/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20165938
As a linkchad I have to say it. Not bad stakies, not bad

>>20166011
We've only just begun.. This project could EASILY exceed 100k Satoshi by the end of the year.
Anyone spending more than 5 mins doing his own research will know why

>>20165938
so this shitcoin is a scam but they have JP Morgan dudes on board?
How much they paid him kek

>>20166011
checked

>>20166161
and you think a guy like this would risk his reputation on a scam?
You have to be 18 to use 4chan

>>20166494
What reputation? He's just a random finance guy

Oh look another XSN Spam thread

>A literal nobody

>>20166494
>>20166682
look at this cope lmao

>>20166682
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitmex-hit-300-million-lawsuit-092041340.html

>>20166838
This is stakenets connections?

.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

*breathes in*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA

YOU HAVE NO ONE

C O P E

No one wonder why there's so much xsn spam on here, they can't fucking shill this garbage fast enough on biz

If you bought this you're a gullible retard

>>20165938
Damn op, 1 image is all it takes to grab all the fudders. They just can't cope knowing they had 5+ months to accumulate xsn but instead they bought pajeet pump and dump scams.

Not to mention all the binance shills.

breaking 1 billion$ marketcap is a matter of time.
1 xsn will be worth between 8-9$ each.

1 billion is just the first target, 10 billion is second target
100 billion is possible in a full blown bull market and adoption.

DYOR nostakies

>>20166161
exactly. when you see legit people on board then you know it's not a scamcoin like matic or something. then when you test the DEX you realize the FUDers here are whales trying to accumulate before the moon shot by labor day 2020

>>20167026
1 billion$ marketcap has a 95% chance of happening before the end of next year.

DYOR, nostakies

>>20167067
Most fudders are paid by CZ or angry /biz/lets who didn't buy early when I shilled XSN here for the last 6 months.

>>20166915
>>20166945
>reddit spacing
>seething at xsn
Guys, I found the chink shill

>>20165938
Very interesting, thanks

bump

>>20165938
If you think about it it's actually poetic. This guy was an angel investor in a centralized exchange that later fucked him over. He's probably advising xsn out of pure spite

>>20165938
Are you STILL PND'ing Stakenet? Just sell and get into ARPA already FFS this is embarrraaaZING

>>20167789
Do realize how massively undervalued XSN is for what it's already done and what it's setting out to accomplish into launch?

When the crop realize that they should have invested in XSN instead of their shity my little poney pump and dump scams. Kek

> smart /biz/ anon here

Why should I buy this over bnt, blocknet, komodo and others?

>>20168101
Do you realize xsn dex is gonna make arbitrage possible? Buy btc at 8450 from Bittrex and sell it at 8480 to Binance in a couple of seconds. Do you realize how much volume is gonna explode everytime a new exchange is connected to the dex? Do you realize fees are paid in xsn and given to masternodes? Do you realize how much money are masternodes are gonna make? Do you realize how much masternodes are gonna be valuable? Do you realize how much is gonna cost to buy 15k xsn to make a masternode? Buy now idiot

>>20168200
Do you realize that arbitrage tools exist and they do it way better than xsn ever will?

>>20167789
Still waiting for that dump...

>>20165938

This Gigachad came to test the DEX.

>Pic related

>>20168272

Until now running arbitrage, bots and aggregators were a complicated scenario to get working alongside DEX’s. A cross exchange arbitrage at its core, requires instant trade settlements to work correctly. As the traditional DEX model uses Atomic Swaps, these rely on standard blockchain confirmations between each trade which resulted in difficult on boarding of liquidity and locking out traditional trading firms. As our DEX uses the Lightning Network, it allows us to have instant settlements (via Lightning) and in addition to this, it allows for a unique DEX API.

Stakenet is about bridging the Crypto-verse, one of the ways to do this is through the use of our DEX. How could this be the case you might ask? There are many exchanges out there, which means that liquidity is spread-out across these exchanges. They are like little islands all on their own, at Stakenet we aren’t interested in building another isolated island, we are in the business of building bridges between those islands in a real-time manner.

With Stakenet’s API the user can connect into any exchange that offers the use of API for trading like Binance, Livecoin, KuCoin, Bittrex, etc and bridge the gap. This will allow them to trade effectively from the exchanges orderbooks to the Stakenet DEX orderbook.

The XSN DEX is a true Decentralised Exchange that does not require a user to forgo their rights to be anonymous and with the use of liquidity partners, users are able to tap into the most liquid exchanges, trade amongst themselves, and keep ownership of their own coins. In addition to this, you do not need to own any other cryptocurrencies to use the DEX, other than the currencies you want to use to trade on it.

You can view the Stakenet API in action below where a live trade happening on the Stakenet DEX orderbook and it’s corresponding trade happening within Binance’s orderbook

Source: https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-dex-multi-exchange-trades-7193243f0c13

>>20168272
Idiot, xsn is running lightning network. Buying and selling happens in a instant. Try to beat that you nigger faggot
>muh arbitrage tools
kys

>>20168101
>LN atomic swaps are instant and can swap natively from any one LN-compatible coin to another
>Native interoperability with Raiden. Instant BTC/ETH swaps (anything LN/ERC) without placeholders
>Non-custodial
>Liquidity Aggregator (Vortex) capable of pulling orders from multiple CEX and DEX orderbooks without an account or KYC

>>20168359
Can i trust livecoin?

>>20168101
You shoudlnt. Just buy more BNT and hold til atleast $10. Coinbase soon. You're welcome.

>>20168482
buy XSN from livecoin and then immediately send them to a wallet that's what i did

>>20168362
Idiot, LN can't scale. Kys nigger, not buying your fucking scamtoken

>>20168607
the targeted fud at XSN looking very bullish to me. LINK vibes anyone?

>>20165938
Why do you think he is competent for his current project after this article proves he got scammed by Bitmex?

>>20168398
>he thinks atomic swaps = dex
You shills just aren't very bright sorry to say

>>20168482
it's been around over 10 years so yes. any exchange is risky so never leave a lot of money on it, especially for too long

>>20168676
>this shitcoin #274658 is giving me link vibes
Easily detected nujeet shill point

>>20168718
xsn has lightning swaps not atomic swaps and yes, they're instant

>>20168788
>completely missing the point
Dumb shill is dumb

>>20168744
you are obviously committed to tearing down any upsides of XSN. Why? What is your real motivations here? To be nice? to Help newfags learn what is and isnt a scam? No you don't care about that you care about money. That is the one thing we all have in common here. You are fudding XSN because in some way it benefits you.

>>20168788
both are involved

>>20168817
>completely unintelligible shillpoint
Big yikes stay on script my dude

>>20168718
Trustless P2P swaps are exchanged via a non-custodial medium. It is absolutely a DEX in every sense of the word.

>>20168935
>It is absolutely a DEX in every sense of the word
Except that it's not. Where's the order book? Fucking kek dumb shill

>>20168958

>He thinks there's no orderbook

https://orderbook.stakenet.io/XSN_BTC

Just got schooled you absolute retard Topkek.

>>20169105
XSN has several different negative factors contributing to it, which make it a very poor buy IMO.

The worst thing you could do is invest in any exchange in 2020, let alone XSN. Regulations are being passed as we speak and all DEX's will be banned. Why do you think CEX's started doing KYC? The government is gonna buttfuck *all* exchanges. Unless they have their ducks in a row the exchange will be outlawed and anything coming in and out of it will be policed.

Theres also the fact that normies are not going to like XSN. They are going up against established exchanges in the space that not only have a headstart but offer services that XSN wont and cant offer. No KYC sounds nice but biz is suffering from echo-chamber syndrome, the rest of the crypto and financial world enjoys the security and the additional features a CEX offers. I'm sure XSN will get some real world adoption from enthusiasts but their reach will probably stop there.

Theres also the problem of LN scaling. This is a fundamental problem with LN and cannot be solved. Giving users the ability to rent out channels for money is absurd, its ridiculous, that doesnt truly solve the problem by creating more fees on top of more fees.

Considering the amount of awesome projects out there in the space, I see no reason to drop any fucking money on XSN, the reward just isnt worth the risk. They also have a channel dedicated to shilling on here just like what they did on POSW, the guys at the bottom have spent years accumulating and they want their pump.

>>20165938
he will give input for then Stakenet launches its pro platform with advanding trading features like ladder style orderbook.

I think it should be a pro feature, payable in XSN of course

>>20169128
>literally copy-pasting the exact same already-refuted fud in every XSN thread
>>20164584
we told you to buy at 550 sat

>>20168958
Atomic Swaps are dead with Lightning Swaps want to see why? Go to Swapzone where it tracks other DEX’s that all run on Atomic Swaps. Sort by fastest, 24 fucking minutes to confirm a trade on BTC/LTC, 23 minutes on BTC/USDT and these are the fastest.

Stakenet DEX does it instantly and in trading every second counts that’s why nobody uses these DEX’s but everyone will use Stakenet’s DEX speed and liquidity is important and they have both.

>Pic related

>>20169326
>refuted fud
In the original thread in which it was posted, it was never refuted. Because they are valid points.

>>20169128

>The regular fud isn't working anymore so let's just say some philosophical bullshit and bring no evidence to back it up

Stop resisting anon you know you want to dip your balls in XSN.

>>20169538
>unprovable claims that the government will shut down x, y, and z
>h-HAH SCAM
CEXs have been doing KYC for a decade.
LN fees are relatively small - much less than transferring BTC back and forth from an exchange on-chain a few times.
Stakenet DEX is also non-custodial.
The upsides are many and this is why it will more than likely take off and go parabolic.

>>20169128
The evidence says otherwise DEX volume is soaring and going up dramatically month on month

>Pic related

As for your attempt at fud to say LN has scaling issue please link me to a source on that that isn’t 2 years old and I will gladly school you on it.

As for biz pump channel on discord please post screenshot where that is being encouraged as all I see is no posts today and 1 post all of yesterday so yeah big shill operation going on in there.

>Same person, same fud just trying to reword it so it sounds more believable but all of it has already been disproven multiple times.

>>20169718
its just so good i couldn't resist getting a masternode last july. fuck that thing makes me horny as fuck! damn you look sexy... fuck me xsn masternode fuck me! i will suck your literal dick xsn masternode! $$$ xxx

>>20168607
Why not?

>>20169128
couldnt agree more

>>20169750
Thank you lightning chad. I don't get the "lightning isn't scalable" argument

>>20169750
>Same person, same fud just trying to reword it so it sounds more believable but all of it has already been disproven multiple times.

exactly this

>>20169896

>>20170473
time to educate some no-stakies. buy if you wanna invest in the nega-jews. future 1%er here and only 1 MN.

>>20169718
>CEXs have been doing KYC for a decade.
90% of CEX's have NOT been doing KYC. I know because I've been doing this shit for awhile and only recently within the last few years has KYC ramped up on exchanges like Bittrex. Don't be daft.
>LN fees are relatively small
Fees are fees! They were "relatively small" back when bitcoin was nascent, now the fees are abdurdly high, just for what - transferring money? Why do that when there are alternatives out there that offer to transfer money for free?
>take off and go parabolic.
Dream on. If its too good to be true...

>>20168899
>If its too good to be true...
im triggered

bump

>>20169750
this. the majority of comments in the XSN discord biz channel are links to random threads created on biz. absolutely zero organization going on. clear FUD

we're mooning this afternoon anons. going over $.25. I feel it

>>20171701
i really need to setup staking because it looks like the only way Im getting a 2nd MasterNode is gonna be saving my block rewards from my current one. It's gonna be about 4, 5 years before I will have generated another 15,000 xsn. At least I have a chance though.

>>20168359
Stop shilling so Hard, let me buy some first

>>20173167
if only stakenet official documents and resources weren't so elegantly written am i right

>>20170159
Because there are a limited number of channels. Renting channels is retarded you're adding fees on top of more fees

>>20171701
We all know xsn discord is full of posw pajeets pumping these threads to high heaven faggot
Kys

>>20174476
And yet the fees are cheaper than Onchain fee from wallet to exchange + exchange withdrawal fee + another Onchain fee from exchange to wallet. You really trying to throw everything at XSN and see what sticks, lucky they made of Teflon

>>20174599
They are cheaper because no one is fucking using it
What use case is there for xsn once btc and ltc become irrelevant? None. Kys scammer

>>20174819
>What use case is there for xsn once btc and ltc become irrelevant
btc becoming irrelevant?
LOL
grandaddy crypto aint going anywhere son

>>20174853
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Denial. Screencapped

>>20174819
It’s not limited to BTC or LTC the wallet/DEX can support any blockchain. Once Raiden integration is complete that adds ETH and all of ERC20. Any LN compatible blockchains can also be added easily. Any that aren’t can still be added just requires a bit more work.

>>20174921
>The dex can support any blockchain
HAHAHAHAHAH, what the fuck? So what? It matters not. Every other Cex has a bajillion pairs on them.
>LN compatible
OMG hahahaha LN will be going nowhere just like xsn

All you can do is try to pump up xsn on biz and trick gullible bizzies into buying

Not. Buying. Your. Bags.

>>20174898
when will bitcoin fall from #1 tell me

>>20175123
Later this year

Hold xsn for another month then sell

Thank me later faggot

>>20175037
>>20175037
That’s the thing don’t need anyone to buy any bags, just need people to use the wallet/DEX which as DEX volume is rapidly growing every month as more and more people are moving to them it shouldn’t be too hard as all current DEX solutions are shit compared.

Look guys.
Really nice effort you're putting in, buuuuut...
>pic related

>>20175037
>>20175294

You are the most pathetic fudder I've ever seen.

COPE NIGGER

>>20175452
I like using Binance, bittrex, kucoin. No need to use your shitty dex.
>Dex volume is growing month to month
Citation needed
Dex will never become the standard
You are investing in a turd wrapped up in a fancy box

>>20175483
Soon bitcoin, Litecoin and xsn will become completely irrelevant. You get so mad because you know deep down LN is broken tech. It will never see mass adoption. Meanwhile mass adoption is at the doorstep

GG you lose stay mad haha

>>20175592
>Soon xsn will become completely irrelevant
Why?

>>20175549
I produce receipts, you produce nothing but weak fud which is easily disproved every single time but hey thanks for the free bumps

Source:

https://twitter.com/duneanalytics/status/1278223406190788608?s=21

>>20175637
XSN built their platform for lightning. Anyone with half a brain realizes LN will never work and bitcoin, Litecoin are fucked. Xsn has a partnership with Litecoin. Charlie Lee himself disavowed Litecoin. Let that sink in.

Like others have posted soon crypto will go mainstream and btc will go down the toilet. Xsn with it. The writing is on the wall. Btc is fucking old crap technology and if crypto is to go mainstream we need a crypto with the tx capacity and btc ain't it. It has major scaling issues. Plus there's the fact that a whole load of crypto is gonna get culled soon and exchanges if anyhjing are gonna shrink, there's a dime a dozen out there already. Xsn is too late to the party

>>20175592
You keep saying that but haven’t produce a single shed of evidence to support it. Just supposed to take your word for it when everything you have said so far has been disproven but your right about this? Ok then

>>20175708
OK I didn't know that. It doesn't matter though lol. Dexs are a passing fad cause crypto is gonna mainstream soon

>>20175751
>Charlie Lee himself disavowed Litecoin
when

>>20175800
All you need to do is fucking search for how lightning network has scaling problems. Fuck, even one of the LN devs himself admitted that it has problems scaling past 10000 nodes, stop being a dirty fucking liar. Fucking scammers kys

>>20175815
so one of your main arguments doesn't matter now that it's proven wrong?

>>20175819
Charlie Lee sold his Litecoin holdings last year rofl. Look it up. Litecoin is a fucking joke

>>20175902
How has it been proven wrong? Fuck off so what if dex growth is up? Big whoop it means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

>>20175960
well on multiple threads you keep repeating that dexs are a thing of the past, dying and should not be invested in. Also you implied that they aren't growing by asking for citation. That has been proved wrong by that quick eight seconds google search

>>20174506
there is literally zero activity in the xsn discord about biz or even fucking reddit. and when there is it's never coordinating a biz assault like you see with PNK (Kleros). they had army meetups on when to flood /biz/. xsn will just link threads from here to there and that's it. they will also call out the devs to answer FUD from biz...

You're all blinded by greed. It's the same shit with COSS, Nash, we get a wave of delusional retards that think their exchange is the chosen one. Even if the exchange sees some success it never really breaks through to the top. Xsn is too little too late. All of you faggots are blinded by greed. Get fucked.

>>20176026
Nigger no one believes you, I've seen the screenshots of the biz discord. Just stop lying and kys

>>20175868
Problems /= unsolvable

>>20175868
I did and there is nothing apart from a reddit post from 2017 that was taken out of context and spun by Bcash retards to try and make it look like BTC is failing so again provide the receipts on LN having scaling issues as I can’t find anything else so you must know something I don’t but I would be really fucking surprised if that was the case

>>20176098
the only screenshots you may have seen are from like 2018. nothing recent in the past year, and especially not in 2020. your whole point was they were organizing biz assaults now but you're once again wrong. anyone can join the discord and see what you're saying is complete bullshit

>>20176035
So in essence you are comparing XSN to random who coins and trying to make it stick, because their failures are Stakenets..... hmmmm l0gical view point 10/10
>>20176098
How about instead of seeing the screenshots posted here you actually go to the discord and check. Come back and post with your findings.

But you won’t. Just like the media you like to manipulate opinion by cropping and editing crap to portray your own narrative. SAD

>>20175868
>asks for citations, gets citations immediately
>yells at people to fucking search for citations he can't provide himself

>>20176148
>the only screenshots are from like 2018

LIAR LIAR LIAR YOU SCAMMER FAGGOT

KYS

>>20176245
This is not a court of law faggot. Unlike you I am not being paid to post and deceive people on here

Let me give you a little sneak peak... WOWWOWWOW ITS nothing

Okay onto your next point fud point. Lets hear it

>>20176314
YOU MEAN I CAN GET PAID TO SHITPOST MY FAVORITE PROJECT WHERE DO I SIGN UP kek

>>20176314
man I wish I was payed for dealing with your fud. Imagine being payed for laughing the whole time

>>20176414
It's paid, not payed

>>20176282
>one person asks a questions
>another person answers 50 mins later
>10 hours later someone posts a link

COORDINATED SHILLING ACTION

>>20176444
thank's mate

>still waiting for evidence of LN scaling issues

>>20176534
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>20176145
>>20176534
>>20176595
>>20176245
https://youtu.be/AtbgyhVZ06g

Here is 50 minutes of Bitcoin being destroyed

At the 24 min mark LN is utterly destroyed

Enjoy faggots. Sam is one of the best in the biz

Get fucked.

>>20176789
Anon... get some help the FUD is taking over your life.

>>20176866
Shrug, it's that feeling when you know you're right.

>>20176444
checked and spelling pilled

>>20176789
LMAO
six degrees of kevin bacon network
fucking sad desu

>>20176789
Watched the LN part at 24 mins and wow guess what you just gave a perfect example of how Stakenet is fixing LN and will be another driver for its adoption so congrats.

His main points for LN failing is its chaotic network with all these channels going all over the place and no structure and he’s somewhat right. However Stakenet have solved this by using their MN network as the LN nodes. This provides a massive structured interconnected network instantly. User channel goes to MN hub and then to wherever they want. This ensures constant channel liquidity backed by MN collateral and watchtower services all in one.

>>20177180
so these master nodes are going to connect through millions of lightning nodes instantaneously? hahahahahahahahaha
who came up with this dumb shit

>>20177247
masternodes equal lightning nodes. they all are already interconnected. It's always:

A -- MN1 -- MN2 -- B

All a user has to do is to connect to a MN. The network will do the rest on its own. Even connecting to the first MN is automated. So actually the user just has to wait a bit for the connections to be syncd and that's it

>>20177413
yea its magic there are no giant unscalable permutations involved with linking potentially infinite actors
thanks for the logical point you fucking piece of shit

>>20177559
But they do connect to MN automatically they have to because that’s how the lightwallet works it doesn’t store blockchains the MN network does hence why you don’t need to download all the different blockchains and sync them yourself.

First you said nobody will use it and now you are saying haha no way it can deal with infinite actors so which is it. If Stakenet gets to the point where it has billions of users then I think your entire fud about it being a shitcoin P&D will be disproved.

>>20176996
>fud XSN day and night for 2 weeks straight because you have no life and hate success
>does a 5x
>lol im right :)
yeah ok lmao

>>20176789
BASED! Haha, right on! Brotha from anotha motha. Yes, he's absolutely right on about LN and its limitations. Looks like you revealed your power level lul.

>>20177180
>>20177674
> Stakenet have solved this by using their MN network as the LN nodes.
Did you watch the 31 min mark? Did you miss it? It's literally been mentioned before previously on this thread.

If the MN nodes are doing the tx's then they will be charged with a crime. It will be, if it isnt already, illegal to transfer money between nodes. Like you said, it happens off the chain, it happens off the network. Unless they are collecting KYC/AML (which by definition DEX does not) then it is illegal.

It goes right back to what me and others have been saying, that this whole thing is gonna get screwed over by the government.

Think about it, if it was that easy to fix LN...IF IT WAS THAT EASY, wouldnt Blockstream think of the solution already?

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

>>20177939
Oh wait, I know, its
>But you can't charge MN's with a crime
>You cant shut down the network
>We'll become so big they cant shut us down bla bla bla....
They can barr all transactions that go in and out of the network. It's that simple. Then they will fucking do a Silkroad on Stakenet if they dont comply and shut it down. Then they will go after the MN node owners and their wallets, whoever are collecting the TX fees.

Ironically, the only way this doesnt happen is if Stakenet stays small enough that it never hits the government's radar. Oh the irony.

>>20177939
Blockstream can’t just add MN’s to BTC and they have to real way to incentivise people to run LN nodes, the fees are tiny so it’s not really worth it so they have no way to create an large interconnected network like Stakenet already has. Stakenet MN owners already have an incentive to run the MN being the block rewards as a base level. Any fees and stuff is an extra bonus.

Every node hell all of blockchain could be classed as an illegal money transmitter so good luck with enforcing that. As I said before maybe in certain jurisdictions they can do something but this will not be able to be applied globally so people will just move their servers to where they can’t be touched.

If China can’t effectively ban BTC even though they have tried multiple times then the rest of the world has got no chance of enforcing anything similar.

>>20177939
it only matters once transferred to paper currency. until then the money isn't actually "yours" so it's not taxed at that time

>>20178113
>If China can’t effectively ban BTC even though they have tried multiple times then the rest of the world has got no chance of enforcing anything similar.
That's where the whole "US government banning crypto" argument is so laughable.
It's pretty damn bullish when even the damn CCP can't ban it.

>>20178113
>>20178144
>The fees are tiny
What? Bitcoin fees are notoriously huge, what are you talking about? It has to do with the legal issues of MN owners and transferring money off-chain.
>Every node hell all of blockchain could be classed as an illegal money
Bro this is not 2015. It's 2020. The game has changed. Crypto is no longer some underground operation. This is why there's KYC in so many exchanges now.
>Any fees and stuff is an extra bonus.
And who is going to be paying those fees? The user. The money doesnt come from anywhere. The rented channels are extra fees added on top of that. The whole LN model stinks. An off-chain solution to blockchain, which is supposed to be on chain.

>If China can’t effectively ban BTC
China doesnt want to ban BTC. BTC is a China product...it is practically owned by China. Another reason to stay the fuck away from LN.

>Muh KYC
More like "kill your customers" once the XNS Dex takes over, am I right?

>>20178398
Here is a simple test. Does the Stakenet team have legal advisors on their team that have worked with regulators? do they have a clear vision on how they are going to deal with the regulations that are going to coming out soon? If the answer is "yes" then I would invest.

If the answer is "no" then, like all other fucking exchanges, my answer is "no", stay away from it. This goes double if they are messing around with LN.

>>20178621
And no Mr Amato with all due respect doesn't count

>>20178431
The fees I was referring to are LN fees, which is why there is little incentive to run a LN node and why it is hard if not impossible for Blockstream to build a large interconnected network like Stakenets MN network.

Exchanges have to have KYC, they are a company that is making money off people’s trades, a company is easily targetable.

Once the DEX is deployed on the MN network there is no taking it down. The team aren’t making money off the DEX hence why all fees go to MN owners or are burned. The MN owners take the risk and if there is profit to be made people will take that risk if there even is any.

>>20178621
Of Stakenet were to list on a US based fully regulated exchange then that would answer your question that all legalities have been followed wouldn’t you say?

>>20178431
no idea why you quoted me in your FUD since you didn't address my point at all

>>20178778
>Exchanges have to have KYC
Yes, they have to have KYC in order to deal with regulatory enforcement which is coming soon.
>Once the DEX is deployed on the MN network there is no taking it down.
Like everything else out there that the government cannot directly take down, it will simply be banned. Anything coming in and out of it will be considering money laundering. Including Stakenet fees. And that will be that.

>>20178820
I admit I dont that, but it would be impossible for them to do so asaik unless KYC/AML is involved and god knows what else.

>>20178851
>didnt address your point
>Its not "yours"
Any crypto-to-crypto trade is a taxable event, its absolutely taxable. Not only that, its by definition money laundering.

>>20165938

it is - it's a premined permissioned scam not relevant to decentralized tech

anyone who considers eth a cryptocurrency is not qualified to speak on this subject and should kill themselves

Judging from how strong the FUD is on this project, I better buy more.
NO ONE spends so much of their free time trying to bash something they do not care about hahaha.
Somebody either are in competition with this project and FUD out of fear OR they try push the price down.
It's one or the other.

Nice announcement from the team today. Super happy to finally be on board.
Keep up the FUD BTW.
Iv got more buy orders on lower lvls hahaha

>>20178113
Yes they can the incentive is the LARGEST FUCKING NETWORK IN THE WORLD

the reason why they don't do it is that off chain would be fucking illegal illegal shit

This is why world leaders don't like bitcoin and building on lightning was a huge fucking mistake by xsn tards

You are investing in a turd wrapped up in a gift box

>>20179118
Great ignore valid points and buy more of your turd

Now go back to discord and collect your xsn

>>20178621
Answer is yes as far as I know. They XSN does have a legal team.

Also what are you fudders American? No wonder your attitude sucks, most financially ruined people on the planet (excluding the third world). Prolly just mad and fudding to bring prices down so you can afford this beauty.

>>20179143
Hey man if you hate XSN that's you're own problem. You just can't tell the stars from the moon. Sorry you're blind, wish you could read.

>>20179177
You faggots have been lying all day long fuck off

>>20179120
Go on then explain how Blockstream incentivise people to run BTC LN nodes on their network?

>>20178996
>Like everything else out there that the government cannot directly take down, it will simply be banned.

Tor hasn't been taking down. BitTorrents are still used. There are plenty of decentralized networks that have been operating for years while ignoring government regulation. XSN will be no different. There is nothing the government can do. Banning XSN will be trying to ban torrents, an unwinnable fight. This is the whole point of decentralization.

>>20179236
>2 xsn has been deposited in your account

>>20179120
Illegal where? In land with laws governing 3% of the world's population? Hmmmmmmm

>>20166708
Hey man, everyone is nobody until they're Arthur Hayes, Bill Gates, Elon Musk or Donald Trump..... so, pretty invalid point there.

>>20179271
>0.05 BNB has been deposited in your account

>>20166915
The fud is a pain, really mucking it up. Inaccurate assumptions made by uninformed, unread people.

>>20168482
Never had a problem with them since my account with them about 6 years ago.

>>20169128
When it comes to legality of Stakenet's dex application is non custodial. In other words Stakenet doesn't hold your coins, you do. Unlike any centralized exchange which has complete control over your coins and therefore needs to be regulated, just like a bank. You put money in the bank, the bank owns your money. Stakenet's is like cash, you can exchange it at your leisure with whoever. Not to mention transaction time is wild. Set up a core wallet or the dex app and send it from one wallet address to another, literally 3-5 seconds.

>>20179263
Exactly
On top of that not every country has stupid rules that make trades a taxable event. How fucking greedy can a govt be wtf.

God ive been tracking this coin for over a year and watched it dwindle to 4 cents. loaded some at 6 cents and feels made expensive at 17. ill buy more once my lazy ass figures out how to use to buy monero, if i can buy monero off it, im sold

>>20179914
>enforce shit tax laws
>no one files
kek

>>20170140
Lots of original BTC maxis won't consider MN or altcoin tech simply because it takes so long to upgrade the protocol. Even doing one small change on a low level protocol has to go
through insane auditing and lots of consensus. Imagine trying to push for a change when you're rearranging and you split the miner block rewards! That would never fly, miners would never accept and give up their rewards to allow for this change to be considered. So, what this does bring is one existing technology allowed and proven to work on many chains, masternodes, and meets it with btc 2nd layer.

The BTC/blockstream guys can not move that fast to get too wild with implementations or ideas, otherwise they'd be in the altcoin world.

>>20179249
Works for you too.

>>20179972
I think Monero is planned to get implemented but not on LN. Only atomic swaps.

>>20180441
A lot maxis simply embrace whatever BTC/Blockstream embraces because BTC=good

>>20180644
Local Monero/Agoradesk -> Stakenet DEX wallets, for max comfort

>>20179143
Uuuuhhh... So triggered..hahaha
Price not going low enough from your FUD??
What is your entry point if the Manipulation of yours works and how much are you looking to buy?
Just cut the crap and be honest.
We all know what you are trying to do.
It's the oldest trick in the book.

>>20176789
Nice vid. Saving that for later.

>>20176789
Was about to grab a bag but you're right. Looks like I dodged a bullet on this one

>>20181335
>>20181352

Having masternodes solves that problem. They bring liquidity and make the calculations that small devices can't do to find a route.

Bump for EPOS

Classical coin that will go underwater and of which the development could be delayed month after month
buy at 10 cents not now

>>20182520

>>20182520
Theyve put out at least 3 wallet updates this week alone. Last week, they put multiple builds out same day.

>>20182657
you'll see in one month when they not gonna realease how much itall dump
exscuse me if I talk like a mongoloid

>>20183292
>Theyve put out at least 3 wallet updates this week alone
They delayed the DEX for years. It'll dumpa in a month

>>20183314
1 BNB has been deposited in your wallet.

If by script kiddie you mean someone who just 4x, sure I'll take it fat boy

Bump for HYDRA

>>20179177
>They XSN does have a legal team.
lol they are poor which legal can they have ahaha lmao

I have 13 master nodes. bought around 600 sats. Getting $130 USD week income atm.
Wait to this baby hits $10 EOY.

COPE MOTHER FUCKERS

>>20184568
seething about xsn in broken english
lel every time
>>20184634
based
>>20184677
checked

>>20168817
>you care about money
speaking for me, I genuinley care about the well being (especially financial well being) of these anons

>>20183366
Checked and kek'ed.

>>20185316
>i care about these anons
Lmao yeah ok. So -that's- why you obsessively lie to anons and spread misinformation?
It's an insult to intelligence and no one believes you.

>>20185316

>>20166915
>1 BNB has been deposited to your account

>>20169128
>Didn't buy in last month
>Spends all day seething

>>20186244
Checked

>>20184677
Not bad anon.. I bought in at 530 Sats. Fucking comfy

>>20186244
>he thinks it won't dump to 10 cents when exange notready after 1 month and anons chasing other pumps on uniswap...oh sweet summa child

>>20186896
>wen exange notready is scem plos buy nuke
Behold the elegance of XSN FUD in July 2020

>>20186896
Screenshotted