges to never let this be worth less than $1 .... the ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM needs it and this is what is going to bring crypto to the trillions, where it never could go before. Tether is too shady, DAI couldnt quite do it.... this is economic ingenous and its why they have the backers they do, both enterprise and communally.

If you don't understand it, there may be no way to explain it, and youll just have to watch.

There's another layer to this. The nature of the coin means there is a lot of dumb money coming in due to small fish swingies trying to gamble, your average FOMO buy high/FUD sell low chump, etc., which bigger players are easily able to prey on by trading high volume intelligently/with bots. The reason a you can can make money is because the large gains these whales make from the dumb money is necessarily partly redistributed to holders.

So we have an incentive for whales to keep making money and increasing the MC, which trickles down to us. As time goes on, the coin becomes more stable and starts to fulfil its use case. Hold, accumulate, and ride the whales.

>>20604568
every single paycheck 100% into AMPL

>>20604807
TFW trickle down economics actually works.

>>20604782

>>20604782
The number of AMPL you own is relative to the percentage of the market, goal is for AMPL to be worth $1. Rebases (distribution of tokens to make up for the cut in value per token) occur daily to bring the price down, but tokens up. Basically, if this grows like it has been you'll definitely be a millionaire.

>>20604716
You didn't buy a token, you bought a percentage of market cap. So long as you get positive rebases, over time your stack builds. Assuming the MC continues to grow organically, long term you'll make fatter and fatter stacks. Ignore coin price action. It's all about market cap.

>>20604701
no, i understand, i've been in since last month.
i'm just saying that holders, while they make gains, are still niggers who subsidize whale dumps by not competing. ampl will not increase in value unless whales can make the market for free eth in order to match their ampl holdings in liquidity pools and still maintain or grow their % stake in ample.

>>20604810
This. I'm putting every penny I earn into this.

>>20604836
I plan on selling once my net worth is past a certain point to allow others to secure better market positions.

>$1.95
>$2.20 PRE-REBASE

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>20604789
I don't know when or why, just saying it can happen.

>>20604801
There's nothing complicated here, I don't know why everyone keeps larping like this is some high iq big brain coin. I was just pointing out that the coins you get at rebase time are not to be taken for granted because if it did go under 1$ you would start losing them, not saying it will happen, just saying it can.

Liquidity already up 10%, price already up 30%, wallets growing... all in just one hour after what would have been the death of ANY project that dumps over $100 million mcap in like 4 hours.

And its sustaining it on its own.... like, please please please try to understand this is somehting very very veryyyyy interesting...

>>20604828
I see, so it's capable of taking away my coins?
And I believe every coin has you purchase a percentage of mcap unless its deflationary. I don't see how this is beneficial.

>>20604827
don't entertain this fuckbag, if he depends on anonymous advice from an underwater Mongolian basket weaving forum at least tell him the truth.
This is a collaboration between CSW & Richard Heart that tokenomically user rebases air drop tokens cryptologic marketcap synergistically exponential lossy-gain wallets.

>>20604869
based sweety

>>20604801
>>20604807

Jesus christ. I went all in on Statera and AMPL I cant take this shit anymore. These coins are fucking my endocrine system up. Im going to need hard drugs soon to feel. I have to think of charts to coom with GF.

>>20604568
I just bought 18k of these bad boys at 1.6 USD.

What am I in for, besides absolute economic ruin, /biz/ ?

>>20605091
Unironically making it

>>20605091
Just fucking HOLD

>>20605091
how does 180 million dollars sound

Newfag here, do I get rebase if I just hold it in my wallet?

>>20605148
Yes. Lurk moar please

>>20605148
no you have to go to their dashboard and click "rebase" at 7pm pacific time

>>20605148
No you have to call the based department and ask to be reBASED

>>20605164
dont listen to this guy, the more people dont click on rebase the higher the payout for others.

What's the target marketcap and timeline for this?

The secret of ampl is lopsided mathematics. There is unlimited max positive rebase (anything >$1.05) but limited max negative rebase (anything below $0.96) of -10% at $0 price. As long as there is demand, negative rebase will still bring price up back to $1 and start FOMO cycles again. This uneven math effectively makes for trapping more base mcap after each FOMO cycle and raising the collective value of each holder's stack.
The only way value can leave is if there were prolonged 0 demand, which at this point is not realistic.

However, don't let anyone shill you with "muh compounded gains" or any such nonsense. Rebase simply changes supply evenly so everyone still holds the same % of the token supply each night. Money comes in whenever whales or FOMO fags pump the price and requires continuous new demand for mcap (and hence the value of your stack) to continue to accumulate at a meaningful rate.

Advanced level: Learn to play the swings and you can multiply your %stack every FOMO cycle. Sell the top, buy the bottom.

>>20604568
Another "Woke Amplet" decides that negative rebase doesn't exist

>>20605107
>>20605114
>>20605116

>>20605216
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Ampleforth. The mechanism is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical mathematics most of the calculations of rebase will go over a typical holder's head. There's also Triffins nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the elastic design- his fiscal philosophy draws heavily from global reserve literature, for instance. The Ampleforce understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these rebases, to realise that they're not just gains- they say something deep about stability and VALUE. As a consequence people who dislike Ampleforth truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the futility in selling after a rebase, which itself is a cryptic reference to the same market cap before rebase. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Ampleforth's genius algorithm unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Geyser tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

all the posts are shills again after one hour of recovery, time for second shakeout

>>20605665
LOL no you don't! The hilarious part is that anybody who "understands AMPL" while still being bullish is a total midwit

>>20605707
Yikes. Didnt buy back in yet. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

>>20605727
>IQ African

>>20604568
Well done anon. You have now awoken from your NPC state. Follow me.

>>20605768
bought at 1.50 after rebase and sold for now at 1.94

if you really pump on from here with clown world power so be it, i still expect a correction to market cap, almost nothing happened yet, it's still at 300m

>>20605167
>>20605184
What's the point of the button anyway? To get your AMPLes a few seconds before everyone else?

>>20605902
Only one person clicks it in the world and starts rebase. It's just a competitive fun "honor" to get.

>>20605665
Lmao this was great
But as the original high iq bancor bro
Your iq is far below mine
I am telling you now, that this is likely not a good time to buy.
OP is stupid, he doesn’t know about negative rebases. Yet everyone in this thread praises him.
The cumulative iq of this thread is room temperature.

>>20605902
it's just a technicality, they should seriously consider hiding it from the main interface to not confuse normies with metamask popping up kek

>>20605727
Kek real news

>>20605954
Do you understand how unlikely a negative rebase is at this point?

>>20605727
Bullish on price or bullish on mcap?

>>20605665
heh....if you understand PEOPLE and MARKET PSYCHOLOGY and AMPL, you will be bullish on AMPL.

>>20604568
Congratulations you have passed part one of the IQ test. Part two involves grabbing as much as possible.

>>20605980
Do you understand how unlikely the marketcap is to increase to where you will not get a negative rebase? At present, the marketcap needs to increase 2x within 10 days. I’m just warning people.

>>20606001
short term i'm not bullish on market cap, you are buying this chart kek

>>20606092
>linear

>>20606092
>...he said on July 13th, July 18th, July 21st, July 22nd

>>20605954
We all know about negative rebases you brainlet, but they're incredibly unlikely while there's such an insanely high amount of liquidity, which stands to be the case for the next two months or so while this project gains enough market cap to approach stability. If we're still seeing a lot of variance, the devs have discussed and will continue to extend liquidity initiatives.

And EVEN IF there's a negative rebase, which only occurs if the price is below .961, it only contracts a whopping one percent per cents below the target price. If an AMPL nosedives to fifty cents, we'll see a five percent negative rebase. Or, you know, one third of what we saw tonight. Again, I'm not sure how this will happen with the amount of pool liquidity and wallet growth we're seeing right now.

You also assume a negative rebase is a bad thing. If the coin is weak where the demand is that low, supply should absolutely be reduced. People had less money twenty years ago but that money had more buying power because there was less of it in circulation. And when the demand for the coin returns, which it probably will because crypto is hurting for a stable coin that isn't a scam, you'll get those coins back in the form of positive rebases.

Jesus I don't even know why I spent my time spelling this out for you. You're like the stupid old boomer that refuses to die because a handful of people die every year in plane crashes.

>>20604568
50-70% market cap halving from here.

Hope you sold.

>>20605954
>replying to a pasta

>>20606001
>
Either! it doesn't matter. I can't even explain to you fuckers because you won't listen. It's like arguing with a woman

>>20606422
>negative rebases are "unlikely"
Hey buddy, did you just witness the price dropping to $1.50. I'm not sure you understand just how close it was to fuck town

>>20606422
I just now I will be buying more if it's negative rebase time. This is the very first coin I believe in. And I sold LTC voor 5 bucks on BTC-e to buy a playstation

>>20606422
>it only contracts a whopping one percent per cents below the target price. If an AMPL nosedives to fifty cents, we'll see a five percent negative rebase
i agree with you but this isnt the whole picture.
if you have 10,000AMPL @$1 = $10,000
then if you have 10,000AMPL -(10% rebase) @.50 = $4500. you have actually lost more money than just a .50 % drop

>>20605954
>The cumulative iq of this thread is room temperature.
You're in this thread

Is 5000 ampl enough to make? I just need to get 500k usd to live well

>>20606743
he raised it from fridge temperature.

>>20606736
The rebase here would be roughly negative five percent and you'd "lose" 500 of your 10000 AMPL.

Except you still have the same percentage of the market cap.

>>20606885
ah yes.. so 9500 @.50 which is 4750 - which is still a $5250 drop. how do you think thousands of retards who dont understand what they are holding will react to that event?

>>20606946
The price increases proportionally to preserve the net worth of the stack, retard.

>>20606946
What? In this example you'd lose 500 AMPL worth 50 cents which equates to a whopping 250 dollars.

Are you secretly shilling this by fuding it so bad?

>>20606704
Shoo shoo fud
this the golden goose

>>20606946
Take your meds anon. 9500 AMPL at .50 cents results in a -5% decrease which would be 475 AMPL. 475 AMPL priced at 50 cents is under $250. Holy shit this coin really is a retard repellent. We’re unironically gonna make it

>>20607081
The price also goes up 5%, as negative rebase shrinks supply 5%, canceling each other out. It's a $0 dollar loss.

>>20606982
>>20607015
>>20607081
LOL are you guys serious? im saying imagine:

you have 10000 AMPL @$1. Ok? got it?
Then the price drops $1-->.50. Got it?
The negative rebase happens -5% - so all in all, you now have 9500 AMPL @.50 cents = $4725. Get it faggots?

>>20607121
Oh damn you’re right, I can’t believe I forgot about that aspect. Thanks for pointing that out. Kek even more reason to be bullish

>>20605091
I bought 5k at the same time wtf have I done

>>20607081
>475 AMPL priced at 50 cents is under $250.
HOLY SHIT ANON YOUR SAYING THE PRICE ONLY AFFECTS THE COINS YOU GET IN THE REBASE AND NOT THE ONES YOUR ALREADY HOLDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHOA!!!!

>>20607147
The price also goes up 5% (which you didn't account for). The price going down from $1 to $0.50 doesn't matter, while there is a difference in price, the value will eventually recover, and you are not taking into account buy pressure in addition to rebase lifting the price to $1 again.

Essentially your hypothetical example is something pulled from your butt and not in line with historical price action in AMPL.

>>20607147
>if the price dumps 50%, you have half of your money

Enlightening info anon, thank you. This is certainly a unique feature to this coin that doesn’t apply to any other type of stock or investment out there

>>20606055
What???

>>20606422
If you buy AMPL at $1.5 it means you expect the supply to increase by at least 50%. If you sell AMPL at $0.50 it means you expect the supply to contract at least 50%.

I think we will see a lot of panic selling when the first negative rebase hits and they're all going to liquidate in fear, but think about it from a buyers perspective. What does buying at $0.50 mean? It means you predict that the supply of AMPL will consolidate to at least above half the current supply.

The entirety of trading AMPL is based on one fundamental calculation, which supply will it consolidate at? Everything else is trying to time the trades for the highest profits.

I think AMPL may very well be the first true "store of value" token, because by design it tries to push the market towards consolidating at a specific price.

>>20607189
>Essentially your hypothetical example is something pulled from your butt and not in line with historical price action in AMPL.
why are you guys taking this so fucking personal. like fucking step back a second. holy shit.
explain to me how the price goes up 5% - im trying to learn.
Are you talking about the uniswap price update? Because the price doesnt automatically adjusts - it relies of traders.

from their REDBOOK "The Ampleforth protocol establishes a set of initial conditions and incentives for the network. And although the protocol propagates price information into supply, it’s the actors that propagate supply information back into price."

>>20607217
>first negative rebase

nigga, this thing has already seen like 4 negative rebase cycles

>>20607212
talking about market psychology retard. catch up

>>20607260
Yes, the price on uniswap automatically updates due to the change of supply in the LP. FAGGOT

>>20607306
KEK. thats uniswap idiot. not the protocol. the protocol has nothing to do with price - only supply. So -- if the market determines that the price "isnt worth it" - it can drop drastically inb4 supply smoothing - yes thats for the supply. there is no price smoothing and now we are RIGHT FUCKING BACK WHERE WE STARTED.

>The Ampleforth protocol establishes a set of initial conditions and incentives for the network. And although the protocol propagates price information into supply, it’s the actors that propagate supply information back into price.

>>20607280
>if AMPL drops from $1 to 50 cents you have half your money
>if you have one BTC and it drops from 10k to 5k you have half your money
>if you have 1k Tesla stock and it drops 50% you have half your money

Do you realize how retarded you sound? You’re speaking in completely hypothetical what if scenarios that could be applied to any type of crypto/stock out there and not just Ampleforth. No shit if something dropped in price 50% you would only have 50% of that money

>>20607263
When it had like 500 dollars daily volume anon

>>20607306
and if you faggots stop taking it so personally - maybe we can actually discuss what a negative rebase environment might be like

>>20607354
Duuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeee what the hell do you think im talking about? you think im calling AMPL stupid? im not. Do you think im fudding? im not.

I said that to PONDER on MARKET PSYCHOLOGY IN A NEGATIVE REBASE ENVIRONMENT
STOP FUCKING SAYING IT CANT HAPPEN... THATS NOT THE FUCKING POINT. IT WILL HAPPEN ITS LITERALLY DESIGNED TO HAPPEN ALL IM DOING IS DISCUSSING THIS SHIT BUT YOU GUYS ARE WAY TOO FUCKING ATTACHED AT THIS POINT TO HAVE A LEVEL HEAD ON THIS

im top wallet too -

>>20606092
the dashboard says it's like this. not sure if the CMC one takes rebases into account or how accurate it is

>>20607369
>>20607405
environment will be fine as long as people understand that no-one is stealing their fucking tokens
based on comments though it seems like 80% of people think this is the case and that they're losing money every negative rebase

>>20607349
So? It's not the protocol, just like how every other protocol doesn't determine price. Price is determined by the market, through relative supply and demand. Uniswap adjusts price based on that.

There's nothing special about the "what if nobody wants it?" argument.

>not realizing that mcap increased in each negative rebase period
>not taking buy pressure into consideration in completely made up scenario
>not realizing all of Uniswaps coins are automatically repriced by relative LP supply

confirmed for brainlet, not gonna make it

>>20607468
>based on comments though it seems like 80% of people think this is the case and that they're losing money every negative rebase
exactly. all i was saying is - whats gonna happen to thousands of retards who dont understand their investment when they see their portfolio drop in value by 50%. thats all. but anons had to pop their head out of their ass and start talking about entirely different shit.

>>20607364
Wrong, just checked. Saw days going back with even $1M volume days.
>>20607369
Don't need to, I can already go back and check. We don't need faggot "what ifs" pulled out of your ass.

>>20607507
How is that different than any other investment you absolute cock gobbler?

>>20607500
>in completely made up scenario
you do realize that was my fucking point, right? I was making up a scenario and WONDERING how retards will react to it. You sir have completely missed my point or even what i was referring to. instead you decided to interject and project your own miss givings onto my posts and then proceeded to demonstrate how you are smarter than your own shadow. Good job, im sure one of you will come out on top.

And the uniswap thing was YOUR mistake - you said "The price also goes up 5%, as negative rebase shrinks supply 5%," implying that the price goes up on its own. it doesnt. there is no guarantee that in that scenario - the price will go up 5% - and that quote from the Redbook was addressed to that implication.

>>20607468
wait, if ampl are added to my wallet during positive rebase, they are not taken away during negative rebase?

>>20607594
Price literally goes up on Uniswap automatically based on supply in the pool. You are a meaty mistletoe kissing retard.

Here's what happened each time in the past when it went under $0.96, whales waited for tards (like you) to sell out then bought the fuck out of it, bringing it back over $1.

>>20607587
sir. what do you think i am trying to accomplish here? do you.. a man of great intellect... think that i am simply bringing this point up in the hopes that i can make you feel insecure in your investment? Or perhaps you think, as an animal, that i am trying to take what is making you happy right now?
Well, my good sir, I am not. I was simply bringing up the tenuous relationship with "retards who dont understand their investment" and the value of their holdings. Noting that such a person - might not have the wits to understand that the value of their investment will recover. This ignorance then cascades into more selling. Its an interesting thought experiment but that is all it is my chap. Have no fear, you have made a good decision buying AMPL and I will never try to take away your happiness.

Good Day to You Sir!

explain geyser

imagine seeing how much attention ampl is capturing and not buying any

>>20607507
yeah, it sucks that there's a delay in price showing
could definitely see a panic sell, but I guess thats good for us since we know how it works

>>20607662
Shut up bitch you make amplets look good

LOL the retards here don't understand that P change instantaneously but supply changes only small % every day and can't keep up with P changing

that means if it crashes, you will not be saved instantaneously! Meaning, people will begin panic selling because the more they've GAINED the better it is to SECURE PROFITS

What happens when people partake in a cascading panic sell at $0.75? Does muh supply save you?

>>20607657
>Price literally goes up on Uniswap automatically based on supply in the pool.
Sir, i was just answering to your implication that the price adjust thru the protocol. Uniswap is merely a singular exchange in this wide and beautiful ecosystem. In the grander picture, it truer to say - the traders determine the price - as the market is bigger than just one exchange.

>>20607662
Didn't happen in the past.
Won't happen in the future.
Shill/Fud elsewhere you seeming seamen semen when you see men.

>>20607696
Heh, it's not "good for us" dude. It will liquidate uniswaps entire ETH pool

>>20607708
idk how these retards cant grasp what im saying. BTC literally went from 300 Billion to 130 Billion over a month. "muh capital" it literally can happen. just because im saying doesnt mean im spreading some bad mojo or something. just trying to discuss it, damn

>>20607714
>Over 70% of circulating supply is traded on one exchange due to geyser incentives, intentionally by devs

It's almost like you were born to be OP.

>>20607767
They don't understand the fact that the supply can't change fast enough to prevent a mass liquidation event.

It's not you it's.... them. Honestly, most people don't understand that and it's sort of bullish IMO because if the ponzi keeps catching on the normies will have a frenzy

>>20607727
good word play anon.

>>20607790
All mass liquidation events in the past have resulted in mass accumulation by whales. Why would that not happen again, and trigger normie FOMO again, continuing to drive up mcap, as has happened in each previous negative rebase period?

>>20607785
>the year is 2050, AMPL is still largely being traded on uniswap. and no major exchange has picked it up.

>>20605216
The secret of ampl is lopsided mathematics. There is unlimited max positive rebase (anything >$1.05) but limited max negative rebase (anything below $0.96) of -10% at $0 price. As long as there is demand, negative rebase will still bring price up back to $1 and start FOMO cycles again. This uneven math effectively makes for trapping more base mcap after each FOMO cycle and raising the collective value of each holder's stack.
The only way value can leave is if there were prolonged 0 demand, which at this point is not realistic.

However, don't let anyone shill you with "muh compounded gains" or any such nonsense. Rebase simply changes supply evenly so everyone still holds the same % of the token supply each night. Money comes in whenever whales or FOMO fags pump the price and requires continuous new demand for mcap (and hence the value of your stack) to continue to accumulate at a meaningful rate.

Advanced level: Learn to play the swings and you can multiply your %stack every FOMO cycle. Sell the top, buy the bottom.

>>20607790
>Honestly, most people don't understand that and it's sort of bullish IMO because if the ponzi keeps catching on the normies will have a frenzy
now you understand. stop fighting it.

>>20607831
Because this was trading on Bitfinex with $100k wash traded volume per day

We are talking about real people trading this shit not bots on a shit exchange. You can't use any pre uniswap data because it's irrelevant

>>20607831
ofcourse it will. but is it that fucking wrong to even discuss it? hell, if we get a better picture - we might be able to maximize our profits.

>>20607856
either way. its unprecedented. any one who thinks they know how it will play out is a certified retard.

>>20607851
$1.50 today anon. Tomorrow $1.10? The normies need to catch on before a negative rebase destroys the pyramid

>>20607841
>the year is 2050, the mcap of AMPL is $100T and no one entity has sufficient supply to drive price below $1. Demand is such that price never moves outside of $0.96-$1.05 range.

>>20607767
You are right on your thoughts anon. Most people (who understand the coin) still fail to understand that this project will overshoot its goal totally and super violently.

Example:
Lets say ampl is on 15b mc end of 2021 but its "real mc" is somewhere around 10bil. Everybody who buys in after 10bil WILL LOSE MONEY.
Sure he can make it back with positive rebase IF the mc of the coin grows together wit the crypto market.
But many will be trapped for a long time with a stablecoin on 1$ they paid 1,5$ for.

IMO we are far away from this point yet it will happen at some point.

>>20607887
fuck yeah anon! lets get rich

>>20607849
>e rebase (anything >$1.05) but limited max negative rebase (anything below $0.96) of -10% at $0 price. As long as there is demand, negative rebase will still bring price up back to $1 and start FOMO cycles again. This uneven math effectively makes for trapping more base mcap after each FOMO cycle and raising the collective value of each holder's stack.
>The only way value can leave is if there were prolonged 0 demand, which at this point is not realistic.
>However, don't let anyone shill you with "muh compounded gains" or any such nonsense. Rebase simply changes supply evenly so everyone still holds the same % of the token su

top and bottom of MC swing you mean, right?

>>20607856
Might want to read data on kookilycoins, el tardo supreme
>>20607857
>can't do math
>doesn't understand how Uniswap works
>thinks his mathematically incorrect and totally made up scenario which contradicts historical price action is feasible

that wasn't your dad's broomstick, anon

>>20607909
the team calls it the "rubber band effect" and like a rubber band, the first pull swings it the farthest

>>20607934
Correct

>>20605091
Where can an EU fag buy ampl?

>>20607909
Depends on how quickly it moves from above $1 to $1. Only if it very quickly did so would people get "trapped". However, at increasingly larger mcaps, the money necessary to move price quickly becomes exponentially greater and there is less incentive to sell out %stake as it will cost much more to buy back.

>>20607994
Uniswap - no matter where you from. Kucoin works too but has KYC as far as I know. Just send eth to your metamask and use uniswap its easy as shit anon.

>>20607957
>doesn't understand how Uniswap works
WTF you keep bringing it up. You were LITERALLY WRONG. Only on uniswap the price adjusts - as for the AMPL "The Ampleforth protocol establishes a set of initial conditions and incentives for the network. And although the protocol propagates price information into supply, it’s the actors that propagate supply information back into price."

>i was correcting you

thinks his mathematically incorrect and totally made up scenario which contradicts historical price action is feasible.

>MC of AMPL went from 50mill --> 800K anon just saying it COULD happen in a panic (not as much as before obviously) it can totally loose 50% - 70% of its MC. kinda like how BTC lost BILLIONS in MC. AMPL is not immune to panic selling retard

so what's with the active team of schizo FUDers on /biz/ surrounding AMPL
it's more than shitposting they're seething

$1.10 tomorrow, enjoy your 1% rebase

>>20608031
>MOMMY MAKE ME FEEL GOOD ABOUT MY INVESTMENT

>>20607909
>Lets say ampl is on 15b mc end of 2021 but its "real mc" is somewhere around 10bil. Everybody who buys in after 10bil WILL LOSE MONEY.
This is unironically better than Bitcoin though

>>20608025
>doesn't know how to format 4chan posts
>lies about getting Uniswap pricing system wrong
>continues to offer "what if" scenarios

It's like killing Al Queerda from an M1 Abrams

who are you quoting

>>20608014
>Depends on how quickly it moves from above $1 to $1.
Yes in some way it does.
>the money necessary to move price quickly becomes exponentially greater
Obvisiously. Yet keep in mind there will be people who are able to dump 100s of million of ampl when they held for 1 year+
So the the increasing of the MC from 10 to 15b should be slower than todays rise but he downfall can be way harder due to many people are in super high profits with many many coins.
>there is less incentive to sell out %stake as it will cost much more to buy back.
This is not true. Its the same as it is today, the MC doesnt matter here. If you sold 10 hours ago and had 1% of the mc you could now rebuy 1,2-1,4%.
It wouldnt be different on a 15bil mc if the price drops violently.

These supreme commander retards aren't getting it. This investment is incredibly risky. I wish there was an option to send a gold star to your home through metamask guys

>>20608126
The problem for large whales selling at higher mcaps is the range of potential volatility is much lower, because at higher mcaps there is a much greater demand to soak the dump, and much less profit potential due to the smaller range the price can travel.

What others in the thread are offering are scenarios where there is some price cascade that wrecks the mcap down 50+%, which is simply unreasonable. Further, to bolster that thought, they rest it on pulling numbers out of the air with little regard to historical price action or norms within mainstream crypto projects. The chances of catastrophic mcap collapse are more real now, than in the future, but even now have been shown to be misplaced with the other times that negative rebase has supposed to be the sign of the collapse.

Mathematically, this thing is designed to trap value and be resistant to that value loss.

Something you all forget: in some days/weeks alot of people will have that much ample, that they don't care if it falls below one dollar and will dump the shit out of it

Also why it should stay a dollar? That will never happen

Who wants a stable coin that isn't really stable and if it dumps you can loose another 10% easily

Guys will soon have millions or 100 of millions ample if it grows steady

I would sell 10million even for 0.01 or lower

>>20608248
there was a marketcap drop of over 50% less than 2 weeks ago

The MCap ATH break even price today is $2.20. I wonder if we'll see $2.20 again today.... hmmmmmm

>>20607667
great way to miss out on rebase gains if that's your thing

>>20608282
Please show me on the chart where the AMPL touched you. Did it trigger a mass negative rebase cycle of death then, anon? Or an erection on your part?

>>20607909
the retards you're talking about will be bought out by smart whales no problem
I think you guys are being way too hyperbolic and underestimating how stable the coin will be at high market caps like 10billion
by that point people will be using it as a reserve and for other uses that there won't actually be that many people still in the pot that are holding their bags at 1$

>>20608351
I just checked my dick and I am hard

>>20608351
i touched that chart before it even started. just wanted to point out that -50% isn't unlikely

>>20604568
Is this the dip i've been waiting for?

>>20607994
You buy Ethereum. Then swap that shit for Ampleforce

>>20604612
When does the rebase happen? I bought yesterday just before 9pm and my AMPL count hasn't changed.

>>20604648
And the best part of it?
Jews created AMPL. And jews control 30% of its elastic total. So this coin will assure that the jews stay in control, no matter what. Even if bitcoin hits a million. The jews outsmarted us in our own crypto domain. Well done.

4 weeks later than everyone else
Welcome to a winning team

I warned you yesterday to sell at 3$ buy at 1,30 you didn’t listen.
Rebase is for dumb and poor fags. This is not where money is made. I REPEAT THIS IS NOT WHERE MONEY IS MADE AND WHALE KNEW THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
I double my stack everyfucking day with no rebase. I sell the top i buy the low. You fuckers don’t get trapped in the rebase game. There is very little chance ampl will ever surpass 3$ and whales will make sure it will not. Because they dont want you fuckers to get 30-40+%. They are happy with dumped the price at 3$ all the way down to 1$ trippling their investment while you get ridiculous 10% rebase in average.
Here me out this is literally the easiest coin to trade. Go the telegram group all of them crying holding bags meanwhile im x2 my investment twice in a week. play the whales game do not chase rebases.

>>20604696
>he can't even wait 1 week when banks loan houses at 1%/yr

everyone's brain become butter in 3 months really time they open schools back up.

>>20610953
No thanks. I will take a guaranteed 10% over a potentially risky swing trade.

>>20611064
Stay poor fuckers i started like u now im a ampl whale. Because i was smart enough to sell at the top and dont give a fuck about rebase. I rebase only on the way up.

>>20611357
You mean like this way up right now?

Yes i bought this morning at 1,50$ im holding it till 3$. Just x4 my stack + the rebase on the way up. While most people just got 10-15% rebase LOL are looking max for 50% more. Me 430%!!!

>>20611064
Yeah follow the herd mentality. There is a reason why there is just a few number of whales while the rest get dumped on twice a week. Keep holding it works.

Can any fellow amplechads tell me if the Geyser is worth it rn? I have a small stack :( and I don't know if it would make a difference.

>>20605792
since you arent funny you must be a midwit or lower. we invited you to inhale zyklon b recreationally.

>>20610953
bitch then trade shitcoins newly posted on /biz rather than ample if u enjoy catching the top and bottom . damn

>>20612194
Fuck you. Im just trying to help people here. This is all gonna end up soon once it hits 1b$.

>>20611735
People who brag usually don’t win in the end.

>>20612576
When people finally win they usually don't announce it to the world. 400% is something but any shitcoin can do that.

>>20607767

Yeah but if the whole world is a Ponzi, and this little guy has a 275m MC with 10k users and 10% uptrending rebase while the inversely correlated BTC is pumping, you’re actually the retard for not having some skin in the game to see how this all plays out. Some of these liquidity solutions for yield farming are fucking dinosaur garbage and you know it.

>>20612677
There’s more than 10k u idiot. There are at least 5 exchanges wallets in count, with thousands of holders.

>>20612912

Yeah but not 10s of thousands on each exchange. Go look for yourself. You can fool 100-200k crypto holders during a bull run easy. Give me a fucking break. You severely overestimate the intelligence of the investing populace.

>>20612912

Also check my dubs
Also j+ in my ID

>Literal jewposting
The house always wins