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>>20368973
millions of people now have asymptomatic COVID cases. It was a nothingburger from the start, and now it's finally over.

>>20368973
I mean Corona cases near All Time High clearly

>>20368973
NYC got hit hard not like anything so far. And they have better tactics like shipping sick people out of county or state . And the median age of infected has gone down.

>>20369003
well winter isnt gonna hold off for very long. people will be catching all kinds of nasty from the normal immune suppression that comes with less sun. forced vaccines? No. rising death attributed to sars ? ya thats gonna catch some

>>20368973
Several states have had backlogs of tests that were yet to be processed and this was never that lethal to begin with. We're fucked when a real pandemic hits.

>>20368973
Lol you wish dude. Its a lagging indicator. Do NOT get this shit. All the tough kids on here saying its a flu and they arent 80 will regret it. Its a matter of how many people they infect before they realize though

>>20369095
So are you saying...two more weeks?

I got tested after having almost all of the symptoms. However my doctor managed to mess up my sample and whatever lab they used had to throw it out since they couldn't test it. I was basically told to just act like I had it and never got a re-test for it. I'm sure there's a lot of that along with the high false negative rates going on.

>>20369095
I still think its bullshit.

There's a lab in Florida that got caught lying about their tests saying 100% of their samples were positive. Turns out it was closer to 10%.

>>20369095
how can people still believe this

>>20369174
You dont know how bad this is

>>20369130
>>20369174
dude italy had 50% more deaths than usual in march/april. How is this shit not real lmao

>>20368973
It's burned through elder care facilities. Once that happens the low hanging fruit is gone and actually dying of it is an anomaly. Also, many of the symptomatic cases will be healthcare workers exposed to the high viral loads of care home residents and they, in turn, will pass it to family and friends who will have lower, less significant initial viral loads.

COVID-19 is out of low hanging fruit and will be unable to gain further traction unless we do something drastic like get it into some kids and start up the schools. That'll get it back into the homes by merging classrooms into single families and hopefully infect some grandparents so that the hysteria can ramp back up for "wave 2".

Shit is gay. It's just SARS 1 without airport shutdowns and some disinformation to fan the flames. It's nothing we can't actually manage and the reaction is overblown.

>>20369282
Youre not considering: spread is on par with zika (extremely contagious), mutation rates are rapid especially in populations around bats, and people can get reinfected if the virus changes or maybe even from the same one as we dont fully understand this one yet or why peoples lungs fill up and their brains waviness straightens out and strokes form

>>20369282
What scare me are the lasting health problems. No one knows what this shit is doing with your body. Maybe it increases your chance for lung cancer by 400%, maybe it makes your future children retarded, we don't know.

But what we know is that many people report they didn't recover their smell and taste senses months after having covid. There were cases of brain inflammations. Healthy, 40year old people report that they can't work anymore because they feel exhausted very fast, months after having a mild covid infection. It wouldn't surprise me if it is much worse than just a flu that can kill old people

I don't want to this chinese bio weapon in my body


This virus is too new and unresearched to take it lightly, I rather have an overblown reaction than a non reaction (florida)

I think people don't realize the reason cities were so fucked wasn't the virus itself but the sheer volume of viral load. It's why it's not spreading well elsewhere. People in places like NYC are in such close proximity they're being exposed to billions of more viruses a day vs a single exposure a suburb or rural person might get.

Anon please tell me you read this

https://m.imgur.com/a/nIVZkRh

>>20369550
>dump your stocks!
>stock market has already recovered

>>20369582
Looks like a double top on a dead cat bounce to me

>>20369213
Because Italians have literal 3rd world Healthcare despite what (((CNN))) tells you. Also they were all like 90 years old

>>20369519
>bio attack china with swine flu
>bio attack with sars/mers
>start hong Kong protests
>sell weapons to Taiwan and surrounding sea countries
>kidnap hauwei
>start tariffs
>label china currency manipulator and start all kinds of YouTube/social media attacks
>Canada, Australia, USA, U.K. gang up in china
>china round houses Anglo empire to the throat with covid
>>Anglo fags: ch-ch-china how could you???? Reeeeeee!!!!

Bullshit. Northern Italy has one of the best healthcare systems. I am from austria and have been in an italian hospital once, it was better than ours in Salzburg. But yes they have a fucking old populationt, I give you that

>>20369519
Yeah, thats a big concern. Despite never having a positive test because of the above reasons, my doctor was pretty confidant I had it based on symptoms. I've had consistent chest pain/coughing for over two months now along with my sense of smell being severely degraded to the point where even the smell of formaldehyde doesn't bother me.

>>20369708
Anglo cunts shoulda just stayed happy with their 1000$ iPhones made with 1$/hr Chinese slaves but it wasn’t enough for Anglo cunts.

I caught corona back in march and almost died. Eversince my recovery, my breathing hasnt been as good.

By the way to anyone that ever gets it, take cold medicine, drink a ton of water and mainly consume home-made smoothies with "superfood" such as kale, spinach, and basically any fruit/vegetables thats loaded with vitamins

>>20369174
because people have friends and know people who have had it or died from it you fucking incel

>>20369800
I know people who had it and nothing happened.

>>20369610
You're a brainwashed mouth breather. It's a real virus just like any other shit people get sick with. Zero reason to shut everything down and implement this tryanny when total case numbers are still within the upper bounds of the seasonal flu

>average covid death is 86
>average age of death in general is 71
>less than 0.5% death rate
>deaths skewed towards the old, obese, and immunocompromised
>not realizing the media is drumming up the virus impact
>not understanding quantities and magnitudes
>not understanding the size of the virus vs the size of the pores in the masks
>not seeing the summation of contradictions and bull shit instructions and rules being implemented
>not seeing all of the covid19 inspired advertisements and products
>not seeing the erosion of the biggest threat to established wealth in power, small business owners
>not seeing unprecedented consolidation of money and power into big business
>not seeing the unprecedented volume in media coverage relative to the lethality of the virus
>not realizing it's all being gameified to enrich those in the deep state club house and get trump OOO

If you just thought about some of the plot holes in this pandemic story you would realize how retarded the whole thing is. No one is saying it's not a real virus you fucking retard. This virus just ain't shit, most people don't even realize they have it, and the vast vast majority of healthy people claim they have been affected by way more severe colds/flus in the past and recover without hospitalization on long term impacts.

>>20369844
>ignores the lasting health problems
>ignores over 500k deaths
>thinks countries like US, Germany and UK would fuck up their economy so they can sell "covid19 inspired products"
>thinks it's all about trump

>>20370018
>ignores that 500k deaths is still within upper bounds for seasonal flu

>>20369844
>mask pores....
You do realize overlapping mesh can block particulates larger than the diameter of the pores of a single layer of said mesh.

For your child’s brain.

1. Stretch your right hand out in front of you and spread your fingers as wide as possible

2. Notice the space between your fingers

3. Overlap with your left hand, fingers spread such that your left hand covers the gap between your fingers on your right hand

>>20370556
Hey retard you know that the virus is still 5x smaller than the smallest particulates N95's are capable of filtering
Literally no one understands dimensions. If you scaled up the virus size wearing a mask is like building a mosquito net out of chicken wire

>>20369727
>even the smell of formaldehyde doesn't bother me
they started embalming you already?

>>20370623
Are you stupid or just dumb? Do you legit not understand that it does not work like a filter? I am seriously asking.

>>2036900
Exactly, the virus was never that lethal to begin with we’ve all been bamboozled

>>20370623
>>20370714
He might be both

>>20370623
Virus size doesn't matter, aerosol size does

>>20370714
>>20370932
>>20370997
Can you niggers read?
>same source as brainlet cartoon

>>20368973
post this on re.ddit so the normies have a fucking heart attack, they're STILL acting like this is the black plague

>>20370018
If they stop talking about this after the election will you admit it had something to do with trump?

>>20369844
Imagine being this retarded.

>>20371405
Imagine being this brainwashed
I'll keep going outside and living my life and enjoying based events like pic related

>>20371276
A. Obviously one should have an n95
B. Remember when we taught you by holding out your fingees?

Now imagine someone else is doing it too. Now you both have a cloth mask. Probably a lot better at limiting aerosol transfer and viral load, no?

Good brainlet

>>20368973
>>20369003

More testing, better treatment, benign viral mutation, herd immunity building, etc.
A whole bunch of reasons to explain why cases are up but deaths just keep going down.

Btw, remember that hydrochloroquine thing that Trump suggested and the entire media crucified him for?

>>20369095
>lagging indicator
Buddy, the rona infection rate has been going up for a whole month in the US, yet the death rate just keeps dropping.

>>20369519
Covid gives you pneumonia.
People get really bad pneumonia and make full recoveries just fine.

>>20371379
They dropped the whole corona thing instantly as soon as race riots started happening.

>>20371644
>the committee is concerned that their use would give users a false sense of protection...
I knew you couldn't read

>>20369678
So ignorant LMAO
US healthcare is so much worse

>>20372128
>... that will encourage risk taking”

It clearly states it’s better than nothing. The risk is in becoming overly comfortable or feeling unduly secure and not taking other precautions such as washing hands as a result

>>20372197
>given the lack of data either supporting or refuting the effectiveness of cloth masks...
you actually can't read holy shit

There's a lag from cases to deaths. We haven't seen the full results of the problem in Florida yet

>>20372235
>the committee hesitated to discourage their use

>>20368973
Nobody gives a fuck about the flu

People aren’t noticing they are dieing as they are staring at the link chart

>>20370018
what are exomes?
what are they spraying in the sky more than ever?
what are they releasing from the bunkers on the sea more than ever?
what are they finding in peoples blood worldwide more then ever?
how does any of this result in people getting sicker then usual, seasonal or not?

>>20368973
They've just significantly increased testing is all. It's NEVER been all that serious, but most people who get it either have very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all.

Yet everyone is ignoring this fact and freaking the fuck out about "muh second wave" when it's complete statistical fuckery.

>>20372276
You're trying so hard to get this paper to bend to your belief? Why? The fact is that it's all bullshit. The evidence was inconclusive. They purposefully gave a vapid ambiguous half baked answer to satiate mouth breathing retards like yourself that are desperately looking for confirmation bias. YOURE BRAINWASHED

>>20368973
>low deaths
>not mentioning Florida just announce they had their highest death in one day
>not mentioning California just announced their highest death in one day

>>20372438
this
People don't understand numbers. The biggest media jew trick number right now is that case numbers in red states aka pro trump which are FL, AZ, and TX and the media is like
HOLY FUCK THE CASE NUMBERS ARE UP 400-100%
When in reality the death rate keep dropping and people who are still like "come on guys srsly we are literally in a pandemic rn" can't wrap their heads around how the virus is quantitatively not shit
Retards see some crazy % like 1000 and go "gee wizz that sure is a lot"
Also note gov of CA Gavin Newsom closed all winery's in the state but kept his one open
This whole thing is laughable

>>20372414
>what are exomes?
What is it that you think the exome is?
t. molecular biologist

>>20372517
exactly. Imagine I see a cockroach in my house one day. So I decide to investigate every nook and cranny to check for more cockroaches the next day. Because I've specifically looking for them now, I end up finding 30. These retards think that means the number of cockroaches in my house jumped from 1 to 30 in a day, when actually it really hasn't changed at all, and the reporting has gone up.

If the media/gov't/etc were serious about this, they'd highlight the fact that increased number of cases + decreased number of deaths is a GOOD THING because it shows that the virus is not as deadly as first thought. But everyone is completely silent on this blatant fact.

>>20372391
I have a higher chance of dying before link moons. They is how my life works. But I will thank god to be away from this world.

>>20372561
I assume that the cases back in march must have been higher than they are today based on the deaths. They just didn't have the capacity to test people. Many people I knew were sick with terrible coughs back in feb. It's wise to use caution with a new virus that's barely studied. Americans are stubborn and stupid.

>>20372650
Caution was a good idea back in february and early march back when we didn't have the full picture. But from that point onward, the data has been there to show that it really is a nothingburger. But at that point, mass hysteria had already kicked in and most people wouldn't hear it. Not to mention governments worldwide had already enacted shutdowns that would accidentally the whole economy, and they needed to save face by pretending the virus was super deadly still, because otherwise they'd need to admit that they put everyone out of a job over nothing.

>media claim it's a respiratory virus that's highly contagious
>gyms closed inhibiting people staying healthy
>recreational pot shops open
>liquor stores open
>literally encouraging smoking and drinking and discouraging exercise
>not recommending vitamin D supplements and telling everyone to stay inside
>people get less sunlight than they need and get immune system drop
They don't care about your health it's all been politicized to accomplish an agenda.
China is getting BTFO by trump they went him out so they can ramp back up IP theft and keep stealing our shit

>>20372246
>We haven't seen the full results of the problem in Florida yet
there be something fucky with the numbers in general tho. What you should see is (approx) Pic Related, however..

>>20372801
<..what they are (claiming) is this.
There is nothing to explain this gap.
There be no relation here at all, none.

>>20368973
100 miIIion dead eoy

>>20372816
>doesn’t know the difference between total (cumulative) vs daily


Holy shit, you’re a retard. And I mean this in the worst way because I’ve seen some retardation and normally don’t give af because if you’re stupid it doesn’t affect me, but damn this is Beyond next level stupid and goes into next dimensional negative brain nazi retardation. Do the universe a favor and kys and I mean this in the most unkind way.

>>20369002
>now it's finally over
it's never going to be over as immunity is fleeting like with other coronaviruses. you will get it again and again until it kills you.

>>20373394
cumulative was chosen as its a different color, as overlayed chart. It ts otherwise THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TREND as the daily, as per OP. So, when your finished your verbal diarrhea attack here, compare daily and deaths. Its the same fucking thing. Or, now you'll be claiming, there be no relation between daily increase and total, I assume?
>fucking windowlicker

>>20370623
It travels on saliva droplets you humongous retard

>People not realizing that Corona was found in Barcelona's residual waters dating from march 2019.
Deaths aren't "low" because of a benign mutation or better treatment (which of course reduces the death chance slightly), people simply die leass because it's summer and the virus is not dangerous with high temperatures. Right now its just multiplicating and the problems will start in late winter.
Btw you guys realize that even though this virus doesn't kill a lot of young people, it stills damage their organs permanently, meaning that the next time they catch it their chances to die are much higher?
The first wave is nothing compared to the second one, let's hope there's a good way to deal with it during winter

>>20373586
>Btw you guys realize that even though this virus doesn't kill a lot of young people, it stills damage their organs permanently
Not really.
Lungs are very good at healing, severe pneumonia victims make full recoveries

>>20368973
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>>20368973
Probably down to increased testing

>>20368973
several things
a) we have a better understanding of the situation now, meaning there were more cases that we didn't caught
b) younger people having rona
c) better treatments
d) who the fuck knows. read about heterogeneity immunity

>>20373647
I read a lot of times that this virus causes permanent damages (obviously if it's a bad case). I am 24 yo from Spain and caught a fucking virus in January that wasn't even identified, and required a one day hospitalisation (lol) 6 months later I still cough a lot and have no energy

>>20369519
viral pneumonias are fucked up. we know this since ever. my old man had a viral pneumonia 30 years ago and still have some issues because of it. Good thing is most people who have corona don't develop pneumonia

>>20373780
>I read a lot of times that this virus causes permanent damages
If you get severe pneumonia or something, there's always a possibility of some lasting damage.
But there's nothing inherently worse about corona than any other cause of pneumonia.

>>20370623
hey idiot, you are the one who don't understand dimensions. We don't spread ONE particulate at a time, you understand this right?
Also there's something called viral load

>>20369006
this plus democrats like Cuomo got all the old people infected in retirement homes so there were massive initial wave of deaths taht skewed the initial death rate statistics

this is sweden btw, the staples for corona. What sweden does, the rest of the world will follow.
The reason I say this is because sweden success (or unsuccess) is based on a normality vs suppression through lockdowns, which mitigate the spread but will never stop it and sooner or later he shows up again (ny is also an example but just because they completely fucked up the response early on and the lockdown was irrelevant)

Most people who died on sweden are old people and immigrants who didn't complied with social distancing (which works very well, again, viral load check it).

The 7 day moving average doesn't lie. It's 100% working

>>20369132
democrats everywhere are trying their best to spread misinformation and panic. lots of leftwing types in healthcare. any leftist anti-Trumper in any position to create chaos is doing so right now, whether unelected literal nobody local county workers or head admins of hospitals

>>20368973
They're faking case numbers to try to shut down the US economy so that it hurts Trump's re-election. It's harder to fake deaths, but I'm sure they'll do something about that as well over the coming months.

>>20373920
based

The media was piling so much shit on Sweden for having a less strict lockdown and thus a higher short-term death rate.
Meanwhile Belgium had a severely strict lockdown, and it has the absolute highest per-capita corona death rate in the entire world.

>>20369519
well maybe you should think about why you have to deal with this risk? and why china was always allowed to fuck around with bioweapons and do whatever the fuck they want until Trump came to power. obama admin was literally funding the wuhan bioresearch lab this virus came from with federal grants. you cant make this shit up. chinks are just walking all over the west and laughing about it and yet there are literal retards among us right now contemplating voting for Biden, the guy who literally cucked for china and his son took millions in bribes from china. ask yourself, why are the democrats so pro china? why dont they ever call them out on their humanitarian rights abuses or racism? lots of money flows from china to leftwing coffers

>>20373920
You can't compare Sweden's situation to Spain's at the start of the pandemic, or current USA, Brazil and India.
Sweden had very low cases to begin with, but some countries have incredible amounts of new cases. If you have 20.000 active cases at the peak during normality maybe you manage to not lockdown people, but with more than 1 milion in some countries...

>>20368973
virus evolves to be less lethal
> why?
evolution.
+ weak people already dead, less ill ones to kill
+ more testing = more cases = plummeting deathrate

>>20369789
>take cold medicine

what cold medicine? im pretty sure i caught it back in january, i got over it with zinc tablets, hot herbal tea every hour or so, mucinex, and steamy showers. it was not fun being short of breath and out of air from just walking. never got tested because it was before the big panic wave but im pretty sure it was corona, the worst of it lasted like 2 weeks, after that i was mostly fine but just had sporadic bits of deep chest hacking white-green chunks for another week or so.

i will never wear the mask

>>20368973
>Corona cases near All Time Low
>Corona deaths near All Time Low
Not if no-mask faggots have anything to say about it

It finished off all the sickly people with extreme immune response that it was going to finish off. They also discovered a cheap drug which was clinically proven to reduce mortality by a third for people on ventilators (was found to work in the UK, not sure if they're using it in burger land now). Also more tests skewing things.

>>20370623
the virus doesnt float by itself its attached to dust or moisture droplets. n95s work. its the other cuck masks people wear made of cloth or the cheap paper surgical masks that dont do shit, because those dont create an airtight seal.

>stop wearing masks you selfish bigot, they dont work!
>wear the mask you white supremacist, or else we will fine you!

>we have to shut down everything and stay inside until the virus goes away!
>nooo Trump cant have campaign rallies they are spreading the virus!
>lets go out and stand shoulder to shoulder in crowds of hundreds or thousands and spraypaint "kill whitey" on national monuments, that is ok the medical experts approved it

>>20373965
this. and yes they have been faking deaths, hospitals put down "covid19" for any cause of death if the person tests postive for it. and in some cases they jsut mark it dodwn even without testing

>>20369213
Italians are old as fuck

>>20368973
its literally just more testing being done
the virus was a nothingburger from the beginning
imagine falling for this obvious hoax

>>20368973
>>20374185
also a lot of these positive test results are fake
theres like 33 labs in florida that just got busted giving false data with 100% positive rates on all their tests
other states like arizona too
its a hoax and youre low IQ if you ever bought into it
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results

>>20374021
Idk why you are saying this, data disagrees with that general view
sweden deaths per capita are still higher than usa, which means it has affected them more severely than the us
sweden cases per capita are also higher than...spain!

It's undeniable that
a) sweden has been one of the most affected countries in the world
b) things there are clearly slowing down

what you are saying, that there has been some crazy hotspots, relates much more with the capacity (or lack of thereof) of the health systems, something sweden has always been able to support.

Yes, they don't have the same issues ny or madrid had (which is an high density problem, which helps the virus to spread quicker to more people in a short time) but at a macro scale they are an example that the virus doesn't grow exponentially like many expected (and we still don't know why). Don't assume from my post im against lockdowns, im clearly not, they are effective and a great way to help the population to prepare, but both madrid and ny didn't solved their issues because of lockdowns, they were worthless. The spread was there and took its course.

>>20372545
*Exosomes. That was my fault, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTn5H_wlwAc

>>20368973
Why does this look like most of my websites traffic with more on week days... And dips on weekends?

>>20370623
> NA education
> If they didn't taught me it in 6th grade, it doesn't exist
Go get your drain-cleaner IV to protect yourself from the viral demoncrat hoax, you'll feel better.

big crash coming soon, hong kong just got taken out of our economy equation. all those chink imports retailers depend on hahahahhahah

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-the-presidents-executive-order-on-hong-kong-no-1844384268

>Section 1. It shall be the policy of the United States to suspend or eliminate different and preferential treatment for Hong Kong to the extent permitted by law and in the national security, foreign policy, and economic interest of the United States.

if it says "made in hong kong" its going stinky!

>>20374101
haha yeah, it's the people refusing to wear masks that are the problem haha
Darn republicans and darn Fox News haha
ha

>>20370623
>is still 5x smaller than the smallest particulates N95's are capable of filtering
You retarded monkey shit for brains, the hardest particles to filter by the N95 masks are not the smallest, but the ones in the middle size wise.
The smaller/bigger you go from the middle ground, which the mask is rated for anyway, the easier it is to filter a particle, I know it's not very intuitive for a mongoloid such as yourself, but maybe do 5 minutes of research before opening your mouth so you don't prove you're retarded in only one post.

>>20373780
Should have been vaping bro. They've known since the 40s that aerosolized propylene glycol is a disinfectant. I too had a mystery crazy disease in January but I'm long since over it with zero lingering effects. Better than ever really.

>>20369519
>He actually believes the "long-term damage" meme
Never gonna make it

>>20369519
how many shekels are you fucks being gifted for all these posts?

honest question, i could always use my linkies.
who do i get in contact with?

>>20374973
YES anon, absolutely everyone who doesn't agree with you is a paid shill. You got it all figured out, well done

>>20375191
take me to your leader. I DESIRE MOAR LINKIES.

>>20375191
also, watch The HighWire with Del Bigtree or something.

>>20375191
the thing that most people don't get still is covid19 is not a pulmonary disease.

it's a sickness of the vein linings and kills with blood clots. since the lung is a giant sponge protecting your brain it gets obstructions which causes suffocating feeling when covid is active. but it does not obstruct the airways or anything.

which is why treating it with invasive over pressure respirators is mostly a death sentence.

and which is why so many unexplainable deaths involve healthy people. it can literally cause stroke and heart attack drop you on the street with no real symptoms. it can permanently damage your brains and kill neural pathways linked to sense of taste and smell permanently.

shit is scary af yet the world is full of loud idiots who pretend it's just a cold.

>>20368973
Ain't it weird how people die less on the weekend?

>>20368973
>is it becoming less lethal, or something else?

Same as spanish flu it disappeared as the less dangerous versions kept spreading while the dangerous ones killed the host.

It was a nothingburger but politicians can't admit they destroyed the economy for nothing.

>>20375563
>they destroyed the economy
that's bollocks btw the global economy was perfectly due for a big recession sans covid anyhow. shit was going to be bad and will be worse no matter the virus. the underlying reasons have been brewing and festering since 2008.