/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20326219
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20326219
3-4 times per week, never more than once in a day, take lion's mane daily

you're welcome

2

>>20326219
nah man you are jut gay simple as that
nobody is turning you

>>20326260
>lion's mane
I dunno sounds kinda gay

>>20326219
there is nothing wrong with sucking delicious cocks, it is the manliest thing you can do

>>20326219
you're actually just a repressed homosexual, nothing to be embarrassed about

I don't jerk off for an entire month sometimes and I never think about gay shit

>>20326219
do you think its hot until you have jerked off and it becomes gross instantly?

>>20326219
0.1
You're just a degenerate. If you watch porn cut that out. Eat healthy, work out, go to bed on time, get some sun. Your test levels will thank you and you'll get boners at the thoughts of taking women.

>>20326219
Sounds like you're just a faggot that's been suppressing his gayness with porn.
No one else I've talked to has suddenly started having gay urges while on nofap.

>>20326219
not wasting your essence/seed will make all your issues surface so you have to deal with it. Cooming is an escape and keeps you blind. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. You clearly have very degenerate lust issues/demons. if you do not believe in God and have other degenerate behaviour you are probably suffering because reprobate mind. Basically since you have completely closed of to God and Jesus / Buddha / whatever prophet. God has cursed you and you will keep adding on more and more degenerate behaviour and destroy yourself and your environment.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reprobation

>>20326219
I am a doctor and my diagnosis is: you're a homosexual

>>20326219
you're a fag

>>20326219
man you gay

MODS

>>20326219
no fap is unironically a psyop
I got PE once I did for a couple of weeks. had to painfully train myself to last longer than 10 seconds again

>>20326219
Dont listen to these faggots calling you gay, OP. It is a well known fact that chronic porn abuse causes warping of sexual tastes. Truth is it is unnatural to watch other people fuck, in any form. Any porn (except maybe solo female) is basically digital cuckoldy and leads to homosexual neurochemistry. You gotta quit porn, brother. Fap once or twice per week using just your imagination.

>>20326324
maybe they just dont want to tell you that
>hey man, whenever i dont fap i think about getting fucked by you, hahaha isnt that funny

>>20326309
yes anon I get that feel its a weird brain we have.

>>20326219
/bizpol/

>>20326219
>start to think about getting fucked in the ass and sucking dick
that's because deep down inside you are a girl

>>20326219
OP if you're not trolling:
try to go longer without masturbation and pornographic imagery (this includes /biz/ thotposting). Spend more time socializing with other people, men and women alike. It doesn't matter what kind of sexual thoughts you have, the point is that you develop a less sexually stimulating baseline for your day to day life. When you finally even out, your body and mind will tell you what you want. If it happens to be cock, and that makes you unhappy, you don't have to act on the urge if you don't want.

>>20326761
I won't let a fetish control my life. That's true degeneracy

>>20326219
Just be gay.
I like sucking dick sometimes.
It's degenerate, but I accept it as a product of living in a degenerate society.

>>20326927
>i know my lifestyle is degenerate but that's ok because society started it or something
why not try to break the cycle of faggotry?

>>20326260
Uhh I like to do it 2x in a row in 1 day..
>>20326278
Wtf is lions Maine
>>20326309
Yes

>>20326871
your soul is female. i can sense it from your words

>>20326260
Lion's mane only improves your mental state if you are in decline. It's a mild restorative.

>>20326219
That you in the picture OP? You can suck my cock and I'll stuff you no homo

>>20326260
Doesn’t lion’s mane kill libido ?

A lot of the mushrooms have a slight inhibitory effect on an enzyme called 5 alpha reductase (5-AR). This enzyme is responsible for converting testosterone into DHT and most of the mushrooms are mild 5-AR inhibitors. Lion's mane is one of these mushrooms and could in theory cause a slight reduction in DHT in some individuals. This is inherent with all lion's mane products

>>20327183
Stop trying to drag others into your hell tranny

>>20326219
see i have the opposite problem. When I jerk off constantly, it takes more and more to get me going to the point where girls simply dont do it anymore. Only the idea of sucking a big cock or getting my ass railed will even come close to getting me off. Now, when my balls are full and I haven't wacked it in a while, pretty much anything that moves is enough to turn me on to the point where i could jizz to just the thought of it, including girls, so that is how I maintain the illusion of my heterosexuality, when deep down at the bottom of my depraved brain i am actually a faggot. Also I hold chainlink

>>20326219
This is a great post. I have always been submissive to alpha women. Crushes on strong girls in my school since I was 9.

Turning gay is happening to me as well. I escalated from femdom porn to strapon to Tran to finally —- men forcing straight men to perform gay acts.

It took awhile but now I actually can appreciate the men in the video, pure pavlovian conditioning.

I have tried to nofap to fix it but after a few weeks my brain thinks of the same things and go away after.

You can get fucked in the ass without it being gay anon. It’s called a strapon

>>20326260
Where do you get your lions mane mushrooms?

>>20326219
I stopped watching porn and fapping one year ago and i dont miss it but i also don't feel different.

>>20326219
dominate gay men are the manliest of all men

>>20326219
every time I see this picture I think its my ex girlfriend due to facial similarities

Either way I have shit ton of nudes of a girl that looks like this

Haha, wouldn't it be really funny to get on your knees for a really hung guy, feel his fat, potent cock stiffen up in your mouth, then suck and stroke it like a submissive little slut until you feel it spasm and pump hot cum down your throat?

Lol, I'm not gay though haha.

>>20327978
You need dual extract, water only won’t work.

>>20326761
>softer skin
you will always have male skin
>cute curvy body
you will always have a male skeleton
>improved mental state
have you ever *talked* to a girl?
>tiddies
yeah, some soi gynotits from estrogen + shitty implants sure sound great
>improved self confidence
everyone looking at you and thinking about how much of a freak pervert you are will sure boost your self confidence
>decimate fapping addiction
basing your entire lifestyle around a fetish is the ultimate fapping addiction.
>ability to wear adorable clothes
yeah, you aren't going to look like a kawaii anime girl in your trap clothes you're going to look like a goblin coomer freak
>ditch angry mannerisms
have you seen how spiteful and bitter trannies are?
>cute more feminine facial features
not gonna happen
>thicker longer lasting shinier hair
what the fuck are you talking about?

read the image. that is you.

>>20326219
same but I can;t stop thinking about anally raping cute traps

>>20328437
Based

>>20328418
>seriousposting to a meme

>>20326219
The Power of Now

Control your thoughts you peasant. Lol, you probably won't listen this advice - keep THINKING THINKoomerER.

>>20328418
>refutes all your arguments

I can't stop thinking about getting fucked in the ass. A dildo feels really great and I just want to be treated like a slut. I'm on a no fap kick though trying to be done with it. I'll never be free though

>>20326219
Yeah? I got more and more obsessed with bondage/femdom/foot fetish stuff the longer I go without jacking off.
As soon as I jack off, it's like Anakin after he killed Mace Windu and he goes, "What have I done???"

>>20326761
Are you fucking kidding me

>>20326219
U might be gay, the opposite happens to me, when I nofap I get so horny for ass, titties, and pussy that I have to jerk off in public restrooms to contain my erections

>>20329537
Yes

I havent jerked off in 70 days. I havent gotten laid either. I get boners all the time now but I feel much better now comparee to when I was jerking off all the time. Also I have a date with this girl who wants to fuck me, shes going to get super soaked at this point.

It's the same with me but I'm a tranny

>>20326268
Yes
You are fag

the only way to escape this trick is to jerk off to gay porn. it sounds counter intuitive, but it's the only way to be released from their trickery - then you'll finally be free

>>20326219
yea it's crazy how horny you get on no fap.

You're supposed to channel it into getting laid. So only do it like 3-4 days before a date. Helps you with your game, you're less lethargic and all.

But yea it's a jewish trick past the 4th day it just turns you into a femboy who wants to crossdress. Only do it to get laid.

>>20330513
I can see ur nose

>>20326219
I don't remember the last time I fapped, and the only porn I've looked at in a very long time is crap posted on biz.

When I get horny, I just go to the local asian massage parlor or call up one of my regular escorts, and just get head or full service.

Can afford it anyway, I usually go 3-4x a week. When I'm extra horny, I just book one for like 3 hours, and do multiple pops in a single session.

>>20326219
Who is this cute boy

>>20326761
I now identify as a 22-yr old cat-eared girl

>>20330665
How do I find a massage parlor in mineceaft that will do this and isn't filled with glow in the darks ?

>>20327674
That won’t kill libido though. I’ve absolutely nuked my dht because I’m on dutasteride, and my libido hasn’t gone down at all.

>>20326422
>homosexual neurochemistry
Post-neonatal sexual differentiation, this is not going to be the case. Porn induced changes to sexuality involve generalized neurophysiological structures which further develop to 'object-desire regimes' due to reinforced neuroplastic change (developed historically in accordance to the influence allotted by non-generalized sexually differentiated structures, e.g. the hypothalamus, or in an open manner due to uncoupled environmental interactions (e.g. pornography)). Neurochemical changes related to porn mediated masturbation will certainly entail profound changes to the concentration and metabolism of hormone neurotransmitters and neurosteroids, but not the kind of neuro*physiological* differences present in homosexual-intersex brains. Furthermore, OP has not claimed to have consumed homosexual porn, but heterosexual porn with the emergence of homosexually related desire (which, notably, may not inherently be homosexual) following abstinence (precisely the opposite of what is reasoned wrt undoing porn-induced changes to sexuality). Your proposition would entail speculative differences in hormone mediated function of the greater limbic system related to the manner in which psycho-sexual dynamics of 'submission' (or masochism) are sublimated into desires (i.e. 'homosexual neurochemical state' to 'submissive desire'), but this is, in my view, a misconception of the causal development of these types of arousal both neurophysiologically and psychodynamically.

>>20326219
no, you're just a gay in denial

>>20326268
This.
>>20326219
You’re just gay.

>>20328027

cool, does she actually shave her gooch though?

>>20326761
Become that 41% tranny.

>>20331216
lot of words saying op is a fag

Are you jerking off to this guy?

Why do mods leave these threads up

>>20331216
heterosexual porn is still gay because it has penises. At the very least, it is cuck.

>>20327674

Not true, most people who took pharmaceutical 5-AR inhibitors have zero side effects. The studies show its anywhere between 2-5% of men who get side effects.

>>20326219

This is what happens when you buy chainlink.

>>20326324
He is right, I get what he's saying exactly. Its like you get so desperate for gratification of some form you consider gay thoughts.

I have to fap daily in moderation, nofap literally makes me depressed

>>20327674
Damn taking this instead of finasteride

>>20330899
Everyone's different anon. some people might notice the lack of DHT in their libido, it is a very common side effect of fin and dutasteride

>>20329253
not gay but I'd 100% suck that and get all its SEED in my mouth and then be anally raped

>>20331776

For most men, DHT does not appear to play a role in libido.

Sexual side effects occur in a statistically significant amount of men (2-5%). However, I wouldn't call these side effects "very common" from a practical standpoint.

Misleading media sensationalism destroyed the general publics view of these drugs years ago.

>>20331434
Jannies have the day off

>>20331776

For most men, DHT does not appear to play a role in libido.

For finasteride, sexual side effects occur in a statistically significant amount of men (2-5%). However, I wouldn't call these side effects "very common" from a practical standpoint.

Misleading media sensationalism destroyed the general publics view of these drugs years ago.

>>20326268

ok seriously though, I cant cum in my gf because I cant orgasm from vaginal sex. Only my hand gets me off, would refraining from fapping for a few weeks reset my sensitivity or did I just jack off way too hard when I was in my younger teenage years.

fpbp

>>20332074
fuck you for defending the pharmaceutical jew. some people have reported permanent effects from finasteride.

>>20333290
Fin is barely $10 a month. I hate big pharma as much as the next guy but certain drugs are necessary. By that logic fuck anyone that buys overpriced insulin to stay alive right?

>>20333402
most diseases like diabetes are the result of the modern fucked up world. We wouldnt need shit like insulin if raised with an optimal environment. I am disabled and unable to walk thanks to a pharmaceutical drug.

>>20326416
ya no shit. I can normally last like 15-20 minutes but if I don’t nut for a week I last like 3 pumps. besides that side effect I can’t concentrate cuz all I can think about pussy. no fap is literally just a coping mechanism for low test incels. they need something to blame their failure of a life on and since they don’t have any real excuses they blame it on cooming.

>>20332482
pathetic fucking loser. hope you lose your gf.

>>20331216
psh wheres your dubs, sciencefag

>>20327674
That's a good thing, brainlet.

>>20330540
It lowers horniness.

>>20332074
Rightfully so. Post finasteride ed is the worst

READ BAP

>>20326219
I masturbate at least 3 times a day. I’m not really making it, though. But if I don’t wank off, I get incredibly irritable.

>>20326328
Based.

>>20331216
Absolutely based

>>20334172
good goy

>>20333290
>>20333907

I'm not defending anyone, I am just being realistic unlike you lmao.

There have been very few reports of this ever. We are talking a couple thousand reports out of millions of men who have taken the drug over the past two decades. Only about 2-5% of men get side effects and basically all of them return to normal when they stop taking the drug.

Of course we can't be 100% certain that these men were permanently affected by the drug but we also can't say that their issues were caused by it either. Theres a million factors that can contribute to sexual side dysfunction.

The most likely conclusion here is there is a couple thousand men who were aware of potential sexual side effects and ended up misattributing the problem towards finasteride at some point.

Some of these men proceed to join online echo chambers and become keyboard warriors trying to spread fear and distrust. However, in their mind they probably think they are doing the right thing "warning" others about the drug. This isn't exclusive to finasteride either, this entire process happens all the time with other drugs.

There have been attempts to find scientific evidence of a permanent side effect syndrome but zero quality evidence has ever been produced. Most of the them consist of rat studies where they inject mice with 50 mg of finasteride daily and wonder why it causes changes.

>>20333290
>>20333907


I'm not defending anyone, I am just being realistic unlike you lmao.

Only about 2-5% of men get side effects and basically all of them return to normal when they stop taking the drug.

There have been very few reports of people claiming permanent side effects. We are talking a couple thousand reports out of millions of men who have taken the drug over the past two decades.

Of course we can't be 100% certain that these men were permanently affected by the drug but we also can't say that their issues were caused by it either. Theres a million factors that can contribute to sexual dysfunction.

The most likely conclusion here is there is a couple thousand men who were aware of potential sexual side effects and ended up misattributing the problem towards finasteride at some point.

Some of these men proceed to join online echo chambers and become keyboard warriors trying to spread fear and distrust. However, in their mind they probably think they are doing the right thing "warning" others about the drug. This isn't exclusive to finasteride either, this entire process happens all the time with other drugs.

There have been attempts to find scientific evidence of a permanent side effect syndrome but zero quality evidence has ever been produced. Most of the them consist of rat studies where they inject mice with 50 mg of finasteride daily and wonder why it causes changes.

>>20331216
Give it to me straight, professor. Can I ever heal my brain after abusing porn for over a decade? I started at age 11. I'm 27 now. I started with heterosexual porn and then progressed to homosexual porn once I felt I had exhausted the genres of heterosexual porn, i.e. they were not providing the same "shock factor" / dopamine kick as before. I have had crushes ok girls ever since I was 5 years old, and I am married to a woman now. I feel I have zero capacity to feel romantic feelings for men. I can only love women. But I feel as though I have developed some sort of weird splinter fetish related to masochism in the setting of homosexual content....It's really quite unsettling given that I am happily married and feel very fulfilled both sexually and romantically by my wife. If I quit porn cold turkey , can I undo the years of porn abuse? Will my brain have the neuroplasticity needed to revert to a more "normal" state, or did I screw myself over by consuming too much reinforcing content during a critical period of brain development during my teenage years?

>>20334460
this is exactly the kind of thing I was told by my doctor before my prescription med destroyed my body. same with many others I speak to.

i never took finasteride but knowing what i know now, id never trust these people again. https://www.drugwatch.com/beyond-side-effects/chicago-man-taking-propecia-biggest-regret-life/

>>20334549
quit porn. low dose psilocybin shrooms to help repair your brain.

>>20334460
I used to be like you. its easy to be flippant about the risk until something like this happens to you.

>>20326328
Why the fuck is it okay to have crossposting on biz? Take your shit back to /x/ or /pol/

>>20326328
this
i was very into vedenta and buddhism but ive realized its demonic as well

>>20329253
>smells like a man

>>20334581

Yes anon, let's take anecdotes and use them to guide our decision making.

The article you linked is exactly what I was talking about in my post regarding some of these men going on a crusade to try and "warn" others.

Of course these men deserve help but it in no way proves that finasteride is the true cause of their issues just because they say so. People misattribute problems in their life all the time. The couple thousand men in existence who are claiming a permanent side effect issue have no quality clinical data backing up their claims.

Wow, there sure is some interesting business & finance discussion going on in this thread.

>>20334620
Why not just lions mane? Why the fuck do I gotta trip

>>20334805
Ever heard of the entourage effect? Also, you won't trip if you micro-dose psilocybin shrooms, you fucking mangina. Take a micro-dose of shrooms, a normal dose of Lion's Mane, and a normal dose of niacin if you want to facilitate neurogenesis.

>>20326219
No you're gay
And OP is a faggot

>>20334858
where to buy mushrooms? any readings wanting to help fix my depression
>t neurotic manic depressed anon

>>20334620

^ this. regular meditation and physical exercise + dopamine detox. Do it or your life will be swallowed by a meaningless hellhole existence

>>20334805
ive read good things about that too.

>>20334549
1/2
I'll begin with a concise response to set expectations and will clarify what your available options are: there is a chance that these desires, which may or may not be classifiable as a paraphilia, will not go away even if you engage in all provisions to modify the conditions contributing to their emergence. Neuroplasticity in the brain continuously decreases as one ages further into adulthood, so it only becomes more difficult to modify neurological connective structures created from neuroplastic conditions (even in relation to more explicit conditions like epileptogenesis). With that being said, you absolutely can take a number of steps to at least dampen the unwanted desires, more importantly engage in healthier sexual activity, and perhaps most importantly achieve a healthier ordering of self-relation. This is also without saying whether or not these desires have been developed as a paraphilia through generalized structures developed around a fetish, or if a more innate bisexuality was simply revealed through the use of pornography (from your description, the prior seems more likely as it seems to have simply been a further advancement of extreme content, but it is impossible to say for sure). With respect to the first and second, I suggest you stop using (or even look at) pornography immediately, assuming you still use it as is implied in your post. Long-term use of pornography induces a mild form of brain damage, especially with respect to the hippocampus' involvement with memory formation (ignore the know-nothings who say otherwise) -- hormonal changes (high prolactin, dopamine metabolism, serotonin) are also important here as well. At a minimum, you should restrict yourself to masturbating without pornography, and ideally limiting masturbation as much as you can healthily. During masturbation, it is suggested that it occur without sexual ideation, or with ideation involving your wife.

>>20326219
That's a man and OP is a fag.

>>20335146
Before you even think about using shrooms in any capacity you need to optimize your health in other dimensions of life. The mains six dimensions of health are: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, social and environmental. There is a reason they are listed in that order, though I won't go in depth regarding that.

1.) Be asleep no later than midnight. Wake up by 6AM.
2.) Immediately hydrate yourself by drinking two glasses of water, then go to the bathroom and splash cold water on your face.
3.) Go outside and meditate for 15 minutes in direct sunlight. If the Sun is not out that's fine, but if it is out be grateful and take in the energy.
4.) Have a light meal (3 raw organic eggs with glass of orange juice), then go exercise. Go on a hike/jog/run, cycle, swim, weight lift, whatever. Just get your heart rate up in the morning and experience the calming, feel-good endorphins afterwards. It will set the tone for your day. Drink a protein shake afterwards.
5.) Shower, get dressed, eat more if you need to, then take care of whatever business you have for the day.
6.) During the evenings I highly recommend having an hour to read and/or an hour to express yourself through art, like painting or playing a musical instrument. If you don't know how, learn. Your right brain hemisphere is as important as your left.

You can fill up the gaps in the daily schedule, just try to make it productive within the context of the dimensions of health.

Do this for 3 months, then you'll be in a better state of mind/being to use psychedelics to whatever extent. In the meantime, look into Paul Stamets: https://youtu.be/_Isphu4c8hU

>>20335450
Based holistic healer

>>20334549
>>20335407
With respect to the second and third, it is much more involved and difficult to provide detailed advice in writing. What I will say is that, should these desires not cease, you should learn to accept these desires as a component of yourself, even if ultimately unwanted, such that you come to understand and to relate to these desires in a manner which allows you to avoid their draw. You understand, accept, affirm your condition (even while non-neurotically/healthily working on means of dampening or modifying it), such that you can take the desires which arise and cast them aside without any shame or impulse of taboo. This kind of mental practice could be likened to 'cognitive behavioral therapy', but I see little value in identifying it with a method which is still in a state of flawed infancy. What matters simply is overcoming frustration and shame and transmuting your disharmonious drives to healthy practices and positive self-relation. I was originally to include a critical comment towards the prior mention of reprobation (really the Baptist anti-Christian interpretation of it), but I will refrain from derailing an already off topic thread.
As a quick additional note, you can do the following to increase neuroplasticity:
Wild blueberries, moderate aerobic exercise (better than HIIT and weightlifting for neuroplasticity), fasting (brain autophagy/lipofuscin reduction), Lion's Mane (yes as others have suggested, increases BDNF), and a slew of other candidate supplements that you should look into extensively.

>>20327674
Take macca

>>20333794
If you want to go bald maybe...

>>20326219
No gap for 5 days and literally no gay thoughts..

>>20335644
No fap* stupid autocorrect

>>20326219
>asking for a legit advice on 4chan

>>20334786
yes, I value anecdote. Your life is a anecdote. It doesnt matter how rare it is. If it happens to you, its 100% of your reality. Right now, I'm bedridden from a fucking pill that is FDA approved and supposed to be safe. thats my reality.

Anyone who watches porn is just as much a faggot. Porn twists your mind and makes you more and more degenerate. Nofap stops the cycle and your brain will go through a cleansing period ultimately leading to normal sexuality. Otherwise if you have faggot thoughts and desires you’re probably just actually a faggot. Read Romans 1, God makes it clear people get so depraved He gives up on them and they develop a reprobate mind not even wanting to retain God in their knowledge. Stay away from porn unless you wanna become a faggot. God I hate faggots.

>>20335407
>>20335594
Thank you so much for your extremely well articulated response. You have truly given me hope. This is why I love 4chan and keep coming back after all these years; if you sift through the ocean of garbage posts, you sometimes come across absolute gems from high IQ, kind-hearted Anons like yourself who go out of their way to help their fellow man. I'm saving your posts for future reference. God bless you, brother.

So is this just a lions mane shill thread or what

>>20335757
It is precisely this reason, the utter dogma and stupidity contained in this post, that I wanted to address this so-called doctrine. Paul himself in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 refutes it directly (assuming you are an Andersonite/Bapto-Calvinist). Sexuality is not something that magically arises out of nothing, and this directly anti-Christian dogma provides no recourse to the rationalist discourse it sets off through its proto-psychology (that being, in line with Calvinist developments, the rational observation that vicious circles of sin lead to one's self-cutting off from grace due to a mental transfiguration in correspondence to the remorseless evil ('evil' here only being interpretively reduced and obsessively centered around one activity due to recent socio-historical developments) -- historically there is a connection here directly with Spinozim, and we of course all know where that leads).

>>20335796
No problem anon, I hope you are able to make things better in your life.

>>20335450
is that you Abu Bobo Bufatti?

>>20336045
Nice job taking those verses out of context. If you look at 1 Corinthians 10:13 he tells that same group of people that “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man”. Are gay desires and temptations common to man?

>>20326219
>when i get really horny i can only think of sucking dick and being fucked in the ass
>it ok i just won't let myself get horny

dude ur a fag. it's only degenerate if you're a degenerate about it. it's been part of humanity forever. just don't go to prides and don't participate in any of the homo shit like walking naked in public and whatnot. dress and be like a normal man and suck dick and get your ass roamed somewhere in private. be private about your sexual habits like heteros are.

>>20326219 (OP)
>when i get really horny i can only think of sucking dick and being fucked in the ass
>it ok i just won't let myself get horny

dude ur a fag. it's only degenerate if you're a degenerate about it. it's been part of humanity forever. just don't go to prides and don't participate in any of the homo shit like walking naked in public and whatnot. dress and be like a normal man and suck dick and get your ass roamed somewhere in private. be private about your sexual habits like normal people are.

>ITT rookies with limp dicks

>>20336576
It is theologically irrelevant (uncommon temptations retain no special status, even if one interprets it as a sign, if not an absolute verification, of some kind of reprobate status), and evidently common enough for Paul to have made mention of it in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Homosexuality does not originate from some miraculous decision from God, but, though vastly complex and multi-faceted in origin case-by-case as in with all human sexuality, through naturalistic developments according to physical conditions (this of course can include the physical social environment). If one comes to ask a question: "How is it that sexuality arises?", the answer of vague spiritual determinations according to male and female essence can no longer be afforded -- the answer is to be found in neurophysiology, that much is clear for heterosexuals. When we come to ask: "How is it the case that the disordered sexuality, with respect to the sex it originates it, comes about differently from heterosexuality?", the answer likewise cannot be dogmatic belief in some kind of divine rejection occurring in relation to conscious decision to reject divine command (especially for children who experience it shortly following pubescent development). There is increasingly elaborated evidence in neuroscience on the manner in which neonatal sexual differentiation affects neurophysiology associated with sexuality, and sex differences in the brain have been objectively determined wrt hetero vs. homo -sexual brains. The question then becomes: "What at all justifies the indeterminate conclusion of miraculous change imputed to this phenomenon?" The answer is simply the dogma itself, which circumscribes the limits of its rational and critical enterprise so as to not run into its self-undoing.

>>20335796
>>20336073

Niiiiiice.

>>20336576
>>20336944
I should further emphasize that there is no taking out of context: Paul himself says directly and unequivocally that former ἀρσενοκοίτης were washed of their sins.

>>20335704
Good, fuck you anon. I hope you stay miserable for a long time. And when you feel particularly horrible, remember this post. Lol. Eat shit.

>>20336944
Again, Romans 1 is clear about what leads to homosexuality. I trust God not pseudo-intellectual fag defense warriors.

>>20337031
I assume you know better how to translate the greek new testament than 47 of the leading biblical scholars at that time, including one who was fluent in 21 languages? That passage does not reference homos and this is made explicitly clear with the later context of the aforementioned verse 1 Corinthians 10:13.

It's okay to have gay sex anon. The ancient Greeks and Romans all did it. Pure aesthetic.

>>20337475
The Greek philosophers considered it an abomination and the Roman stoics also held it in contempt. You're just an eternal pleb defending plebdom.

>>20337475
Also diametrically opposed to aesthetic because it is inherently perverse and ugly. Aesthetic consists of balance and proper use, which is entirely lacking from sodomy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

Kill yourself.

>>20337582
High ranking scholars, philosophers, aristocrats, statesmen, etc were boyfuckers, not unlike those today. Your biases and romanticism blind you

>>20337666
>High ranking scholars, philosophers, aristocrats, statesmen, etc were boyfuckers, not unlike those today. Your biases and romanticism blind you
All pseuds and midwits, just like they are today, in comparison to Plato and Pythagoras.

>>20335704

Could be, i'm just implying that you are of an extreme minority. There is only a few thousand men in the world who have reported the same situation out of millions who have taken the drug.

I am also just implying that because it has only been a few thousand men, the odds are much more favorable for other factors to be the culprit of the situation even if it doesn't seem obvious.

I encourage you to go get a extensive physical and psychological workup if you haven't already. If you are young I think theres a good chance you will eventually find the root cause and be fine or the situation will just naturally dissipate. Make sure you don't just accept defeat and immerse yourself in delusional online echo chambers like Propeciahelp this will harm you mentally.

Also keep in mind, in the 2-5% of men who get side effects, they don't always go away rapidly. Some of these men are sensitive to the medication and it may take months for the drug to fully wash out of their system and for them to return to full capacity.

Best of luck, anon.

>>20337331
>That passage does not reference homos
Interesting to encounter someone not only utterly entrenched in dogmatic stupidity, but also incapable of basic Bible philology. What do you possibly think ἀρσενοκοῖται means? This is the Pauline term for homosexuals: ἀρσενο (male) κοῖται (bed, from 'to lie [down]'), contracted to form male-bedder, the man who lies with man (historical analysis has deduced that Paul adapted this term from an already existing translation of sodomite). He then directly and unequivocally says that there were washed of their sin: "kαὶ ταῦτά τινες ἦτε ; ἀλλὰ ἀπελούσασθε" -- And such some [of] you were; but you were washed. You seem to be incapable of responding to the primary issues of naturalistic determinations of sexuality, so there is nothing else to say. I will leave you to your vegetative dogma and anti-Christian orientation.

>>20337640
I guarantee you have no true admiration for beauty in your day-to-day life and only argue for its appreciation on the Internet. You are only capable of aping men wiser than yourself and refuse to challenge yourself or think independent of any literature you've read.

>>20337666
Satan trips lmao

>>20334460
holy shit, anon, you are a bigger faggot than OP who wants to suck dick.
Post finesteride syndrome is very real. "Oh only 2-5% of men might get a side effect" blah blah blah.
>>20334669
Seconding this. 20334460 you sound like a reddit tier mid 20 something. I want the best for you but when something actually rare happens to you the biggest problem isn't the issue - it's assholes like you refusing to believe it could even exist. Consider this a more-pushy-than-gentle message from the universe you need to change yourself. Other people's experience's are going to be very different from yours in life and your cocksucking Reddit spaced post is the epitome of someone who thinks they just have it all figured out.

>>20334712
>>20326328
fuck off both of you retards. You deserve the rope and buddhism isnt demonic its white mans religion. Dont listen to western buddhist shit tho its dog shit fake new fage garbage

>>20327674

If I mega dose lion's mane (around 3x the recommended), it does lower my libido but also gives me super powers, so worth it.

>>20326257

>150 replies

>>20326219
FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR TRANNY PSYOPS THIS IS BIZ SERIOUSLY KILL YOURSELF

>>20326219
Biz is biggest accumulation of GAMPs outside lgbt.

>>20337794

Lmao

I never said it did not exist. The whole point of my post is to highlight the fact that it LIKELY does not exist. This point is based off what we know about the drug and the data that exists on the reporting of situations like anons.

So yes it could exist, but if I am evidently guilty for using logic, reasoning and evidence to deduce why it likely does not, then you are just as guilty. Mainly so for adamantly believing in a few thousand anecdotes over a 20 year period and then proclaiming it is a "very real thing." When in reality, many other factors which are hidden or not, have a chance at being the culprit.

Also worth mentioning, many of these "PFS" cases dissipate overtime on their own, which only reinforces my point.

>>20338064
based

>>20326219
>jannies won't delete this
really makes you wonder

>>20334460
holy fuck that spacing