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First for based anime

It is time for dinner. Europe opening soonish.

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DENNY'S BROS WHERE ARE WE

>>20572116

anyone else holding a bag of SHLL (hyliion)

>>20572177
Soon. After earns.

>>20572128
I want you to suffer, not going to give you any reassurances.

reminder you cannot talk about mining stocks because it is somehow not related to the stock market
Now back to tech

NTH FOR METAL OF THE PRECIOUS KINDS.

10th for CLSK predictions tommorow?

>>20572156
Blessed post.
>>20572165
What’s for din din?

>>20572191
I WILL RENAME THIS THREAD TO STOCK MARKET AND COMMODITIES AND DERIVATIVES AND LEVERAGED INVERSE HORSE RACING WAGERS GENERAL AND YOU CANNOT STOP ME

>>20572177
6 contracts $10c 8/21 REPORTING FOR FAT GAINS SIR

Hello from Fremont.
Tesla will post earnings of $0.17 per share tomorrow.
Don't tell the SEC I said this.

Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.
>Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.
Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.
>Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.
Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.
>Daily reminder that if you support any rights for faggots besides the right to a bullet in the head, you support child molestation. These people are so deranged in the fucking head that they each each others feces, and yet plenty of Americans are happy to see them "married." You deserve what's happening to your country.

>>20572206
>What’s for din din?
potatoes and sausage and maybe a some eggs. I am on high calorie power man diet right now.

>>20572145
whatever the cause, it does not change the fact of where we are and where we're going. Economy is in a full bubble that is bound to pop soon.

What's the newest meme stock that hasnt dumped yet? I need some gains tomorrow bros

>>20572254
if ur looking for something that hasnt dumped yet youre already too late

Being a sex offender is the worst thing ever
How do I even come back from this?

>>20572236

Does anyone know why CLSK is up? i saw it PnD today but it's just keeps on going up
>>20572245
>>>/pol/
rent free

>>20572236
Can I get a code name from you that I can yell at in tomorrow's /smg/ breads in case you are right

>>20572199
Musta-krakish
Musta-krakish
Musta-krakish (The time has come)
Musta-krakish (To awaken silver)
Musta-krakish
Musta-krakish
Musta-krakish (I call upon the ancient lords of the Bogs)
Musta-krakish (To bring forth this element and)
Awaken, awaken, awaken, awaken
Take the gains, that must be taken
Awaken, awaken, awaken, awaken
Devour fiat, smite forsaken
Rise up from your thousand year-old sleep
Break forth from your grave eternally
I command you to rise, rise, rise, rise
Rise, rise, rise, rise

>>20572184
How long are we holding CLSK? Is $18 target obtainable?

what a chad
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC66e0eHFN6/

>>20572236
Nice image, faggot.

https://electrek.co/2020/07/15/tesla-fremont-factory-shutdown-upgrades-new-assembly-line/

>>20572314
i think they'll need to re-evaluate after the recent share sell of thing that happened, but I'm curious too.

When is GNUS earnings? Asking for a bagholding friend

>>20572202
>>20572314
WERE GOING TO STEAL THE MOON!

>>20572245
Faggots run the world

There used to be a lot of valid ways to invest, but the only two theories that make sense right now are doombull and black swan. You either buy inflation or you pray shit hits the fan so unexpectedly that we get a selloff that can combat it.

Ready to get your mind blown? What if the stock market never recovered... what if the stock market is only up to account for all the future inflation as a result of all this money printing? I predict that we will see massive runaway inflation of all goods starting within a year that perfectly explains the V correction in the stock market.

>>20572236
Ok Rabbi Wimo

>>20572367
the crab

>>20572287
I'm not a tripfag but my nickname is Potato Wedge at work. I can't guarantee Tesla going up or down though, I just know that they're going to eek out a $0.17 EPS by the skin of their teeth.

>>20572254
ZOM

Any precious metal related stock you invest in will move in the exact opposite direction you need it to move.
Just accept it. You are not allowed to make it and will need to wage slave for the rest of your life.

>>20572327
I can't post an actual image since that shit will get traced back to me, retard. You don't have to believe me, it's not like EPS or real insider information guarantees the stock price going up or down - that's dependent on the market, which is you.

>>20572390
Why would you come onto the Internet and tell lies?

>>20572367
What’s an example of a black swan strat ?

How all you faggots investing in tech right now instead of precious metals will be.

>>20572430
holding SPXS SDOW VXX

Is SPY gonna retest 320 in the next few days or are my putterinos cooked

>>20572441
Imagine not buying tech months ago

>>20572441
Which is which?

>Bogdanoffs have been hoarding silver since the dawn of time at Ft. Bogdanoff
>Rothschilds purchasing Gold to distract from Bogdanoff silver accumulation
>NASDAQ is a huge PM laundering scheme
>Tesla is this laundering scheme on steroids
>Magpies encode ancient knowledge into silver
>Grays value silver in a 1:4 ratio with gold
>Silver amplifies ESP abilities
>The last global collapse was from wars fought over silver
>Shadow banks settle debts with silver bullion
>Silver been the world's currency through three civilization cycles
>Silver will be the currency of the first mars colonies
>Jeffrey Epstein was deeply involved in brokering illegal CP - (Silver) Coin Purchases
>Silver is encoded to restore telomeres indefinitely
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be blue
>Silver stackers alleged to have an average IQ of 215+
>Silver rods applied near the prostate gives you a direct line to the clockwork elves

>>20572280
Because I keep buying more and more and many other smart people are doing the same. Do some DD and hold this for a while UAVS is another that will reward those who hold. I see UAVS breaking past $100 in less than 4 years.

>>20569897
I'm an asialand anon, bored with the girls here. It depends upon your taste, do you like petite loli-like girls? I prefer tall girls, C cup tits and blonde hair is a huge plus, so asialand girls do not satisfy me. How is euroland? Do the girls there accept an asian manlet such as me?

>>20572464
Retest of the lows tomorrow my dad works for Nintendo, tipped me off

>>20572441
Compare qqq since april 1 to metals

>>20572345
It's not until August 17. Sell, dude. No reason to hold

>>20572418
Sweetie, I work for Tesla, asked Elon Musk about this, and he told me to tell you that "ur a faggot". Having actual experience with Tesla and SpaceX, I know how quickly you would get fired and probably sued if you leaked the EPS number here and your supposed nickname. Factory workers also don't have access to that information.

What does this mean

>>20572468
Tech is the cat

>>20572337
Look more closely into why they might be raising capital. Its not continuing operations, much more likely preparing for some big projects.

>>20572500
Based Musk

How ready are you guys for TSLA's earning tomorrow? I'm gonna load up first thing in the morning and clench up my buttocks once 4pm hits. My body is fucking ready.

>>20572271
Story? There really isn't a way.

is investing with margin on RH into ETFs worth if i have a small account? 5% annual seems easy to beat

>>20572430
Long volatility is a universal one. Event based you could buy commodity futures for food shortages or supply chain collapses, maybe defense stocks for wars.

>>20572418
>insider posts on /biz/
>some journalist: OH MY REDDIT! REDDIT THIS REDDIT THAT
It’s probably for he better that you reset your router while you’re at it.

OKAY WOAH..

RED FUTURES ALWAYS LEAD TO A GREEN OPEN

GREEN FUTURES ALWAYS LEAD TO A RED OPEN

NASDAQ IS VIBRANT GREEN RIGHT NOW

>>20572519
I'm ready to buy when it dips and then soars immediately after, this is going to be a legendary move in the stock market, totally unprecedented, if you end up jumping off a building just remember you were a party of history

on a side note i bought some ford options and i suggest everyone else do the same as a safety net

>>20572367
Or you just buy a fucking mutual fund.

>>20572492
J-JUST WAIT ANY SECOND NOW THE MARKET WILL CRASH

MSFT is gonna blow their earnings report out of the water right? +$5 spike after hours tmw?

Inflation is a meme. Even if it happens you’ll be fine if you keep 1% of less of your wealth in cash. Stay away from cash!!

CALX mooning AH. Saw this shilled last week when it was $6. Fuck man I just want an endorphin rush

>>20572468

>tfw poo
>family has a stupid amount of gold and silver because of cultural reasons
>will be protected in case SHTF
cool, i guess

>>20572558
That’s what the MM’s want you think this time, this is a 5D chess move. Fake out tomorrow into bull run

>>20572610
-20% when they fuck up earnings.

>>20572632
Your family will sell it so that your brother can marry a farmer's daughter

>>20572647
Trust me, they won’t.

>>20572492
>>20572591
Outclassed by silver.

>>20572248
Damn that sounds good. You liftan or something?
Fuck it imma get some din din.

>>20572492
chad metals

>>20572647
I think that sounds more like Tesla's earnings

$OPK .. choo choo..
bye bye

>>20572539
help

>>20572713
Good luck

>>20572665
I wish I had siblings. I am the crown prince and sad end to my bloodline

>>20572558
okay but seriously.. I’m getting a terrible sense of dejavú here. DXY is low, bonds are high, metals are booming and there is a metric ton of uncertainty looming over us. I’m not a bear but are we going to have another fucking leg down like in March in these next two weeks??

Is war with China priced in?
https://mobile.twitter.com/KPRC2/status/1285776076925534208

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War with China this week.

>>20572698
You think so?
They the ones who got the NBA and NFL contracts?

>>20572610
>Warren Buffett is retarded
>George Soros is out of touch
>Mark Cuban is a schizo
>Jim Simons has lost it
>Carl Icahn is a /biz/let
>Jim Cramer has no clue
>Nobody cares about p/e
>Debt load doesn't matter
desu, i don't know how those guys and their (former) funds are positioned right now.

I'm a factory worker at Fremont. A few hours ago I was lucky enough to catch Elon walking the line and talking to employees. I asked him how we did this quarter and he said "really really great, tomorrow will be a blood bath for the shorts". He also said that precious metals are for faggots and if you don't reply to this your mother will die in her sleep tonight. He then moon walked away while calling me a pedoguy. WTF.

>>20572763
whoops, meant for >>20572613

What's a good day trade move for tomorrow?

>>20572743
>there is a metric ton of uncertainty looming over us
that's a good thing. when there's nothing to worry about is when everyone is in the market, and inevitably leads to a downturn

>>20572498
Im 10k in the hole im not fucking selling

>>20572737
Thanks m8.

My horses are doing alright I think.

Mark I'm holding till ER

I switched bioc to ntec once I was break even. Seems like a solid choice given how the day played out. Maybe itll triple or quadruple like tnxp

>>20572752
>https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1285774409278554112
This is standard embassy procedure for document destruction... stop spreading FUD you dummy. Your PUTS will expire worthless.

>>20572750
>>20572752
Friends, what in the actual fuck is going on anymore.

>>20572763
I always thought those green text implications were sarcastic...

>>20572750
>>20572752
Are you suggesting they were burning the bodies of US government officials and thus it should be taken as an act of war?

Was probably just dogs.

>>20572502
crash any minute!!!!
sell sell sell!

>>20572790
okay, what about everything else following the same dance just before everything took a shit in March?

>>20572777
yeah you better WHOOPS bitch.. don't ever fuckin reply to me again

>>20572810
No, they're burning all their documents because two chinese nationals were just charged with espionage.

>>20572810
They're my personal highlights of statements made by /smg/ over the last few months. I post them sarcastically. They were originally posted seriously, kek.

>>20572840
I'll replay skyrim again if this is a texture/mod pack

i just made my first $3 from the stonk market
see you later wagies i'm omw to lamboland

(what else should i YOLO my savings in?)

>>20572541
>commodity futures
It's like the rich people version of doomsday preppers.

I think with the amount of money that I have in Tesla shares, I will pop my last prized quaalude tomorrow afternoon and await Tesla's earnings

>>20572844
Yeah, I've been to that embassy before. it's like a third world process, you have to pay a courier a kickback or your application gets rejected. It's also got some heavy security, you know when you have passed the gate. I got questioned by US policed on my home too, they asked me all kinds of questions. Fucking spook games man, i just want some dong po rou.

I'm drinking cabernet sauvignon mixed with surge soda

what's a good multiplayer vidya that isn't overwatch, dota, call of duty or rocket league.. I guess I'm looking for an mmo? idk

if I can find a game I really love, I'll quit my job and play the video game 80 hours a week instead

>>20572752
Job creator. Bullish.

>It’s 2045, the second housing bubble finally bursts, crashing the stock market as homelessness reaches critical levels.
>Among those evicted, are your average /smg/ bobos
>For the last 30 years they been holding onto their hopes of this crash, every month screaming that it’s the end, throwing all of their paychecks into TQQQ, and when that was gone, they used margin because “line can’t keep going”
>But today, they are finally right. The day they’ve been waiting for is finally here. They are too poor to afford a single put, but they’ll die hungry knowing that in the end, they were right. Stocks don’t always go up.
>TSLA 20000p expired worthless last Friday.

>>20572920
nak = domestic production of precious metals, if it's approved the chances are likely we are in this for the long haul

WHAT

>>20572942
nice post

>>20572974
WHY YES, HOW COULD YOU TELL

>>20572974
big if true

>>20572974
military here. i havent heard about any of this. definitely fud.

>>20573066
>>20573066
canada's already a chinese territory
they own so much real estate here and we have like the highest chinese pop outside of china dont we

>>20572974
So all in DFEN, or one of the other ones?

>>20572914
>cabernet sauvignon mixed with surge soda
terrible taste, anon. surge and mixed drinks in general are for fags, women and estrogen riddled redditors. you should be drinking vodka like a real man
as for the game, i recommend https://store.steampowered.com/app/632350/Cyberdimension_Neptunia_4_Goddesses_Online/
Its a fake MMORPG that substitutes the old sweaty men with cute girls that'll talk and play games with you. it would be very theraputic for someone with such shit taste in video games
or you could simply go back, you do sick out like a sore thumb in the first place. i'm sure they'd love to entertain you with praise for "being so le unique with my surge soda mixed drink and overwatch"
fuck off

>>20573102
I thought that was Australia, which would make more sense since they are closer to the chinkus

>>20572844
Is this about the UMC stuff from last year?

>>20572116
Nth for NNOMF. Pick up a small position tomorrow when the market dips, hold for 1 month. This could be the beginning of another (smaller) wkhs ride

>>20573037
do i stock up on RTX?

>>20573129
No, vaccine espionage.

>>20573125
guess its thailand actually

Thailand 9,349,900[5]
Malaysia 6,642,000[6]
United States 5,025,817[7]
Indonesia 2,832,510[8]
Singapore 2,571,000[9]
Canada 1,769,195[10]
Myanmar 1,637,540[11][12]
Philippines 1,350,000[13]
Australia 1,213,903[14]

>>20573178
>United States 5,025,817[7]
We have already lost

>>20573122
I drink whiskey neat but my gay coworker turned me on to red wine mixed with sprite and it's kinda nice for chilling w/ vidya

are you saying I have shit taste in vidya because I don't want to play those games? interesting

>>20573142
It was up 26% today and there's news. Idk dude

Its volume went 9x+ the normal avg and a hedge that jumped on wkhs early is already spewing to yahoo. This will have ez hype

>>20573178
Those are Thai Chinese, basically dissident gangsters that left after WW2, not quite the same. If you had Chinese moving in pre 90s (clinton) they were more than likely dissidents that hate the CCP and would gladly fight against them in a war. Actually rumor is there is a Taiwan Singapore Thailand drug cartel alliance, but you didn't hear that from me.

>>20573202
>are you saying I have shit taste in vidya because I don't want to play those games? interesting
no, I thought you implied that you enjoyed playing those. kudos if you don't.

>>20572838
The difference now is everyone is expecting volatility. Markets crash when the unexpected happens. There very well might be a correction, but it would take some serious chaos to see march lows again, people are numb to it at this point. I'd keep some cash of the sidelines approaching the election though.

>>20572530
I was an edgy kid :/
It was over a decade ago

>>20573202
I knew a girl who drank white wine and Pepsi and refused to have any other drink.
What I'm getting at is basically short PEP.

does zom have idexx potential?

Alright. I accept that selling LMT the week before earnings was dumb. Do buy back in at a higher level? Think they can beat inflation/deflation/QQQ?

>>20573122
>tagging on my Irish coffee
Slag off not all mixed drinks are fucking fuzzy navels and wine coolers.

That reminds me

LAFROIGE CREW WW@???

>>20572914
RuneScape

>>20573205
there was news today a hedge fund went into it. go on yahoo finance and look at WKHS

>>20572156
Very good first post

>>20573205
>>20573235
Guess i forgot to link. Whatever oops

How do you guys feel about physical gold ETFs? Thinking about going 50/50 PHYS/ZJG in my boomer account and playing 2x ETFs and pennystocks in my fun account

>>20573256
Try to emigrate. Seriously.

Some news articles coming out telling to buy ONTX. Going to sell half my holdings tomorrow and see where it goes from there.

>>20572914
>>20573122
Can confirm. Cyberdimension: 4 Goddesses Online is based JRPG.

I was so bummed out when I finally finished the game, then I picked up Omega Quintet. It's a lot like 4GO.

It's really funny, cozy and badass game play/plot.

>>20573178
Are these those countries power levels?

>>20573309
Yeah I'm going too
Going to get married in England
Maybe thatv will help
Thank you fren

>>20573242
>Taiwan Singapore Thailand
>pretty much life/death sentence if you drug deal in those countries
Massive balls on those fellas

>>20573122
when are they going to make an actual real new nep game.. jesus that 2D side scrolling shit was a disaster and now aren't they trying to make some other BS game? fucking hell just kill me.. when's neps in like Unreal 4 or some shit.. FUCK

>>20573352
Those countries are like even less tightly controlled south america. Bribes take care of everything the penalty is a form of control to dissuade new large scale dealers from breaking out. Drug dens dont continue to exist for no reason

Might want to bag funeral company stocks. SCI is the largest of these. All those dead bodies and all. Yeah kinda morbid but hey profit is profit.

NASDAQ futures trying to trick me again into getting excited for tomorrow.

This IV crush is going to be one for the history books, so if you can land a condor perfectly you win the tendie lottery.

TSLA crabbed 1500 for a week then shot to ATH 1650, exactly 10% increase, followed by a 5% decrease to current levels.

If the current run-up priced in a 90% chance of beating earnings, a 10% gain from here takes it to 1725.

I forsee many pink wojacks wondering why their 1700 call is ITM but they still lost money.

>>20573590
go on...

>>20573385
Not a VVVtunia fan?

How much longer should I hold my Broadway Financial?

Tomorrow is the big day. Dont get caught holding the bag

>>20573590
TSLA's ATH is $1,794.99, not $1650. This isn't a typical earnings for them, do not expect a mere 10% move.

>>20573398
Singapore is actually very hardcore and well policed, but they have consription. The thing is they do the dirty work in other countries. Thailand is the trafficking point and Taiwan and Signapore just handle the financial mess. Good people though, you just dont' want to be on their bad side.

Any TSLA bros holding? I'm starting to feel nervous. I bought in at 1525, likely see it rise to 1650 again. If it beats earnings, its an easy 1750. If they lose, its going to dump down to 1400 levels

>>20573699
I thought I remembered a 1700+ ATH somewhere but couldn't find it on the graph.

>>20573726
I sold mine.

It's been at an ATH for months now for no reason other than a cult following. Why risk getting a rug pull? If it's a good stock I can buy after earnings and just hold again

>>20573693
I’m going to sell some of my holdings. ONTX was going up 20% post market and now it’s basically at close price. And there’s starting to be the generic news articles that don’t tell you anything important. And they’re saying to buy.

>>20573726
just do us all a favor and don't sell if it dips ok? hold until it goes back up, tsla gets gov subsidies

China is threatening retaliation against the U.S over the U.S slapping sanctions on some china companies over human rights issues. Plus the trump message today "virus getting worse" means I hope epic sale event tomorrow. Cheapie hunting back with a vengeance. Go for the good shit, 50% off or more. Make it worth the money forked over in it.

i want to buy puts on something. i feel like between riots & floods something has to slow down this rally.
TLSA? nasdaq? it feels like suicide to blindly call the top

>>20573743
A lot of the big stock sites like MarketWatch exclude high and low historic prices and they won't appear on the basic chart. I suggest only using TradingView.
>>20573726
Don't be a pussy. If you still insist on being a pussy, set a 1525 stop loss just before earnings.

>tfw can’t even afford options on TSLA

How long til premarket opens

>>20573673
>arpg
no thank youuuu.. I just want a normal turn based RPG again where you can move within circle

>>20573854
3 and a half hours, 1am pst 4am est

>>20573848
Take the spread pill.

>>20573811
finally i can sell sqqq

>>20572184
yessir, it's going to $50+ EOY

>>20573854
What is a stock?

>>20573927
A miserable little pile of securities!

what time do futures open?

Gonna dump my NIO and AZN tomorrow in the early pump and grab some biotech pennies. There's no way this could go wrong right?

>>20573927
>>20573946
kek

>>20572752
this is 1/2 a mile from my house

>>20573811
Futures minty forest beautiful green. You may have my shares at all time highs and no cheaper.

>>20574031
No shame in selling at a local max and buying the dip with profits

>>20574003
Welcome to biz.PNG

>>20572369
You are correct anon. It's also the reason why precious metals have been going nuts. Typically they don't go hand in hand with the market like this.
We are in an everything-bubble and with insane future inflation and non stop stimulus and printing, the market will continue to go up. Once the fed loses its power, the madness will end but who knows when that will be.
Not to be a doomsey but the fed will continue to pull out the last of its tools until infinite printing will no longer hold. We are seeing the end of the current fiat dollar but I imagine this can still last for years

>>20574184
Also, this is why I suspect the housing market won't crash like everyone is predicting. We will see pockets of dips but overall, people will be desperate to throw their fiat into assets which will keep the housing market inflated for a bit longer

>>20572116
I wanna long oil how many years will I be bag holding

>>20574217
>I suspect the housing market won't crash like everyone is predicting
I disagree because a house relative to median wage is far too expensive in most geographic areas. The population pyramid is becoming a tube. soon someone will be paying those taxes to uncle sam, and the banks sure as hell don't want that.

>>20572116
GERN is the new KTOV

>>20573949
Noon Hawaii standard time

I wish NYSE had a lunch break like the asian markets do, that would be super cozy to relax and get some snacks and stuff.

>>20572369

I predicted that this was going to happen in May.

>>20574297
Yeah... but you also could've predicted that we should be buying TQQQ, SOXL, or FNGU if we wanted to make serious gains
(to later buy MORE rocks with if we so chose)

>>20574332

I made mining stock predictions on 22/06/20 which will have doubled when the markets open today, and which have already outperformed Tesla (mean increase 65%). So I'd say that's pretty good going.

>>20574297
Do you play it half ass right though? That kinda doomy outlook I bet you were short or all cash for a lengthy period of the rebound off March lows. Did you long shiny metals at any point along the way?

>>20574357
Yes good going indeed, I hope you were able to overweight the winners, they should more than offset the losers, and who knows the losers might make it eventually

I need a bloody red opening bell

Nothing worth picking up atm

>>20574361

See >>20574357. I've been guiding people here for three months and haven't put a foot wrong. Anybody who listened to me is already very wealthy.

https://i.warosu.org/biz/thread/19669109

>>20574395
Not happening. NASDAQ makes or beats earnings, green open, crab day

>>20572367
1) Growth stocks and Contracts with timing the market (Risky and most active, but most fun. You'll probably lose. Everyone usually starts here.)
2) HLOD strategy (in which you invest in companies and never sell)
3) Dividends
4) Index and mutual funds

All are valid strategies. So long as you stick to your strategy, you'll make it.
The biggest issue is that people try to time the market at the best times.
If you are one of the very few people who can time the market and produce gains, then go for 1. Odds are though, you'll just buy yourself an expensive education.
It's good to try a strategy at least once.

>>20574297
You're missing an important point. Yields aren't rising. Australia officially turned on YCC, but hasn't needed to buy any bonds since March. The market is keeping rates low because of a lack of liquidity, so banks buy the most liquid instruments (bonds, gold, stocks). That alone explains the bull in stocks and gold, and why rates stay low even without intervention.

Thoughts?

>>20572369
If there is run away inflation, then what do you think is going to happen to stocks?
They'll probably just get more expensive.

>>20574459
And this buying is deflationary for the wider economy, because that means banks are buying bonds and liquid assets instead of giving out loans.

>>20572116
t

Going all in on TTI in the morning because I’m a chad

>>20574404
Congrats then.
>Anybody who listened to me is already very wealthy.
Yeah this ego of your's has to go though. I do not care for that kind of faggotry.

>>20574459

Whether yields stay low of their own accord, or a formal cap is inevitably put on them in order to prop up stocks and enormous balance-sheets, PMs will continue to rise. The point is that negative real yields are inevitable at this point, and that means an environment in which PMs must rise.

>>20572116
Went all in on tech yesterday only to have a fucking rotation happen

>>20574506
This is correct, both high inflation and high deflation have historically been good for gold. Gold does well when central banks do poorly.

NFLX is going to moon tomorrow

>>20574254
I hope it doesn't. I bought a house last year.

>>20574480
To much to risk.

>>20574544
i think you've got time. I wouldn't be too worried. It's a longer term trend and i think most of us that are yet to join the landowning class or yet to break the age of 40 need to distance ourselves from the idea that land can be an asset.

>>20572116
Hey guys.
I'm that guy that buys contracts to exercise them.
Sometimes, I exercise them as soon as I can.
How much do you hate me?

>>20574567
do you exercise physical delivery of lean hogs

why the fuck can't piece of shit nasdaq just stay above 11k for one FUCKING day

Okay lads how stupid would be be to buy 5 shares TSLA at market open tomorrow?

>>20574567
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>>20574604
If they miss earnings you're fucked

>>20574582
Just stock call contracts.
Seems to be a lot of naked sellers on the market.

>>20574616
Define 'fucked'

>>20574444
you wont make it with dividends or mutual funds lmao
just by qqq, spy or tqqq as a fund
stop spreading horse shit advice thx

>>20574254
sure it could dip, but as long as foreign entities are allowed to buy up homes and land in the US, I expect money will flow out of shitholes all over the world into US real estate.

If we're worried about USD inflation, imagine wjat the aristocrats, royalty, government officials, kleptocrats, etc. who store their wealth in Yuan or Rubles or Rupees, or Saudi Riyall etc. are thinking.

>>20574567
>buying ITM contracts
I've never had this happen to me. I don't believe it really often happens. I suspect that options might trade similar to shares in that we're all just trading with HFT bots, and they do some calculations to determine arbitrage regarding what to buy, sell, and execute.

That can't be right though...

>>20574604
50/50 moon or kys

>>20574616
>inb4 they miss earnings and still go up

>>20574604
Might as well go to the casino and go all in on black.

>>20574607
>The schizo broke again

>>20574628
you're down like -10% but +40% a month or so later

>>20574631
>This guy again
Didn't you get BTFO after a bunch of dividend anon's tore you a new asshole?

>>20574633
I just imagine some WSB guy naked selling calls and then squirming after I exercise.

>>20574659
every time anyone spreads their false dividends bullshit i'll be there to call them out on their delusion and prevent anyone else from falling into the trap.
you're never going to make it

>>20574656
And if they beat? What's the upside?

>>20574684
If you can't see how they are making it and limiting yourself, then you're not going to make it.
I'm just going to ask you the same thing that they did.
Where's the PORTFOLIO Lebowski?

>>20574690
s&p inclusion

>>20574711
my portfolio is microsoft which beats any dividend shitstack you could create
yes even msft beats them
stay poor and delusional fucktard, filtered

>>20574675
What would be the purpose though? Wouldn't you be paying a premium to buy/sell the shares?

>>20574684
And I'll be there to say that you're being unecessarily dogmatic, and that MA and NVDA are terrific companies that pay dividends and your logic is flawed, as it assumes the dividend is the highest priority of anyone who likes receiving/compounding their dividends.

They're frens. Get over it.

>>20574684
Hey, silver broke 22 usd. Just a heads up. Miners are still fucking undervalued

>>20574297
So what were your realized gains Nostradamus anon?

>>20574734
>Microsoft
>a Dividend aristocrat
Wow, you sure showed me.

>>20572894
Based

>>20574734
MSFT is a dividend stock.

Anyone here holding NAK? Insider leaked that the strike price will be $24

GNUS stocktwits page is now my homepage. It is an infinite cosmos of bagholder cope and rage with its dedicated bear shitpost squads along with being the target of every single PnD pajeet account.
Truly spectacular.

>>20574734
>MSFT
>not a dividend stock

>>20574752
I should say, NEARLY, a dividend aristocrat.
It's a few years shy.

>>20572177
Present

>>20574761
Yeah. A 0.93dividend stock

>>20574745
Yeah. But that money doesn't matter to me so much as I'm just accumulating for the long-term.
It just floats my boat to have this fantasy.

>>20574659
>>This guy again
Neck yourself, retard. Everyone here should hate dividend faggots. The average total return of dividend stocks do not beat the S&P 500, let alone QQQ.
>>20574761
MSFT is a tech stock. Dividend stocks are stocks specifically bought because of their dividends, not any stock that has a dividend.

>>20574771
>>20574761
>>20574752
we're talking about delusional dividend chasers idiots

>>20574771
>>20574761
>>20574752
>0.96%
Microsoft dividends don't even beat inflation. People buying it are buying for growth, not fixed income.

>>20574761
You can sell June 2021 covered calls at 230 (~15% increase of current price) for $26/share. That is the equivalent of 12 years of dividends from holding the shares.

>>20574821
>>20574827
>NO! YOU CAN'T POINT OUT THE DIVIDEND!

>>20574842
Why not both?

>>20574789
>>20574827
Growth stocks can be dividend stocks. MSFT, NEE, HD and the like are both dividend stocks and growth stocks.
Don't be so quick to label something with a good, appreciating dividend as a stagnant value pit.

>>20574842
yes, and in addition to that, dividends on schedule, free of tax if you keep your divvy stocks in your Roth

>>20574821
ooooooh, you're talking only about the delusional posters... riiiiiight

dividens are frens, you know in your heart that it's true.

>>20574861

>>20574886
wow, is this a REAL homosexual brainlet in the thread tonight?

>>20572116
The Tesla casino

>>20574881
You can't talk sense to this guy.
He's been raging all day about the mere thought of dividends.

>>20574801
>Everyone here should hate dividend faggots
Why?
Because they invest differently from you?

>>20574880
You do it three times you have 3 decades worth of dividends. They are just irrelevant here. You can take any growth stock, "lock in" gains with covered calls, and get substantially better cumulative returns than pure dividends.
Netflix calls in June 2021 at 550 (10%+ of current price) are ~100/share. That is a "20% dividend" locked up behind a "worst case" 10% capital appreciation gain if you are assigned.

>>20574935
So, If I invest in a dividend aristocrat AND sell covered calls, I can get guaranteed income AND a second gain in the form of selling covered calls.

Sounds good to me.

Guys are we going to the moon?

>>20572177
laughing at the idiots buying my puts

>>20574905
Because dividends are a meme used to lock in investors

>>20574982
i wanna crash on earth so badly

>>20574881
You're completely delusional if you think anyone besides yourself considers a 0.96% dividend to be a true dividend stock and that anyone would buy it specifically for that reason.
>>20574921
No, I said faggots but there's really only the one, the rest wouldn't be wasting their time here or they only partly own dividend stocks. Dividendfaggot doesn't care that he doesn't beat the market and neither will his suggestions, he doesn't care if he tricks some impressionable retard with a $800 account into buying a shitty dividend stock, he only cares about getting praised because of his shilling.

I don't care if you buy dividend stocks, just admit your performance will suck and they're mostly for retirees that need stable income.

>>20574995
>Used to lock in investors
Why would they want to do that?
Wouldn't liquidity in the market benefit them more?

FUTURES ARE BLOOD FLAT

>>20574921
Honestly there's no point in having dividends when you could just have buybacks.

>>20574905
/smg/ as a whole has been shitting on dividends since day one. Think about this rationally, if you could beat the market while getting a high dividend, there would be no reason for the average investor to be in anything else. You pay a premium for the income by lowered performance. Stupid people don't understand this and they think that a $100 dividend payment is better than $200 increase in stock value even if they're reinvesting the dividend.

>>20574974
In the case I outlined here the premiums are twice that of MSFT's which is comparable in the same sector as NFLX.
The higher the dividend yield the worse this premium tends to be. The covered call is already vastly superior "income" to the dividend. And traditional and ROTH IRAs allow you to treat this income identically to dividends. I picked a "year out" to give the same tax benefits.
150K of NFLX stock with covered calls will "yield" 30K/year with a worst case "bonus" of 15K year from being assigned. Any dividend strategy requires several times the amount of invested capital.

>>20575015
The largest dividend-oriented fund on the planet, which people supposedly buy for the dividend and future dividends, has MSFT as its top holding.

>>20575015
What about the chart of the S&P 500 vs S&P 500 Dividend Aristocrats?
You still didn't address that.
I don't know how you can dismiss an entirely viable investment strategy.
It's fairly obvious that you can mix and match strategies, but it seems like you just can't accept even one single person buying a stock for dividends.

>>20575017
Depends on the sector, O is probably the best dividend stock, pays .21 cents a share monthly

>>20575070
I mean, you said it was a meme, but I'm saying that it is a viable investment strategy.
It's one that works.

>>20575060
But, dividends are guarded from flux and there is a very likely possibility that companies will increase that year on year.

>150K of NFLX stock with covered calls will "yield" 30K/year with a worst case "bonus" of 15K year from being assigned. Any dividend strategy requires several times the amount of invested capital.
I think that this is the best argument against dividends that I've heard.
It still doesn't discount it as a viable investment strategy.

>>20575065
VIG isn't a dividend chasing ETF, and you don't own it for the dividend. You own it because, in the past, companies that consistently raise their dividends every year were found to outperform and it was generally indicative of a stronger balance sheet.

>>20575059
>/smg/ as a whole has been shitting on dividends since day one.
You must be new here. I've been here since /biz/ was created.
There have always been a healthy bunch of dividend investors on the board. They tend to not talk much

>Realized gains over theoretical gains
I think that some people are against market timing.
Dividends help people stick to a strategy that works without trying to time, and that's worth something.

Cant wait to watch my DFFN positions moon on premarket again.

>>20575056
How so?
Can you explain that?

Fiat currency is going to die

The reason why most new stocks avoid dividends is for tax purposes. Stock price increases are unrealized gains, so rather than getting income from them, shareholders will borrow against their shares as collateral to avoid having to pay taxes on a stock sale.

You can technically pull a line of credit against a stock at a super low interest rate (the richer/wealthier you are, the lower your rate). So the rich just borrow and spend against their shares. When it comes time to paying the debts back, they roll over the debt by creating yet another line of credit against their existing shares. Since by then, the share price has increased, they get to pay off their initial debts with even cheaper credit.

The trick is to never sell, and to trick others into buying your overpriced shares until you hit the inevitable brick wall that is credit contraction. That is the current environment we're in.

>>20575065
What is your point? You can find holdings that don't fit the purpose in any ETF. Dividend ETFs have to include low dividend growth stocks or else they would suffer even worse performance. MSFT still isn't a dividend stock outside a autistic technical definition of it.
>>20575066
>What about the chart of the S&P 500 vs S&P 500 Dividend Aristocrats?
What about it? You're cherry picking a single index that has a single criteria, it needs to have increasing dividend payouts for 25 consecutive years or more. It only outperformed it by 0.50% over the last ten years but it's still apples and oranges, Div Aristocrats only has less than 100 stocks on it. You should be comparing it to the S&P 100 which has better performance than it.
>I don't know how you can dismiss an entirely viable investment strategy.
It's objectively a poor strategy for everyone besides someone that has no income but has hundreds of thousands worth of capital. It's laughable that people like you suggest some 18 year old with a few hundred dollars to buy them.

>>20575198
Buybacks reduce the number of shares so the value of the shares increases. If you were going to give 100 monopoly dollars in dividends but you use them on buybacks the value of the remaining shares increases by 100 monopoly dollars.
The difference however is that if you want income you can then sell your as many shares as the amount of income you want and it would work as a dividend.
Otherwise you don't sell and it's just as if you reinvested it automatically and instantly, without having to pay taxes in between.

>>20575214
I wonder if RH ever fixed the borrowing with share collaterized margin bugs that allowed for "infinite" margin. If they haven't, its simply because RH users don't realize how dumb it is on RH's part that it is/was possible.

>>20575185
I've been here since it was Robinhood General Thread, dividends were always considered a poor strategy by most people, regardless of if there were some investors who used them. If you're a dividend investor, there's just no point in you coming here because there's barely any discussion of it and it's not worth the shit you would have to wade through.
>Realized gains over theoretical gains
All dividends are unrealized if they're reinvested which is why it defeats the purpose of doing them. I have no issue with people who don't or can't time the market, but they would be better off in index ETFs instead of whatever dividend fund or div portfolio they created.

>>20575151
You're drawing arbitrary lines. If you choose to invest in a fund comprised entirely of stocks chosen based on dividend history - a collection of dividend stocks, what does your personal motivation to do so matter?
At the end of the day, you are an investor in dividend stocks.

>>20575217
I'm open to hear your definition of a dividend stock. Obviously financial institutions like Vanguard have the incorrect one, so it would be helpful to correct them.

So apparently Sprott Physical Gold Trust literally just has a giant vault of bullion at the Royal Canadian Mint, and you can exchange shares directly for bullion. The only catch is you need enough shares to take delivery of a Good Delivery Standard bar which is a fuckton of gold.

The advantage of dividend paying stocks that it keeps the stock prices low. Instead your stock, which should ideally act more like a bond, retains it's price over a long period, and the income you get can be used to pay your bills.

Another advantage to dividend paying stocks is that you get to keep your dividend income in the case that your stock crashes. Say you own a dividend paying stock for 3 years before it crashed. Well at least you got 3 years worth of income from it. If this happened to a growth stock, you would be left with nothing.

>>20575217
>What about...
Because one of the metrics that you've used in the past was, "Dividend stocks don't even beat the S&P", but that's not true.
You're moving the goalposts again.

What's the news on NAK?

where is this price target of $24 coming from?

>>20575263
>All dividends are unrealized if they're reinvested
That is objectively not true though....

You're just calling dividend investing a "poor strategy" because it seems that you lack general knowledge about what it is.

I like the idea of having dividend stocks in the utilities and consumables I use. For instance, if my power company is Duke energy, I will own enough DUK where the dividend is able to cover for my power costs. I plan to do this with my water, power, gas and internet bill.

Same goes for the gasoline I buy, the shampoo I use or the ketchup I buy from the grocery store. My goal is to ultimately budget my purchases with dividend stocks so it's as if I am buying things from myself ultimately.

>>20575309
Cool, you can fuck off now, because if all you can comprehend is putting all your money in a Vanguard ETF, there's nothing to discuss. The "hurr durr average investors don't beat the market" tripe inherently makes you a below average investor.

TSM 70 EOD

>>20575273
They aren't the only one. Perth Mint's AAAU allows for the same thing and I believe the lowest unit for compensation is 100 shares which is something like half a pound of gold. Of course the premium, freight, and insurance is much worse at smaller quantities but it actually gets at the fundamental problem many gold hoarders have with gold backed ETFs.

>>20575268
>I'm open to hear your definition of a dividend stock.
I already stated what it was, dividend stocks are stocks bought specifically for their dividend, not any stock that has a dividend which would make almost everyone here a dividend investor and is plainly retarded.
>>20575285
>"Dividend stocks don't even beat the S&P"
They don't, not as a group. I said that the average dividend stock will not beat the S&P 500 and that is true. The S&P 500 Dividend Aristocrats isn't comprised of all the dividend stocks, it's around 50 of the top performing stocks. Even that gets beaten by the S&P 100 and straight wrecked by something like QQQ.

>>20575369
I don't see the problem. Do they think fucking around with physical coins is any easier or more liquid?

>>20574766
No I too scared to jump in its up 100%, why would it 10x from here??

>>20575390
It's funny how you have to use mental gymnastics and cherry picking to try to make your point.
I guess some people just can't accept other ideas, and definitely can't accept being wrong.

>>20572763
money printer go brrrrrr

>https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2020-07-17/the-fed-is-setting-the-stage-for-a-major-policy-change

>>20575390
Then if I bought MSFT specifically for its dividend, like many like Vanguard do, MSFT would be a dividend stock.

>>20575316
It's de facto unrealized gains. If you buy a stock, get a dividend and put it back into that stock, you still should consider it unrealized.
> it seems that you lack general knowledge about what it is
You're just creating fallacy arguments rather than owning up to the fact that you're wrong and that dividends are a poor strategy for most people here.

>>20575314
Throw a dart at the internet and I'm sure it'll land on some unverified rumor

I'm thinking about getting in NAK, but I want to get in after the morning dip

>>20575259
these are the RH cheat codes shut up

>>20572894
You know they haven't been manufactured in decades and unless you're in South Africa the counterfeits are just benzos, right?

>>20575448
>It's de facto unrealized gains. If you buy a stock, get a dividend and put it back into that stock, you still should consider it unrealized.
Wow. Simply stunning.
I mean, you keep shifting the definitions, moving goalposts, to justify yourself, but you just look bad.
It's time to stop.

>>20575425
Hey retard, you're the one who is cherry picking by picking the top performing dividend index and comparing it to something with 450 more stocks on it. Dividend stocks, as a group, do not beat the S&P 500 index. Kill yourself.
>>20575445
You didn't buy MSFT specifically for the 0.9% dividend and neither did Vanguard, they bought it because it's a growth stock that happens to have a dividend so they can increase their performance while it still technically fits the purpose of the fund.

>>20575408
The idea goes that ETF expense ratios are actually worse than buying the gold and than renting secure storage yourself (Brinck's global for example) with the added negative of not having the true liquidity of the gold itself in hand.
It also prevents "overassignment" of paper holdings which has famously plagued "paper silver" markets. Think bank run issues but with the metal instead of bank balance sheets.

>>20575487
Literally nothing I said was inconstant and you're clearly upset I refuted what you posted so you will no longer address the argument or do anything besides post fallacies. Once again, kill yourself.

>>20575497
>Whether it's a dividend stock or not depends on your intention and motivations
Are you even reading this back to yourself?

>Kill yourself
Hey, there's no need to be upset. We're all wrong from time to time.

If holding SOXL longterm is wrong then I DON'T WANNA BE RIGHT

>>20575517
According to Sprott's prospectus their holdings are 100% physical, unassigned and unlevered, and secured by the RCM. Can't get much more secure without shoving bars of gold up my ass for safekeeping.

Just reas about what Trump said.
Should I get out now?

If the three gorges dam does collapse, what does this do to stocks?

>>20575522
I addressed your arguments, then you shift the definitions.
Face it, no matter what I show you, you're going to try to flip around it.

Time to post that portfolio and shut me up once and for all.
SHOW ME THE GAINS

>>20574604
still a better investment than buying 2k shares of LCI at 6.64$ and losing $1700 a few weeks ago. Like I did seriously fuck you shills, this company sank 10% on good news

>>20575546
Yes, if you buy a stock specifically for a dividend, you should consider it a dividend stock.
>Hey, there's no need to be upset. We're all wrong from time to time.
It's just pathetic that you're being catty only because you lost the argument so now you're projecting it onto me and refusing to address anything else. Someone that pathetic shouldn't exist.
>>20575574
What definitions did I shift? Dividend stocks =/= an index of 50 dividend stocks. You may as well just pick 5 dividend stocks and claim that dividend stocks beat every index. There's no broad index for dividends because it would be pure trash and no one wants to be associated with it.
>Time to post that portfolio and shut me up once and for all.
Sure, if you post your own. What percentage do have I have to beat you by in order for you to kill yourself on live stream?

>>20575554
I wasn't comparing the two. Just that these gold ETFs and trusts that allow for actual gold exchange are generally considered "better" than those that don't. As long as, in principle, you (or any other shareholder) can get directly and proportionally reimbursed for your shares, it can't be overleveraged.

>>20575570
Probably gets them a bit wet desu

>>20575555
yes

Alright lads I have 6.5K. If I put it all on TSLA tomorrow, what's maximum upside and downside? No memes, just hit me with some numbers

The futures are so flat they make me want to buy straddles. There's got to be huge pent up market movers waiting for MSFT/TSLA earnings about to explode in either direction.

>>20575665
I'm literally shaking right now

>>20575555
What part? About things getting worse before they get better?

Like 2 months ago he said that there would be wide spread deaths due to Coronita-chan. I remember I put a 2% trailing stop on everything I had since I expected a crash. It was some of the most profitable weeks after the announcement

>>20575570
Pretty sure any major market disruption right now would trigger GFC3, helicopter money, yield curve control and QE Infinity and Beyond. So a short dip, which you should buy, and then EL ULTIMO ENCIERRO, as soon as it bottoms go all in with leverage on anything.

After market earnings generally come out ~15 minutes after market close right? I can probably buy and sell 0 day SPY straddles right after market close and make money if Microsoft goes hard in either direction (since ameritrade lets you trade after market for 15 minutes).

>>20575632
Calm down cupcake, it's going to be ok.
>You lost the argument
That's funny. You keep telling yourself that.

>What definitions did I shift?
First: >What is a dividend stock
Then: >Dividend stocks can't beat the S&P
Then: >NO! I don't accept that group of dividend stocks! You can only accept this!

You just keep getting BTFO and trying to work your way around it.
I'm not the one claiming something is bad. I'm not claiming that you CAN'T beat the market with your strategy.
You're the only one with the claim here.

BTFO me for good. Show me those realized gains.
Show me how you beat the market and how bad investing in dividend stocks are.

Reminder that dividend chasing is for mentally ill braindamaged cucks.
The cuckfolio is a small collection of the most shilled dividend stocks here on smg.

>>20572116
Oh god remember every time trump says the stock market is doing good sell
He is signaling his friends to pull out and buy the dip

>>20575734
I said originally said:
"The average total return of dividend stocks do not beat the S&P 500, let alone QQQ."
You were the one who cherry picked Dividend Aristocrats index instead of something that at least has a comparable number of stocks. I've been completely consistent with my definition of what is a dividend stock as well.

I already BTFOed you but you're going to keep moving the goal posts to the point we are not even talking about dividends yet you won't even post your own portfolio. I'm up 200% YTD, some of which is realized. My two year return is something like 12x. Now why don't you post something that proves you have even made money?

>>20575868
They can't even beat SPY.
Imagine that, putting in more risk for shittier returns than fucking S&P500.
Dividend cucks are truly brain damaged

NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW

>>20575949

>>20575949
>>20575949
>>20575949>>20575949

>>20575894
Show me your portfolio comp.
I call bullshit.
If you're going to go this far, then just post the whole thing.

>>20576034
I'll post my full portfolio the moment you post your own, faggot. I'm LMAOing right now, you've been blown out so hard that you had no other card to play besides call bullshit. I can only imagine how pathetic your return is, you really ought to just kill yourself.

>>20575936
>>20575868

>>20576065
hahaha! If that helps you sleep at night princess, then you can think what you want.

>>20576081
Why won't you post your portfolio? You were the one that called me out, at least have the guts to stand behind what you've said and your "strategy".

It's almost like you're embarrassed so you're making up excuses. You're actually really pathetic, what a detestable little faggot you are. No wonder you're seething about people insulting dividend investing.

>>20575713
w-what's that thing in her tiddies?

>>20576132
Why won't you just post the whole thing?
I mean, I can HTML edit too.
I call bullshit because it took you so long to finally do it and you are intentionally obscuring.
Just do the whole thing and BTFO me for good, right?

>>20576168
I could post the whole thing but I don't want to give up my strategy and my stocks that have been clearly outperforming you unless there is a good reason, but once again, the moment you post your own portfolio I'll do the same and you'll even be able to profit from my work.
>I call bullshit because it took you so long to finally do it and you are intentionally obscuring.
You're calling bullshit because you're retarded and coping. You'll probably call bullshit if I post the whole thing. Here is one of my accounts, notice that it's all green. Get rekt.

>>20576227
>I don't want to give up my strategy.
The whole point is to disprove a strategy.
So just do it, what are you afraid of?

>COPE
That's the universal first sign that you've got nothing.

>>20575894
>>20576227
These two images don't match up, by the way.

>>20576249
No, it's the universal sign that you're coping. We both know that there are no edits. Since spring of last year I've taken my account from 10k to nearly 130k. I literally have one of the highest performance out of anyone here.
>The whole point is to disprove a strategy.
I've already disproved that dividends are a bad strategy and the fact that you refuse to post your portfolio proves that your strategy is trash as well.
>>20576279
Yes they do. I'm down slightly in my other main account. I also have an unrelated account with even more money in it.

>>20575936
It's less risky though and both the dividend appreciation and the dividend aristocrats have tracked the SP500 during the last years quite well (although they have lagged since the lockdown crash) and they have outperformed in the past like
>>20576069 points out so he has a point.

>>20576348
It's not less risky, the S&P 500 has 450 more stocks than it with much better diversity. A lot of the dividend stocks are failing like XOM and the fewer growth stocks increases the risk of poor future performance. It takes 25 years of increasing dividends to make that index, which is why there are very few tech stocks on it.

>Complete silence from the dividend faggot after getting rekt

He will never recover from this, he probably has a noose around his neck as we speak.

>>20576431
You usually measure risk with volatility and by that measure is less risky.

>>20576516
You don't measure risk with a single metric but a quick backtest compared to SPY shows that Dividend Aristocrat NOBL actually had larger draw downs and higher volatility.

>>20576516
>>20576555
Here is the proof. SPY has a better Sharpe Ratio. You should still never measure portfolio risk this way.