/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20378228
>700 million ICO that's DOMINATED by VCs
F U C K O F F F A G G O T

>>20378266
Retard, the VCs are locked under the same terms as the public sale and have a tiny fraction oif supply. Do you even read?

>>20378508
Lol Seed investors you dipshit. They've been vesting since Feb 2019. There dumping when listing because they want your money and want to buy it back >,33

>>20378559
Seed vesting starts after Mainnet

>>20378228
So there's AVA, SOL, NEAR, DOT, REV - so many fucking protocols that will take over defi lmao

i don't have enough fucking money for frick nigger sakes

>>20378508

Joke's on you, he can't read.

>>20378608

All are shit except for Avalanche, look at the actual teams behind them.

This isn't 2017/2018 anymore, invest for a quick flip. Invest in what has the chance to take over.

>>20378228
nice meme. got one for link?

once our bags are secured we gonna meme this into saturn

it was very nice

>Hey you can lock up your tokens for a year and get them for more than 50% of the price
>we don't even anticipate a 2x in the first year
Yeah this is a great buy

>>20378228
Token sale is starting in a few minutes, will be finished in a few minutes. Then we pump and bump.

>>20378608
Don't forget bZx

>>20378735
Avalanche has less than 3 second finality, 80% parametrized safety threshold.
No projects can compete.

>>20378735
You won't get in. Sale will end in 4 minutes either that or the site crashes don't say I don't warn you.

Which exchanges will list ava first?

more than an hour wait line

MORE THAN AN HOUR WTF

pls emin lemme in

>>20379478
>>20379489

Queue is random, not first come, first serve.

my ass that it's random, i bet they let the multimillion dollar whales first

>>20379581
I heard whales already bought other people's KYC.

>>20379581
I think the same, VC investment just seems like a scam. Still, I'm waiting too.
Did anyone try out the testnet and got a node running?

explorer.avax.network
Lol, wtf is goin on? Fuck all

ok. I'm in imma stop fud now.

15 mins wait time fags.

>>20380108
like you bought?

>>20380108
Someone came out the other side with coin

just a lil red flag to be careful. the jews are planning to attack defi like they did icos. of course negative defi press will be one of their main weapons. hopefully the jewish crime spree can be mitigated but there are not enough aryan supreme court justices or fed court justices to stop the jewish mennace. of course the jews already have used their fake dollar fedreserve scheme to capture most msm. Good luck

>>20380441
>32 mins remaining
20 mins later
>55 mins remaining
wtf is that srs

>>20380573
same bs for me.

>>20380661
same, got down to 19 minutes and back to "more than an hour"

>>20380671
>same, got down to 19 minutes and back to "more than an hour"
same, got down to 34 minutes, then 53 minutes and now back to "more than an hour"

so basically it takes time because people buy more than once

>>20380671
>>20380895
>>20380573
I got in and bought mine lolol

>>20380573
inspect element change time

>>20381159
approximately how many did you buy? just to see if whales come first

>>20381159
what was your gas price? a simple 1$ gas fee should do normally

>>20381202
1700

no rego wtf

>>20381239
but more importantly what was the amount you put first when you registered? if anything they can base the queue on that

lol got one houred again...greedy baklava vendor. off to ampl with my 1 eth

>>20381361
2000

>>20381438
I'm not even in.

Looks like the tokens are out for A1 and B already. Holy shit

>>20381438
how much $ did you state you would buy in the registration?

>>20381652
it's over, this is bullshit

>>20381652
HOLY SHIT

they let everybody with 1000$+ first, then the rest.

Fuck this buying when it hits exchanges and seed investors dump to buy back below .33 cents.

>>20381771
No. I invested less than 1k and said I would only invest 1k.

Its just random

FUCK AVAX
FUCK EMIN
FUCK NIGGERS

Fucking motherfuckers

6000 AVAX reporting in, bullish on this one.

>>20381820
>tfw you'll sell me your .85 bags at .20 lol

>>20381892
im not selling you a single AVAX mazzafakka

>>20381892
it will never dump below 0.5, 0.3 max.

this is complete bullshit,
"more than an hour".... fucking cunts I had to take time off for them twice for nothing

Are registrations closed already

>>20382051
2 pools are already closed, the 3rd one in a few minutes

>>20382021
Just bought a 1000
When do we get those babies?
I have to download their wallet?

Check this shit out. 14 x 25k purchases from the same wallet. Also reports from multiple people being able to buy all three allocations in the sane session while others wait. Fuck these cunts.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xa4c8d239493a90299949d34b8a3300a592447fd3

>>20382170
that's how it works. these cunts allow you to buy as much as you want during 10 minutes. a few whales before you and it's over.

>>20382236
what happened to the return to the end of queue if you buy more than 1 option thing?

>>20382282
oh that's right, it was supposed to be like that

>>20379204
Actually fantom can

Will I get a chance to buy this shit on an exchange? I hate fomoing in during token sales

>>20382350
maybe next month

>>20381783
No one is dumping. The supply when the coin comes out will be so low that a dump will be considered $2+

>>20382170
you need multiple identities to do that

>>20382350
if you haven't submitted the KYC you probably won't get in
if you've passed KYC you had plenty of time to make the decision yourself

i heard you can also stake your locked avax?
is that true?

and of course usdt is dumping too.

4 mins wish me luck

>>20382576
30 minutes, come back to report in

>>20382485
Yes

wtf should i do lol

>>20378228
Is 2020 the saddest year for ETH Maxis or what? Get shit on by Link Marines on the daily and miss it b/c they are so up their ass with "built on ETH bla bla bla" and now about to be BTFO by AVALANCHE. I FUCKING LOVE IT. ETH is an absolute steaming pile of dogshit.

>>20382846
So is their community and fearless leader Vitalik "Princess Unicorn" Buterin btw

>>20382742
the fuck? it gets stuck there?

>>20382905
Nah I had to wait 2 mins.
All clear, bought $25k.
Only a2 available.

Everyone plan on flipping that shit because of the garbage economics, The selling pressure will be massive on the first day.

>>20382170
106k stack here, can confirm 2x 25k for option a1 was possible in same session from same account.

>>20382976
Enjoy your 1.5 year lockup while it dumps for eternity

>>20378228
Huge scam. Keep your dead VC chain

>>20382998
>1.5 year lockup
it will prevent people from panic selling

>>20383019
>>20382998

you missed the boat anons? LoL.....stop being an idiot

>>20383019
supply is tiny at the beginning, watch it go through the roof from the sidelines faggot, vc or not doesn't matter

>>20382170
This is actually an ETH genesis Wallet.
Bullish on AVA frens

https://etherscan.io/address/0x5e32c72191b8392c55f510d8e3326e3a60501d62

Summary: 2 kycs, 100k AVA tokens in my bag locked for 1.5 years unfortunately.
Also 14 KYC-ed Denali testnet profiles worth another 28000 AVA.
Hope this hits $10 in 2022.

>>20382998
imagine thinking this coin's going to dump. The ICO put this coin's market cap so fucking low lmao.

~120m circulating supply after 1 year. at 0.5 per coin that is 60m market cap. That is like 95th place on coinmarketcap

this is going to a few billion

>>20383198
P.S. Forgot to mention, A2 is also limited to 25k, instead of the 2.5m they mentioned in the blog post.

>>20383224
See HBAR

>>20383258
HBAR supply and release is much worse.

after 1 year the inflation will be negligible for AVAX

>>20383258
HBAR is a marketing gimmick. Avalanche is built from scratch by a man who made the first proof of work implementation to mint coins.

Fucking garbage I though Emin would’ve known how to run a token sale instead of this bullshit. Couldn’t register last week muh ddos now this shit. Great.

>>20383113
Enjoy getting dumped on by x3 seed bags. Half the people i know that were interested in this a week ago aren't anymore (not because they didn't got in but they refused to participate in the next round because of greedines and amateurish organization), They hype died down already and the people who did want to participate today planned to put only small share of their original planned amount.

This shit is going to have 30M+ marketcap with less than 3% of the supply, this is retardation.

what's the max for option B?

where can we see if we received tokens? explorer.avax doesnt work

>>20383425
sure anon.....blablabla

you missed the boat and now you're gonna fud.
state of biz lately....f you ok?

>>20383224
Nobody care about circulating supply. The price of the project is judged relative to its total supply. There's no project with 3% circulating supply that ranked very high, Even HBAR with google partership and countless of other partners was barely top 100 for very long time. AVA have nothing on their side, The don't even have mainnet and projects tend to die right after mainnets anyway because of fud due to bugs

>>20383616
I'm barely angry as i planned to invest only 1k, Unless it does at least x4 (From 0.85$ not 0.5$) which it won't it wouldn't bother me much.

>>20383521
When do we get those tokens?
anyone?

I got in the queue but it never asked me for details.

>>20383620
at 360m coins with 0.5 per coin, that gives AVAX a market cap of 180m which is tiny.

This coin's token distribution is not as bad as HBAR or ALGO's. After 1 year inflation will be negligible

Brb celebrating while those who couldn't get in are fudding.

>>20383759
Tiny? What AVA did until now? This remind me of Zilliqa which was groundbreaking at the time, It dumped to near out of the top 100 despite having 70% of the supply circulating and not fucking 3%.

Flip that shit dude at whatever price it open on exchanges because this is going to "die" a slow death for the next 1 year.

>>20383759
Keep coping. Literally nobody has built anything on avalanche. More vaporware bullshit.

This is literally the second Chainlink, I'm so fucking bullish
Now it's a waiting game, AVAX will scale ETH with Athereum

>>20383875
>>20383759
So far as we know it AVA is almost only a paper project, It doesn't have even 1/10 of what already established chains in the top 50 have, It has plenty potential sure but 180M rightnow? Nah this is too much, Let alone people who think this is worth 2$+ which is near 1B lol.

>>20383962
the point is, it won't dump below 0.5 on exchanges

>>20383960
Link has optimal economics. AVA economics are among the worst that crypto ever seen.

>>20384017
you made your point anon, since your not in this you can get the f out of here now

when/where do we see they send the tokens

>>20384119
You bought into the most poorly planned and distributed ICO since 2017. Enjoy!

>>20384119
>you made your point anon, since your not in this you can get the f out of here now

>>20384017
>economics
by that you mean distribution? yeah it's not the best I'd admit
But AVAX will be locked up for staking and burned for fees, it's ETH 2.0 from the start

They modeled the token emission schedule in one of their papers, have a look

>>20384160
lol another one who missed the boat and fudding in avax threats, so pathetic.

>>20384191
Staking is not a usecase. Nobody is building with AVA

kek at the retards who put more than 100,000 gas limit. i see a tx with 900,000 gas limit and 17 gwei

>Option B
>This Round is No Longer Available
>This round for the Avalanche (AVAX) sale is no longer available. Click Profile to go back and select another round.
fuck this bullshit, i'm out
i'm not going to baghold for one year and a half waiting for VC and team to dump on me while BTC skyrocket to 40k

>>20384215
we need to bring others on board when those faggots flip their $0.85 token, imagine selling the future global financial infrastructure for a small profit

>>20384221
1. The network hasn't been launched yet
2. Avalanche supports EVM so projects can migrate relatively easily
your FUD is weak, get in when it's on exchange

>>20384191

The point is that it'll be overvalued from the start, No one is yet to build on AVA, fuck it doesn't even have a working mainnet and already valued at 360M+ considering maximum supply. The ICO from the start looked pretty underwhelming from ROI perspective but the hype justify trying to get in, After the shitshow that was last week the hype died down massively and i'm not sure it's as good of investment as it could've been.

*Potentially* great project but not a good investment for months to come.

>>20384406
>i'm not going to baghold for one year and a half waiting for VC and team to dump on me while BTC skyrocket to 40k
it won't dump below 0.5, 0.3 in the worst case. do you think whales who accumulated at those prices will let the price go below that? delusional. same with algorand, it didn't dump below 0.1$ for a reason, it was early investors price.

>>20384406
You can stake during lockup period and sell those reward
For me the lockup period isn't a problem since this is 100% better than Ethereum

>>20384473
Shouldn't consider maximum supply, it's reserved for staking so you're having ~2 future tokens with 1 present token. Won't dilute your share if you stake.
You don't deserve to make it if you don't understand what it means to have full EVM support. Sure it's a bet on future adoption as with every crypto, but I'm telling you it's a good bet.

>>20384632
>100% better than Ethereum
this. people don't understand it will unironically kill eth.

>>20384191
token distribution doesn't matter for ICO holders.

it only matters for those who buy the coin for $5 each on exchanges

>>20384632
>this is 100% better than Ethereum
it's promising but who fucking knows, not going to sell my eth before 2.0 pump

>>20384569
>>20384632

I agree that 0.3 is pretty safe. 0.5 is arguably but 0.85 is at great risk.

I'll wait for 0.3, It could take months and it could weeks , I guess it depends on BTC. If it's really promising project then whales will dump it down to seed price and accumulate, All great project dumped relentlessly before mooning.

You guys all bought in still in queue

>>20384709
>5$

that's absurd number, You're aware that this imply top 5 spot right off the bat without even a mainnet or even single use case to show right? Let alone that this is x17 seed price and x10 option A1 and A2. Pretty delusional on your side.

>>20384757
if you think this coin is going to 0.85 during the first year you're believing this coin will be on the 2nd page or extremely high 1st page of coinmarket cap.

not gonna happen bro sorry. you missed the opportunity of a lifetime

>>20384818
No it doesn't imply a top 5 spot are you retarded?

Starting supply is less that 10m tokens. After 1 year it will reach 120m tokens.

It won't even be a billion dollar project if it's $5 in a year time.

>>20384824
Second page with 3% circulating supply why this is hard for people to get?

>>20384818
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche-iou

Been here for hours. Still have not gotten in.

>>20384866
You're delusional sorry man. If you think a project can get away by calculating price based only on circulating supply, The price of the coin is judged according to its total supply, It should be obvious for your by now, Look at the market yourself and tell me this isn't right, The project who's the most similar to AVA economic and circulating supply and ranked the highest is HBAR, which was outside of the top 100 for months before fucking google partnered with them.

And get a correction, AVA supply is even smaller than HBAR was on the start. And hashgraph was arguably far more hyped project.

>>20384874
Are you retarded? This shit have 100% fake volume and the team themselves said this, It's been "traded" was more than a week before the ICO even occurred, Why would people but there if they could just get into the ICO? The team already told cmc to delist that scam and they did, Coingecko is late.

When will we receive our tokens?

>>20385038
dont worry you'll be in. dont need to send more than 100,000 gas limit and 75 gwei

>>20384874
People already sell it at 1.2$ OTC btw, Which tend to be overpriced, Buy offers are 0.5-0.85$.

>>20385054
>>20384871

Your arguments are valid but you are fogetting how small the market cap of the coin is, even with 120m coins trading after 1 year.

at $5 it is a 600m USD market cap coin. It's nothing lol.

>>20385054
>hashgraph was arguably far more hyped project.
hasgraph is centralized garbage. ava is a real threat to eth.

>>20385303
I'm aware, But hashgraph hype was insane. AVA still have a long way to go expend themselves and even prove that what they built is good, so far they've nothing but speculations

>not buying BZRX

>>20385351
Hashgraph is different.

The Market cap given to this coin at ICO price assuming all 360m coins are on the market is 180m.

In the first year the circulating supply will be 120m. That means we are getting in at a 60m market cap coin.

It doesn't matter that this coin has massive inflation. All ICO buyers got in a 10x below the price it will be stable at lol.

>>20384757
$0.5 mcap: 180M, lower than ALGO, HBAR
$0.85 mcap: 306M, way lower than EOS, Tezos, NEO, Cosmos

You won't see $0.3, even if everyone bought Option B over Option A1 there will only be 12M token at launch (10M mcap @0.85). With that demand and unlocking schedule it has to be a complete failure to dump below ico price.

>>20384874
I don't trust it, it's sketchy at best

>>20385510
this is wrong. It is half of those market caps. Seeing as how the supply will only be 120m after 1 year.

0.5 mcap: 60m

>>20385420
Fact is it's going for barely more 30-50% rightnow in OTC from option B sell price (0.85$), Buy offers are below 0.85$ for unlocked tokens.

Brainlet here.
Just found out about this and immediately got in. How much should i buy?

the only reason i bought the ico is because i know it wont dump below 0.3

>>20385720
it's 100$ minimum. buy the quantity you're ok losing anyway.

>>20385566
you're right, I priced them in for simplicity, this is looking better than I thought then.
And there's also the staking reward rate which is still an unknown

What is the price going to be when this hits exchanges?

>>20385818
my guess is it will shoot straight up, compound style.

I'M FCKING INNNNNNNNN LES GO

>>20383143
HOLY FUCK

futures exchanges were reporting 5/6$ and ico price is 0.50 normies on reddit will soon fomo and we will all moon

>>20385855
>>20385818
Look at OTC price, People selling at 0.9-1.2$ unlocked with escrow. I believe that if AVA will pump it won't be on listing but a short time after. Compound style like you said.

>>20385919
It's a scam. see>>20385095

Does anybody know when tokens will be sent?

>>20386017
Mainnet 2021

>>20378559
This is false. Seed vesting hasn't started.
Stop larping. If youre affiliated with FMs and VCs, then you should already know which exchange invested in the coin.

You're just a pathetic individual that shitposts on 4chan who accidentally found LINK and invested your tendies into it.

Luck runs out eventually tho.
Good luck out there.

>>20386294
Tell me more anon, which exchanges invested in the coin?

>>20384329
>kek at the retards who put more than 100,000 gas limit
It gets refunded anyway, what's the problem?

>>20384818
>that's absurd number, You're aware that this imply top 5 spot right off the bat
Yes

whales are here...

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x748cadeb033845d783d623e508d7c3880a1e400f4065ec3ae553d8b3f773b78f

10k ETH invested.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x0af543143b97a3736bf37b12fa7d34367c338730aa1fd37b5efc949f770aeebf

>>20386688
FOK THIS ONE IS COMING FROM ETHEREUM GENESIS BLOCK - https://etherscan.io/tx/0xa2fa2f6e0b7a510480bad2700672a3fc555fb4b862fe8e7f76ddbdd4e5f2605e

>>20378228
Genisis blocks are coming in.

>>20386806
Vitalik has no choice but buying the eth killer

>>20378228
when uniswap?

>put in amount
>click "I agree"
>nothing happens

epic

Why aren't the registrations reopened? Let me in reee

>>20387788
Sold out

>>20387806
I just heard about this last week, kinda sad, it looked interesting desu

>>20387806
>>20387868
sorry anons you'll have to fomo on the exchanges. imagine buying ETH at 1$ again

>>20387788
Registrations were open. It just fucking sold out in 4 fucking hours.

>>20388215

Would have been faster but they only started accepting the 2.5M checks at 2PM. Probably would have run out in 1 hour.

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1229908044714086401

>>20388215
My shit has been processing for 3.5 hours.

After they closed registration lst week for the DDOS no less.

Fucking clown show

>>20388458
Clown show? This broke records. Levels untouched in 2+ years. It was amazing, and now its making me fucking rich

>>20385420
Its AVAX now bro. AVA is that Travala pajeet motel coin

>>20389328
>download (2).jpg
are you starting the memetic warfare? I am.

Finally I can stop fudding and start shilling to my heart's content

>>20389524
Already knee deep in Gimp fran

how the fuck do i buy this shit

were gonna moon

ethereum genesis account has funded avax

>>20389846
https://info.avax.network/
too late anon, ico is sold out. you'll buy when it gets listed on exchanges
>>20389897
at some point vitalik will say fuck eth2, let's all migrate to avax

>>20390137
>at some point vitalik will say fuck eth2, let's all migrate to avax
at some point vitalik will launch a second ico and raise a billion within 5 minutes

>>20382307
KEK. Fantom can't even release their DeFi suite on time. It never even began for Fantjeets.

It didn't sold out for more than an hour. Hype isn't that big. Most likely the next ONE.

>>20391030
It's mostly pajeet shillers who want a quick flip. It doesn't sale that highly in p2p, Close to ICO price which means it'll likely to open even lower.

eth community needs to adopt loopring/zksnarks now.

Eth is about to get wrecked. There are so many platforms with less fees and faster transactions.