/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20108265
24 year old garbage man anon here who has 800 horses. AMA

>>20108265
FUCK NIGGERS

borger

>>20108279
what is the nicest thing that someone ever threw away ?
how much trash do you personally throw away every week?

to horse or not to horse? the chart shows it as a classic PnD. prove me wrong.

>>20108284
Based

>>20108284
Based Human. Anon's should learn from this one.

>>20108286
b o r g r

THE HORSE CONTINUES TO GALLOP

>>20108289
I’ve heard stories of coworkers finding crazy stuff but I’ve only been doing it two years. One time when crushing up an old dresser I found a bank envelope with 100 crisp 100 dollar bills. They were from the late 90s/early 00s and all still stuck together, never been used. Last week I found a box with about 2000 magic the gathering cards but I gave them to my friend. A lot of my coworkers know how to fix small engines and will regularly pick up lawnmowers and weed whackers that only have a small issue like a carburetor and fix them and sell them. Another guy found a PS4 last week.

>>20108291
Too many coincidences to make it a typical pump n dump and there's a decision point to play along with. I expect at least 50% of the USPS contract. Which my guess should pump them to 25 to 30 a share. If they get 100%, it's an easy 40 a share.

>>20108291
pnd are much faster and nowhere near as steep. This is clearly a bubble pattern, not a pnd pattern, which is very different. In a bubble, the bubble can keep going on nearly forever, whereas for a pnd, the correction is brutal and immediate. Bubbles respond to events and typically don't correct anywhere near as much as pnds. Pnds don't respond to events, they respond to price targets for take profit.

>>20108279
I had roommates move out and leave their furniture that (couches) I have no plans on taking with me when I move would I be an asshole to leave that curbside?

we hate the horse

die horse

we baled

were jelly if it moons to 200

Buy KTOV

Sign this petition

https://www.change.org/p/phil-murphy-investigation-into-sabby-management-llc

>>20108339
>>20108345

this is it, I am putting all my cash into it. If this flops i will curse your name for eternity.

>>20108265

Oil Chads report in!
XOM & RDSB Diamond hands here

>2020
>he didn't just buy KTOV

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/KTOV

>latest PR

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1614744/000121390020016497/ea123760ex99-1_kitovpharma.htm

Debt free biopharma under $1 with a drug going to bring millions royalty revenue and two more drugs that are potential cancer fighting blockbusters.. what is there to lose?

Everywhere in the mainstream I see stories about how day trading is impossible to make money and that every day trader is losing money, warning me that I should never try because I will only fail. Then I come here and I see you guys making money and beating the markets, what am I to believe?

>>20108372
your hands aren't diamond, they're all oily

ALL IN ON AUTOMOTIVE ELECTRIC TULIPS

Help me out - I still can't quite understand the difference between mutual funds and ETFs. Is it simply that (1) ETFs can be traded exactly like stocks and mutual funds can only be trading at the beginning & end of the day and (2) mutual funds have higher feels?

t. boomer

>>20108383
Most people in here are not day trading though, they are not even trading at all actually. The majority are simply buying something that gets shilled in hope of it blasting, a.k.a gambling

I hope congress gets off its ass after the holiday and passes the 2nd check bill before they vacation again in august. So what if I am a greedy bastard who wants to see another 2400 dollars just appear in his bank account. Grab as much as you can while you can that's how I see it.

>>20108372
Shhhh, don’t tell anyone the top 1 spot.
https://www.dividend.com/dividend-etfs/#tm=3-dividend-etfs&r=Webpage%231288&f_6=ETF

>>20108374
>>20108353

It’s trash and y’all are bag holding.

>>20108407
>mutual funds have higher feels
?

>>20108419

Nothing wrong with it they give disgusting amounts of money to corporations and Israel every year.

>>20108383
you shouldn't trust anything that you see in the media or here
all of these people are fearful and/or greedy, but mostly they are just dumb

If you try and become a day trader you will probably fail. but if you try to do other things you will probably fail at those too. So should you never try anything? No! just do the best you can. If you fail, it's because you deserve to fail.

>>20108358
Don't buy on Monday at 9.30am like a retard though.

>>20108471
are you the 9:50 anon?

>>20108347
Does a municipality or private company pick up your garbage? Either way most over bulk services so i can say where I live we pick up everything. If you do it every week though it will not be picked up.

>>20108350
tfw i saw you post on scv and now we are both here

>>20108383
Reliable gains over the course of years via day trading is incredibly hard. Especially in normal market conditions. We're doing well, but we're doing well right now in a volatile market where you either do well or eat shit.

>>20108429

Its trash? Lets look at the preclinicals..

Keytruda brings Merck 15 billion a year

Keytruda effectiveness : 40%
Keytruda effectiveness w/ NT219: 80%

Now read this highlighted quote.

Did I mention consensi revenues or that this company is debt free????? This isn't even touching on CM-24 collab with Bristol Myers

No brainer

>>20108483

Do you work for WM? I own stock in them

>>20108495
>Keytruda
That’s a nigger tier name tho

>>20108407
Yes.

>>20108495
>Mr. Israel
Son of a big that was the only part you needed to highlight.
All in.

>>20108509
Black stocks matter

>>20108485
haha ya thats strange i watched gsl earlier for the first time in probably 7 years

>>20108383
I turned 5k to 50k, started June 17th. 85% stocks, 15% options (max)

>>20108482
No, I'm a 300 shares @ $8 and another 150 @ $19. I've just been checking WKHS and early mornings are a bad time to buy.
Might be different this Monday because it'll probably be -10% on opening, but if it's up don't buy at 9.30. Hope this makes sense.

>>20108468
And if I succeed it’s because I deserve to succeed, thanks anon I’m getting a practice account

>>20108495

Good luck to you man. Messing with bio just doesn’t seem to pan out a lot of shady stuff goes on.

never forget

>>20108447
*fees, cmon son context clues. I can hardly type withou shakingg

are any of you holding mutual funds? my goal is just to throw some money into a standard brokerage account, obviously rather than have the money burning in a saving account. I like semiconductors

>>20108528
I too watched it. Was fun

>>20108529
what did you buy to achieve these gains?

>>20108529
Thank you, it’s possible then

>>20108529
In retrospect, I really regret not taking advange of the volatility not selling covered calls and cash secured puts

>>20108552
SOXL 4 life

>>20108583

Hindsight and retrospect means absolute dick in the market.

>>20108509

Keytruda is Mercks multi billion dollar cancer fighting drug that is only 40% effective lol

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1614744/000121390020016497/ea123760ex99-1_kitovpharma.htm

Debt free biopharma under $1 with a drug going to bring millions royalty revenue and two more drugs that are potential cancer fighting blockbusters

>>20108495

https://stocktwits.com/BurnsInvestmemts/message/225309793

>>20108597
boy that an ETF - I'm talking about mutual funds here.

SOLO will moon on monday, r-right?

>>20108662
Most normal people buy semis through BAKA.
Fidelity has a fund with semis but it's higher expense.

So how far do you predict the economy to drop from the 2nd wave of rona? I predict it will reach the lowest point sometime in july or August, and obviously the stimulus will drop and moon it back up.

>>20108694
Holy shit, I forgot about the filter tbhfamalam.

>>20108482
He's right, there's a solid chance that wkhs will dump before going back up. Wait for the dump to buy. Or (I prefer this), DCA through the first 4+ hours.

>>20108693
Yes fren

>>20108705
*shaking my head* anon, shaking my head.

and thank you.

yeah I see here Fidetly has FSELX. semiconductor is the future, the future!!

>>20108699
I think mainly the majority of the world just hasn't realized how long this is with us. Even if we don't have much of a second wave, the recovery from this could be up to a decade. People are gonna be unlikely to want to gather in large crowds, And when they do gather it's going to be very expensive to put all the safety precautions in place. And since we are talking United States markets, our country is handled it some of the worst ways. I think that stimulus will help, but at a certain point we're going to hit a wall.

>>20108422
Are they any good tho?

>>20108403
government is gonna mandate every buys more electric tulips every year

>>20108458
>isreal
Most of the money is earmarked to be used to buy american military gear. It also gives US special powers over israel, such as when they forced israel to give back the territory they won following the surprise attack they suffered during their holiday.
The biggest aid recipient in the middle east is Iraq, not Israel.
Israel aid is still way too much, but so is any aid to the middle east anyway.

>corporations
This is the real killer. This prevents the free market from being real.

>>20108782
fuckk all those countries man
that's my fuckin money they're spending!
MY MONEY !

>>20108782
How much is KSA?

>>20108498
No I work for a municipality

>>20108407
Mutual funds pool investor money into a common account. A manager(s) actively manages that fund to make returns for the pooled investors. The "shares" in that mutual fund appreciate (or depreciate) as they value of the assets of the pool increases (or decreases). Active management means that there is human input involved in deciding what to buy and sell, as well as when. Mutual fund managers charge fees, typically 1-2% annually to all accounts. Instead of picking stocks, it comes down to choosing a mutual fund manager. Most MFs have a 5 letter ticker. Most MFs have been losing ground or lost since the 2000s to Index funds. Rebalancing happens after market based on the net flow of money in or out and the various positions taken by the manager.
Index funds are basically MFs with a "passive" management style. What happens there is the manager just has a robot buy whole bunches of stocks across many different sectors that "average" the big losers with the big winners to give overall average of the market or particular market sector based on predetermined selection rules. They have been kicking active management's ass for years (including a lot of hedge funds). For example, there are many index funds that all track the same SP500 index that are maintained by different companies. Because its mostly computers and robots, the fees are substantially less (<0.1% annual).
ETFs are modeled after index funds as baskets of stocks, bonds, whatever that track a particular security. And those securities just need to be "cash equivalent" so they can be proxied with "shares" onto the exchange. These can be bought or sold through the day like a stock. SPY is the most heavily traded ETF in the world that tracks the SPX (index fund of the SP500). But these can be niche and contain more advanced securities (the main ones being shorts and futures). Sometimes the ETF's target asset and strategy is so complicated to undertake that the fees can approach regular mutual funds.

>>20108265
>>20108286
>>20108309
Never read or watched the manga but she was the cutest.

>>20108310
Only question is will ppl remember this come Monday ?

>>20108905
they are all cute
the things that Itsuki has going for her are:
1. lots of hair (very important)
2. youngest
3. she's a complete dork in the most adorable way

>>20108920
>trades only have a memory span of 2 days, they will forget everything on Monday

>>20108768
Looks like they all lose money. FRAK is down 50% just this year, it’s even worse the further you go back.

>>20108901
Thanks. what I really like about mutual funds is that I can just throw money at them every month more easily than ETFs. With ETFs I have to buy whole shares of them, which admittedly complicates my strategy of throwing-money-at-shit-every-month slightly more complicated. also I'm just lazy. If I want to 25% TQQQ 25% SPY 50% whatever else I gotta really bust out the calculator and blah blah, assuming the monthly $ amount I want to invest is fixed.

What’s going to happen with GRAF on Monday? Please don’t tell me I’m fucked. Also, happy Fourth of July, bros. We’re all going to make it—-except for bearfags.

>>20108843
Virtually nothing whatsoever. In 2020, that was $58,657 so far. Not a typo.

how much does /smg/ trust china?

>>20108987
>Thanks. what I really like about mutual funds is that I can just throw money at them every month more easily than ETFs
/smg/ is trader focused, not investor focused. There are a lot of good and bad reasons as to why.
That said, mutual funds are kind of slowly going on the way out because of how much they consistently lose to index funds. There are a few superstars every once in a while but its increasingly becoming more about luck than talent. And those fees add up over time. It is counterintuitive to most people that for most people the dumbest and best return is a passive index fund. There is a pernicious and persistent belief that you need to spend more to make more (perpetuated by MFs themselves). So whatever MFs you are looking at, compare how they perform against the SP500 or SPY.
The last MF I ever held was BFOCX. If you need a MF for a 401k matching scheme, try looking into that for a start.I am not sure if its still performing as well as I remember.

>>20109052
I trust jews more than chinks

>>20108987
Nothing wrong with MF. I use two SWTSX & SWPPX. 5 yr avg returns are 11.27% and 12.84% One's a total market fund while the other is S&P. Hell the one everyone flaunts, VTSAX is a MF.

>>20109063
if you had to fuck one would you choose a jewish woman or a chinese woman?

>>20109064
Literally everything wrong with mutual funds.
>>>/r/etardoland
Don't come back, this is for people who know what they're talking abut.

>>20109056
>>20109064
so I just found out that Fidelity allows you to buy fractional shares of stocks and ETFs so that solves my I-want-to-dollar-cost-average problem..seems like I can DCA into ETFs with Fidelity. And yes the more I read the more I get confirmation that mutual funds are heading out the door. thank you all, opening a Fidelity account

>>20109071
Jewish because of khazar milkers

>>20109052
Because I trust them to pump a stock that I can ride up for quick gains before it dumps like the sham it is.

>>20109071
>>20109118
not sure ur gonna need khazar milkers where were going

>>20108662
>>20109056
>/smg/ is trader focused, not investor focuse
No

>>20109151
>small tits in a push up bra
>we don’t need milkers lmao
Fuck outta here

>>20109110
>Mutual funds
these have always seemed like a boomer scam to me. Has there ever been a mutual fund that outperformed the market? It just seems like a way to collect commissions on idiots with no actual accountability.

>>20109071
id choose your mom

>>20109177
based and redpilled, dubs confirm

im kind of worried that the balance sheet is going in the wrong direction
wtf is Powell thinking
?

>>20109071
A jewish milk truck

>>20109168
>Has there ever been a mutual fund that outperformed the market?
Literally never, and that's before expenses. Plenty of research about that. Mutual funds are literal scams.

Who else here is getting rich off SOLO Monday?

>>20109151
why are you posting me here

>>20109211
Also, as a community can we promise to start posting more milkers in these threads? I love when I come here to talk stock and also get to see some quality milk bags.

>>20109118
>>20109205
Would it feel nice to convert a jewish girl into a breeding machine made to take as much semen as possible and make babies?

>>20109222
hola bb chan

that pic related is me on my laptop

>>20109168
It's due to the conditions of the run up. There are reasons for price action other than line, and newbies need to learn that "japanifcation" isn't some strawman nor a BS argument. The economic conditions following 90s Japan are the ones that we may be entering. Based on how indexes work, index funds may return something like 4% over the next 10 years. No one can tell the future, but the things often mirror the past. America isn't Japan, but the conditions we're entering are likely stagflation or japanifcation.

>>20109158
Thread right now is EV swing traders. I don't anyone is actually going to "BUY AND HODL" because they are all expecting corrections.

>>20109230

>>20108286
this borger!

>Fractional share trading is available through the Fidelity mobile app, only

jesus christ WHY?? fuckers

>>20109251
yes mr bezos

i will accumulate my fraction of a share now

>>20109241
>I don't anyone is actually going to "BUY AND HODL" because they are all expecting corrections.
What? There’s a lot of anons holding the HORSE for the long term.

>>20109210
kek, then why does almost everyone say "VTSAX stack it up" etc then? It's a MF. Hell all those target date funds are MF. VTI & VTSAX have the same fees you know.. The only diff really is you gotta have least 3000 at minimum to toss in VTSAX.

>>20109238
Imagine being so clinically retarded you believe mutual funds will have non-negative returns under these conditions even before expenses, let alone after their absolutely pants-on-head retarded expenses.

>>20108265
Who wants to suck my cock?

>>20109168
>Has there ever been a mutual fund that outperformed the market?
BFOCX
>>20109238
If you suspect Japanification, you'd run for bonds and gold.

>>20109266
Literally not a single person in the entire history of /smg/ has ever even so much as mentioned vtsax, literal inbred moron.

>>20109276
Who pays you?

>>20109266
People separate index funds and mutual funds and you (should) know that.

>>20109276
>>20109301
For these outrageously transparent lies?

With all this EV hysteria, I hope you guys have been buying your nickel stocks.

Can't make EV batteries without some high grade nickel.

>>20109338
hey atleast they carry tesla batteries on my $ship

maybe that will boost it .5 cents

;[

>>20109301
>dotcom bubble
It's been doing well since then.

>>20109338
Shill me some nickel stocks, Anon.

>>20109351

FPX Nickel, friendo.

kek I figured it up. The exact amount in fees I'll pay out after 30 long years. 2,560.83. Yes, just a bit over 2500 in fees after 30 long years. At first your like whoa that's a lot. But consider this: As I've said before, your typical starbucks loving person blows 1200 a year on coffee alone.. So after 30 years that coffee habit would run 36,000. Spending 2500 looks damn right puny in comparison

>>20109349
Better than SPY, far worse than QQQ. Not to mention the expense ratio of almost 2%.

>>20108728
>DCA
what is that?

>>20109420
>>20109349
BFOCX for the same period.

>>20109425
Dollar cost averaging, aka pyramiding, aka if you want to buy 1k shares, you buy in smaller lot, say 100 shares 10 times, distributed across time, so that if the price goes down you buy a bunch for cheap which lowers your cost basis.

>>20109448
ah, i knew the concept, just not familiar with the abbreviation. Thanks anon.

>>20109448
Oops, slight issue with the date range for QQQ. Corrected here.

will market cunnify down or up on Monday?

Hey there autists- retard here, I’m trying to get better at “”predicting”” trends, since it’s literally the entire basis of stocks and I suck ass at it. I’ve been trying to look up company-related news, and if it’s good/bad I invest accordingly- since I assume that’s how most of the market functions.

Does it work? Does that make me a sheep? How do pros gather news for their investments?

Thanks frens

>>20109462
Let's just say you're gonna see a lot of smug Bobo memes come Monday morning.

>>20109372
any other choices?

>>20109345
I would like to take a soft damp washcloth and scrub off their faces...

>>20109420
>it beats two of the big three indexes the index but not ALL of the indexes
Most of the posters in this general could hope to be so lucky.
Your instant kneejerk rage makes no sense. I haven't bothered with MFs since 2016 but there are 401k's that basically require some MFs in the portfolio. Might as well pick one that survived the worst tech bubble collapse (so far) and then 2 separate crashes.

>>20109479
You said that last weekend too

>>20109479

>>20109482
Go be retarded somewhere else.
>>>/out/
>>>/trash/

>>20109494
>move goalposts
Nice one, champ.

>>20109462
If there is a pullback it’s because of profit taking. TVIX is doing pretty meh at EOD Thursday.

>>20109480
Not any I'm in.

But you can look at Giga Metals or Canada Nickel Company.

FPX has the best shot for major gains imo.

>>20109488
Well, just look at how the market behaved Thursday on incredible news. Came way off its high and just ended only light green. Now there we have a lull in economic news so things might get stagnant. Plus mount Rushmore might get RPG'd tonight or something. Stay tuned.

>>20109502
I accept your surrender.

>>20109477
There's nothing really set in stone, no systems or rules really. 99% of people trying to sell you some sort of system or method are just con artists (the people actually doing it are out there doing it, not selling courses). Everyone at the end of the day is just kind of winging it. I think combining TA with what you're doing is generally pretty well rounded. There's a lot a chart can tell you, but there's also a lot that CEO interviews, press releases and general news can tell you as well.

I dont think you'll see insane gains, but that seems like a pretty responsible investment strategy to use while you get your feet wet. But most publicly traded companies dont 10x in a year, so I wouldn't get delusions of grandeur or anything, just look at it as a way to maintain your money while (hopefully) outperforming inflation and the market in general.

>>20109462
>>20109479
Tech will continue to rally to absurd highs making us all rich.

if oil and REITs aren't bouncing back by August I'm gonna kms

Is SOLO a meme?

Am I going to make it?

>>20109587
HODL. They'll bounce back by August 2021.

cash secured puts on nikola
y or n?
the premiums on it is insane but they're also ran on smoke and dreams.

>>20109594
It's a cuckmobile. Their roadster looks good but I think it's 100% vaporware.

>>20109587
Oil never bounces back anon. Look at all time chart

>>20109621
Do you want to own NKLA?

>>20109477
"pros" for the most part don't actually play the stock market. They get insider knowledge or literally hack into various places to get an edge like that institution did a few weeks ago, or they have such large starting capital they just outright buy the company on their own or contact other shareholders and together pressure the company using their sharepower, like buffett did (he ganged together with other major shareholders and forced a company to sell all its assets and give the proceeds to the shareholders, knowing that the assets were worth more than the market cap of the company).
Otherwise, what >>20109545 says is correct. TA works fairly well to find an entry point but it's everything else (news, sentiment, story, products, management, and such) that decide how well a company will do. How to get ahold of that information or how to analyze it is something every investor or trader keeps secret.
Just don't fall for the value investing meme or other boomer shit, it's as dumb as trying to invest the same way today as if it was the start of the greatest bullrun ever we've seen end in february. Market conditions change all the time and whatever you do must be adapted to the current market.

>>20109614
>>20109630
stop it

Should I put $10k in VZ as a dividend stock and have it reinvest or are there better dividend stocks out there?

>>20109656
Were you all in on oil before the dip? If not what's the big deal. It's just been crabbing since 'rona started

Are there optimal portfolio ranges for different types of trading? For example, I've read that options are a good way to build small portfolios, and recently I've been doing well building from 1k to about 5k as of friday, but is there a good time to jump off of options and just doing stocks?

>>20109674
no I bought near the top in early June. yes I'm retarded

>>20109241
>Thread right now is EV swing traders
This is why you need your own thread

>>20109587
Why would you buy oil not realizing we are in a multi-year dump and crash.

friday was correction for euro markets so monday will be correction for us markets? Euro markets won't continue to collapse right bros...?

I bought microsoft on friday after realizing it never goes down.

>>20109276
Gold fits both scenarios and has been my choice. Corp and gov Bonds have fallen angel risk and Corp Bond are yeilding too low.

>>20109715
because I'm retarded and didn't realize.

>>20108782

shut up kike

>>20109668
T. Higher yield. More Divvy for your dollar. 10000/29 per; 344 shares @ 7% yield at 0.52 x 4

>>20109621
My method for playing these is to sell exactly
floor(maxrisk / ((strike - premium - floortarget) * 100)) puts, selecting the maximum available total premium (as the above value * premium * 100) as the favored one, and nothing with less than 1:2 RR. If I can't sell outright, I set a limit sell at that target if it's within the bid-ask range, and give up (or keep watch) otherwise. If that value is <= 0, it means the put you're looking at should not be touched.
maxrisk = max amount of money you want to risk in this trade. I usually set that between 2-5% of my entire portfolio. floortarget = minimum value you believe the stock will ever reach. For example, I believe this is 0.3 for nxtd, 10 for wkhs, and 1.5 for gnus. You might notice my estimates are very conservative.
For example, I sold 50 puts on nxtd with premium 1.9 each and a strike of 2.5. My maxrisk was $1500, my targetfloor was 0.3. floor(1500 / ((2.5 - 1.9 - 0.3) * 100)) = 50.
The current price of nxtd is now 0.5775. If I get exercised, I will lose $112.5 at present assuming I sell as soon as I receive the stock. In practice, this is somewhat unlikely to happen due to the slim margin for the high cost the buyer paid.
Similarly, I sold 17.5 puts on wkhs when it was worth ~$12, which are currently worth upward of $6000 should I close the position now.
Win some, lose some, but as long as your winrate and risk management checks out, it's a great strat.

>>20109768
Buy ktov monday at open, goy. You can't blame us jews on missing out on this rocket ship, oy vey!

So happy when WKHS hits 30 next week. Double my green.

>>20109746
SELL
E
L
L

>>20109749
Well at least you are honest with yourself. Oil will continue to have issues with supply for possibly decades. Frac and tight shale is just too easy to drill and too easy to bring to market now. Anytime there is a demand surge or slow down in supply it will fix within the month now.

>>20109746
Based

>>20109695
What?
The best strategy is a mixed one. You use stocks as a base and then hedge or write cc against them. Options have their place, supplementing stocks.

Pretty bullish right now. Roth account has been in QQQ since April, still holding. Also playing calendars, iron condors and strangles. Crushing the market again.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/covid-19-jobs-tracker-layoffs-furloughs-and-hiring-during-the-pandemic-1.1417086

i put semen in the anime girls burgers dont tell them

>>20108279
Buy more friend. I have 12k horsies in the stable.

>>20109695
Buying options is like getting leveraged stocks that react also to time expiry, volatility, and other factors. If you can't make use of these factors, or if you can't mitigate these factors while retaining the leverage, the option is bad and the stock would be better. If the stock is very volatile but you have no information about it, except you hope in an uncertain future it will go up, getting options is usually not a good idea because it's easy to get an option that expires a month before the stock moons. However if you have extra information and you're fairly certain of when the stock will moon, options reduce risk and increase upside through the leverage.
Another set of strategies involve reducing your cost basis for a stock you want to own, such as with the Wheel strategy.
People who say options are good for building small portfolio basically say you should gamble. Don't listen to them for the most part. You have won this time, and with $5k you should have about enough to start building an actual trading or investment position instead of gambling.
The strategy described in >>20109886 is very safe and I don't like it, but if you really really like a specific stock, it's a good way to go. For example, I think you'd leave a lot on the table, but it's a fairly sane play to get 100 NET and sell covered calls from there.

>>20109941

>>20109308
Index fund is just a subset of mutual funds. But either a mutual fund or an ETF can be an “index fund”. Though an index can be literally anything they want to track. So even though it’s passive it still reflects somebody’s opinions and choices.

>>20109477
That doesn’t work. Good news that is already predicted to happen is already priced in. Same with bad. That’s why a company can have great Earnings and the stock doesn’t move ... analysts already knew it would happen. The stock market isn’t about good or bad it’s about supply and demand and expectations of the future. It’s expectations of expectations. Keynes likened the stock market to a beauty pageant where each judge was trying to pick the woman who the OTHER judges would pick to win. It’s about predicting other people’s expectations for the future and then how they will shift up or down over time.

>>20108529
Daily reminder that adding funds to your account causes the graph to change exactly the same way that gains do. Chances that this anon is full of shit is very high.

>>20109975
I mean long term investing should be based around a stable core of shares that you like. QQQ, SPY, V, whatever. Using options should not be the main event of your portfolio, but something you do for extra profits.
Whatever form that takes, covered calls to buying options on earnings, is up to the person.
As you seem to agree to.

>>20110180
For investing, that's right. For trading there are tradeoffs between getting options and swinging the underlying which depend on market conditions and understanding of the underlying.

>>20109545
>>20109648
>>20110048
Thanks frens- it means a lot. What are the legal boundaries on what makes and breaks insider trading? Obviously bigs can get away with whatever they want- but knowledge is power, and certainly even a little bit of information can form an expectation of a trend

>>20110177
Exactly.
>>20108529
Post actual trades if true.

>>20110201
To add to this- what are some unconventional methods of acquiring information that still exist in the boundaries of legality?

>>20109746
What are some other solid stocks that you can count to never decline? I think $WM is one of them.

>>20108383
If you succeed you tell everyone. If you dumped 20k into SPCE Calls at 40$ then you better be silent about it forever.

Most people here are not day traders. We have many swing traders, long term investors, the theta crew and the pump and dump memers. The memers are probably the closest we have to actual day trading for the most part.

Day trading takes a long time to master and actually making money over years, not weeks, so making money based on skill not luck, is something the fewest people achieve.

msnbc better not tank the market with their fake "record new cases in all 50 states"

bullshit

>>20110224
>$WM
oh wow, yeah, look at that chart.
And it's got some room to grow back from the covid thing too.

>>20110198
Fair enough
>>20110201
>What are the legal boundaries on what makes and breaks insider trading?
People who are smart
-----The line------
People who brag about their money and go to jail

Just being silent seems to be enough most of the time.

>>20110215
There are no legal aspect to insider trading whatsoever. However, so long as nobody flaps their mouths, nothing can be proven and therefore you're free to be rich

>>20109587
'kumulate more stocks

what will be the new high that WKHS makes next week bros ? $30 possible ?

>>20109746
Good call, I just hope you don't decide what to buy based solely on the chart.
But yeh, 35% of my portfolio is on MSFT

Quick rundown on $LMND?

>>20108309
>>20108286

>>20108632
thanks reuters
very cool

Things to consider as covid cases rise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7xzjd583uo

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3
>Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2-reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40%–60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating “common cold” coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.

Layman explainer
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/15/good-news-on-the-human-immune-response-to-the-coronavirus

>>20110245
It’s a pretty sexy stock
It’s like a utility, so it’s got that desirable quality of consistency and that it will likely never go to zero, and it’s got cyclical exposure so it improves when there’s more construction activity.


>20108055
>We can not have the economy locked down for long periods of time, not just because most Americans can not survive such a harsh time, but because civil unrest will build up and then everyone is out on the streets again.
Under-appreciated point.
Not sure if it’s just Americans, but people are getting it backwards when they think the riots and protests were caused by Floyd’s killing.

>>20110398
The deadlier strings of the virus will die out ans leave the harmless flu strings. Just basic evolution really. Cant reproduce when you kill the host and have meds to fight after all.

Same happened to Sars

>>20109233
Look at all that plastic lmao look her nose can come right off like a mr.potato head ahaha

>>20110340
My calls hope so. 30 next week would be excellent.

>>20110177
already unloaded the options

>>20110434
It's likely a multitude of factors, including the one you cited. The question is how long can the hysteria be drawn out as deaths decline.

>>20108632
That was known about before trading Thursday and didn't move the ticker at all. Stop shilling a pennystock as a long.

>>20110462
Faggots made because I’m making gains

>>20109648
>literally hack into various places to get an edge like that institution did a few weeks ago
Are you talking about last year’s BOE audio feed scandal?

>>20110508
There was another one several weeks ago but that's another good example.

>>20110240
honestly anon just tell me, why do you like asian girls? Especially k-pop stars they just don't look human to me. What is the appeal to you? Do you enjoy the music visit korea etc?

>>20110530
I haven’t heard about it, got any more details or an article?

>>20108374

Trust in Israel

>>20110434
only one notable mutation has occurred and it made it more virulent. It has no reason to become less deadly when it already has a two week contagious incubation period, itll spread very well. And sars didn't mutate to become less deadly, it was so deadly and not particularly contagious that it just burned itself out

>>20110545
When I try to look it up on google it just spams me with automated covid shit, despite the complete and total lack of any relationship between the two topics.

>>20110541
white girls are extinct

if there was skinny attractive young white girls people would be posting them but theyre not available to the public . thats like .0000001% of earth

buying more workhorse!

>>20110552
So where are the deaths?

>two more weeks bro

>>20110582
she looks like she was built for horses

>>20110603
Its infecting mostly young people now instead of running trains on old folks homes

>>20110574
I'm going out with an Asian girl tonight and I want to get sushi, but at the same time I don't want to be the stereotypical white tall nerdy guy taking a yellow girl to get sushi...
I think I'm still going to do it if they're open though. she isn't Japanese (I think)

>>20110434
The question is how long would it take for that. They found that the virus was already in Spain since march 2019. One year later it killed a lot of people

>>20110643
>After lying about everything else involving the virus, this time the WHO is telling the truth

>>20110633
Sushi is a good first date. You can talk about tastes and look at interesting sushi designs (if its the kind of place that does that). I took my Taiwanese fiancee on a date to a cheap sushi place for our first restaurant date, because she had previously asked me if I knew any good cheap sushi places around.

>>20110613
So you are indeed stating that in two more weeks we'll have a couple hundred thousand dead 20-something year olds?

I just like doing pulse checks on you chankoro shills every two days or so. I've been making a collage of your lies and bullshit that I think will be very humorous by the end of the year.

>>20110648
What does the WHO have to do with an study from Barcelona's university

>>20110643
>They found that the virus was already in Spain since march 2019.
wait what
that's fuccin wild bro
how can they know?

>>20110649
it's a sushi place that I really really like
actually if I'm honest I've never been to a sushi place that I didn't like

>>20110704
It has been found in Barcelona's residual waters. They tested them from various months and found it in march's 2019.

The virus doesn't do shit in summer. Nobody noticed. I seriously think the fucking chinks released it then because it was stealthy during those months or something

>>20110633
With the last asian chick I dated I asked her to come over to play video mario kart and ordered pizza...within an hour we were watching hentai while she was going down on me.

Stereotypes exist for a reason desu

>>20110767
I don't think it's gonna work out like that for me
The plan is dinner at 630/7, fireworks at 9, then at best she can get 5-10 minutes of USDA select medium-rare dick before I have to kick her out for movie night (10PM my time)

>>20110767
The stereotype there being that men who go after Asian girls like hentai?

Im nervous and really mad anons! There are a few stocks I wanted to go all in on and just hold Thursday night. Except stock market was closed Friday. I've been nervous since then knowing they could jump in price by Monday making it harder to get in cheaper. At the same time they could have a hard drop and give me a better entry. Either way I'm nervous having to WAIT!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO BE RICH SO I DON'T HAVE TO WAGEKEK AND SO MY SIBLINGS DON'T HAVE TO WAGEKEK!!!!!!! HAD I GONE ALL IN LAST WEEK RATHER THAN PLAYING IT SAFE I'D BE AT 6 FIGURES ALREADY (FROM 5 FIGURES)!!!!!!!!!!

>>20110551
Details? They seem worthwhile but are on the brink of being delisted which is a major turnoff.

>>20110820
Sorry sir, thursday was the top and the last time any opportunity ever existed. Only sideways from here. +-0% till at least 2035

>>20109230
That’s literally your biological imperative.

The only thing more rewarding would be to do that with as many women as physically possible, but unless you’re a 11/10 in female desirability and also rolled top stats in success and charisma, that path isn’t available.

>>20108335
>yfw that ps4 has thousands of cockroaches in it
Still, nice

>>20110665
Whoever taught you to read needs to be fired. I'm saying it isnt killing as many people because it isnt infecting as many vulnerable people any more you dipshit

>>20110884
no god put it inside a human to only have 1 partner you would start to feel guilty if you had multiple partners

adultery

>>20110820
>they could jump in price by Monday making it harder to get in cheaper.
There is no price variation in a day that you will notice over 5-10 years of holding as an investment. Stop panicking anon.

I dont respect women, lads.

You ARE buying gold and silver stocks in preperation for the great bull run aren't you anons?

>>20110806
>movie night
What’s playing?
>>20110912
Based

>>20110923
I have physical gold. Just a few kgs but enough to buy when that great dip of the heavens should ever arrive.

>>20110906
God doesen't exist.

>>20110996
then where did the world come from and your brain and body come from

if u look into it its the Jewish god from the bible who put all this together

>>20110871
this is true
the equity mesa

>>20110966
>just a few kgs
bro
post a pic goddamn
no one out here is stacking kilos

>>20110507
You made all of your gains on one pump. Had you stated that at the outset no one would have cared.

>>20111067
Don’t you hate it when girls do cosplays that have the completely wrong body type?
This girl does not have the thighs for that, and she looks too old as well.

>>20110923
Shill us on some miners. What are your favorites.

>>20110806
Probably won't turn out like my situation desu

You seem to care about the girl...which is good. The world needs nice guys.

I always women as a quick piece of ass and to bang as many as possible without impregnating them.

The trick to banging a lot of women is to treat them like trash. Sounds counterproductive but 90% of the time it works. If you fall in love, it will probably not work out or you'll be taken advantage of.

God fucking damnint I wish I had more nio. I am thinking about liquidating bioc and putting it there.

Idk I think I need to keep my money spread out like this. I only have 216 nio and I will be sad once its 60 that I didnt do it.

>>20111045
Humans evolved from apes, which evolved from gibbons whcih evolved from... etc etc.

We have evidence that the world has existed long before humans have ever, the fact that you can drive your car and use fossil fuels is pretty good evidence. This contradicts like 90% of religons which state that god created the world and humans at the same time (Along with the rest of flora and fauna.

Although i don't really care people can believe whatever they want, USA was founded on the freedom of religon (Even though im from the UK) to i feel like we should all be educated on the facts however and trying to avoid the facts is ignorance.

>>20111067
Dont have any pictures. Only one from when I sold a few coins

>>20111122
i used to watch this guy named kent hovind he taught a long time ago how the earth is 6000 years old and all that fossils and stuff is just a lot newer than they say it is

and oil can be made rapidly in the earth theres apologetics for every question

you have been tricked by satan in the school system which starts you off with a fake globe when the earth is flat starting from genesis 1

Does pump-n-dump stock spam still happen?

>>20111118
I can't trash this girl immediately because she works at the same place as me
also she's really into me (or at least pretending) which feels good as fuck on my ego ;^)

>>20111189
what is Kent up to these days? he's out of jail now...

>Franfurt stock market is managed by idiots
>New computer system collapses all the time
>Last time a few days ago
>For three full hours
>Germans decide that it works so well that the system will be used for Frankfurts Eurex as well
>Europes derivative market now running on a system that constantly goes rogue
Lol

Im a Bull Boii Yeah Im a bull boii
Motsureru ashi dakedo mae yori
Zutto sou, tooku eeeeeee

>>20111112
GOLD, MYA.TO, PAAS, EDV.TO and SVM are some of the particular bags I like to hold. Really I just go for a mix of big and small producer and a mix of nations where the mines are located.

>>20111245
Now yes. During the rona times allwe talked about was "the market", then we went back to good stocks and now the "BUY SHIMPA THERAPEUTICS!" or ">Not having 100k in Shiggy Diggy Pharmaceuticals" are back.

Though they now have their own general, which is nice

cunnybros...

I'm slowly realising leaving x20 leveraged CFDs over the weekend was a bad idea

If covid deaths don't start spiking soon we're going to get a pop in certain sectors, specifically cruise lines, hotels, airlines. A rise in cases with deaths falling will only depress markets for so long, medium term the trend, if it continues, is bullish. Every case that isn't a death is an inoculation.

>>20108383
>I see you guys making money

>>20110871
>>20110911
No i wanted to make it financially!!!! It has great potential and every day waiting has the potential to miss out on thousands of gains(throwing in tens of thousands makes every few pennies of movement a large change)!!! Had i not doubted myself Id be near a 2x at this point!!!!!! Id be at 6 figures!!!!!!+ 6 figures!!!!

>>20111118
kek, reminds me of a buddy of mine. Different girl every week it seemed. Somehow he managed to avoid the kiddie trap though, don't know how considering the number of girls he had. You'd have thought his luck would've ran out at some point.

>>20111299
So if I scrape /ptg/ and digest the posts into spam volume, I could do what those MIT dudes at DEFCON did and try to legally ride their pump-n-dump.

>>20111306

>>20111387
When you sit in front of the screen on monday you will waver. You will see a red number and think "Oh, what if it goes down?" and if its green you will think "Its already so high!"

The big brains buy long term no matter a +/-2% daily swing up or down. Not because it wont make a difference long term, but because they are not some fucking commie bastards that do not believe in America.

>>20111422
Just do it on r/wallstreetbets. There has been a correlation between pumps and their posts.

>>20109587
Anon don't kill yourself! I don't want you being eternally damned. Read the Holy Bible, I recommend starting from the New Testament. Jesus Christ who is God came to the world to save us from sin, from eternal damnation. He died on the cross, yet 3 days later He rose from the grave claiming victory over sin and death. Believe in Jesus Christ, gain everlasting life. I pray my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ helps thee overcome the darkness that swallows you whole. Don't kill yourself anon.

>>20111392
I usually just rotate 3 girls at the time throughout the week on any given week.

One day im 99% certain one will murder me desu

>>20111422
I dont know. Try.
Just je aware that none of them have any idea and are often bagholding incredible amounts. Its always funny when you see wave riders turn into ""long term investors"" because they "believe" in the product of some company with 20 employees and 10 million in cash

>>20111189
By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox

-Galileo Galilei

I don't mind going to hell, i treat people with respect and kindness and will continue living this way. I just want a good life, i respect your beliefs too even if i don't neccesarily find a Christian fundamentalist evangelist a good source of information (Albeit he might be very charismatic), were your born into a family with the same beliefs?

>>20111461
Isnt that boring as fuck? You just have sex without any connection. Havent done that in quite some time because it was soul crushing to see just how empty that fucking was

47% of my portfolio is in DAL. Green bags will be mine in time.. Considering the price of DAL was 58 not long ago.. Might buy more next week.

Gentlemen, it has been a privilege playing this market with you. However on Monday, I'll be the first on the life boats.

>>20109971
I wish I could buy more but all of my money is already in the worse. I could potentially buy more this Thursday when I get paid but it might be too much by then. I’m happy with my horse gains either way.

>>20111189
Also just an added point, the christian god is omnibenevolent, i believe any god who is all loving would allow any soul, believer or non who is a good citizen into heaven.

>>20111504
Only crab from here desu.

>>20111504
Wise decision m8.

>>20111472
science is fake they just tell you whatever they want you to think in the science book

theyre not independently verifying things to get to atheism

i had to grow up as a agnostic thinking evolution was real and find out on my own the bible was exposing all the bullshit lies we are fed

nobody in my family is christian

>>20111523
We shall see...

>>20111532
Doesa that mean they're selling assets off for a profit now?

I'm not saying there is, I ain't saying there ain't but my own thing is that God don't exist, or at least what everyone considers to be God at any rate. Just a made up concept to keep the masses in line thanks to the church. Your born, you die. That's it really. What you do in the middle is frankly shit mostly to pass the time. You spend a vast amount of your life dealing with shit or taking care of shit as it happens. There's only two parts of life where you're free of responsibility, childhood and to a lessor degree, after retirement. After retirement the kids are gone (if any), the house is paid for so one less bill to pay and no more daily grind of work to fuck with.

HELLO

When people see negative earnings on every company will the market even care?

Did the SEC allow for removal of any deficits by claiming them as liabilities procured from the Fed?

>>20111763
this poster watches rick and morty

>>20111814
Will it stop the Fed from buying?
If no, then whatever. Up we go.

>>20111834
Will it stop your mom from selling her butthole to strangers on the corner?

>>20111540
Explain how evolution is bs, considering evidence for it is dripping from every cell in your body.

>>20111261
EU is also going to be mandating their own payment processing network because "fuck America" they don't want Visa and Mastercard running them anymore. Seeing as the EU is an even worse running government than America yet exercises more authoritarian controls over its populace it's going to be so fucking funny reading about blackouts of no one able to buy anything for hours or perhaps days at a time because their shitty network collapses constantly.

>>20111555
It means the printing is slowing down... Time to see if the market can stand on its own 2 feet.

BAKING

>>20112021
>printing is slowing down
Triple circuit breaker on Monday

>>20111798
>>20111898
>>20112039
>BAKING
oh this will go swimmingly

>>20111922
it is a theory

>>20111898
Probably not
>>20111976
You will never replace Visa and Mastercard. Its like trying to tell people and companies to use Linux. No chance.

>>20112058
Don’t you complain now

>>20112098
don't make a shit thread and we'll be okie dokie

>>20111763
he exists, he just goes by the name Sun now

>>20110912
No one does. Even the cuckiest, ultra-'progressive' NGO volunteer doesn't respect women deep inside.

NEW

>>20112116
>>20112116
>>20112116
>>20112116

>>20111121
How can you be so sure NIO is mooning to 60 dawg?

>>20112126
The bump limit on /biz/ is 310 posts.

>>20111922
>common genetic code

98% of our genome correlates to fucking rice plants or some shit, if you are conflating fact with theory

I understand the complexities of genetic code and expression well enough and it means nothing to me when it comes to evolution. God made us so we hardly have the intellect to understand prime numbers let alone the dance of complex biological molecules.