/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20458648
also, rent increased while wages dont keep up. Nice. Fucking joke of a country

>>20458781
Thats another thing at MINIMUM. If a person's wages do not increase, it should be 100% illegal for landlords to raise the rent of the tenant. Honestly, fuck the whole concept of rent increase. They should have a static price for all eternity. Fuck the very idea of landlords

>>20458809
basically YOU should be able to be your own landlord. Everyone is entitled to a small piece of land. What about the home? THATS where capitalism steps in i.e. YOU negotiate with a contractor to build a cheap home.

Already built homes? They should be priced on the cost of material and leave it at that. Fuck the concept of "b-but muy home is near a good school so I should be able to charge 10x mooooore whaaa" shut the FUCK up. It should be a first come first serve. Nothing more.

>>20458648
I could list the many ways in which this is actually government's fault, but retards like you operate on emotion, not logic, so you won't listen anyway. I will only let you know this: when you vote to enact yet more ill conceived state regulation that inevitably ends up further increasing your rents and squashing you wages, I will be there, laughing, at how you fools are your own worst enemy.

>>20458861
"Entitled"

>>20458861
You are a retard

>>20458648
You could just not live in LA, retard. Actually, no. Stay in California and get into a car accident with an illegal tweeked out on meth on the freeway.

>>20458648
Move, retard.

agreed
people should be able to rent out rooms in the house they live in but holding 10 rental properties for profit should not be a thing

>>20458648
where did you get these fake numbers from

A huge reason houses in California are so expensive is that your houses have to be built to withstand incredibly strong earthquakes. The regulations put into place to allow for this double construction costs compared to areas that don't have this issue.

Just fucking move dude

>>20458648
wahhhhh i have to live in LA!!! i have to be in LA or NYC!!!!!! And dont say thats where all the jobs are. Not true. Housing being so expensive in these places is going to cause mass exodus of people from these big cities (already is happening) and equilibrium will be met as people pour into smaller towns and more rural states. Cities are and always have been designed for elites. youre not elite, most people arent elites. go live in a small town poorfag

>>20459130
personally i think they should ban all types of short selling and only buying.

Living in a city is literally retarded in this day and age. If you can't afford it, make more money or move somewhere affordable.

I heard chicks in LA will literally let landlords fuck them for free rent. Almost makes me want to move there.

>>20459025
Unironically this

What do you mean fuck republicans? Democrat states and cities have the highest rent and ownership costs.

>>20458861
immigration increases the demand of housing. Foreign owners of houses lowers the supply of available homes. Vacant houses that are out of reach for your maturing adults, owned by foreign investors, force lower income people into rent dwellings.

The TLDR; China buy house. Mexican buy house. Poor people get fucked.

>>20458648
>Fuck republicans
I’m sure there are no democrat landlords or democratic congressmen or senators who cozy up to the real estate industry

>>20458648
>Fuck republicans
Republicans running LA? This is why you faggots are a fucking joke to everyone with two brain cells.

>>20459082
>>20459105
The average retard republican
Also lmao at you quoting "entitled". I guess you arent entitled to freedom of speech or gun rights, huh :)

Get fucked

>>20459118
Looooooooooooooool look, retarded mother fucker. This is known as a COP OUT. You dont just go full retard and say "the problem is awesome! Dont like it, just move from the state you were born in!"
Imagine being that fucking stupid.

>>20459143
Literally fucking google them. Imagine thinking I picked random ass numbers. All you have to do is copy and paste and you'll find it, dumb bitch. Dont just call things fake because they hurt your feelings

>>20459157
Huh?? My apartment is a small complex and made out of cardboard. This shit wouldnt survive a big earth quake. Secondly, texas has cheaper homes and their homes are arguably sturdier to combat hurricanes.

>>20459161
>whaaaa I dont have an argument so I'll just support oligarchy like a retard
kek

>>20459184
shit copout

>>20459025
Aka you have no argument and just use fluff terms to pretend you know what youre talking about. Kek

>>20459231
that's my point. Real estate being allowed to operate as a for profit business is the problem. Leeches/landlords abuse their position.

>>20459227
What real estate regulations do republicans support? Since when have republicans been for anyone other than those in control of the oligarchy? Republicans want to keep people poor so they can keep being neets

>>20459272
Hahahahahahaha read the 7th greentext. Quite literally addressed that, moron. Holy fuck.

Also, answer this: >>20459334

>>20459285
>Looooooooooooooool look, retarded mother fucker. This is known as a COP OUT. You dont just go full retard and say "the problem is awesome! Dont like it, just move from the state you were born in!"
>Imagine being that fucking stupid.
You literally can not afford to live in LA. If you had any fucking sense, you would move to Fresno, Madera, or fucking anywhere in the central valley where you could afford to live, but instead you choose to live in the degenerate hell scape that is LA. I have no sympathy for you, and hope you unironically die of a drug overdose or get killed by an illegal.

>>20459285
so live in a shipping container complex on a steel platform 26' in the air in Texas. Cheap, hurricanes can't get you. I like where you're going with this, sounds comfy desu. there should be a government provided pod container on stilts for anyone in need of housing.

>>20459231
>China buy house. Mexican rents 5 families to a house. Mentally Ill get subsidized. Working people get fucked.
ftfy

>>20459350
> You literally can not afford to live in LA
NEITHER CAN THE MAJORITY

idiot. Moron. Missing the fucking point. So what.. should literally over 50% of people move? My point is if a system makes it so the majority are fucked, the problem isnt people, its the fucking system, moron

>>20459350
>whaaaa! How DARE you mention an inefficiency! Everything is perfect!
Dumbass bitch, I swear

>>20458648
Rent control incentivizes developers to build commercial real estate over residential, further decreasing supply. Don't live in an area where a lot of other people want to live. nigger

>>20459285
>>20459320
>>20459334
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Evil conservatives! Evil landlords!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That people like you suffer must from government housing intervention almost makes me want to vote for progressive politicians.

>California is shit because it lacks regulations
Mate half the reason housing is so expensive is because theres a lack of homes and making more has become a liability
>B-but just have rent control
Kek, enjoy NYC tier rent state wide

NJ: 175k for a literally falling down rotten 1bd 1 ba. That's 175k for the privilege of having to bulldoze a house and rebuild

175k in Georgia is a 3 Bd 2 Ba house.

I hope metro-cuck areas go extinct

>>20459350
>>20459285
>>20459320
>>20459334
>>20459399

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Evil conservatives! Evil landlords!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That people like you suffer most from government housing intervention almost makes me want to vote for progressive politicians.

>tfw someone chooses to live in a densely populated shit-hole city instead of somewhere they can actually afford
>tfw they claim they're being oppressed by society instead their own horrible decisions

move dumbass
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cheapest-places-rent-090000361.html

>>20459334
Kill yourself

>>20459426
again, 0 argument.

>>20459440
>lack of homes
Stats?
ALSO, that is irrelevant. Homes/apartments currently available should not be owned by some landlord. People themselves should be their own landlord. This system doesnt allow that. Instead, a lot of the pricing is ARTIFICIAL. Literally made up from the fucking air. A lot of the pricing is NOT based on the actual costs of maintaining and building a home. Homes/apartments should NOT be priced on supply and demand. They should be static. The fucking dirt wont magically become more expensive to live on. Its just fucking dirt

The bullshit is that they don’t let you sleep in your car in LA that’s quintessential to getting started and saving up, you use the gym shower go to your two jobs then buy a cucked out property to cry yourself to sleep in at night.

>>20459469
Aka youre retarded. Got it

>>20459477
read: >>20459510

>>20459025
/thread

>>20459350
>Pic
Other than the getting snipped part, sounds comfy honestly.

>>20458781
>>20458809
>>20459285
>>20459320
>>20459334
>>20459344
>>20459399
>>20459413
>>20459510
I could’ve agreed with a couple of your points, but you are so hopped up on resent that you are unbearable to listen to. Get rekt tranny. I hope I hear about you in a ditch somwewhere

>>20459518
that is indeed also omega tier levels of retarded.
It's also apparently illegal to be homeless basically.

All the regulations at the wrong things. Fucking idiot politicians

>>20459510
>ALSO, that is irrelevant.
This is bait, no way someone on this board can think having less of something doesn't make it more valuable. That's basic economics.

>>20458648
Welcome to supply and demand. Most retards are against eugenics programs and population control. More people are being born and flooding the country every year, meanwhile only so many houses can be built in a given year. With the limited resources that we have on this planet, we can only reasonably sustain a global population of 1.5 billion or less people. The only thing holding us back are retards who aren’t willing to make a big decision for the sake of humanity.

>>20459567
>tranny
imagine projecting this hard. Hardy kek

>>20459580
Youll kill yourself soon enough.

>>20459572
>having less of something doesn't make it more valuable. That's basic economics.
I KNOW that, you illiterate bitch. Why the fuck do you think I said "prices shouldnt be subject to supply and demand"? The only reason what you said is true is because it is ALLOWED.

>>20459576
>implying CA regulations + seething boomer NIMBY homeowners aren't artificially restricting the supply side
In true capitalism there'd be plenty of sketchy claptrap apartments for poor folks to live in

>>20459641
Idk about that. You probably will tho considering trannies have close to a 40% suicide rate :). Do a flip

>>20459569
Based Democrats dabbing on their own voting block. Don't worry though anon, I'm sure your war on expensive housing will be just as successful as the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, etc...

>>20459668
>prices shouldnt be subject to supply and demand
Kill yourself commie

>>20459025
You cant force a horse to drink water....

anon, you’re pretty much correct in all you’ve said (although seething but meh it’s entertaining) but i don’t see why you posted when biz is literally just incel conservative “Christian” sheep who never strayed from what daddy taught them. more than half don’t have any form of education beyond (most likely a shitty) high school (“College is a meme!!!”) and repeat rhetoric circle jerked by each other. just browse for the memes and chain link news. you’ll save yourself trouble and stupidity.

>>20458648
Hahahahahahah get fucked forever, you worthless piece of marxist shit

>anon, you’re pretty much correct in all you’ve said (although seething but meh it’s entertaining) but i don’t see why you posted when biz is literally just incel conservative “Christian” sheep who never strayed from what daddy taught them. more than half don’t have any form of education beyond (most likely a shitty) high school (“College is a meme!!!”) and repeat rhetoric circle jerked by each other. just browse for the memes and chain link news. you’ll save yourself trouble and stupidity.

>>20459747
not am argument
>>20459773
lmao at everything you dont like being communism. low iq argument, ape

>>20459841
except he didnt list content. Just fluff words that morons like you think actually portray meaning lmfao, sheep

>>20459844
true

>>20459868
not an argument

>>20459898
stay mad, sheep

>>20459957
*portray as having meaning

>>20459686
>In true capitalism there'd be plenty of sketchy claptrap apartments for poor folks to live in
kek, this is true
also OP Is unironically a fag

>stay mad, sheep

>>20459957
"Prices shouldn't be subject to supply and demand" is obviously not low IQ, kek. Kill yourself.

>>20459957
Here's my argument: for the long term health, wealth and housing security of the west, we should be executing the bottom 1% of society annually (the long term unemployed, petty criminals, communists, etc). Not only will this weed out the unproductive malcontents, it will lessen housing demand and increase average genetic fitness of the population! Imagine a future with only attractive successful people in it.

I see shareblue just got some more money for shills this fiscal year.
Here's a few things to consider:
1. You live in a democrat hellscape but spent more time complaining about republicans
2. You think LA, being a desirable location, wouldn't get even more of you locusts there if rent was cheap and you'd end up with an even more crowded, just as expensive place
3. You think everyone is entitled to cheap rent with good weather and beach access, the world doesn't work that way
4. Fuck you
5. Never respond to socialist rent posters more than once

>>20460102
dude, what is your job? I have a feeling you arent even making 30 an hr and are acting as if youre in the top percentile.

Lmfao at this deluded fuck

>>20460058
>>20460040
Childish argument. I pity you. Imagine using memes as shitposts and calling that an argument LOL

>>20460144
Tl;dr
you are illiterate and creating strawman argument hahahahahaha what a fucking retard. Try again. With honesty this time. No more strawmans, okay? Okay? Good? Good.

>20460184
Go back already

>>20460172
I'll give you a hint, it's not hourly, and it makes commie faggots on the internet seethe endlessly.

>>20460199
you deserve all the suffering you get

>>20460199
LA faggots are always so obvious
they literally contradict themselves
then they 'talk fast' and contradict themselves again
most people hate california
you are the reason why

>>20460266
aka youre an unemployed high schooler. Stay in school, kid

>>20460278
kys and your trannie parents

>>20460308
what the fuck? Talking fast? This is text, you dumb insufferable bitch.

Then build a house. Oh you won't? Then I guess you'll have to pay that price, sorry not sorry entitled faggot.

>>20460344
Ironically, he can't because of regulations

>>20460342
human trash
you're exactly where you belong

>>20458648

You're a fucking moron. It's cost prohibitive due to odious zoning regulations and cronyism in local politics. Notice all the free market red states aren't that fucking expensive? Dumbshit

>>20459025

Agreed, Jesus Christ. Just stay in your containment zone and spare us your incapability to think.

>>20460363
What do you mean? Why can't he build his own house that is up to regulations?

>>20460344
>Then build a house.
that's my point, dumb mother fucking bitch. Illiterate fucker. The closest land to me is far from stores to buy food. That and even land is poisoned by supply and demand instead of making things cheap. Overpriced just because it can.

Youre also missing the point. These cardboard homes are not priced on material alone which should be the only determinant factor. You cant read. Learn to fucking READ

>>20460344
>>20460363
This dumbass wants even more regulation when he already doesn't have the resources to
1. Buy land
2. Get zoning approval
3. Extend utility lines
4. Get building materials approved by code
5. Get gome design approved by county
6. Find a crew
7. Get home built
8. Pass inspection
ANNNNND
then have some faggot insist he rent out the place to him for dirt cheap.
Fuck this guy.

>>20458781
>>20458861
Poor /biz/tards here.

Also, California sucks..

I clear 250k/yr in Florida, llc based in Seattle.

Sucks to be you faggots.

>>20460408
Then move to another place? Are you actually retarded, why would you live in a place that is so expensive? Maybe you can go somewhere you can afford? This is pretty basic problem solving dude.

>>20460411
What a colossal idiot.

>>20460381
This is sad levels of shitpost.
It's basically like me saying "youre a faggot ass bitch" over and over again. In this case, it is true. You are indeed a faggot ass bitch, thing is that doesnt further the discussion. Fucking retardation.

>>20460390
>notice all the free market red states
Lol. First of all you assume they are cheap due to no regulations (which makes fuck all sense considering landlords would try to bleed you for as much as they can without regulations). Secondly, retarded redneck, the main issue is how homes are not priced on the cost of material aka static price and is instead priced on thin air. Supply and demand IS the problem.

Do you actually HONESTLY believe california's real estate situation can be fixed by letting it be a free market with ZERO regulations? Are you actually telling me this retarded horseshit? Landlords are also allowed to raise rents even when wages dont keep up. That is YOUR type of system which is RETARDED to think of as good for consumers

>>20460408

Look at this raging chimp. Cali is so doomed.

>>20460451
Based fellow Florida Chad. How do you get 250k a year?

>>20460406
>Why can't he build his own house that is up to regulations
He theoretically could but I doubt he'd be willing to wait, has the resources, time, and money. Besides the return on investment wouldn't be worth it in CA, maybe elsewhere but sure as shit not in LA especially.

>>20460465
>Do you actually HONESTLY believe california's real estate situation can be fixed by letting it be a free market with ZERO regulations? Are you actually telling me this retarded horseshit? Landlords are also allowed to raise rents even when wages dont keep up. That is YOUR type of system which is RETARDED to think of as good for consumers

Yeah. I really do, dumb ass. Notice anything here about Cali, Illinois, and NY?

>>20460404
aka
>agreed, fellow sheep. Fuck this guy for questioning the status quo
kek. Go to north korea. Kim loves undying brainless loyalty.

>>20460411
more regulations targeting the right things, you bumbling retard. Not all regulations are good. Regulations should focus on making things cheaper. If it does the opposite, they should be done away with. Landlords for instance shouldnt be allowed to just randomly raise rent because they fucking feel like it for instance. Homes should be priced on material. That fucking simple.
Everything you listed is common sense, you dumb ape. I dont even know what the fuck was the point. You just listed logistics. Okay!?

>>20460411
>then have some faggot insist he rent out the place to him for dirt cheap.
Youre an idiot. The point youre missing is that prices are largely arbitrary. Not everyone wants some fucking 3000sqft home. You actually think some small 300sqft home would be all that expensive to make? Shut the fuck up if you think that

>>20460524

>the problem with the most regulated state in the entire country, is that it isn't regulated enough!!

>>20460524
Are you a male?

Imagine facing problems and thinking “the government needs to fix this!” Instead of actually trying to improve your situation.

Fucking pathetic. Get your shit together.

>>20459334
But I just explained to you that Democrat states are worse in respect to your contention. I’m not saying republicans are the paragon of virtue but the idea that democrats are crusaders of the poor and downtrodden goes against the economic reality of their own demense.

I’m not even American btw

>>20460451
either larping or an exception. Exceptions dont make the rule. The majority are indeed fucked. Thats not an opinion, retard

>>20460458
Yes, it will probably come to that as this state is largely incompetent. I just see that answer as a copout to ignore all the flaws instead of trying to fix it

>>20460468
Look at this raging chimp. Republicans are so doomed.
:)

>>20460480
larping or cs

>>20460510
Lol thats another thing with you retards. I clicked thinking it was going to be informative, yet all it is is scapegoating. Fucking hell, I expect too much.

>>20460509
Then I guess he's going to have to pay whatever the price is then. Why does he think that other people should be forced to provide shelter for him? The entitlement is unreal.

>>20460542
in the wrong areas, dipshit. Strawman arguments is all you dumbass republicans are good for

>>20460588
>Instead of actually trying to improve your situation.
Imagine being so utterly retarded to ignore this "problem" doesnt just affect little oh me. It affects the grand MAJORITY. Dumbass retard. If it affects the MAJORITY, the problem isnt the MAJORITY, it's the fucking system itself, bitch.

>>20460591
>democrats are crusaders of the poor and downtrodden goes against the economic reality of their own demense.
No, I see them as retards too. I just see republicans as bigger retards.

sounds like you need a better job buddy

>>20460626
But the vast majority of your grievances are related specifically to DNC states/cities.
But I agree that Housing should never have become a commodity for speculation but that’s greed for you.

>>20460633
Sounds like so do over about 70% of LA residents.
Ya no. When it's THAT bad, it is no longer the fault of the individual.

>>20460647
> But I agree that Housing should never have become a commodity for speculation but that’s greed for you.
Okay. The middle ground. We 100% agree there.

>>20460593
lol you still poor, and I can do whatever the fuck I want cause I own property, have my own bizness and I'm not a minimum wage cuck

Enjoy bitching about I'm the "exception" when you really compare yourself among calitards that also make shit.

I can't wait for all you faggots to be evicted :)

>>20460674
Yes, larper. And I bought btc early and now have a billion dollars. Smh. Stay in school, retard.

>>20460465
just stating the obvious to you
maybe if you hear it enough you'll realize how much of a fuckhead you are

>>20460654
Hahahahahahah

>>20458781
You don't have to stay, someone else will move right in. Rent raises are the easiest way to get rid of poor scum.

>>20458809
It isn't, and never will be. Private ownership of property is a wonderful thing. Now suck LL cocks off. :)

>>20458861
The first three rules of Real estate are location, location and location. Of course local services, government and amenities are going to be of consideration.

>>20459025
Cali wants this. :D

>>20459157
Not really. Block home on concrete foundation is not $$$.

>>20459231
Funny part is china and mexico are poor ppl.
O wait, not anymore. Only fucking OP.

>>20460614
Move out of LA, you effeminate little bitch. Basic supply and demand. Lots of people want to live in LA means prices go higher. There’s not enough room for everyone.

You don’t know the slightest thing about economics or finance. You can’t even solve your own problem. What makes you think you can solve society’s problems. What a joke you are.

>>20460685
lols op

I did buy btc early, mt gox gang here.

I also dropped out of uni, lemme guess, you didn't and have student debt too? LOL

Go kill yourself, you're a pitiful excuse of a /biz/tard and wouldn't even belong on the pity site reddit.

--

AS for LA, my annual trip there didn't happen to fuck LA bitches at animeexpo. :( I volunteer every year for the party invites and hotel crashes and damn.

Oh well. I'm sure you've been fucking your fair share of bitches, right anon? Or are they not distributed enough? lols.

>>20458648
if cum guzzling OP is still active you should watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0h8kfA4i_A

>>20458648
Leftists like this will never be successful. It’s ingrained in their weak-chinned DNA. I’ve made a literal fortune off of these whiny faggots, in real estate nonetheless. OP is a literal bug person, incapable of thinking for himself. He’s blissfully unaware that his chosen party, the party of bureaucracy, red tape, and endless regulation, is the largest reason for inflated real estate prices in these urban hellscapes. If he were capable of rational, not emotional, thought, he’d educate himself and find ways to succeed within the given rules of the current system. He’s most likely 16-18 years old, so maybe there’s still hope for him, but given the whiny, entitled nature of everything he posts, I wouldn’t bet on it. OP, the system isn’t holding you down. You are holding yourself down. Learn to separate emotion from rational thought or you will never become remotely successful, and you certainly will not know happiness.

>>20460785
Cuck

>>20460726
>>20460729
>>20460735
>>20460763
>>20460785
This is pretty cringe.
1. Shitposts
2. Larping (bought btc early lmfaooo this bitch wont post proof. Fucking highschoolers)
3. Repeating arguments I already beat to the ground ("duuur supply and demand duuur it how works" bitch. Ive stated no fucking shit thats how it works, retard. I am saying basing real estate on speculation in the first place is why this state is shit. It's actually why the majority in the COUNTRY, NOT just california were that fucked. "Were"? Yes, "were" because all this was PRE corona. Shit is obviously even worse now. This country has always been a joke due to necessities being based on wild speculation rather than being justly priced. Real estate isnt a luxury, fucko).

>>20460859
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL THIS HAS TO BE A LARP
get rekt

>>20460408
Are there no labor costs to building homes? How about engineering costs? Running utilities doesn’t cost anything? How about all of the inspections, appraisals, surveying the land before/during/after construction— no cost to that? Financing the construction, that’s all obviously done at no cost, right? Nope, only the materials used to build the house should be figured into the cost of the house! I hope you’re young and dumb, because if you’re out of high school and still this naive and retarded, there’s absolutely no hope for you. Fucking pathetic Marxist. You’re incapable of competing in the free market. Literal bug person.

>>20458648
But Anon, it is ethical. And it is due to democrats. Why are you such a communist?

>>20460804
did you even watch the vid? Rich guy is paying 2k a month thanks to affordable housing regulations targeted and would have had to have paid 10k a month without the regulations. Not even my words lmfao. Watch your own vid.

Even the black economists in about the 2 minute mark says as much. Hes basically being a whiny bitch and saying "whaaa pay what the free market wants, their!!". Dumb bitch fails to realize landlords are the real thieves, but I digress. Video even shows how effective regulation was.

The result is houses and apartments in the FREE market costs more than those that had rent control (further proving how the free market is shit with real estate).

Basically it hurts people NOT a part of the regulations due to how landlords don't want to build in cities with rent control (fuck landlords. Society shouldnt be relying on them to build homes).

Also, landlords who cant raise rent due to rent control dont make repairs. That SHOULD result in them losing that property, but it doesnt hence why I said california has regulations, but shit regulations that target the wrong things.

If anything throughout the end of the video, it is mentioned that a subsidy would be more effective than rent control itself to prevent the 2 cons I mentioned here (what I extrapolated from the vid). I'd be cool with that too even if you retards keep the shitty free market system.

>>20460809
Aka if true youve made money inheriting from daddy and being a neet/leech. Get off your high horse. It's not hard to make money with real estate. Hard part is saving for it which this system makes it hard to do.

>>20460919
>nooo!!! What do you mean you dont believe I have 1 million bitcoin!! whaaaa
retard

>>20460932
>labor cost
use your head. I basically mean all costs should be priced in. Not just material. Labor and whatever the fuck there is to it, but that should be the end of it. People should only have to pay necessities when it comes to real estate. Fuck the idea of basing them off of speculation.

>>20460932
> You’re incapable of competing in the free market.
Youre literally retarded and illiterate. I pity you. Read: >>20459399

>>20461033
First paragraph has grammatical errors as I didnt proof read and changed a few things. With half a brain cell, the things ive said should still be easy to follow. I basically just summarized a 5 min vid

>>20461033
you are such a dumb retarded mentally-ill faggot

The issue IS its a Democrat state. It places more regulation on building houses and more tax on squatting in land therefore people build them at a slower rate. Lower supply and higher demand due to shit skins breeding like animals on top of that. It isn't an issue in republican states because there's less feral niggers taking subsidized housing AND less regulations in terms of building houses so they can just squat on land and pump them out when the market/demand increases (stabilize them).

>>20458648
>he thinks LA housing is expensive because of a LACK of regulation

>>20459320
I live in Switzerland. We have rent control and high immigration. Housing is still fucked, with hordes of applicants all trying to get the same few shitty apartments.

High immigration always fucks housing, it's just basic supply and demand. You either restrict immigration, or you allow endless mass building to account for it, having people live like battery hens in China style mass density housing blocks. Capitalism or not is irrelevant, all those people have to live somewhere.

>>20461111
>whaaaaaaaaaaa Im fucking retarded and cant make a counter argument whaaaaa
All I literally did was summarize the video and even then you say im retarded lmfaoo holy FUCK. Omega levels of retardation. Kys

>>20461113
Literally inside the video and I addressed that.

>>20461121
Arguably so. Regulations done wrong gives regulations a bad name. Thing is the real issue is the SOURCE for new homes which happens to be this society relying sociopaths that only care about their own best interests being in charge of making homes. THAT is why regulations get fucked. Because the SOURCE of home creation are random ass rich landlords. Obviously they wont build new homes.
Rent control only works for existing homes and apartments

>>20461310
*build new homes in cities with rent control
The video the dumbass above cited mentioned subsidies could help, but I believe we just need to change the whole system in such a way where it doesnt rely on the rich landlords doing the building

>>20459569
Yeah, those Republican politicians, right??

>>20459844
Cringe.

>>20461377
>>20461388
If youre going to post low effort low IQ bullshit, just shut the fuck up and go to your trannie trap threads

ye im sure this will work out in 2021

>>20461476
Read: >>20461436

>>20458648
Realestate is a bubble everywhere. A 1bhk, 900 sq.ft house in the slums of Mumbai will cost you aroundd $230k

>100+ posts of lolbertarians and libtards griping
>no one recognizes how both systems devolve into feudalism
>no mention of straussianism

it's like you guys dont even want to fix the problem

>>20461310
>sociopaths that only care about their own best interests being in charge of making homes
What puts them in charge? Oh, right, the government. derp

>>20461436
>If youre going to post low effort low IQ bullshit, just shut the fuck up and go to your trannie trap threads
The irony in this thread is delicious.
Also
>41 posts by this ID
Amazing.

>>20461646
Did you mean Strasserism?

>>20461649
any and all western countries don't have rules limiting home development to a certain ordained group of people.
the free market instead put a defined caste in charge, retard.
sociopath landlords exist in places without governments, and they exist in greater number, with even greater powers.
that's literally what feudalism is.

>>20461684
Your id is literally nigger. Your argument is invalid
(see? I can post retarded shitposts too!)

>>20461436
the only low IQ here is you fag
keep crying about those republican politicians running los angeles

>>20461555
Damn. Talk a out bullshit and the free market cock suckers that love speculation just eat this shit up.
>See! Free market works!
I dont believe it does with real estate just from shit like this

>>>/pol/
stinking communists

>>20461812
>youre low IQ cuz I sayd so!
Fucking kill yourself. Tired of dumbass low effort shitposts

>>20461832
>>>/pol/
stay there, never come back marxist

>>20461824
>whaaaaa! Everything I dont like is communism!
What a fucking buzzword. Again, if youre going to post low IQ moronic bullshit, go fuck off to your trannie trap threads instead

>>20461850
>>>/pol/
loser

>>20461841
>WHAAA communist and marxist!! Whaaaa
Read: >>20461850

Low IQ apes and your buzzwords, kek
>mommy! I called him a commie again haha I win!

>>20461863
back to >>>/pol/ poorfag

>>20461857

right wingers are fragile faggots that only give a shit about problems that directly affect them

>>20458648
You're mad as heck. Not gonna read all you're ranting.

>Is the price of housing a rip off?
100%
>Median salary 27k?
Last I saw it was 31k but that was a figure from maybe 2017 to 2019.
>Will I buy real estate and rent it out if i was rich enough?
Lol of course.
>Politics?
Lol anon you do know most have been bought out, right? Don't give me that "only Republican's are" nonsense, most of U.S. politicians aren't serving you at all.

Also shut up, your motives seem more political (blaming republicans) than actually about rent. Do you actually think Democrat or Republican politicans serve you? They may have some similar ideals yo your ideals but to actually think they themselves truly believe in serving you rather than their self interests...well? On that note, let all the immigrants in. Come and tell me about your rent problems when we have 10x the population but only enough room for 1/10 of them. See anon? This isn't about rent you're just ranting about politics. I mean if you went full blown Democrat house prices would be controlled but all immigrants allowed in. So what happens when there isn't enough room? Demand construction companies build it? For free? For cost of materials and labor only (that's more work than a janny on 4chan who doesn't get paid).

>>20461876
Very very true. Selfishness is what they embody

Baste >>20460102

>>20461875
>>>/pol/

>>20459025
this.
https://reason.com/2018/02/21/san-francisco-man-has-spent-4-years-1-mi/
>complain rent is too high
>refuse to allow people to build apartments
lol

>>20461898
Long story short, youre nitpicking (and are wrong kek. I was looking at median wages from LA).
Youre also retarded for saying this is mostly political. Yes, republicans are retarded and I want the world to know, but this is 90% about rent. Your assumptions are wrong, sorry, retard.
The rest is word salad bullshit showing you dont understand shit

>>20461310
>>whaaaaaaaaaaa Im fucking retarded and cant make a counter argument whaaaaa
>All I literally did was summarize the video and even then you say im retarded lmfaoo holy FUCK. Omega levels of retardation. Kys
it's not worth my time replying to your garbage recycled bait thread. also it's wahhhh not whaaa

before jannies delete the post I'm just stopping by to say kill all landlords

>>20461908
Yet the retard pussied out when I asked wha his job was hahahahahahahahaha

>>20461913
>>20461875

>>20461923
I LITERALLY addressed that you illiterate fuck. Just ONE example: >>20461033

>>20458648
>Luxury is a choice.

Okay
>House rent
Free
>Utilities
Free
>Mail
Free

>Taxes
$3000
>Video game console price
$1200
>Video game average price
$200
>Bed
$4000
>TV
$7000
>Car (honda civic)
$100000
>Car (tesla cyber truck)
$1000000
>Ordinary T-shirt
Free
>Supreme brand T-shirt
$10000

Don't reeeee it's not a necessity.

>>20461942
Aka you have no counter argument and are pussying out. Topkek

>>20459025
>I could list the many ways in which this is actually government's fault, but retards like you operate on emotion, not logic, so you won't listen anyway.
Based.

>>20461950
>commie nigger seethe
>reeee gimme shit fo free nigguh
>cant into rest of world
You best hope we dont have a civil war, your ilk will be the first to meet god.

report VqFBHtxs
for trolling outside of /b/

>>20461953
1. Have no fucking idea what youre doing

2. No one said things should be free. Quite me :). Na, you wont. Keep straw-manning

>>20460859
You post a lot of long posts.

Tl;dr
I'll work on getting rich while you can be here 5 years later in the same position still seething.

>>20461965
Based despite me fucking him up, lol

>>20461999
1. Commie is a buzz word
2. No one asks for free shit :) retard
3. not a sentence kek
4. First to meet god.... LOL
a. You didnt capitalize "g" which shows disrespect to your god
b. republicans embody selfishness which is anti-christian
c. the christian god is all about "helping people". Something republicans loathe

Youre so fucking stupid that you cant even see your hypocrisy

>>20462030
>i'll be rich in 5 years!!!!!!
Let me guess. Youre still in high school and think it's going to be that easy.. lol. Good luck, retard. Youre going to need it :)

>>20458648
>>20461961
>tfw you will always be poor and skill less
>tfw you don't have the brain power to move somewhere less expensive.
>tfw you will always blame others so you aren't forced to better yourself.

Maybe you should develop a skill, like sucking dick. You can turn tricks behind a 7-11 and make your market rate.

>>20460408
>These cardboard homes are not priced on material alone which should be the only determinant factor.
Lol no one would build one besides for themselves and close/distant family. Maybe for very close friends.

Congrats you know live in an actual cardboard box on a piece of dirt, no grass cause you dont know how to install a sprinkler system and refuse to buy grass seeds for anything more than labor and shipping costs.

>>20462039
>nitpicking like a a faggot
Suck some nigger dick plz ty

>>20462063
1. More meme image
2. I have more skills than you most likely. 150 college units too. You, bitch :)? Thats right.
3. Majority are fucked. Not just me :). Your peanut brain doesnt get that, does it?

>>20462068
>besides for themselves and close/distant family.
That's literally my point. A system like this would make more sense. Do you even know what rich landlords are? MIDDLE MEN. It's better to cut off the middle man and have people be able to negotiate with contractors. Dumbass cant see this lol

>>20460342
>aka youre an unemployed high schooler. Stay in school, kid

>yet he's here complaining about rent likely with at least a master's degree

>>20462099
Seems like you're the nigger dick sucking faggot here with that saved pic anon.

>>20462099
Hahahaha imagine actually saving this image on your computer. What a fucking faggot

>>20462125
>>20462125
dubs+filename=fuck you

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>>20462123
Youre not following, are you? The majority are fucked. A system that fucks the majority means the problem isnt people, but the system itself. Follow step 1 at minimum, for fucks sakes.

>>20462157
Ya, we know you are. What's your point?

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>>20462173
>>20462169

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>>20462161
>The system
Kek. You are a moron who has not a shred of an idea what you are talking about. I pity you, in any other time then the late 20th century, you would have been dead for several decades or had to adapt. Good thing the window is closing, your probability to die by the hand of somebody else is scaling up with the amount of competences you try to give the state through mob rule as it loses step by step the ability to protect your sorry ass

>>20462116
>college units
Yea, that doesn't mean you have any marketable skills. You obviously don't.

My peanut brain developed a skill without college debt. I saved a lot of money and invested wisely, the best is yet to come.
>stay poor
>stay mad

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>>20462222
I already posted actual content and didnt just say "the system" bit whatever. Retards will be retards kek. Noce job ignoring my posts abive and cherry picking :)
Pathetic dumb bitch
Secondly, what is your job :)
Dont act like an elitist when you dont have shit :)

>>20462223
I have a background in the electrical trade at minimum :)
Kys

>>20462261
Oh? enough to get paid to do it? Then why are you making 14$ an hour? I'll tell you why, its all you're worth faggot.

>>20462295
Aaaaaand I already destroyed you here: >>20462116
point 3

Secondly when I was doing that bullshit, I got paid that little because free market i.e. not enough unions.
Dumbass :) missing the point like always. Really makes me wonder what larp job you have

>>20462249
no, you are just trolling
an attention whoring 12 year old
>>>/twitch/ you stupid thot

>>20462371
Genuine question. What the hell is your age?

>>20462261
61 posts. Jesus, you have no life at all.

>>20462429
>you have posted so much today therefore youve never gone out once in your life
Stop sniffing mercury

>>20462429
63 posts goddamn man you really like to argue don't you?

>>20462369
You aren't worth shit. Did you just get in a fight with your mom so you come here to cry? You have no understanding of economics or the free market. Keep sucking dick anon.

>>20462449
I prefer gas or old school rubber cement.

>>20462464
Aka I beat you silly and all you say is "youre worthless" with saliva dripping down your lip. You also ignore my arguments. Either that or you were too low IQ to understand them. Good luck in life.

>>20458648
Guess what retard. Millions of people want to live in Los Angeles & the beach. Guess what happens when millions of people want to live in a place that has limited housing? The prices go up!

Want to know something else? When the government enacts rent control, you have a housing shortage! Wow! Who would've thought if every living space was restricted to no more than $200/month everyone and their mother would get a place for themselves leaving no room for anyone else. T. WW2. .

Price control causes shortages & it's been shown time and time again for thousands of years

If you can't afford to live in Los Angeles move somewhere you can afford to you idiot. Everyone wants to live in Los Angeles so obviously prices are going to be higher than anyhwree else stupid ass faggot fuck

He just keeps going. Like for what reason compels someone like that to keep on posting.

>>20462478
You're argument was that you have "college units". Means nothing. Stop posting and go to bed, try not to stay up thinking of how much of a worthless piece of shit you are.

>>20462514
I hate dumb bitches. Go up. Scroll. I addressed the housing shortage argument.
Rent control DOES work btw on existing property. The problem arises when trying to create new homes due to how this country relies on rich landlords to build homes and they dont want to build homes on places with rent control. Youre a parrot. Repeating shit already in this thread, smooth brain

>>20462521
And the pussy has yet to state their larp job. Just... kek..

>>20462516
loneliness. Imagine being poor, friendless, your family hates you, your BMI is around 35 and all you have is neo marxist feel good propaganda and twinkies - and /biz/

every normal human being would have long changed or committed sudoku, but marxists are different, barely human

>>20462559
Sad story. I feel for you now.

>>20458648
Dear retard nigger spawn, the Democrats import infinity niggers to simultaneously
1. lower wages for the indigenous population
2. overwhelm infrastructure
3. create unnatural competition for housing
4. create a shortage of housing driving the cost of housing up
5. tax the indigenous population transferring their wealth to unskilled alien niggers who pop out infinity unskilled nigger spawn leeches such as yourself
6. increase unemployment
7. increase crime
8. depress economic activity and productivity

>>20462542
You sound like a part time community college student. Good luck, you're gonna need it.

>>20462606
Kek. Look, retard. Your argument could potentially be solid and not look like dumbass scapegoating with actual stats. You wont do it though.

>>20462612
Literally just copying my insults at this point. Also lol at your edgy webm. Further makes you look like a high schooler when you try to act hard like that. And yet still you try to dodge my question of what your larp job is. Fucking pathetic as hell.

>>20462664
*if you used actual stats
this is not a research paper so just citing the actual impact immigrants cause will be decent enough for this thread. That said, that is NOT the main issue considering 50% of ALL renters nationwide were cost burdened pre-corona and dont bullshit me that was purely because of "muh immigrants".

>>20462664
Importing unskilled subhuman IQ monkeys from all over the world to loot our social services, flood our jails, overwhelm our hospitals, overrun our schools, pollute our gene pool, and compete for housing while inflicting idiotic "environmental" AKA austerity energy and housing policy on the populace is the fault of republicans.

Read a macroeconomics textbook moron nigger. Look at how much is costs to educate these subhuman IQ central American niggers George Soros imports. We just gave free health care to illegal alien niggers.

>>20462664
I'm an IT support manager for a government contract. I've been "working from home" since march. and I bring home 7k a month after taxes. Yet I wont have to work in less than 5 years. My webm is edgy because /biz/ seems to block all my better stuff.

Feel better?

>>20462725
Again, no stats. Fucking kill yourself
>just read a random macro economics book loool!
I bet your dumbass has never even taken a macro econ class lmfao

>>20462726
>government
So a job that relies on the government you hate. Why not just get a job in a company that relies on the free market and not tax payer money :)?

>>20462726
And ya, everyone on the internet does cs shit despite about 95% of the population not having cs related jobs. Keep your story. If True: Youre a hypocrite for relying on the government If False: Dont lie just to try to gain leverage

>>20462725
>It's ALWAYS the fault of immigrants!
Like bitch. I feel nothing for people, but I also think it's extremely low IQ of you to scapegoat them as the main issues and pretending this country would be perfect without them.
Even worse when your argument comes down to "just take my word for it!".

>>20462802
I work for a private company, hence the term contract.. My company over charges them and I get paid a lot more than most jobs and my healthcare is covered in my contract before my salary.

Government stole a lot of money from me over the years, this is me reclaiming it before they collapse on their own stupidity.

>>20462802
The cost of illegal alien health care in California was in my macroeconomics text book, it's the greatest expense aliens impose on our society, much greater than health care. You would know this if you were not an uneducated moron. The republikikes are trying to shut out alien niggers the cancerous democrat kikes are importing to lower the wages of Americans.

>>20462845
Aliens are a cancer on our society by every metric, especially the subhuman niggers the kikes like Gerorge Soros who controls the democrat party illegally imports. They aren't importing based japs or white europeans. It's all central American niggers whose only skill is digging with a shovel and making tortillas. t. Californian living in niggerstan

>>20462875
And again, at best without at least one ounce of data to go off of just makes you look like a down syndrome loon.

Oh, youre a white supremacist. Kek. Basically you are biased so nothing will change your mind. I bet you arent half as smart as you think you are. Or good looking. Feel free to prove that wrong

>>20462871
Whats your age? Probably will say 20s even if 30s just to try to make it seem like youre on top of the world, right?
End of the day, has nothing to do with the rent argument.