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20062715 No.20062715 [Reply] [Original]

Less than 2k sats right now. Get in while you can! We are going to $1 this year, which at this point would 400x your money if you went all in. Potential for $10-25 in 2021. Hell could be the next ETH and go even higher into the hundreds by 2025. At that point you wouldn't care too much since you'd have made huge gains already because you went all in today. Right anon? You are going to go all in today?

There's a reason why Link marines have sold partial stacks to come on board at this time. Development phase is over for XSN. It's being put to the test and the DEX is excelling. This is like Google coming onto the scene and changing the way search engines work. Or Amazon changing online shopping.

Come on anons. This is the time to make it. Anons building stacks don't get mad at me for spreading the word right now. I think other anons deserve to hear the good news. To rejoice at never being a wageslave ever again. Go get it!

>> No.20062805

Not going to lie, their interface on stakenet is pretty sleek. Trying to build up for a masternode. Feels like a make it coin along with dmg and link. What is the make it stack for xsn?

>> No.20062909

FUCK THIS SCAM

BUY SORA (XOR)

https://v2.uniswap.exchange/swap/0x40FD72257597aA14C7231A7B1aaa29Fce868F677

>> No.20062922

>>20062805
for almost any coin that's 10k but for xsn right now it's 15k. the reason is you need enough to run a masternode (15k), which is guaranteed monthly income. so exciting because the DEX is essentially a new and improved trading platform that will set the standard in the crypto world

>> No.20062927

Pump and dump scam. Avoid!!!!!

>> No.20062963

>>20062909
>>20062927

I see some XSN whales have arrived to keep the price down. the last two days is the first time xsn has pumped in almost two years because it was in a development phase. this is the next link blowup reminiscent to what link went through in 2019. it's coming and you can feel it. other anons deserve an opportunity

>> No.20062988

>>20062922
Your dubs confirm this might be a winner....livecoin the only place to buy?

>> No.20063054
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>>20062988
anon...your dubs confirm you'll make it if you get 15k xsn. not sure if Livecoin is the only place to buy but it's the best place right now so just use it. transfer some btc or eth over, then transfer to your wallet on stakenet, and enjoy the ride

>> No.20063134

Would 2 masternodes be enough to make it?

>> No.20063143

>>20063054
Thanks anon

>>20062805
Missed the boat on Sora but feels like a pnd. Xsn feels legit with a real team behind it

>> No.20063255

>buy MN for $3k
>6.68*365 days= $2438
>original stack worth 15k
>3,000*400=17,438
Wery nice o'p. And if it goes to $2 that's a 69,420x. It's basically free money, nevermind the guy looks just like that guy from bitconnect I'm sure it's just a twin except he's not a scammer.

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>>20063134
depends on how you want to live your life. one MN at $1B trading volume can net you $1100 in DAILY reward fees. Even half that volume is $500 in daily fees which is more than enough for passive income in a lot of areas

>> No.20063402

>>20063255
The value of XSN based on Masternode income.
Daily Volume: $1B
Trading Fees: $2.5M
To Masternodes: (90%) $2.25M
Burn (10%) $250k worth of XSN
Per MN: (Assuming 2000): $1125 per day

The value of 1 XSN = $1125*365/15000 XSN = $27.3 given the DEX runs at $1b volume per day

One masternode true worth: $409.5k
One masternode revenue from DEX: $410k per year per $1b volume on the DEX
Block rewards: $80k per year

Stakenet DEX is just one DApp on XSN, and DApps are only one aspect of the entire Stakenet project.

Imagine $2b volume, or $3b to beat Binance. But even with $250m volume, it's still sick.

Takeaway: An XSN masternode is not just a masternode, it's a BUSINESS.

>> No.20063451

>400x takes us to $1
Uh... you must be pretty confused there, anon.
$1 is about a 5x.
It'll do that before the end of the year for sure, but there's a chance it could break out to $5.
It's true resting point will probably be above $8, though.

It might go to about $80-$100 during the upcoming altseason spike.

>> No.20063481

>>20062715
Will you spend your profits cleaning your designated shitting street?

>> No.20063482

>>20063451
meant to say up 400% there ($.17 to $1) but definitely agree with you on EOY price

>> No.20063491

>>20063402
So, in this scenario, you're saying a single XSN coin = $27.3?
That's a bit high...

That puts us at around a $28bil MC...

>> No.20063498

>>20063481
no the streets around me are pretty pristine and wide as fuck. you can literally land a 737 on the boulevards in my uppity suburb if it wasn't for the overly landscaped medians

>> No.20063989

>>20063277
Damn the gets. Confirmed moon

>> No.20064063

>>20063491
won't happen this year but it will happen

>> No.20064121

>>20063491
>28bil MC
That would be higher than ethereum.
With raiden it could hit that with the effect of boosting eths value as well.

>> No.20064434

>>20064121
So exciting and looks like it's going up

>> No.20064514

>>20063491
2.8 billion, not 28

>> No.20064616

>>20064514
this too

>> No.20064757

>>20064514
kek
i guess sometimes it's good to be terrible at math...

>> No.20065032

>>20064757
happens to the best of us. now go buy more xsn before it pumps overnight

>> No.20065113

>>20065032
I'm half way to my second MN so I'm not doing terribly.

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20065902

>>20063054
kek

>> No.20065909

>>20062715
What's the market cap?
Is it lower than EPIC CASH?

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>>20065909
$18 million. you could open up 8 McDonalds locations with that!

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20066227

Nice stuff op.

>> No.20066242

>>20066227
Whoever made this image should be spanked with a wet wooden spoon. It's really terrible. I hope they feel really bad about it and get reminded of their shame every time it's reposted.

>> No.20066263

>>20066242
Cope.

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>>20066242
today i will remind them

>> No.20066309

>>20062715
>>20062805
samefag

>> No.20066355

>>20066263
There is no coping for it. It's almost like they were trying to make a really bad image. Even down to the 4th grade English mistakes. It's like pajeet lurked here for 20 minutes and then immediately opened up m$ Paint without knowing anything about the project. I guess it is meant to discourage people from investing?
>>20066290
Who are you reminding? What are you reminding this unspecified person of?

>> No.20066407

>>20066309
Let us again review the state of XSN fud in the year 2020
>h-hE USES a :D SMILEY
>xsn is one person
>t-they spoke GERMAN
>ya ttyl ranjesh. buy MOBIUS
>i can't read. am i the only one who finds this unsettling?
You'll just have to accumulate with the rest of us if your fud sucks this much

>> No.20066527

>>20066407
XSN will hit $1 easily.

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20066550

Higher res.

>> No.20066658

>>20066527
$10*

>> No.20066664

>>20062715
Xsn $100 2021

>> No.20066670

>>20066664
reroll

>> No.20066722

>>20063402
ABSOLUTE DELUSION.

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20066750

new bottom forming

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>>20066722
At first I thought so too but then someone brought up a really good point. This shit is a fucking money launderers wet dream, an unstoppable decentralised anon exchange. When they add Raiden and it gets ETH it also means ERC20 which means USDT. China, Russia, Iran and any other country with sanctions and shit will fucking love this shit to cut out traceable banking. Already there is a huge amount of trade done between China and Russia using USDT and this will make it even easier for them. Everyone knows USDT is sketchy and wonders where all this money comes from that is pumped into it, well I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume a lot of it comes from shall we say shady individuals. They love it because it can cross borders quickly, easily and largely anonymously. So no I don’t really think $1B in daily volume is out of the question.

Oh also Tether said they were working on adding LN natively to USDT which if they do then it will basically be integrated into the DEX by default without going through Raiden.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-usdt-russia-china-importers

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>>20062715
How much for a qt?

>> No.20067180

Even though I like XSN, the amount of new XSN treads popping up every second gives me LIT vibes..

>> No.20067551

What if I can't afford a MN. Any point other than just to hold and hope the price goes up?

>> No.20067683

>>20062909
>Calls XNS a scam
>Refers to a fucking uniswap noname
Man stop smoking this much

>> No.20068044

>>20067180
XSN's audience is undeniably hardcore. It's only going to make more noise overtime.
>>20067551
You can stake on the Cloud or setup TPoS depending on how much you have.

>> No.20068089

>>20067551
You can stake, it's a 13-14% ROI. Moreover when they finish CCPOS you can stake your XSN and receive your staking rewards in any currency you want. For example one could stake XSN and receive BTC, so in a way you're staking actual BTC there

>> No.20068251

>>20068089
With that cross chain proof of stake it’s kind of like you can stake anything just using XSN as the collateral which is very fucking cool.

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20069005

>>20068089
>>20068251
Don't forget about EPOS.
https://medium.com/stakenet/exertive-proof-of-stake-epos-4a999807f9e4

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>>20069005
EPOS is fucking alien tech. The future coming to rape CZ

>> No.20069173

Shill me this coin Pajeet. If i like it I'll throw 5k into it

>> No.20069208

>>20069173
Stakenet is the first lightning DEX. that means a contrario of other DEX they can offer instant swaps - > all the benefits of a CEX like binance.

Their DEX is already 90% done and available in public beta (anyone can join and test it by himself)

The DEX is lightning fast, have high liquidity thanks to vortex agregator, is 100% anonymous, no KYC, never. Low fees, DEX will be hosted by each Masternode on the network making it by analogy like a Hydra. cut one head two grow back, so that means no downtime, never. Once DEX is hosted by the Masternodes no one can stop it not even the devs.
Next milestones is Raiden integration which will allow to instant trade Eth and any erc20.
For other coins like monero etc.. That doesn't support Raiden or lightning, atomic swaps will be available.


In overall this DEX has all advantages of a CEX like binance with no KYC and you keep your keys at all time.

>> No.20069226

>>20069208
Ok thanks Prakesh. How much is a masternode?

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20069232

>>20069168
Microsoft has eyes on that industry.
>>20069173
You sound like the anon in pic related. No one wants to be that anon.

>> No.20069276

>>20069226
15k XSN fren

>> No.20069333

>>20069226
15k XNS exactly.
I decided to buy enough for a masternode myself last night.
Be my largest investment in crypto so far, sold like 50% of my portfolio to afford it hehe. Good luck frens

>> No.20069407

>>20069226
In case you wanna use their Masternode as a Service, buy a little more than 15k for paying those cloud hosting fees (4.5$/month)

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>>20069333
checked

>> No.20069742

I'm getting a bag. Thanks frens. Realistically how could this project fail?

>> No.20069990

>>20062715
>>20062922
>>20063255
>>20063402
>>20063402
Can Someone explain how the fuck is 0.18 to 1$ x400...

No fuding just don't get it, have 4k$ ready to buy it

>> No.20070183

>>20069990
He may have been meant next year

>> No.20070311

>>20069990
Thoses are speaking about possible income due to DEX fees (0.25%) allocated to masternode networks. Will depend on volume but it's highly possible.

>> No.20071295

>>20069990
He meant 400%. Which I think is realistic at this point. As everyone else has pointed out, if the DEX catches on it will be worth much more.

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20071452

core wallet installation, this is a meme right? 2 weeks to install?

>> No.20071483

>>20071452
it will accelerate. takes about 3-5 hrs to load the whole blockchain anon

>> No.20071503

>>20071452
Have you used the bootstrap?

>Close wallet
>Goto %appdata%/XSNCore
>Delete the two folders Blocks and Chainstate and the file peers.dat.
>Download the latest bootstrap from https://github.com/X9Developers/XSN/releases/ and extract the contents of the .zip into your XSNCore folder in roaming.

>> No.20072053

>>20071503
>>20071483
Thanks guys, pretty new to this type of stuff

>> No.20072652

>>20066930
Even $500mil makes us all rich.
Hell, if we get to $250mil, that's still enough to make most people quit waging for at least the next 10-15 years if they have a single MN and even then, we're only calculating for the block rewards and DEX rewards. There's still dApps, TOR integration and TPoS merchants.
But THEN there's the Viper router, which may in fact be an entirely different beast.

>> No.20073193

>>20069742
Look at it like this:
the rise in popularity of uniswap is more or less of a test for DEXs as a whole.
If XSN can grab as much daily volume as uniswap, it's going to fly off the handle and you're going to get ridiculous rewards in DEX fee rewards.
The big change between uniswap and XSN's DEX, though, is that XSN incorporates all of the other blockchain like BTC and its bitcoinalts, Monero, Dash, Litecoin, etc.

The only way this thing could realistically not pan out like /biz/ seems to think it will is if someone else does everything they're doing but better and unleashes it before them.
If no one accomplishes this (which... let's be realistic here, it's taken them a couple of years to get this far... so that won't happen), then we go to the moon, the price goes to around $20 pre-bull and stays there and you quit your day job and move to an expensive beach home in the summer and a beautiful mountain secluded lodge during the winter.

>> No.20073757

Fuck me fellow XSNchads, XSN is up so much I can't even withdraw enough to my core wallet to start the MN today, because that exceeds the daily 2k cap, well tomorrow it is then

>> No.20073836

>>20073757
DO NOT
I REPEAT
DO NOT keep your coins/tokens on exchanges

>> No.20073971

>>20073836
It's already on the cloud wallet staking, but I can't get enough to the core wallet because that exceeds that limit. It's defo no longer on livecoin

>> No.20074144

>>20073193
Stakenet can also develop another DAPP that mimics the Uniswap UX. This would also mean that liquidity would flow into Stakenet as traders will want to execute against liquidity providers on a cheaper, faster network.

>> No.20074389

>>20074144
ahhh
very good point
thanks for gracing us with your big brain, anon

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374568694690611204/727571497438150686/Stakenet_DEX_-_Binance_CEX_-_Vortex_Dual_S.mp4


https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/442721198024032257/727562848439500880/Hnet-image_7.gif

you guys seen this yet? legit.

>> No.20074445
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20074445

On a scale of 1-10 how much making it level is one Masternode?

>> No.20074504

>>20074445
It depends on how much volume the DEX gets, how many dApps (and how lucrative they are) deploy on the blockchain, how many utilize TOR, etc.

If it goes to just $2.5/XSN and we get something like $130 daily volume on the DEX, you should see somewhere close to 40k/year on the DEX rewards alone and something like 8-10k/year with block rewards.

Keep in mind, these are absurdly conservative estimates.

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>>20074445
masternodes are money making machines. I'd say 10/10. any more than than one masternode is extra luxury. so 2 MN is 11/10 etc

>> No.20074978

My biggest concern is that they haven't had updated for months. They've been around for years and on top of that if you look at the past few releases of the Dec on GitHub you can see they've bumped the version number but haven't actually added any code.

>> No.20075067
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>>20074978
they've been updating every single day sometimes multiple times a day. are you talking about core wallet?
>pic related

>> No.20075150

That 2017 pre pump feeling tho

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>>20074978
What are you talking about anon they are putting out nearly daily updated builds of the new wallet and DEX:

https://github.com/X9Developers/DexAPI/releases

Everyday when I start the wallet up pretty much the auto updater pings to say a new update is available.

Stop looking at that old ass core wallet, nobody cares about that it does what it needs to do so that’s why it doesn’t get touched. The new wallet is the future and will be what 99% of people use.

>> No.20075558

>>20062715
Im in. Willing to buy a stack.

What is running a node tho?

>> No.20075564

>>20073971
your 15k have to lay in the core wallet. only minimum 150xsn for the mn fees on the cloud

>> No.20075626

>>20075384
Do I need to use the Core wallet if I want to set up a Master Node or could I do it with the new one? (MNaaS)

>> No.20076413

>>20075626

You use the core wallet to deposit your 15k coins.

You use cloud.stakenet.io for setting up your node with MNaaS (masternode as a Service)

here an exemple

https://twitter.com/XSNofficial/status/1278378992417079296?s=20

>> No.20076526

>>20075626
https://youtu.be/x9_YdU8vWrU

>> No.20076660

>>20067180
But it's happening naturally. With the release coming very very soon, the threads have increased little by little. You can tell it's not a pump and dump and the news is real. Plus one of the original meme coins that wasnt as popular due to being in development. It is the 2020 link but with more potential since you can actually trade link on the final DEX

>> No.20077002

>>20071295
This. Going up about 400% to $1 is pretty much a guarantee when the DEX is released, and that's just this year

>> No.20077149

>>20075150
ARISE CHIKUN

>>20074389
no problem fren. OG XSN hodler here. People need to know that Stakenet is on some early Chainlink/ETH/Antshares type of vibe right now.

>> No.20077539

>>20075150
Gonna pop like July 4th fireworks anon. Patiently waiting

>> No.20077614

>>20076660
2mn holder here but honestly, I didnt see a single thread about xsn about 1 week ago, today we had like 6 threads simultaneously.

>> No.20077747

>>20077614
Well it had to start somewhere

>> No.20077787

>>20077747
I suppose

>> No.20077895

So how easy is it to get into crypto and how much investment are we talking?

t. retard who is easily convinced

>> No.20078402

>>20077895
There is very helpful guides that will help you along the way.

You can buy any amount you wish to hold and put it into the core wallet, a ledger/trezor or even cloud.stakenet.io which allow you to stake it easily.

If you want to support the network and in a close future get fees from the DEX you can also set up a masternode which is 15k coins.

Once masternode set up you don't need to keep your PC open 24/7.

you can buy here ->
https://www.livecoin.net/fr/trading/XSN_BTC

here a video to show you how easy it is to set up a node ->
https://twitter.com/XSNofficial/status/1278378992417079296?s=20

>> No.20078594

>>20077614

I read that as you are a 2m holder

>> No.20078670

So let's say this DEX takes off. Personally I'd be selling my rewards for fiat. What would be the best way to withdraw your rewards as fiat, and what are the implications regarding KYC?

>> No.20078701

>>20078670
For instance, XSN to BTC to cash atm withdrawal is possible.

>> No.20079489

>>20077614
>today we had like 6 threads simultaneously
ask you why... they gonna dump on you
they seek for liquidity

>> No.20079541

>>20077895
>t. retard who is easily convinced
I was like you last year. They dumped on me and lost half of my money buying the top

IT'S FUCKING GONE X4 DON'T be the mongoloid who always buys the top

btc is dumping.

10 cents is an honest price. This is some pajeet no liquidity that you are buying at x4

>> No.20079580

>>20079489
And yet there continues to barely be any for sale....
I thought they were supposed to be dumping their bags?

>> No.20079613

>>20079541
If you bought last year when no product was ready then you are a retard and your “advice” should definitely be disregarded.

Why buy into something a year before it is ready when the price will obviously go down? Product is ready now which is why the smart people are starting to accumulate now.

>> No.20079614

just to let you know the level of pajeetry... here is shilled among bleu chip (btc and link) to let it be more reputable
dgm is the proof that there was a scammer behind this shilling
>>20077996

>> No.20079639

>>20079580
>I thought they were supposed to be dumping their bags?
because no one is buying
so you wanna more liquidity to sell into since livecoin is a shit exange with no liquidity

>> No.20079716

>>20079614
>>20079639
Wat

>> No.20079791

>>20079614
>>20079639

When you find nothing to fud about but still try hard

>> No.20079860

>>20079791
Literally lost brain cells trying to read that fud lmao

>> No.20079934

>>20078670

Go to local bitcoins and sell your buttcoin to a dealer.

>> No.20080466

>>20079639
But price is going up so obviously there is obviously more buying than selling and how much liquidity do you expect something with a $17M Mcap to have....

Again you are just outing yourself as a retard who lacks knowledge of how markets outside of top 10 work.

>> No.20080486

scam.
Buy at 10 cents.
sell in 6 months

>> No.20080570

>>20080466
Exactly. People arent willing to sell until maybe $0.75-$1 and even then not whole stacks. Just profit. But then, people dont want to lose masternodes and plan on investing the rewards. I know thats my plan at least. Why sell guaranteed income?

>> No.20080854

I've had 3 masternodes running a bit over a year but when we were so low I just let my maas funding dry. Can't get the fuckers to restart. When I click restart all it says 6 masternodes started, then one gets an email saying it has pose_ban status or some shit. I can't code but looking at github that's an instaban and highest level of punishment. I restart one at a time and hours later it is status expired or new start required. The damn things never worked right before so I'll wait a week and see if they start minting new stinknets. I rember it doing similar before but I was still getting paid so I assumed it's a wallet and stakenet cloud error but actually working right behind the scenes. If it's not working by Tuesday I'll ask for spoonfeeding on the discord. I believed in the project a while back, just get caught up with real life and only put 6k usd in. Goal is 10mns so hopefully I can acoomulate before it takes off. Order books so damn thin though. If only we could do some otc trades so we don't have to worry about livecoin bullshit. I'd pay 0.2usdc/ea for 150k xsn if it could all go through in one transaction. No such thing exists though so it's a grind. I don't know how to smartcontract but it seems like something that should be possible. Like all or nothing buy orders. I'm broke aside from crypto so taking loans is the only way I can buy more.

>> No.20080855

Bought 2 MN two days ago. Up 30% already.
Im looking into arbitraging a personal loan for 2 more MNs, seeing as interest rates are below even tezos staking and my normal income is comfy enough to handle the risk if it dumps.

>> No.20080880

>>20067551
Yeah I have 5k and probably won't be able to get to 15k before it takes off. I ha e my 5k in the cloud wallet. Will the returns be close to just 1 third of having a mn or will it be far worse?

>> No.20080985

>>20080855
Been honestly thinking about doing something similar. Taking out a nice personal loan and then getting the money back via a moon within weeks

>> No.20081032

>>20080880
Almost the same. You'll get 12-13% ROI while Masternodes gets 14%.
When you stake on the cloud the amount doesn't matter

>> No.20081118

>>20081032
The amount doesn't matter? The amount of what doesnt matter? Where can I see all this info so I can just do some digging for myself instead of asking questions?

>> No.20081142

>>20081032
>>20080880
the problem is that this shitcoin won't pass 1 usd so soon because you need a lot of innocent faggots FOMOing in .. so that you can sell your scam to the at 10 usd

Da problem now is that we are scamming each other. There's not so much dumb money on the sight. So even 1 usd is a pipe dream

you have 5k * 1 usd = 5'000 usd

12% of 5'000 usd isn't somenthing you can live off

Now let's consider the case of MN.

a MN doesn't need to price of XSN to go up in order to make money.. the volume on the exange is the most important thing for it.
So even if the price of XSN is low (which will be... no one is buying XSN at 10 usd) they don't care as soon as there's liquidity to live off in the exange

>> No.20081288

>>20081118
On the cloud no matter if you put 200 xsn or 5000 the % will not change. If you stake 200 xsn on the core wallet for example you might never receive a Staking rewards but on the cloud it's more like a Staking pool were you get a % of each rewards that the pool's get.

>> No.20081312
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>>20081142
You can literally only buy XSN on livecoon. Wait until either you can buy it on CEX or the DEX is fully released this year and becomes the default trading platform. If Stakenet was smart they'd create a mobile app like coinbase but decentralized obviously and allow people to connect with their bank IF THEY WANT TO. Don't make it a requirement. Not sure if this is possible but crypto trading is evolving and XSN/Stakenet is leading that charge

>> No.20081378

>>20081142
If the DEX takes off and gets decent volume so MN’s are making a nice pot from trading fees there is no way the price of XSN doesn’t increase with that. For 1 the trading fees are converted into XSN to be paid out to the MN holders so that itself creates its own buy pressure

>> No.20081393

>>20081142
So either get a mn or ita noth really worth it?

>> No.20081453

>>20081378
>)
>If the DEX takes off and gets decent volume so MN’s are making a nice pot from trading fees there is no way the price of XSN doesn’t increase with that
well you gotta put in these terms: why the fuck should someone buy it over 1 usd?
People don't have 15k usd to buy a masternode. So they will simply ignore it whilst the MN holder will still be making money of the transactions of the dex

>> No.20081471

>>20081312
They already have an Android build for the wallet and dex in previous builds but as they are now putting out pretty much daily build updates they stopped updating the Android one as it required to much time to keep updating it as well. Once the updates slow down and they are near finalised they will update the Android builds again and obviously add iOS too.

Don’t think it will be possible to connect it to a bank though as that would definitely require regulation and they are steering clear of that.

>> No.20081477

>>20081393
>So either get a mn or ita noth really worth it?
Yes because you gotta wait for dumb money to bring to 10 usd to start to get some decent living incomes out of it... and a x100 in this market won't happen

>> No.20081571

>>20081453
Because staking rewards are still good and if more XSN gets shifted into MN’s then staking rewards increase further as the balance shifts.

>> No.20081606

>>20081453
It all depends on what the ROI ends up being, and where else people can get a similar yield.
At its base, the ROI for a MNis 16% as staking rewards.
Once you've bought in, even at $1, your fiat return is 16% assuming price doesnt move at all.
Plenty of people would throw thousands at a 16% return. Entry price doesnt matter at that point so long as you're confident price doesnt decrease. Hell, you can assume an 8% price drop and still get a return.
Sorry phone posting lowiq sentences.

>> No.20081681

>>20081393
No not at all. Loads of people are Staking. There is a balance between MN and Staking. Every amount is OK and Staking no matter the size of it still bring a nice passive income

>> No.20081763

>>20081606
Look at CRO, which has a 2B market cap. It has a 2B MC precicely because of its insane return.
Now look at the MC of XSN -- 17M... with more utility and better appreciation upside.
How much CRO alone is going to shift into XSN? What about other projects with lower yield?
I don't think it will take much to move this market. A drop in the CRO bucket would 2x the XSN market cap.

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Guys can you please shut up so I can flip shitcoins a little longer to buy at least 1 MN?

>> No.20082121

>>20081471
True and obvious point I didnt connect lmao

>> No.20082156

>>20081811
lmao same

>> No.20082167

>>20081811

Accumulate now. Just in time not only for xsn but for the general bull run we’re heading into. Gonna be glorious.

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>>20081811
No. I already have 10 masternodes, you had plenty of time to accumulate.

>> No.20082229

>>20082191

Ah don’t make anon feel bad. This is a small cap and the real deal. Plenty of time to pick it up now.

>> No.20082266

>>20081811
Small dip right now. Get in on it anon

>> No.20082452

>>20082229
We're still early on this one.

>> No.20082495

livecoin's price to trade from ETH is .0015 right now which works out to $0.34 or twice the value on coinmarketcap
am I retarded?

>> No.20082517

>>20082495
use xsn-btc to buy on livecoin

>> No.20082538

>>20082517
already bought

>> No.20082546

when is dex being released?

>> No.20082579

>>20082538
No worries, you'll gain it back anyway. But btc is the better value for sure when buying XSN right now

>> No.20082585

>>20082546
It's already in open beta. you can join by asking to join dex channel on discord.

atm is 90% done. Next milestones are raiden integration (ETH, all erc 20, USDT) and Watchtowers (hosting the DEX on the Masternodes)

>> No.20082592

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>> No.20082663

>>20082579
I mean, it sounds like if I just sell back to eth, buy btc with my eth, then buy the xsn back I'll get 2x as much xsn for no reason
hence "am I retarded" because that can't be right

>> No.20082714

>>20082663
Well you basically bought your xsn at 4700 sats instead of 1900 sats

>> No.20082741

bhenchod, buy xsn , make money

p.s. lookup bhenchod, bhenchod

>> No.20082816

Get in right under 2000!

>> No.20082980

>>20082714
oh I see what happened
my order was large enough that the price 3xed before the order was finished
so, I ripped myself off
good news for holders since people like me are buying in

>> No.20083051

>>20082980
Eth-XSN is not used at all. So yes you fucked yourself quite hard I'm afraid

>> No.20083389

>>20083051
oh well, free capital loss fodder in the worst case

>> No.20083638

If I have my xsn in the cloud wallet its staked simple as that? How often would I see rewards?

>> No.20083676

>>20083638
i think the rewards are every 30 hours or so. by the way, XSN gets a higher floor every day it seems like. the accumulation phase is almost over. two weeks max

>> No.20084371

>>20083676
>3x in 1 week
>accumulation phase
no its dumping phase

>> No.20084418

>>20084371
Already dumped mid 2018 at the start of the accumulation/development phase. It didnt see a single pump until last month so almost 2 years. This right around the time the DEX is almost finished.

How many MNs are you running XSN whale? Nice fud

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>>20084371
digits claim xsn will be 100k sat in 2 weeks

>> No.20084442

>>20084421
this

>> No.20084444

>>20084442
reroll

>> No.20084453

>>20084418
u had months of high fake volume, huge whales getting ready to take profit

>> No.20084489

>>20084444
checked

>> No.20084502

>>20084444
XSN anons...we are going to make it

>>20084453
Do want you want anon. The good word was given to you

>> No.20084786

>>20084453
I'm a whale. Can you tell me why I would want to dump right now instead of collecting MN rewards to put towards another MN?

>> No.20084839

>>20074517
>tfw people with double digits MNs become Billionaires on accident.
Now you say, "Ha! Anon, you must be joking!"

I'm not.

>> No.20084958

>>20081453
You fucking moron...
If something is good, you buy some of it so that your money increases.

You seriously don't think people will invest in XSN after they learn how big it's going to be and could get just based on potentially increasing your original investment without the promise of staking?

XSN does not need staking rewards to sell this coin...
People will buy this past $1 BECAUSE IT'S MORE VALUABLE THAN THAT.

>> No.20084989

>>20081393
what kind of retardation is this?
You buy it because people will unquestionably buy it at a higher price in the future because it will gain popularity...
Staking is a nice benefit of purchasing, but you should not be buying crypto if your only intent is to use it to get good passive income

>> No.20084995

>>20084958
But who on earth has that much money? $15k is like, almost 2btc. What are we bill gates??

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>absolutely poor, could maybe put $25 in max
Some people are just meant to die in poverty, I suppose. I'll be rooting for you all.

>> No.20085044

>>20084995
Small fish will not be pouring money in at $1 to make money off of MNs.
Small fish will be buying in at $1 because it could easily give them 5x or 10x from there and very likely even more during the bull run.

How are all of you so retarded all of a sudden?
You buy things when you think the price will go up. All of the facets of discussion about XSN are reasons you should buy (reasons the price should go up).

>> No.20085135

>>20085038
If you guess the last two digits of your next post right I’ll send you 1000 xsn

>> No.20085220

>>20084995
There are a lot of whales who make >1 BTC tx on a daily basis.
All the while, there are increasingly more people buying fractions of fractions of BTC.

>> No.20085368

>>20085044
exactly. the small players at that point will concede and believe it to be unlikely they host masternodes, but doubling their money at the very least is still super enticing.

during the next golden bullrun when normies flood this space during the 4th industrial revolution, the stakenet platform will come out as one of the most popular places to trade. that's when the big bucks really begin. this will likely happen late Summer/Fall 2021, but if people buy now their money will go up 500%+ by that time

>> No.20085653

>>20085368
We still have probably another 5-10x to go before then, anon.

>> No.20085686

>>20085368
>>20085653
Wait a second it's still only down under 20m mc...
It could still go about 20x or more, anon.

>> No.20085999

>>20085686
Which is just $3.50. Very doable before the year is out even if it just flashes at $3.50. Higher potential than DMG and PNK

>> No.20086042

>>20085135
38

>> No.20086081

>>20086042
well fuck. Staying poor till the end then lol

>> No.20086227

cant setup this damn masternode. tips? Discord link?

>> No.20086253

>>20077149
>ARISE CHIKUN
Checked

>> No.20086268

Is there a way to make ledger live to show the price of stakenet?

>> No.20086344

>>20086227
discord gg tnjKRP

>> No.20086566

>>20086081
You can make it Anon.

>> No.20086858

>>20086344
Thanks

>>20085999
Checked and based

>> No.20086872

>>20085999
Checked.