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20586472 No.20586472 [Reply] [Original]

DeFi is completely unsustainable.
If eth 2.0 doesn't come out this year we will either crash really hard or people will start migrating to other chains...

>> No.20586559

it keeps the pajeets out

>> No.20586598

>>20586472
Just wait till Elrond launches and unironically flips ETH with its 200k TPS and low fees.

>> No.20586627

>>20586559
but it also makes crypto completely useless in the real world. If you can't make a small transaction without paying insane fees it will never get adopted

>> No.20586980

Wait till Fantom Finance releases this week and all the Defi will migrate to it

>> No.20587034
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>>20586598
Elrond a shit, doesn't even have a mainnet launched.

Harmony is the future.

>> No.20587065

>>20586472
No it won't
LRC is already on L2 and uniswap and synethix are migrating to OVM later this year
Eth has all the capital, no whale is going to switch to some other chain with 0 volume because of $4 gas fees LMFAO
only pajeets are priced out as we dump our 100% weekly ROI bags on their dumbass heads

>> No.20587103

Masternodes --> Crypto kitties --> PoWH pyramids --> "DeFi"

What is the next pyramidscam?

>> No.20587157

cardano launches smart contracts eoy. eth2 will launch in 2022

>> No.20587164

>>20587065
other layer 2 scaling solutions are going live, and will continue to add enormous value by reducing fees and increasing throughput

>> No.20587179

>>20587065
explain for a brainlet please. LRC is loopring, correct? is OVM the Ontology Virtual Machine? I seem to remember those projects were related

>> No.20587193
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>>20586472
Don't worry OP iExec has already solved it. You had 19 years :)

>> No.20587221

>>20586627
Crypto isnt for poorfags. If you cant make large transactions kys

>> No.20587236

>>20586472
Phase 0 and phase 1 of ETH2.0 will not give any relief. large projects need to switch to L2. Especially for uniswap there needs to be an L2 version. If Tether would finally switch to plasma then this would also help a lot, but of course they can't get their shit together.

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>>20587157
Cardano is literal shit that's on its deathbed mate

>> No.20587261

>>20587103
ampl

>> No.20587287

>>20587179
LRC is looping
OVM has nothing to do with chink scam chains

>> No.20587307

>wants adoption
>gets adoption

>this is a problem

OOK?

>> No.20587326

>>20587221
This. I paid about $15 for contract interactions on DYDX to deposit funds and then margin trade. I make that money back if ETH goes up even 10 cents with the size of my position. So I really don't give a shit.

>> No.20587327

>>20587034
You realize that Elrond is going to shit all over Harmony. At this point you might as well come home white man. ERD is the future.

>> No.20587412

Yeah

BSV is ready. Has been. Will continue to be.

Speak to developers, not 4chan retards. Listen to their experiences building on each chain.

>> No.20587495

>>20587241
explain why

>> No.20587508

>>20586980
fantom has 5 tps

>> No.20587514

>>20587287
Optimistic Virtual Machine, got it. Also LRC is a chinese team lol

>> No.20587538
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20587538

FANTOM FINANCE IS LAUNCHING RIGHT NOW.

NOT NEXT YEAR, NOT EOY.

NOW

AND IT'S A FUCKING DAG WITH TURBO TPS

>> No.20587619

>>20587538
fantom has only 5 tps

the scam got exposed here
>>20574808

>> No.20587643
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20587643

twitter.com/FantomFinance/status/1285528477018591234?s=20

It's already happening lmao

>> No.20587663

>>20586472
>Doesn’t know about ftm
My sides

>> No.20587682

>>20587619
Keep seething you fucking faggot

>> No.20587686

>>20587538
I see it's already been posted

The potential of their crypto-agnostic DeFi is yuge

>> No.20587704

>>20587643
>>20587663
fantom has only 5 tps

the scam got exposed here
>>20574808

>> No.20587714

>>20587619

I tried your experiment. And you're right! Holy shit!

Except here's the IQ test part, Ace.
Instead of immediately agreeing with your scam "discovery", I tried something else:

Open two or three browser windows to the same site.
Click the first window button four or five times (for a couple of hundred transactions) and start your timer.
Then immediately jump to another window and click that button once.
Click on the top transaction hash for the second window and watch it quickly show "success" (check the official testnet explorer too if you like).
Then jump back to the first window you hammered and see the top hash of your original clicks is still validating.

Since you still probably don't get it, let me explain. It's a FUCKING THROTTLE for transactions coming from the same address. And I think 5 per second **per user** is FUCKING PLENTY. Don't you??

Fucking pleb lost his fanties now he's mad

>> No.20587786

>>20587704
Stay away from this easily disproven retard

>> No.20587793

>>20587714
what happens if a botnet sends more than 5 per user?

>> No.20587803
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>>20587495
It's not Ethereum.
This is hard for you to accept but it's the truth. Ethereum has way too much of an active development community and way too much momentum with its first mover advantage.

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>>20587714
> Open two or three browser windows to the same site.

i did and it still 5 tps
explain this pic rajeet

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>>20587806

I don't know fag. Maybe because you're a fag?

THIS IS NOW A FANTOM THREAD

>> No.20587855

LINK will succeed because it can live without Ethereum. That is literally all that made LINK special.

ETH is a bigger shitcoin than Bitcoin. You cannot prove me wrong.

>> No.20587892

>>20587714
Holy shit I did this and the tps was insane

>> No.20587897

High value, low volume. This is the wei.

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tfw you already have a lost cost defi solution that's scalable

>> No.20587907

>>20586472
eth will be $500 soon so gas will double in fiat price too lol

>> No.20587930

>>20587221
Crypto is about breaking away from the central banks and government control of the financial system, it was never supposed to be about get rich quick schemes, but I guess this is where we are...

>>20587326
No one is talking about margin trading on exchanges you fucking faggot, I can also make way more than 15 bucks in a few seconds if I want to. I'm talking about real life usage of crypto and not having to rely on fiat for everyday usage. High fees like this pretty much kill its usability.
We are nowhere near mainstream adoption and things are already this bad...

>> No.20587931

>>20587806
Your posts smell like the street you live in.

That data is from a testnet 7 months ago, with micro instances, you fucking tech illiterate street shitter

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>>20587034
>>20587327
You kids are hilarious.

Harmony is already on the move.

>> No.20587996

>>20586598
Misspelled polkadot

>> No.20588000

>>20587984
the number of pajeets is too dam high

>> No.20588052
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20588052

Hmmm Ethereum defi too slow? What system could possibly solve this problem right now?

>> No.20588056

>>20588000
checked
but I'm not big on Fantom. I think you'll obviously make money, but if we're doing a ETH flip thread, Harmony is the clear winner.

>> No.20588099

>>20588056
People, devs and attention will go where the money is, and Fantom DeFi suite is going to attract a fuckton of it

>> No.20588103

>>20587855
>can't live without
Link is an ERC token

>ETH is a bigger shitcoin than Bitcoin. You cannot prove me wrong.
Try to use arguments. ETH has active devs and is technically the better coin. ETH2.0 will introduce staking (which I'm not terribly excited about but hey it's something). BTC will always be nothing more than a store of value. However Bitcoin was the first, it started this whole thing and therefore IMO can't be flipped without some sort of paradigm shift that no one sees at this point.

>> No.20588108

>>20586598
Just like FTM and Harmony did lmao

>> No.20588127

>>20587221
retard, what if I'm trying to purchase something that isn't a car or a house?

>> No.20588188

>>20587714
>>20587845
>>20587897
>>20587905
>>20588000
>>20588052
>>20588056

fantom has only 5 tps

the scam got exposed here
>>20574808

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>>20588188
You seem upset

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>>20586472
to the rescue

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>>20588188
>5 posts by this ID
>all claiming fantom TPS is low
>when everyone can clearly see fantom TPS is high
Dam nigga where did Fantom touch u

>> No.20588287

>>20587930
Agreed. And yes this is where we are. No one cares about the tech, which is already 10 years old at this point (which is not young when it comes to tech).

Truth is usage is dropping. People don't care enough about the tech, they invest in coins with veiled interest in the technology and blockchain *cough Link cough* but if you question them on the tech, they can't offer anything but snide remarks. It's all about price action and if you can't see this you're insane. And I don't blame them.

I've noticed the Uniswap fees becoming outrageous as well. It's really sad to see people rationalizing it because they're essentially giving their money to a bank. Which is, as you say, the entire reason Bitcoin was developed.

As of today crypto is mostly impractical to use as a currency and is nothing more than a speculative investment.

>> No.20588327

kek, the amount of fantom shills itt is way too high
btw, I'm still bullish on ethereum, simply due to the fact that it's the chain with the most developers and most adoption, but fuck man, they really need to fix these scalability issues

>> No.20588390

Lol DeFi wars
Entertain us with your financial aberrations, trustless ponzi products, and pump our bags
>permisionless leveraged hot air on the blockchain
>trustless quantitative easing on the blockchain
Thanks to the anon who made me laugh so hard imitating finance buzzwords
Make us rich fags
>

>> No.20588400

>>20588327
They will.... in 2050 kek

>> No.20588448

>>20588390
stay poor

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>>20586472
ETH cucks and Vit the Ped worshippers will and are defending this.

>> No.20588508

>>20588103
>can't be flipped without some sort of paradigm shift that no one sees at this point.
Ampleforth

>> No.20588524

>>20588287
That's why I believe in XRP

>> No.20588732

>>20587508
Proof?

>> No.20588795

>>20588732
There's no proof, he's just a loser faggot who sold the bottom

>> No.20588818
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The new face of DeFi. You may not like but its the future.

>> No.20588820

>>20586627
Lol, stay mad rentfree libtard

>> No.20588875

>>20586472
OR they use FTM to massively improve transaction rates and interchain operability.

>> No.20588903

>>20588127
I can see your future, toiling away in the wastelands outside the impenetrable walls of my Crypto Citadel. Stay poor faggot. The fees just got 10 gwei higher

>> No.20588910

why do I never get these absurd fees for "small transactions" but people who hate Ethereum do? Maybe they can tell that you're a faggot and charge you a higher price

>> No.20588916

>>20588875
yep, The discord trannies are here.
Get that degeneracy out of our threads.

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>>20586598
Saves the ETH 2.0

>> No.20588951

SOON ALL DEFI WILL BE MOVING TO MICHAEL CHEN CHINESE FANTOM COIN !

>> No.20588989
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OHHHH YES YES YES

>> No.20589210

>>20587538

What wallet y’all use for fantom?

>> No.20589232

>>20586472
just wait until we start sharting

itll fix all our problems

>> No.20589271

>>20586472
TEZOS you brainlet. or cuck them all and buy LOKI.

>> No.20589329

>>20586472
>>20586627

sometimes the gas fees are high when you're trading fractions of obscure coins, like 124983.4524626 of shite token, try and round it to 124983 or 124900 SHITE instead. idk why it does that

>> No.20589415

>>20586472
You are trying to claim COMP? If you borrow or deposit anything it’ll get auto claimed. I pay 1.40-4.10$ and I get almost everyrhing first time. If you are a poorfag you need to accept somethings just aren’t for you

>> No.20589460

>>20586472
I want to send the random shitcoins of no value I have to people out of spite sometimes but if it costs actual money it's not worth it.

>> No.20589618

Fantom.finance iykyk

>> No.20590783

Projects are already moving away from Ethereum folks. Finance is moving to Algorand, most other big corporates are moving to IOTA.

>> No.20590893

>>20590783
literally no one is moving to Algorand or IOTA(?!)

>> No.20590955

ETH MAXIES SEETHING

Cope more fags

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>>20587495
14tps shitcoin (anything higher is not on mainnet and just a "roadmap")

>> No.20591563

>>20591395
its launching in a week