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>>20119472
This is now an EPIC CASH thread

buy kleros sirs

Hoskinson: Cardano’s code base on a par with NASA and SpaceX

Charles Hoskinson explains that Cardano has the best code ever written in the history of computer science.
According to the CEO of IOHK, Cardano eliminates all the problems and teething troubles that Bitcoin and Ethereum bring.

I cashed in some of my vechain gains today to buy 124k ADA, but I know nothing about the project. How long until I make it?

>>20119569
Staking 124k ADA with Cardano sitting at a price of $0.10 will earn you round $100 a month. With ADA set to hit a dollar within the next six months this will be $1000 a month passive income.

So soon.

>>20119592
how will I into stake

>>20119614
You can stake from your wallet.
Coinbase are also going to integrate staking allowing users to buy, stake and store Cardano

>>20119614
How to stake ADA
>Have ADA in your wallet
>Select pool to delegate to

You are now staking.
There will be tools to give stats about pools in the future, like https://pooltool.io/

>>20119614
staking will be through the daedalus wallet and is brain dead simple to do. staking goes live on mainnet August 8th or thereabouts

>>20119569
Like fuck you did! Where? Post transaction ID or at least a screenshot to prove you're not a larping faggot.

>>20119510
Theory vs practical use. Lets see shall we?

>>20120388
>Theory vs practical use. Lets see shall we?

Cardano has been developed using peer-reviewed research based on Science.

Looking through the history books Science has never lost. My money is on Cardano

>>20120441
I'm all in Cardano, but it still needs to prove itself in the real world.

>>20120358
What's unbelievable about that lmao. It's less than a third of my stack, stay poor.

>>20120687
I think the team knows this and I have great confidence in their ability to produce something of an extremely high quality that works. I'm sure the team are being highly methodical in the execution of this project.

>>20120732
I think so as well. The hardfork combinator is pretty remarkable.

>>20120731
Other than not being able to find a transaction for that amount anywhere, it's totally believable!

Larping faggots gonna larp.

>>20120888
Happy? It's AUD.

>>20120970
Yes. You are not a faggot and have made a very wise choice.

>>20120985
:)

>>20120970
Shit, I need more Ada! I see number like this and get jealous!

>>20120970
Should've put all that into NVAX instead.

>>20121043
Never heard of it

>>20119472
I’m 40% in. I plan on holdling long term and cold staking. Best project out there.

UNLAUNCHED
SHIT
COIN

Sold all my ada at 10c. I still believe in it and will pick it up again when the hype and price has dropped down.

I think cardano will test 10c for a while, when staking rewards go live it should have surpassed it though. I'm thinking 11c in August, top3 mcap when goguen launches

what the fuck does itndo?
i met charles irl around 2017 and he told me to buy it. it was 2 cents then. its still 2 cents

>>20121873
In my opinion $0.10 ADA is currently severely undervalued.

I'm still buying at these prices and I don't expect it to dip below $0.09

>>20120441
>based on science
What is inflation? ADA tokenomics are retarded. Vaporwave shitcoin no one will use.

Someone explain how staking will not dilute the value and slowly bleed it out to 0. Charles Cuckinson will be dumping every payout for his travel blog expenditures.

>>20121907
Ethereum is slow, broken and written entirely in Spaghetti code, financial institutions can't build upon it and it's barley functional.

ETH 2.0 is still at least three years away and they still don't know where to start.

Charles Hoskinson was one of the original lead developers on Ethereum and realised it was severely flawed upon launch thats why he started work on Cardano. It solves Sustainability, Interoperability and Scaleability. It's based on the laws of science and has been painstakingly built to the same quality as a NASA space shuttle.

>>20122001
thanks for srs answer. but what does it have a use for? smart contracts? any companies using it? isnt charles leaving?

>>20121959
Elaborate.
Hard capped max supply.

>>20120888
Its not that weird , I also have a bit more than 100k.
Now that I think about it ,100-200k its the typical stack of someone who is not a richfag but has been around crypto for a few years.

>>20121873
Man If I were you and I really really wanted to sell I would wait atleast a few months after staking and coinbase listing...

>>20122121
It is written in the kind of high assurance code that NASA and NASDAQ rely on. If we want large institutions to start adopting a public blockchain, it needs to be if a certain high caliber. Ethereum is not that. Haskell is a language that high end finance utilizes. Cardano is essentially what Ethereum should/could have been. What is already built on Ethereum is simply proof of concept alpha testing and speculation. The “first mover” advantage is not insurmountable if Cardano delivers superior tech. The code is already being praised as head and shoulders above the next best project.

>>20122266
Can just they simply coexist? Cardano for governments,banks,etc and ethereum for less complex tasks which dont require as much security like casinos, gaming apps,etc?

>>20121873
Not at all unreasonable. It’s down to 9.4c right now. Obviously there are swinging opportunities, but I’m not that brave. Long term, 10c is still very cheap and for LT investors, it’s a fantastic price point to get into a position. But you are right in that 10c will provide resistance for a while and it’s going to crab until closer to main net launch. I’m just not brave enough to swing with more than 10%. I believe in this project too much to possibly be caught with unpacked bags. But there are definitely opportunities, that by the price, you were correct to take advantage of.

>>20122286
Yeah. I’m not a maximalist. I think once the crypto ecosystem takes form and matured, we will not have a single public settlement layer, but multiple that fit different domains and their requirements. So I don’t buy into the “ETH killer” trope. I have severe doubts about Ethereum, but I also own some. I think Cardano is going to appeal to larger institutions. I think Ethereum is not going to die and has its place as well. I think the next big theme we will be seeing (or need to see) is interoperability. We’re going to need robust ways for unrelated chains to work together. I think that’s what will make the space ultimately very attractive for widespread adoption.

>>20122286
>>20122351
But speaking in investment terms, I think Cardano has bigger investment upside. To get to ETH ATH, you are 5x. To get to ADA ATH, it’s like 15x.

>>20120441
>history and science
top fucking kek it’s literally one single dungeons and dragons virgin creating and commenting in all these ADA threads

>>20122590
And a single one FUDing them

>>20122375
Blockchain is still in its infancy, the worthwhile projects will likely surpass their ATH... With due time

>>20122137
So where pos reward come from after hardcap is reached?
Fees
Meaning same shit as bitcoin but not in 140 years but in 5 so failed tokenomics AF

>>20122266
iant charles leaving? why?
also how much money is there to be made given its top 10 ornwhatever already

>>20123147
The amount of brain power that went into constructing the incentive structure and tokenomics is kind of absurd compared to other projects. They have PhDs working on this. That's not a guarantee that what they've done is correct or will succeed, but you dismissing it out of hand is kind of a joke. People far smarter than you or I have been working on this for a while. Let's see if their methods have merit and not dismiss them out of hand when comparing them to projects created by script kiddies.

>a bunch of university of Edinburgh kids made code on par with spacex and nasa
>another dpos ETH killer (this one doesn’t even have smart contracts) is finally going to succeed

>>20123933
Smart contracts are coming in less than 120 days buddy. They have been in development for over two years now.

>>20123871
Where did you hear that Charles was leaving. He's done nothing but discuss this as his lifelong project in his streams. Are you referring to his talk about stepping back from prominence? I know he's talk about that as a matter of consequence of Voltaire making Cardano decentralized and governed on chain and that he will not longer be able to just dictate things. I think he will still very much be involved. But I ask where you saw that news because I would be interested to see it.

As for return and being top 10, it's still only 3B MC. I know, that seems like a lot, but this is meant to compete with Ethereum and is a big project. It's ATH is around $1.30, so we could still see a 13x if using historical numbers. Sure, that was during the ICO bullrun, and I don't think we'll have a market like that again across the board, but select projects will see bull runs. Even $1 puts the MC at $30B (10x) and that's not hard to fathom if the project gains traction. Tech wise, it's head and shoulders above the next. The question, is will superior tech attract adoption. They are partnering with Waves for a $20MM fund for dapp development with a special focus on defi. That should be enough to get some good dapps going and once Voltaire is released, there will be a Treasury war chest that holders can vote on projects to fund for either core development or dapps. Nothing is guaranteed, but I like how Cardano is situated. It has a low risk high reward proposition. And if we do hit another big bull run, it could be huge.

>>20119472

scam coin general?

>>20119510
>sociopathic founder lies again
News at 11

>>20121843
But “muh sciense and formel poofs”
Kek.. it got them a centralized testnet and no smart contracts... in 3 years. They also wasted almost a billion of investors money.
>inb4 muh smart contacts coming soon
Bitch please.. it’s too late for more baseless claims

>>20121873
Smart. It will go back to at least 3 cents.

>>20122001
>calls Ethereum spaghetti code
>immediately uses as proof of Charles’ authority
>muh nasa science
Whoa boy... we have a hot one. This is who Charles scams.. right here

>>20122266
VHS/Betamax

>>20119472
Its been five fucking years, IOHK contract ends this year for Cardano development. They are going to postpone and deliver nothing or deliver a literal piece of shit and be like “oh contracts up guys! Its in the communities hands now” just like EOS.

Screencap this

>>20123933
Someone should tell these fucking sheep that most academics can’t hack it in private industry and would make more money if they could. If they are still hanging around a uni after 30 they definitely have major competence issues

>>20124446
Yep.. it won’t even have an eos pump either cuz Charles is gonna fuck ip the exit

gonna pump till 18th of aug, then crab, '21 next ath

>>20124446
Yeah but:
>unpopular opinion for Ada bagholders:
huge red flag when project gives option to "turn it back to community"
Eth and btc are shitshows but whole "core dev" thing is there for a reason lol this is just door for soft exitscam, you cant make "future financial rails" using contractors and than say we done community takes over now" LOL
>unpopular opinion for Ada haters:
This shit will pump on staking meme and cb lisiting like mad just look at waht tezos did, there is HUGE inflow of newfags who turned in bagholdersand "cimmunity members" parroting "science" and "best tech" memes if you wont buy any at least long 5-10x long it on bitmex around 8c and enjoy gains

>>20124396

so much fud it's unreal. Are you not able to address multiple people in one post silly bollocks?

ADA will not go below 9c now unless there's a covid wave 2 or some bullshit that wipes off 20-40% from everything. If that happens again it shouldn't be as severe, but suppose it is, in the worst case scenario ADA won't go below 6c, and if it does, it will v shape recover faster than anything else

I expect it to test and crab 9c-10c before randomly spiking up to 13, 14c, and then by end of August (after staking launch) we will see 20c be the new support with 6b MC, firm 5th behind ripple biting at their ankles. Then from September onwards, potential 20% leg ups all the way to 50c area. That's conservative and I expect severe economic disruption too, so have factored that in

you'll see mongy boy

>>20124681
3 cents incoming noob. Cap this. It happens every time. You just bought, you are the mark.

>>20124681
Look how scared he is.. walk if bullshit scared. Does he know?

>>20123147
>but in 5
wrong faggot. at least try and get your facts straight.

>>20124681
the fud is here because there is blood in the water. mETH faggots are terrified of the cardano leviathan that is rising from the deep. thus they fud.

>>20123147
They hired PhD's in game theory for this. I trust that more than some "dude, trust me" on /biz/

Gougen roadmap

>>20125381
You newfags are the ultimate top signal. You don’t understand Charles has been fucking promising Shelly since Q1 2017.

He’s literally promised it 3x since Q1 2017 and its just now coming out, 5 months before IOHK’s contract to work on Cardano ends? LMAO. I used to buy into this scumbags bullshit, I held 500K ADA, sold most and am selling my final 130K on this pump. Charles is pulling an EOS.

>>20125496
ETH 2.0 has been promised since 2017. Still wont come out for another 2-3 years.

>>20124427
The difference is that if VHS malfunctioned, the financial system didn’t collapse. There’s a higher degree of reliability needed for adoption. And yes, superior tech does not automatically win out, but I say it’s more important in fintech than consumer media formats.

>>20125632
Did I say anything about ETH retard?

>>20125650
We're talking about promises that haven't been delivered. ETH 2.0 is the closest thing.

>>20125640
So you’re just making shit up now like Cardano is going to run the entire financial system. Kek. Well it would have to for you to make any gains at this insane overvaluation of a network that still does absolutely nothing.

>>20125680
So your justifying Charles lying for 3+ years because ethereum has done it for 2?

Is this some retard logic I am too smart too understand?

why would i invest in luxury cars in the lowest money velocity times in our time

>>20125758
You sound upset friend. You will not make.

>>20125827
I make plenty Patel

>>20125843
I hope so. Good luck to you.

>>20125758
The big difference and why I wont buy ADA is the fact that Ethereum is in fact up and running and there are several "eth killers" that already run and are better than ethereum yet havent gotten damn near any adoption levels to scare off eth holders. Cardano might be better than eth (really who knows because its a test net and real usage far surmounts battle testing) but the train is long gone and honestly no one likes Charles Hoskinson he is then ethereum equivalent of craig wright.

>>20125758
He "lied" because he underestimated then gargantuan task of using Haskell AND formal methods. Will it be worth it? Time will tell. At least I, and many others, feel safer knowing how meticulous they have been developing this. It's space grade development. It's made with the motto; "If there's a bug, human lives could be lost".

If there's a bug, people lose money.

>>20125885
This is a good point since people put weight on personality more than quality of products, but a lot of people didn't like Steve Jobs at first either yet the iPhone with it's superior technology overtook the market and the rest is history.

>>20126002
I agree. Charles can have really think skin at times. He's intelligent enough to change, he just need the right incentive, whatever that is. Hopefully it'll happen sooner, than later.

>>20125885
>Ethereum is in fact up and running

Ethereum doesn't work and it never will

>>20125758
He was in on that scam too so...

>>20122121
>low IQ ancient copypasta
>THANKS FOR THE SERIOUS ANSWER KIND STRANGER

>>20126073
Ethereum works or you wouldn’t be here faggot. In fact you are only shilling ethkiller #5268 cuz you are seething that you missed eth and are desperately trying to manufacture another chance at making it.

The reason Cardano won’t ever catch on us obvious.. even far better Performing yet compatible Ethereum networks are not taking any of Ethereum’s market share. Cardano is an entirely new Rube Goldberg machine that no developers are going to waste time learning.. until it takes off.. but it won’t take off because no developers will bother because there is no traffic.. it’s a dead project anon. You may as well gamble in uniswap scams.

>>20126201
Nice you took the bait.

Ethereum doesn't work and projects built on top of it can easily be hacked / exploited and have been as recently as last week, STA / STONKS both had their liquidity pools drained last week via Balancer..

Can you Imagine if HSBC built an application on top of the Ethereum network only for somebody to find an exploit and syphon funds all the funds out...

Not only that Etherum is completely over congested and at the best of times charges ridiculous gas fees that regularly get stuck pending. In 2017 the network pretty much collapsed because due to people trading Imaginary cats. Ethereum fucking sucks

>>20126358
What and you think cardano wont have any exploits discovered if it gets built on? That is stratospheric level delusion

>>20126383
Nope It's been painstackly written in Haskell the same programming language that major institutions like banks use. Every commit has come under intense scrutiny from highly regarded Professors of Mathematicians and Science from some of the worlds top Universities and Institutions.

>>20126383
Nope It's been painstackly written in Haskell the same programming language that major institutions like banks use. Every commit has come under intense scrutiny from highly regarded Professors of Mathematics and Science from some of the worlds top Universities and Institutions.

>>20126383
All software and applications have the potential for exploits. The point is that ETH didn't follow any formal methods in its inception which means that it is far more likely to have these exploits inherently in the code than something that follows formal methods and a peer review process. So if in the future there are problems with exploits then the chances of the exploits being inherent to the Cardano code are less than Ethereum and their code. Nothing is a guarantee but having kind of foundation is important when you're dealing with billions and potentially trillions of dollars. Yes, the drawbacks are that it took a long time and that perhaps less people might end up creating on the platform but it's quality not quantity. What good is your software if it's filled with a bunch of low quality apps that can be easily exploited?

This is why I used the Apple example earlier. At first there weren't many people creating apps for the iPhone because they were a bit more difficult to work with and had higher standards but this filtered out a lot of the shit and created a higher quality product with a better user experience which ultimately led to mass adoption. Similarly the route taken by Cardano was longer and more difficult but it has the potential to create a better user experience for both creators and users, in the long term.

Nothing is guaranteed but Eth is extremely fucking flawed and does not provide a good user experience. Maybe to some it does, but to most people they end up getting used to it because it's the only game in town at the moment. I can't wait to start using Cardano instead, and I'm sure others are in the same boat.

>>20126383
Plutus is being developed to minimize those chances.
>Formal verification
>Quick Check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnX3B9oaKzw

>>20126648
but ethereum isnt the only game in town and devs havent moved platforms....who is to say that they will move platforms to code in haskell of all things. Also if eth2.0 gets launched even within 2 years cardano still wont catch up

>>20126673
>What is Formal Verification?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CTNS2D-kbY

>Quick Check in Haskell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD7GmxBA_Qw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfaNEebCDos

>>20125496
I've been here for years faggot. try again

>>20125650
you're a ETH bagholder. do you have your helium tank ready?

>>20125758
charles has not bee lying. Cardano is one of the most straightforward open projects that exists, if not THE most open and transparent. you'd know that if you actually followed it rather than feared it and parroted Consensys shill material.

>>20126201
jesus fuck the COPE on you. here today posting the same fud you posted yesterday. I notice your desperation level has been ratcheted up a few notches though.

>>20126704
This remains to be seen. It's possible but I would hedge my bets.

>>20126383
>what are formal methods
>what is formal verification
>what are mathematical proofs
>what is quickcheck
COPE and projection faggot. the slapdash shitcode and duct tape holding together ETH are a reflection on the shit design of ETH. stop projecting.

>>20119472
Why is Cardano any different from Tezos, Tron, or EOS?

>>20126957
I’m well for one, it’s vapoware that doesn’t exist beyond a centralized ledger.

We can probably leave it there.

>>20126883
Yes but you know I’m right.

>>20126937
>muh formal methods
>muh verifications
>muh peer reviewed
>muh acedemia

bunch of bullshit buzzwords....fact is that eth is king and I bet quite a bit that this is dumping back to .05 because hoskinson never delivers on time and over promises.

>>20126618
Ask me how I know you aren’t a developer and just parroting shit you don’t understand.

>>20126704
think again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJANeEkj408
>devs havent moved platforms....
AGI is likely going to move to cardano. the founder stated as much when he gave a talk at the cardano virtual summit a couple of days ago.
>who is to say that they will move platforms to code in haskell of all things.
Cardano does NOT need solidity script-kiddies to move over to cardano. Haskell devs are among the most experienced developers in the world capable of creating god-tier experiences, including defi. Those devs have a clear path to use their existing skillset and code and deploy that on cardano.

>>20126989
The ITN was not vaporware. You seem to be emotionally invested and not a credible source for information.

>>20127010
This.. and it has happened over and over with this project. It almost always sees lower lows. I’ve tried to explain the “Hoskinson cycle” to these newfags but they want to believe so badly that an overvalued top-10 mc comin can somehow moon against all odds when it is still unfinished and has mountainous hurdles to see adoption. Fuck it.. they are gonna learn the hard way I guess.

>>20127029
>god tier experiences

yeah you are shilling in every ADA thread and parrot shit on reddit...fuck you and get ready for a face melting dump that will make your wildest nightmare come true once Hoskinson once again doesnt deliver on time. I'll be buying your bags at .05 cents.

>>20127010
>I have no retort so I'll just label everything I can't retort as (((buzzwords)))

>>20127060
Nobody cares about simple staking. Several networks have it on mainnet and it’s not centralized like Cardano. How new are you?

>>20126989
https://decrypt.co/26805/cardano-produces-first-block-for-its-shelley-blockchain
Wow, that FUD was hard to debunk
They're using a specially developed hardfork combinater to avoid unforseen problems. Instead of hardforking the entire thing at a certain block, it's being "hard forked" many times over a period of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGCB7f095UM

You're not even trying.

>>20127065
no bro didnt you hear, cardano is gonna solve the oracle problem

>>20127065
kek explain to me the hoskinson cycle.

>>20127074
I might buy a few at 2-3 cents cuz Hoskinson is a pretty good scammer and there’s an endless supply of retards.

>>20127074
>yeah you are shilling in every ADA thread
translation: posting facts and retorting mETH baghold COPE-fueled mongloid-tier fud posts
>parrot shit on reddit
sorry faggot, I don't use leddit so I wouldn't know what goes on there. nice spacing btw

>>20127016
Your right I'm not a developer. Most of the Anon's here are not and neither are you. I know little HTML, Javascript and Python enough to build websites and make an Instagram like bot but no I'm not literate in Haskell it's one of the hardest programming languages to learn.

>>20127081
>keeps repeating reddit words and hoskinsons verbage to the point of nauseum
>gets called out on it
>hurr durr my repeated phrases are substantial evidence my shitcoin is going to the moon

Gonna laugh and posts Charles travel blog here when you get dumped on

>desperate seething ETH bagholders
>fearful as fuck so I spend my time fudding ADA threads
>keeping the Cardano thread on page 1
mfw

>>20127146
>>20127146
>still no retort
>still not fud that sticks
>still talking about leddit.
truly pathetic anon

>>20127084
I will patiently wait for ETH to release their ITN for ETH 2.0 in a few years.

>>20127151
>see Im on page 1 of the catalog Im so relevant

so was stonks.....oh man Im gonna laugh at you fags when Hoskinson dumps and leaves you out to dry.

>>20127178
>pathetic

says the guy shilling an incomplete project going on 3 years without a working main net or smart contracts

>>20127193
>coping this hard

It's okay friend, we're less than 30 days away. I hope you plan accordingly.

>>20127097
It’s a pretty elaborate scam, but the part I’m referring to as the “Hoskinson Cycle” is the part where they have a flurry of activity.. tell everyone.. “this time we will be consistently productive until mainnet”, draw in a bunch of unsuspecting moonbois that think they have finally found the one true coin.. then don’t deliver, stay quiet, let it sink to lower lows and do it again. It’s usually preceded by some artificially interesting release like paying ppl to use their staking testnet. We are entering the lull period now where all the moonbois that bought the top are desperately shilling it as it heads back to a few pennies. Even with the massive premine this garbage was unironically $1.30 once, albeit with lower supply and no staking inflation. Now they are cooming over 10 cents lol. The next hype period will happen after it hits 3-4 cents and they release some horrific attempt at smart contracts using a Haskell based language they made up(stole?).. and Charles goes on YouTube yo tell everyone how smart they are for making a platform/language for nerds. This has been going on for about 3.5 years now and they have... staking.. on testnet.. and the buggiest wallet in crypto.

>>20127215
I plan to laugh at you its wayy too hyped to have this marketcap and the "experts" Hoskinson has need to be paid.....this will dump back to 5 cents....dont say I didnt warn you.

Lets think of this logically, any project that isnt complete yet trying to get more exchanges is a clear blatant flag that someone big needs to dump coins.

>>20127145
>neither are you
This is how you get yourself in trouble anon

>>20127260
I'll make a thread for you in 30 days.

>>20127250
I just got it. Lightbulb moment!

You bought the top in 2017 and are still salty as fuck to this day

>>20127215
>ask me how I know he’s new

>>20127250
when I see articles like this....this is why I wont buy
https://decrypt.co/23487/cardano-touts-scaling-solution-inspired-by-greek-mythology

>>20127262
Let me guess you once deployed an ERC20 token on Ethereum and now you think that makes you a "developer"

>>20127193
seething
>>20127214
>incomplete project
all crypto projects are incomplete anon. that's how this works. show me a project with no devs and I'll show you a dead project.
> going on 3 years without a working main net
well at least dyor anon. cardano's mainnet went live in 2017. you do know what a mainnet is, don't you anon?
>or smart contracts
merging into the shelly mainnet over the next 120 days. writing new languages that are actually secure takes time.

>>20127214
>I prefer buggy spaghetti code
>I like things being rushed
>"Let's release it and see what happens!"

We're trying get you all to raise the bar. We, the "investors", deserve that the entire crypto space does their utmost to not lose your money.
It's your money.

>>20127284
>he posted it again

>>20127283
Oh shit we have a genius. Close but wrong. I played with it all the way down tho listening to Charles fake promises, so maybe I’m just trying to save some anons from getting scammed. The lies would be great.. if they were true, but sadly after over 4 years, Charles has produced a broken wallet, staking on a testnet and a noun sin of misleading marketing collateral.

>>20127339
>buys ada
>"we the investors"
>looks at ADA chart

that made me laugh irl good job anon

>>20127364
Thanks for looking out for us anon. You truly are a man of the people.

>>20127315
Seethe all you want but I’m a professional dev and live in SF. I get this. You don’t. I’ve actually used Haskell professionally and I know jr devs can’t pick it up because it takes some time to grok super strong typing and advanced functional programming concepts like monads and functors. Keep shilling this and telling people how much better it is than other platforms even though you admittedly don’t understand any of this shit. Fuck I hope you’re from plebbit cuz you’re fucking embarrassing.

>>20127374
>Completely missing the point of that post

>>20127414
>and live in SF.
Thats nothing to brag about...
I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
Every street is covered in human faeces. It's literally Mumbai in the USA

>>20127308
>Cardano byzantine resistance with Ouroboros Hydra 50% byzantine resistance because cardano scales in a decentralized layer 2 while still scaling to 1million+ TPS
>ETH 2.0 byzantine resistance only 25-33% because that't the tradeoff you make when sharding the base layer. guh
>I don't like it because Ouroboros and Hydra are greek mythology. I prefer that ETH was named after world of warcraft because vitalik played wow.
mmmkay anon. you do you.

>>20127414
>but I’m a professional dev and live in SF
Why settle for subpar code? Why not aspire to create the safest most secure shit ever, especially when peoples money are involved?

>>20127414
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>20127468
do not bother trying to convert that faggot anon. he's heavily invested in another platform and he is scared as fuck, which is why he seethes and writhes with mongloidian fud in every Cardano thread on this board. he's been at it for a while now which is a testament to how terrified he is of cardano. he's not here for anyone's benefit other than hoping that is dumbfuck-tier fud will somehow help his flailing project of choice.

>>20127414
post some proofs being a dev so OP has to squirm knowing his wagiebux are about to lose over half of its original value.

>>20127468
Its a bunch of buzwords that still havent been used by actual people not on the dev team, this could be a bigger shit show than ethereum.

>>20127536
>havent been used by actual people not on the dev team
Becuase it's still in development? See >>20127327
There are playgrounds available for both Plutus and Marlowe

>>20127414
if you are a brainlet cardano is actively planning to support legacy languages. Cardano literally has no drawbacks compared to other shitcoins.

>>20127524
>post some proofs
You can barley speak English
How can you create good quality fud if you can't even articulate yourself correctly

>>20126861
I’ll spell it out for you since you are as dense as lead.

I DO NOT HOLD ANY ETHEREUM FAGGOT.

I’ve been in crypto since 2014; the only time I touch a shitcoin nowadays is to short it to the ground. Charles sold ADA as a “gaming/gambling platform” in 2015. Delayed launching even the token till 2017 after lawsuits. Since then he has promising mainnet for 3 years, missing every deadline.

If fucking DAN LARIMER of all people calls you a psychopathic liar, theres probably something about you. Hes been kicked off of EVERY SINGLE project hes worked on. ETH + Bitshares. Hes a confidence man and you are stupid and naive enough to eat his shit up.

IOHK contract to develop ADA ends this year, have fun with your community developing fucking Haskell LMAO, if they even release a damn thing aside from another testnet/wallet.

>>20127468
There is nothing wrong with the idea of building a node in Haskell, but for some reason they rewound and went back to Rust in a fairly unannounced way. It’s obvious they were having trouble pulling it off since the Haskell daemon is still not finished. It’s also not bad if Plutus is Haskell-like But it’s a barrier to adoption. The bigger issue is that they have 7 tmyears if catching up to do trying to rewrite and outclass Solidity/EVM and they act like it’s a done deal. It certainly fucking isn’t.

>>20127589
Except it doesn’t exist still after 4 years. I have a great idea for a network too. I’ll build it someday. Hold on I’ll go deploy and ERC20.. get your unishit wallet loaded

>>20127469
I thought your post was satire of ada moonboy buzzword salad, but you're serious! Hahahahahaa
BTW
>ETH 2.0 byzantine resistance only 25-33%
This is incorrect

>>20127654
see
>>20127339

>>20127619
okay butthurt asshole
>Charles sold ADA as a “gaming/gambling platform” in 2015.
false. that's a tired old lie that rests solely on one random shit-tier japanese webpage. there is zero substance to that FUD. literally zero.
>Delayed launching even the token till 2017 after lawsuits.
false. cardano was launched as a darpa style project and they did foundational research to test if proof of stake is even possible. first they researched and proved the security properties that bitcoin has. that foundational paper (about bitcoin) is the most cited paper about bitcoin and is one of the most cited papers in the entire cryptosphere. Once having established and proved what the security properties of bitcoin actually are, the same research team created a research stream called Ouroboros and PROVED MATHEMATICALLY that not only is proof of stake possible, but that Ouroboros IS the solution for it. Ouroboros is the only mathematically proven proof of stake protocol in existence. Once that foundational research was established, there was zero delay. that is how long it took to establish the granite bedrock foundations of a provably secure proof of stake system.
>Since then he has promising mainnet for 3 years, missing every deadline.
not missing every deadline, and I've been along for the entire ride. your summary is inaccurate. the team has been transparent the entire time, something you would know if you had been watching all of the content, which you clearly have not.
>If fucking DAN LARIMER of all people calls
Dan is the biggest scammer in the entire cryptosphere. 4 billion dollar ICO and delivered outdated shit-tier tech and barely at that. try harder

>>20127744
no faggot. sorry but that's the case.
ETH 2.0 byzantine resistance will be between 25-33% byzantine resistant. that is the best that is possible for ETH 2.0 because they are sharding the base layer. Cardano gains the benefits of sharding with Ouroboros Hydra but none of the drawbacks of sharding the base layer, which is why cardano will retain 50% byzantine resistance with hydra implemented... because they're doing it on a decentralized layer 2.
>bitcoin - 50% byzantine resistance
>cardano - 50% byzantine resistance
>ETH 2.0 - 25-33% byzantine resistance
facts are facts anon. sorry

>>20127819
>literally no proof

https://web.archive.org/web/20171119070841/https://warucoin.com/gyousha/ico-insider/ada-coin/cardano/

Every single mainnet launch date has been a lie. Beginning Q12017.

>dan larimer
Exactly the fucking point, and they kicked him off the team at Bitshares LMAO.

>>20127871
based anon

>>20127619
Charles has said multiple times that they will continue working on the protocol into 2021 if that is what is necessary to complete the current roadmap.

>>20127907
>literally no proof
a random shit website that anyone in the world could have made is (((proof))) if you are ultra desperate. kys dumbass. so fucking hilariously stupid. and yes, old as fuck known mongloidian-jogger-tier-fud from some random shitty japanese website. anon, you need to check your ability to deal with the modern era. that's just stupid.
>Every single mainnet launch date has been a lie. Beginning Q12017.
you don't know what a lie is anon. making a good faith effort to tackle enormous scientific problems and failing to hit the dates is not lying. and cardano has learned a great deal from past failures. they're nailing every date these days. they've refined processes and are delivering like motherfuckers. stay salty and desperate to fud faggot.
>>dan larimer
>Exactly the fucking point, and they kicked him off the team at Bitshares
false. Charles left willingly when he saw that dan was an absolute scammer and did not give a fuck if he fucked over people who bought into his projects. charles leaving that marmit-faced wierdo in the dust speaks worlds about charles' character.

in celebration of your reddit spacing

TRY

AGAIN

>>20119472
4

>>20128066
Checked

>>20127871
50% if the network is synchronous, and 33% if it is asynchronous.
Now tell me the difference.

>>20128058
Lmao you say you are not a newfag, yet you haven’t read the Bitcointalk post where Dan confirms he and the board all voted for Charles to resign.

I don’t care to argue with you zealot. You’ve been conned by a con man and its harder to convince someone they’ve been trick than to trick them. You’ll get burned, maybe learn your lesson, maybe not.

>>20128058
>>20128211
When the crook Dan Larimer says this about you, you know its bad.

Lets not forget Charles was booted from Ethereum not too long after lmao.

>>20128267
bought more ada--great post

>>20128205
>pretending a global system like ETH 2.0 will have to be can run in a synchronous state
dream on dumbfuck... and meanwhile
>cardano keeps 50% byzantine resistance in an asynchronous state
that's what a world-class research program gets you

>>20128327
bought more again

>>20128267
hmmm... let me get this strait. you're mink-faced dan larimer, a known scammer who wants to throw his investors under the bus and plans to make a life out of repeatedly launching shitty projects and then driving that bus over every investor in every one. a man of principle comes along (sir charles) and when he realizes that dan is a scamming sociopath and so charles says... says that's some fucked up shit man, I'm out. now dan the proven sociopath and scam-master (4 billion ICO which produces a laughingstock of a protocol using 20 year old tech) gets defensive and calles out man of character and slanders him. jesus fuck anon, you are a certifiable idiot.

>>20127626
Have you used solidity tools lately?
Its 5x better than 2017 and viper is comming also.
What confuses me this noobs talking about better "tech" in fucking software development LOL is this space really that dumb?
Also yes i get it eth is shitshow but everything is shishow and in infancy and this retards act like deploying mainet is win in itself wtf...

Tbh I have nothing against haskel or plutus but they shoot themself in foot when they diched solidity/evm compatible from map EVERYTHING i see is beeing built around it

>>20128327
>will have to be can run
There's that famous Cardano attention to detail

>>20128579
it's okay anon, embrace your 25-33% byzantine resistant future while Bitcoin and Cardano chug along at 50%. the benefits of UTXO (bitcoin) and Extended UTXO (cardano) over an accounts-based model (ethereum).

>>20128399
And what about for Ethereum? Charles was so noble he got kicked out of there too?

>>20128267
Has ADA left EOS, Steemit and Bitshares in dust?
Oh - look only - ADA top coin, Larimer = shitcoins.

But trust this guy moron.