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So tell me anons. Is South Africa a good place to start a company for someone without the huge sums needed to succeed in the west?

Any anons with personal experiences investing or doing business in South Africa? I see stories around of people making good money in parts of Africa. Is there a better part of Africa to work out of?

>> No.20591870

It's full of niggers. That's a deal breaker for many people.

>> No.20591931

>>20591802
What do you need to do? I can help.

>> No.20592052

>>20591802
There are too many niggers

>> No.20592084

>>20591802
What about all them niggas?

>> No.20592115

>>20591870
Yea. I admit that as a skinny white boy I'm scared. But risk versus reward you know. Labour costs are lower and China has been investing in parts of Africa which opens up export oportunities.

I am also apprehensive about the amount of debt incurred by the western nations as a result of the pandemic and I suspect taxes will go up. I like low taxes.

But physical safety aside I would like to know what to expect regarding corruption and maybe even having assets seized given the history there. I'm hoping that's just related to whites who own large tracts of land there and not somebody owning a small industrial facility and giving people jobs.

>> No.20592127

>>20591802
Not enough niggers, try Congo.

>> No.20592218

>>20591931
Simple concept at this stage is to purchase and process agricultural products for export.

>> No.20592643

>>20591802
Yes if you want a corrupt government skimming your money, compulsory workers who don't turn up and steal and then a drive to work so dangerous you might as well drive an APC.

>> No.20592664

>>20591802
1. Travel where you want to invest.

2. South Africa is anti white, anti Chinese, go to youtube, you have niggers wanting to rob you and yell white privilege while their own government fail them.
3. Youtube home invasions south africa, niggers break in and do whatever and shoot tons of innocent white farmers.

4. AFrica has many infrasturcture issues, have you seen the prorperty? Are you comfy living in a shitty built concrete house, in an area w/ poor disaster relief and no western accommodations and needing to be sad cause no walmart, no ben jerrys ice cream at 2am?

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The only good money is exploiting labor, keeping capital offshore the country in safe countries and floating enough to keep expenses paid and maybe net -30 terms.

Credit does not exist, as white man, sure you get some leway but you're going to do what?

Tech? HAH.
Farm? That's not bad, you can innovate and increase crop production, but then how do you sell, export it?
Mining? Already a big game.

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There is opportunity, but this board is not to ask. I had similar visions as you anon, but I went to South East Asia, Vietnam and Philippines.

I made good money, I made many frens and a few enemies.

1. Money talks - always have it and be a lannister. You have no real friens or family.

2. Marry a good politically connected couple. Cuts through alot, and connections really matter.

3. Put a baby in her, they won't kill the father that easily, and if she *really* loves you, you're safe.

4. Don't fuck a high end politicans daughter. Don't do it. Been there, done that, it's fun, it's a great thrill, but I always do wonder...

5. Incorporate back home with a good LLC//Corp name, bullshit capital, or whatever.

6. Upon landing, go to biggest bank, have previous appointment, wine and dine the account managers. No need for Visa or shit if you talk the talk and walk the walk.

7. Be prepared to never relate to anyone back home - and be prepared to really enjoy the simple things

>> No.20592734

>>20592115
lol, China has been investing in Africa to have a claim on the LAND and the PORTS. They don't give a shit about the people. IF they could get away with gassing them all, they would. Exports for the chinese Economy. You, as a white boy, dont' get to play in CCP.

Fuck man, just cause you see chinese throw money doesn't mean it's profitable or really worth it, if you knew how much more money was being thrown in Cambodia you'd be there to fuck the asian pussy and get yourself involved in financial services.

Fucking you're on a crypto board and don't think chinese + cyrpto + currency controls.

God damn it, fucking /biz/ has gone to shit.

>> No.20592789

>>20591802
i use dether.io to buy and sell crypto in SA, works very well

>> No.20592876

>>20592218
You want to base in Cape town. It has a large port. Cost of living if you're earning in USD or GBP is low and is safe if you're in the right area. I live here and I'm white. It's a beautiful city but you need to know the do's and don'ts.

>> No.20592938

>>20592789
You do not. Shill that scam somewhere else.

>> No.20593093

>>20592218
The large majority of agriculture is still done by white farmers. The quality is good and they're organised. I cannot see how it might be profitable though as the shipping costs might be exorbitant and the profit margin low. Unless you're doing really large volume.

>> No.20593151

My company, a US distributor for an Asian manufacturer, gets a lot of business inquiries from Africa. Many manufacturers are missing Africa in their distribution network. I would personally go that route as distribution is a fairly simple business to operate and can start very small.

>> No.20593222

Are you a retard? There are far better places in S. America and Eastern Europe to examine. This place is going straight to shit and the niggercommie takeover of government is nearly complete.

>> No.20593327

>>20592643
I'm expecting that if I want to avod issues with minor government officials I would have to put something in the pocket of people higher up. I was planning to only have a very basic set of infrastructure so I can just jump ship if it gets out of control.

I was worried about things like workers comp because even in the west that system gets milked all the time. If they steal fruits and vegetables I'm not losing too much.

The compulsory workers thing is a new concept to me though and I can't find any info online. Could you elaborate?

But it sounds about how I expected. When in Rome and all that.

>>20592664
>>20592734
That seems like solid advice. Thanks anons.
>>20592876
>>20593093
Seems like a place to feel out. I'd like to dip my toes in at least before throwing the whole idea in the trash. As a minimum I would learn a helluva lot.

>> No.20593436

>>20593327
Some of the advice is not solid at all for SA. Just the opposite.

Let me know if there are any more questions and good luck.

>> No.20593577

>>20592664
>South Africa is anti white, anti Chinese, go to youtube
There’s approximately 600 US companies doing business in South Africa alone and China is its largest trading partner.

>> No.20593579

>>20593327
If you just want very basic infrastructure, definitely do distribution. My company began with just one person and a van where the inventory was kept. As the customer base increases, you can easily expand into a small warehouse and even then you only need a couple employees to help with shipping, sales, and order processing.

>> No.20593617

>>20593151
The idea of having a warehouse full of valuable goods anywhere in Africa honestly scares the piss out of me. Something or me to consider though.

>>20593436
I am aiming for preserved farm products. Will the longer shelf life bring down the cost of shipping? Fresh produce just seems crazy to me out of SA. It seems too far from everywhere.

>> No.20593785

>>20593617
Yes, you can create them and out them into shipping containers. Insurance in your products will also be relatively cheap compared. Most business parks have dedicated 24/7 security, electric fence and surveillance alarms and one entrance. Your product isn't going anywhere easily.

>> No.20593817
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20593817

>>20592115
Aren't taxes in SA just going to get worse as time goes on like they inevitably do whenever niggers have a political majority?

>> No.20593832

>>20593785
>Crate them and put...

>> No.20593879

>>20593577
Great, 600 companies for one entire country for USA.

That really makes it seem business friendly and low risk. You convinced me anon.

How many is that per citizen? What do they do? Export or import?

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>>20593579
This is the fucking worst, you'll have lazy employees, hell you'll even have assistants that'll fucking cut your head off american psycho style because you caught them stealing.

Niggers aren't to be trusted, you're not their savior and you're not the smartest whitey there.

Roads are shit.

Limited deployment of Gas stations.

Cars are going to break and you're going tow ait forever for parts.

most people don't have cars, so they'll depend on you to buy.

MOtorcycles too. Parts, no money, stolen, etc.

So you'll do a capital investment, and hire labor - what happens, they don't come back and keep the car/bike for the province.

So then you got to do what, write it off or send out security to execute a few fuckers so the others know not to step out of line?

Logistics, infrastructure is the WROST thing and it will always be a loss leader, look at fucking Uber. And they own NOTHING.

>>20593617
Correct anon, you keep minimal inventory. You export, you keep them at or near the docks and get it the fuck out quickly, and probably have a few custom agents on payroll, weekly, so you interuprt the payment and ask them what the fuck is going on/fix it and they will.

Preserved farm products aren't a great market to be in - lol, what are you going to produce jams and jellies? LOL

You do raw material, export it to 2nd country for processing and then final destination, hopefully along the way.

China, though, does not give a shit and they have more trust among their people.

Anon, you sound smart, but, lower cost == higher risk, and around niggers never relax.

Go to asia if you really want to play or eastern europe. Africa is dead.

>> No.20593923

>>20593817
For residents. However the government wants external investment. With covid, taxes have actually decreased.

>> No.20594031

well white people don't run it anymore, so it's on the road to collapse. even if you defy the odds and create a successful business, the blacks will just take it and kill your family.

>> No.20594160

>>20593879
>>>20593577
>Great, 600 companies for one entire country for USA.
>
>That really makes it seem business friendly and low risk. You convinced me anon.
>
>How many is that per citizen? What do they do? Export or import?
>
>--
>
>>>20593579
>This is the fucking worst, you'll have lazy employees, hell you'll even have assistants that'll fucking cut your head off american psycho style because you caught them stealing.
>
>Niggers aren't to be trusted, you're not their savior and you're not the smartest whitey there.
>
>Roads are shit.
>
Bullshit.

>Limited deployment of Gas stations.
>
There are two within 3km of me right now.

>Cars are going to break and you're going tow ait forever for parts.

Bullshit. Fixed same day.
>
>most people don't have cars, so they'll depend on you to buy.
>
Bullshit. There is public transport for black people.

>MOtorcycles too. Parts, no money, stolen, etc.
>

Bullshit.

>So you'll do a capital investment, and hire labor - what happens, they don't come back and keep the car/bike for the province.

Bullshit.
>
>So then you got to do what, write it off or send out security to execute a few fuckers so the others know not to step out of line?
>

You call the cops and insurance. You get a new car.

>Logistics, infrastructure is the WROST thing and it will always be a loss leader, look at fucking Uber. And they own NOTHING.

Bullshit. Uber is thriving here.

>> No.20594170

>>20593579
The guys I have heard of pulling big money out of Africa are doing distribution on contracts for NATO and aid agencies. The way they have to do it though... It seems a whole level above me.

The guy making the money actually paid some other white guy a fortune to be co-driver to the black guy. Probably so the whole lot wasn't stolen and he wouldn't end up with his own throat cut. Scary stuff.

Then there was the roads... Distribution in Africa seems really dangerous. You go to the wrong place and people will kill you for your van.

>> No.20594224

>>20593923
But OP is going to be a resident. You're telling me they don't soak anyone with visible net worth over 100k? If I make 100k a year, how much do I have to give up every year to support an entire country of Shaniqua's babies?

>> No.20594277

>>20593923

Lmao, that is a trick anon. These people are incredibly short sighted and extractive. Sure, invest and set up a business, then have it seized.

>> No.20594377

>>20594224
His business isn't. And he'll pay himself a small salary in local currency and use his USD bank card at the ATM that's linked to his Forex account.

>> No.20594407

>>20592664
Quick rundown on what you did in sea? Just buy raw shit from producers and get it out of the country to refiners/manufacturers? In the 2nd World/BRIC?

>> No.20594433

>>20594277
I live here. I would know.

>> No.20594845

>>20594160
I disagree with everything you disagreed with me on, solely because Africa is the shit tier of the world and I know for sure they don't have their game together on infrastructure, gas, car parts distribution, car part reliability, road reliability, motorcycles, and security.

Uber is a loss leader for SA market, read the annual report.

"Call the cops and insurance"

Great, how much money for the cops to fetch the car and how many weeks for standard charter to replace the car?

-- I could be wrong, I'm jaded w/ Asia and make good money, but I'd never stoop to dealing with niggers daily and I ran into all these shows in fucking Asialand.

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>>20594407
Arbitrage, ordered en masse, shipped sea freight to SEAworld, vice versa for local manufactured products, medication and other stuff of antiquity.

Invested in economic zones, hired locals, run boring back office stuff that have higher returns vs having to carry inventory.

Still do some arbitrage by importing stuff to western world and some pocket money when I go there, like 30 macbooks that have 20%+ markup, they move quickly.

Don't try it in Vietnam, they'll seize shit if you bring in more than one - it's also small but it's a great way to pay for the flight and hotel.

You really need to wine and dine people though.

Wanted to try it with cars but it's not worth it anymore. :(

>> No.20594934

>>20594845
Wait you're saying you imported shit INTO cambodia to sell? From where?

>> No.20595006

>>20594934
Never been to Cambodia, actually..

>> No.20595372

>>20594845
To be fair he is talking about Cape Town. I have heard from others that city is relatively safe and livable (comparatively).

Outside that city? Could be anything goes.

>> No.20595400

>>20595372
Cape town is pretty first world. Providing you stay in the rich white areas.

>> No.20596335

>>20592664
Probably the wildest biz larp I’ve seen in a long time

>> No.20596505

>>20594160
How is south Africa?

>> No.20596946

>>20591802
I'm susprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but there are a shit-ton of niggers in South Africa.