/biz/ - Business & Finance

OH FUCK this is not good.

>>20062421
LOL wtf is going on in japan

>>20062421
Do we dump tomorrow?

>>20062211
No my parents dont say that. They actually had it hard. They do think I could do better but they only think that because MSM says a degree is all you need which pretty much brainwashed many people including children. They seem more aware a degree isn't as profitable as it was sold off as. Not even a kid anymore either this stuff just pisses me off and I'm late 20's at that. I basically am trying to financially succeed off of 3 ideas at this point. Only working on 2 of the 3 at this point. Obviously stocks is one since I'm here. Up about 20k since I started last year, would be better off if I sold a winner rather than holding it recently. Enough that I wouldnt have to fume about this stuff for half a decade of neetdom.

>>20062429
Let's find out.
>inb4 ban

>>20062421
MOMMY

Someone blackpill me on the Barron's publication.

>>20062397
>tomorrow us the last day for trading until the 3 day weekend
>buying power is negative even though there is money in the cash and sweep account
Is this a blessing or a curse?

>>20062421
excuse me anon this is the horse general

>>20062421
MILFS ARE DEAD
I REPEAT
MILFS ARE DEAD

>>20062462
It's complete and utter trash, just like all the others.

Retard here
I bought calls at the peak of wkhs yesterday, 30$ 7/17 for 2.15. Fucking 1.25 at close, maybe 1.50 now when its 20$. Should I sell them on the next big dip and buy something less retarded, or just hold and pray? I'll break even if it goes to about 23-24 by the end of next week, and profit if it goes higher obviously.

>>20062452
Rolling for 9

>>20062485
You don't even understand how options work. Go read a book.

>>20062452
I'll take number 4 please.

>>20062484
Ehh she's got a cute face and nice tits.

>>20062421
>>20062429
China Korea is trying to bully japan. Korean new president is very pro North Korea, and China. Mean while he hate japan. COVID isn’t going easy on them either

>>20062485
You still them at the next pump, not the next dip.

>>20062452
I just realized there's only seven girls there. I'm a fucking dumbass.

>>20062397
DIV: Global X SuperDividend US ETF
Invests in United States High Dividend Stocks
Pays dividend every month.
Why not? Opinions? If I have 1000 shares and they pay .15 cents every month then that's 150
WHY NOT?

>>20062481
But Barron's exclusively reports on finance and economy, unlike the WSJ and the Financial Times, which are both fucking trash, desu.

>>20062485
It might hit $24 tomorrow

>>20062484
Rolling for 9 too. Its too bad she retired a few years ago.

>>20062521
and?

>>20062452
god i need a gf under 160cm

>>20062518
Do it. It bet it will also grow back to $20+ in a year.

>>20062495
I know I got iv crushed from the crab. Just saying, no idea how to play this

The OFFICIAL /smg/ video:
https://youtu.be/-DdfLtOrBPU

>>20062518
Dividend chasing is a fool's errand

>>20062452
is it true that you can fly to japan and have sex with one of these for 1000 bux?

>>20062538
So that means there less room for Barron's to report on bullshit SJW topics, retard.

>>20062518
also this

Thinking about bailing on everything lads, is it worth sticking around until earnings season? Seems like the bottom could absolutely fall out in the next month with all this second wave hysteria

>>20062421
Why should I care about emerging markets tanking over in Nippon?

>>20062485
ride it to expiry like a good little paypig

>>20062421
Bullish for WKHS

>>20062452
5 and 6 are objectively the hottest.

>>20062575
I diversify my portfolio
But I can reinvest all the dividend and return it to that stock and it snow balls on its own

>>20062580
If you are white, they'll have sex with you for free!

>>20062580
guaranteed, but first you must hunt them and catch them in a misty bamboo forest.

>>20062485
>selling calls in a dip

>>20062518

here w gooo
sorry janny

>>20062575
Given the crash it's also potentially a growth stock once everything goes back to normal by next year.

Are we really looking at a week without a single down day? I hedged my calls at close but futures are already looking bullish.

Why WKHS go up?

>>20062580
less than that
unless you are hamplanet

like 200-300 is tobitaishinji prices

me i can get away with 100-150

>>20062638
Green line can only go up

>>20062638
truck go vroom and orange man buy truck

>>20062616
DIV has like 33% very probable upside, because of the crash.

>>20062452
4 please.

I still don't understand why leveraged ETF are bad.

But I guess I'll get RTX, MRK, and...

I want to put 80% of my money into some strong set-and-forget stocks for the next 30 months.
The ETF all look like they'd cycle back up a lot in that time, but no?

I've got Microsoft, Nvidia, Taiwan semiconductor, coke, PayPal.

Heavy in tech already so I wanted other sectors..
Should I be in qqq, or swinging tqqq?

>>20062521
>unlike the WSJ and the Financial Times, which are both fucking trash, desu
disagree, unless you're just reading them for "buy this, not that!"
They're good for getting a handle in economic developments. You know you don't have to agree with them, and to always read with a questioning mind, right? And you know you can skip over anything you don't care about, right?

Just 3 or so articles a day and you're on top of what you care about, and maybe you learn a new word. terrific.

>>20062638
cuz boomer go *frown*

>>20062638
Because it has future potential to out preform tesla with a reliable not luxury vechile

just got off the phone with a cs rep from td ameritade. guy basically said that the cost value is how much i've spent total on purchasing soxl shares. he said it has something to do with cost basis and the irs (so people don't cheat taxes or w/e). from my understanding i spent a total of $433 on soxl and am down $72 from trading it. does this make sense?

>>20062638
Because they’ll be delivering your mail soon.

>>20062668
>>/biz/thread/S19663997#p19664414
It's relatively simple.

>>20062636
dude it's the annual 4th of july rally it literally can't go down

>>20062638
Good news pouring in daily.
>$70 million in financing yesterday
>Analyst at BTIG raises target from $10 to $26 today
>Last week Pence visits Lorstown Motors' factory, which WKHS owns 10% and will produce WKHS vehicles and pay royalties to WKHS.
>Also last week got the go ahead from the US government to ship vehicles.
>In the running for a $5 billion dollar USPS deal to make them electric vehicles

The only downside is that the company doesn't make money currently and hasn't won the USPS contract yet.

should I buy HON or RTX or both?

>>20062673
I literally used to subscribe to both WSJ and FT. But their writers and coverage are clearly biased. Not to mention the comment sections of each are both pozzed. Though, I am not denying there is the occasional good article, but it's a needle in a haystack trying to find them. It's just not worth paying the subscriptions for subpar journalism. I'm better of reading Tweets from blue check marks and browsing /biz/ for news.

>>20062668
>he bought KO

>>20062725
Thoughts on bloomberg?

>>20062609
At the end of the pump comes the dip, so however you phrase it.

>>20062452
C'mon, dubs or 4.

Also, how much KNG do I need to plow teenage Asians quarterly?

>>20062746
Can't opine, as I have never read them before. They break a lot of financial news, though. So there's that.

>>20062485
>I bought calls at the top, should I sell them on the next big dip
never change /biz

>>20062664
OK but as you can see, even before the crash, SDIV was not close to keeping up with SPY

>>20062734
Pepsi: 100 years of being in 2nd place

Overstock ($OSTK) has been rising steadily over the past few weeks. Up 7.5% today alone. They recently won a huge government contract with the federal government as well. This company has a lot of room to grow. . . .

>>20062697
Line goes up.
Why bad.

>>20062768
It's been a great year for KO, I see why you'd say that.

>>20062452
5 is like the ok looking one.
Do ETFs pay dividends?

Your soundtrack for tomorrow, /biz/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPs7QBBXd_o

>>20062790
All their furniture is essentially garbage though

>>20062793
Good time to buy in, then.

Give it to me straight lads, how bad is July going to be for value investors?

>>20062791
It doesn't stay going up is my point. unless you're able to swing it you're bound to take a loss. If it goes up 5% then down 5%, you're actually below were you started.
>>20062810
Yes.

>>20062819
Maybe the Feds figure it's better than Wayfair I guess.

>>20062452
4got to roll, and yeah you shouldn't have put 1&2/8&9 on there twice but whatever.

Gimme a 3, she's still fine. 7 also damn fine.

>>20062451
>MSM says a degree is all you need
not really, no
That's just something that gave you insane gains in their generation.

I can relate with your store but I'm older and much worse off.

I should've applied for unemployment, fuck I worked at the beginning of 2019, maybe I could've gotten that sweet $600 (per week?) and just DCAed into winning stocks.

Fuck me I'm a retard.

>>20062725
>paying the subscriptions
lol
normally I just get the podcasts and then use the internet to get around their article paywalls. A lot of the majors have good podcasts, and make it
>browsing /biz/ for news
BIG fucking NOPE
/biz/ spazzed out about every little thing powell said about minorities, and ignored all the macroeconomic data and Fauci testimony and FedEx earnings (which were important) and all sorts of things. This place is would be a lot less retarded if everyone were more cynical about politics.

>>20062810
some of them, cunnychad.

>>20062859
>9
wow
the worst one

>>20062859
I also forgot 0.
Fuckit, I'm going to bed. My brain has turned to mush.

>>20062859
>FedEx earnings (which were important)

Yeah, I agree. I was bummed I missed this yesterday before close. Usually /smg/ threads have up to date information, but it's not infallible. Forgot to write I also use /pol/ for a lot of my news.

>>20062836
I still don’t understand why
beating earnings = stock drop.
Filing bankruptcy = stock booming.
Shit is still retarded right now.

>>20062603
Non dividend stocks snowball too. 1% is 1% no matter the source. Dividends are a mirage.

>>20062766
SPY growth is just FAANG growth. I'd rather take a probable 33% profit + dividends over a year vs. a bet on a continued bubble.

>>20062452
rolling

>>20062932
holy shit those are some big nipponese milkers fuck yeah. face aint much but i just want those milk tanks on my fucking face right now

>>20062688
Yes it’s your cost basis which is how you calculate your gains. Also you are dumb

Shill me more EV stocks. I sincerely think they're the future. I already own WKHS of course. TSLA and NKLA I think are scams though, and I don't trust NIO as it's chinese crap.

honestly what the fuck is it with these smg noobs and their dividends, there so many every thread
did they watch one stupid youtube vid too much

>>20062926
> bubble
Nah they are really that valuable

>>20062895
>beating earnings = stock drop
almost always true for stocks that are up big or rallied hard into earnings. That's an indication that investors have very high expectations. Expectations are very important. It's very hard to surprise to the upside when expectations are high.

Because of that, a lot of stocks reliably dip right after earnings. Lots of semiconductors like AMD, and other hot stocks like LULU do this.

>>20062948
kek no need to be rude, but imagine being the guy on the other end having to explain that to people like him and people much dumber than him.
And dividends aren't really a mirage, they're just generally priced in, and not a good way to judge an investment (unless looking for bond proxies).

>>20062397
What should I buy tomorrow? Anything going to give a big dip for the weekend that's gonna recover a cool 5%+ next week or so?

>>20062849
So, just get RTX and BA instead of DFEN if I want defense.

Then swing tqqq when it dips and sell when it goes up 10% as it does every month?

Then watch /smg/ for the next horse?

Does anyone know how I can buy stocks using my credit cards?

>>20063013
Yup give me your cc numbers and I'll return cash

>>20063012
I can't even count properly or tell asians apart right now. I'm not giving you any investment advise, just read the reply chain in the archive I linked, or hope someone else explains ETF decay in crab/kangaroo markets.

>>20063013
CC usually allow a cash advance that you can take out, put into your bank, then transfer to your broker

>>20063012
Watch penny stock general, not /smg/ for the next horse. They've been on the money each time before /smg/ gets wind. DD is super mandatory though.

>>20062452
I only want 7. All the others are bufugly

>>20063076
I doubled money on horse and ktov, so yeah, I'm watching both threads, and watching I don't buy shit that's already doubled the day before.

>>20063012
Next horse is CCX

>>20062452
4 4 4 4
I only want 4

>>20062452
thicc

>>20063046
While this is true in a crab, is it not fundamentally false when an ETF goes up significantly more than down? Because ETF decay only exists mathematically when you're crabbing.

Like Zuckerburg or hate him you gotta give him credit for sticking to his principles. Told the companies who pulled the ads to fuck off. Also said "they'll be back" Which they will. Other than cable ads, FB is the largest way to get your product out in the public eye these days. So yeah they'll be back and I'm sure they'll be forced to fork out even more green when they get down to the details.

>>20062521
MarketWatch and even Barron's started publishing tons of articles about niggers and 'black empowerment' I'm pretty sure one section of their desktop site is dedicated to it now. Almost bought because Barron's is cheap but I'm not paying for articles about how to get more niggers as CEOs or some faggot shit.

>>20062638
if the company makes a "hire American only" standard id bet Trump would push them ahead.

>>20063153
I never thought I'd be on the same side as Zuck but it's happening a lot lately. What a crazy world.

>>20062895
Look at the 5 year chart for the bankrupt companies. Is their stock really booming? Probably not.

>>20063191
Isn't that illegal.

horse

>>20063208
Well i dont think he's buy em up more so just say "More companies should be like these people and hire only american" blah blah stuff.

>>20063173
just don't read those articles?
That's what I do with the (free) podcasts from Barron's, The Economist, Financial Times, WSJ, etc.

Though having the physical does feel nice. It's a luxury I don't want to spend for though.

Hi, me again, the 'kike chink tranny janny' who is reminding you your shitty horseshit meme stock is going to crash 60%. My MACD estimates confirm it. I will laugh in your face when this occurs. I tried to help you, but you wouldn't listen. Sure, it might end green today due to robinhood fomo tards. Give it 7 days, or dare I say, two more weeks, and see how your horsies are hangin' in there.

>>20063208
It's illegal not to. You know companies aren't supposed to be employing illegal aliens yeah?

>>20063265
>Hi, me again, the 'kike chink tranny janny' who is reminding you your shitty horseshit meme stock is going to crash 60%. My MACD estimates confirm it. I will laugh in your face when this occurs. I tried to help you, but you wouldn't listen. Sure, it might end green today due to robinhood fomo tards. Give it 7 days, or dare I say, two more weeks, and see how your horsies are hangin' in there.

>>20063265
I dont know if you know this but stop losses exist

>>20063138
I'm sure I can't tell Asians apart in a crab, bull, or bear market either, for that matter.

>>20062452
I need to know

How much upside does Tesla possibly have left?

>>20062990
Whatever.
Since March 23rd, MSFT has had a growth of ~30% and DIV has had a growth of ~26% (it was outperforming it at some point). You're completely ignoring the fact that there has been a crash and that there will be a recovery.

>>20063328
$1500 before next week ends

>>20063265
>charge card that expired nearly a decade ago

Motor Vehicle Sales sound like they came in pretty bad today.

Does the ADP number tell us anything about tomorrow's unemployment numbers? I'm very concerned.
And they come out at fucking 8:30, so I can't dump/hedge in RH, but at least maybe I can dump in Schwab.

I cannot wait until a year or two from now when we find out what organization is laundering money in wayfair

>>20062452
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>20063406
That's the first I hear of this. Tell me more.

>>20063430
>nothing
lel

>>20063328
When you start seeing the parking lots of Tesla factories filled with cars that they can't sell, then the upside will be over. Right now, they can't produce enough cars to meet demand. So I think there is plenty of upside because they aren't close to meeting demand.

>>20063203
Not in 5 years but I’ve seen shit like Hertz, PG&E, CHK before delisting, all go up. It’s pretty damn retarded.
If people want to blow money on dumb stuff I’m not going to gatekeep and stop them. I will however call them retard. FFS why is Hertz even up today?

>>20063467
Tesla cannot fight entropy. Eventually they will have to axe the service contracts because the overhead will be too massive to cover with new sales and/or also have to figure out what to do about used vehicles.
The realities of being a car company have little to do with being an electric or ICE. It is pure tulip mania with EV companies and Tesla is leading the pack.
>>20063439
Just a hunch. NOTHING makes sense about its chart.

year is only half over boys

>honestly what the fuck is it with these smg noobs and their dividends, there so many every thread
did they watch one stupid youtube vid too much
Meanwhile
>DIV performs about as well as MSFT since the crash
>dividend stocks like reits and banks have high volatility in this market while they have low volatility in a regular market

Some high dividend stocks have high dividends because they have crashed hard also consequently have a high potential upside and therefore over the next year they MAY outperform growth stocks. Why is it so hard to understand for smoothbrains that this isn't a normal market?

>>20062421

MOMMYYYYY

>>20063208
How?

>>20062421
>the mommy index is down
ohnonononon we got too cocky!

Help me out faggots.
Lmt or RTX? Or just keep my spy for now? Spy is 7.5% of my shit. Are they going to outperform given the elections and China tensions?

>>20063290
This also applies to legal chinks and pajeets on work visas

>>20063290
>what are work visas
>what are green cards

>>20062810
Soxl does

>>20063560
holy fuck.
I've been looking for a new animu, and I just started Tower of God.

Maybe I should watch Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks instead?

Ah shit I still have to finish copcraft and New Game! too...

Anyone else buying the Lemonade IPO tomorrow? LMND is the ticker @26$ a share

>>20063589
If you can afford an even mix of RTX, NOC and LMT I would go for that.

>>20063601
Issued by America for American benefit. I can't tell if you're pretending to be retarded or are actually autismal in not understanding what the brand phrasing of "Buy American Hire American" means.

.

>>20063559
>they MAY outperform growth stocks
*unless they're tankers

>>20063153
I hate that android mother fucker but your right, he's sticking to his guns in all the right ways, maybe he's finally fed up of having to pussy foot around with soi culture, and just wants to expand his company

>>20063606
The mommy is extremely hot but just be warned like every other incest bait animu they never actually seal the deal by the end.

>>20063589
RTX is "discount but weaker performing" LMT. Forget the memers that force that turd. It is even more entangled with Boeing and Boeing is currently dragging anything that touches it down.

>>20063606
Just read the doujins, the show was not great. Also invest in M ILF

>>20063616
>Issued by America
The government.
>for American benefit
No, for corporate benefit, which knows no boundaries or borders.
Are you jewish?

>>20063208
It would make no sense to be illegal, we have no jurisdiction over cunts from other countries, green cards and visas are granted and allowed to poojeets, they're privileges not rights, no foreigner has any right to be here unless they're a naturalized citizen

>>20063636
tell that to oreimo

>>20062638
I take back what I said about wkhs reaching 1000 in 10 years
With the way things are going with Tesla and California demanding all trucks to go green wkhs might reach 1000 in 2-5 years not 10
California is full of a bunch of blue collar workers that will be pissed if they can’t get a new fancy truck as a status symbol

>>20063265
shoo shoo jew

>>20063530
Why do you form baseless opinions without doing even a cursory amount of research? Tesla has high overhead because they use most of their money to expand their business and build more factories, their gross margins for new cars is actually much higher than their competitors and top of this they are able to sell software and performance updates over the air for extremely high margins. There is no problem with used vehicles, they have the highest resale value of any major automaker and their batteries will be able to be used for energy storage after the life of the car.

People kinda hate on RTX but honestly if you bought it way down at 40 or in the 50 range why should you even care that it stays at 60 per? Your still in the green and its paying out that divvy 4x a year so what does it mater to you that the stock is at 60 per for a bit longer.

>>20063681
California's going to lose that lawsuit so I really wouldn't put much stock into California mandating things they're not allowed to mandate.

>>20063615
Sounds interesting
>>20063639
I also see it that way. Although right now LMT send to be the best option. They are both 20~22% below target price. Rtx has it's problems due to the merger right? What's bringing LMT down lately? F-35?

If Trump wins again and the covid bs calms down I can see them outperforming the market easily. Trump hates China and loves military

>>20063547
I wanted to go to Japan with my gains :(

No ones going to be able to travel anywhere anymore are they?

/smg/, what's your investing strategy? I want to create a compilation of /biz/ investing strategies. ive started autistically screenshotting /biz/ posts, and i want to have a museum i can post a year from now. we can see what's aged well and wasn't haven't

>>20063732
RTX just essentially acquired a big civilian aerospace deadweight that's keeping them down right now but will be rocket fuel for their stock when airline demand returns

>>20063752
fomo at peak and sell low

>>20063608
What?

>>20063702
Opportunity cost

2nd Govt check in august I hope. They'll spend all of july debating it first. Trump & Mitch want to stay in office. Them telling voters in an election year "We won't help you" is a sure way to get the boot. Plus if they say no they're giving Biden,etc an attack ad on a sliver platter. I'm counting the days till another 2400 shows up in my account.

>>20063752
Doubled my money going all in a WKHS

>>20063752
>buy $500 (just as an example) worth of TQQQ calls
>sell at around $700
>buy $500 worth of calls again at higher strike/later expiry
Assumes stocks only go up is true

>>20063752
Ride momentum in options like a retard, sometimes I make money, most times I lose money

>>20063752
green line go up

>>20063752
>bring up list of $1 stocks
>check volumes
>find extremely huge buy volume
>buy that one stock
>watch as it moons weeks or months later out of nowhere
just following algos or whoever is doing this

>>20063752
The horse prints money

>>20062452
rollerino babeee

>>20063752
I swing trade equities and commodities based on the daily chart (meaning 1day candles). Decision making is 90% TA with fundamental veto if I think it's a bad company or bad sector to mess around with at the time. Average hold period on a win is three weeks. Average hold on a loser is usually less than five days.

>>20063752
I'm gonna try that Peter Lynch shit of buying 4~ growth stocks and hoping one of them is a multi-bagger. But up till now I've just been buying companies that were down 20-60% since corona hit that have decent balance sheets and had good free cash flow before the crisis.

>>20063636
>>20063643
Thanks sempais.
Will finish the cute and funny animes first.

>>20063735
not for a long while
no one wants americans right now either...
but when I make it big I also want to go to japan and have some fun with some 3DPD to try and live out some anime dreams... maybe find a wife or job but likely not.

>>20063732
LMT likely down with all of defense because market is starting to price in fear of a democrat winning, and the market interprets dems as being bad for defense spending. That's my theory.

>>20063770
honestly? I fucking kekked

>>20063006
Funny people just bitch that smg is wkhsg now and I ask for something (anything) else and nobody has anything to say. Proves the point and blames the whiners

>>20063752
I'm doing a mix. Companies that've been hit hard by the virus. Companies that show promise to grow leaps over the next years. More steady companies for the divvies. Plus two funds for general long term gains.

>>20063752
I have none. I understand that by getting in this year at the craziest time the markets seen in or over a decade that a lot of the regular rules dont apply. I havent set stop losses when I shouldve (KOS) I have set when I shouldve held (WKHS) and I've gone all in like 4 times. But I'm up 88% m I doin it right?

>>20063752
Fuck fundamentals, fuck complicated TA.
Momentum and mean reversion are the only ideas I need.

>>20063006
>>20063911
>baaaaaah no one will work stonks for meeeeee this general is bad
lurk moar or fuck off, fag
most /smg/ suggestions you get from posts like yours are just pajeets trying to pnd you anyway
there's a whole list of DD resources in the general's OP every fucking day, use them

Something that maybe is overlooked about RTX is they also have a space division. All these upcoming space launches and even longer term Mars missions will require component parts. RTX may get a cut of the action. Plus the other sectors they play in.

Does anyone actually use IKBR? What is the difference between the lite or pro? It seems like they want you to use pro or whatever.

we ain't never going under 3000 again!

>>20064038
I read one of their phone app reviews in the google play store that seemed to imply they don't have accurate pricing unless you pay for pro.

>>20064014
Mean reversion becomes easier if you care about fundamentals and macro conditions though

>>20063752
I spell anime character names out of ticker symbols

>>20064151
cute

>>20064022
You've done nothing of use other than post the thread and I dont think I'd be going out on a limb to say that you never do. You lurk and shit post and do and say nothing of value, and likely lose money. Its stock market general, my question boiled down to, in general what stocks do you folks think have a 5% upside or more due to the long weekend? My post was appropriate and all of yours may as well say "bump".

>>20063006
OLN

>>20064075
Yeah, long term. That's called value investing.
What I do is more like trading, I capture 15 day mean reversion cycles.

The stock is fucking garbage from any perspective but damn, DDD is like some inescapable pit for me. My trading on it has been very profitable though but I'm back long.

>>20063692
>Tesla has high overhead because they use most of their money to expand their business and build more factories, their gross margins for new cars is actually much higher than their competitors and top of this they are able to sell software and performance updates over the air for extremely high margins.
I don't care about Tesla'a current use of " " " profits " " ". The components of a car break down over time. ICE's don't handle the maintenance component because it quickly outpaces the value of the car. Tesla memes about "teslas being appreciating assets" which defies all physics or is really a sleight of hand about their repair service. That is a losing game. It cannot scale especially as the vehicles get older. Forget about the fucking batteries
> There is no problem with used vehicles
Again nothing about it scales. Will Tesla's service warranties persist to secondary buyers? If not, that will eat at the resale value and require lower initial listing prices for new buyers to recoup value. If they do, that eats into the demand for newer vehicles almost immediately. Cash for (ICE) clunkers was deliberately to prevent this massive crush on demand for new vehicles during the GFC. Elon could trash new vehicles, which effectively destroys the used vehicle problem entirely but then the service is literally the only selling point of the cars.
This is basic economics of ANY transportation vehicle. The power source doesn't fucking matter. It could be magic faeries that provide infinite energy for all it matters. The problem is the brakes, the gearshift, the electrical wiring, the lamps, the panels, etc. This isn't about MUH OIL v. MUH MEME BATTERIES. This is about basic physical laws.

>>20062511
Moon Jae In is a garbage leader. Shit economy. Shit foreign policy.

His economic plan was a joke.

>>20064023
recession stops that

Trading strategy right now. I think is to look for Q2 earnings report losers and buy in. At least from the list of stocks you like, especially tourism/travel/casino stocks. It's almost assuredly a minima point.

So yeah the simplest clear minded plan is to create some strategy ideas off Q2 earnings losers and buying into the weakness. Although it should probably only serve as a timing point for the trade.

Tesla is doing well because automakers haven't innovated in 40 years. Some guy with a lot of money and ideas just went in and 'what if we do X' that's literally all it takes when a stagnant industry is filled with career executives that have no background or interest in engineering.

>>20064259
mate im sure existing mechanic shops will fix EV's and im sure existing auto parts stores will sell their parts

>>20064330
Or when a automaker takes a good design and fucks it up so it drives customers to other choices.. (aka Ford and the new bastard Ranger design)

>>20064326
priced in

man if WKHS reaches $30 in the next few trading days, i will unironically be able to quit me shitty job. that'd be such a godsend for me so i can actually focus on college and not have to work my ass off at a grocery store on the weekends.

>>20064330
And they save 6% theoretical value not having dealership networks while also doing just in time manufacturing and delivery with the shortest production to sale in industry..

>>20062397
sound of the summer

>>20064361
Yeahhh.. big strat wise you would shape your portfolio to already be short dollars and be using buyingpower on margin to look for something like this.

Something like disney you are maybe hoping for a -1% at most, but who knows what people give you.

>>20064363
I am buying a Ducati with my wkhs gains

>>20064359
Modern pickups have degenerated to luxury vehicles for white collar office workers. If someone just made a reliable pick up with good towing capacity and no bells and whistles they could slap a $35k MSRP on it and completely dominate the markup for working vehicles.

>>20064399
all vehicles are pretty much just depreciation traps to ensure the buyer never accumulates wealth

>>20064391
Top strategy: buy every dip

>>20064326
theyre all going to be losers though unless they cook the books

Thoughts on Fastly? Does it look like Amazon, Microsoft,etc may goobke it?

>>20064396
damn that looks nice, i hope we both make it fren

>>20064396
>>Dead a week later
Hope you enjoyed your gains

How do you manage going long on TQQQ? What trailing stop percentage do you set to protect yourself? When do you buy back in?
I think this may be too stressful for me.

>>20063608
Sounds pretty interesting, do you think it'll pump out the gate?

>>20064330
desu i hate how Teslas look. They look like they were made by fisher price especially on the inside.

More power to Elon though, maybe when the interiors are better I may buy one.

>>20064412
enlightened above secret h*dge funds

>>20064326
Disney?

>>20064430
You eventually get enough cushion you stop caring about the dips.

>>20064259
>The components of a car break down over time
Electric vehicles have a fraction of the amount of service and maintenance as ICE vehicles. There are almost no moving parts and the drivetrain is sealed from the factory. Even the brakes have a fraction of the amount of wear and tear because regenerative braking does most of the work instead of the pads. Your point about ICE maintenance doesn't even make any sense, you have to maintain them to retain value. EVs can be worked on by most shops but Tesla prefers to do it themselves to ensure a better customer experience and they do it at lower cost so you actually save money compared to a conventional dealership model. The need for Tesla to receive service doesn't mean that the company cannot be profitable, service is actually the largest percentage of income for dealership.
>"teslas being appreciating assets"
They will be if full self driving becomes available. At that point only a fraction of the amount of cars on the road would have the ability and they'll uncut all existing ride share services. Before more cars hit the road, it's like getting paid as a taxi driver but you're not doing any driving, which is why the cars become more valuable. Labor is the highest cost for taxis, it's greater than 2/3 of the fare you pay.
> If not, that will eat at the resale value
That happens with every vehicle. Cars still under warranty are worth more than cars that are not.

I don't want to offend you but I'm really struggling to see your point and I'm wondering if you have schizophrenia.

>>20064425
I have been riding motorcycles for 5 years now and I am still not dead

>>20063911
>>20064172
>>20063006
If you can't figure out why we won't answer your question, you need to stop posting and lurk more. You've made profit on the back of people here far smarter than you and now you're obnoxiously bragging about it and antagonizing others because they won't spoon feed you your next gamble.

>>20062421
Perceived valuation. Not real.

>>20063792
If they don't extend unemployment benefits, I will vote them out for sure. I'm tired of the GOP bailing out their buddies and making goldman sachs great again. Even if I have to put with woke trannny bullshit by the dems.

>>20064445

>>20064456
Disney is crazy overpowered for a lot of reasons. The brand attachment younger people have for it is incredible. There are people whose description of themselves involves "love disney".

Comparing that loyalty to netflix market cap makes it obvious. Marvel just became a childhood brand to everyone under 18 that will reap nostalgiabux for another 50 years.

>>20062421
bloomberg news reported "Tesla took over Toyota as the most valuable car manufacturer".
Are you guys not subscribed to Bloomberg?

>>20064499
I am subscribed to Bloomberg through you.

>>20064491
Its a good time to buy right now, since I'm sure their earnings will be dismal since parks(were) closed, but disney+ is holding them up. I sold my only 3 shares this week to focus on the horse for now. I want to get back in soon though.

Do I need to learn technical analysis or can I just go to trading view?

Disney your time has come.

>>20064555
Yeah, I'm hoping one on my watchlist has a bad earnings reaction. Post Q2 ER is going to be an amazing time to buy something on weakness.

>>20064552
Seeking alpha?
WSJ?
Harvard Business Review?

>>20062580
No, unless you can pass as japanese. Most of this shit are not friendly to non-japanese because of fear of STI and shit. If you are fluent in Japanese and seem like a native speaker, getting blowjobs don't cost much (but if you pass as looking japanese you are golden).

>>20064559
You should learn the basics of it but TradingView is just a charting platform and you can trade blind without any technical indicators.

>>20064559
technical analysis will help you understand all those charts and histograms better.
Look at the amount of overlays with info you can put.

>>20064560
I'm pissed how Disney screwed their passholders with their park reservation system,you can't even park hop. Fuck, im hoping it doesn't last THAT long.

>>20062605
White and under 30 then using their dating app is a gold mine. Tinder is pretty active there too.

Fake your age and be younger.

Other suggestions uhhh, many of those dating apps say they are looking for friends just because they dont want to seem to eager.

>>20064560
Universal Studios is kind of gay though, Islands of Adventure kicks ass

>>20064461
>Electric vehicles have a fraction of the amount of service and maintenance as ICE vehicles
here is a breakdown of ICE truck cost maintenance costs by sectors. If you want to know why Elon has quietly axed pushing for trucking, here it is.
>They will be if full self driving becomes available.
Tesla has been seen experimenting with cameras and lidar. They are behind if they finally admit that.
>I don't want to offend you but I'm really struggling to see your point and I'm wondering if you have schizophrenia.
Tesla is being valued as anything but a battery or car company. ICE vs. electric is IRRELEVANT to the discussion. Tesla is being valued more than Toyota despite having literally 3% of the vehicles (and trying to break even).
Tesla is the purest form of tulip mania since pets.com

>>20064620
>actually going to disney parks

Tankers seem to have bottomed out good time for long calls maby?

Tankers seem to have bottomed out long calls maby?

>>20064666
>>20064652
>tankers

How is PGM, still a good buy?

>>20064652
>>20064666
go away Sohail

>>20062452
They're ugly holy shit, what is the appeal of asians?

>>20064666
satan wills it
I'm 5k into DHT expecting a good return soon™

Urggg, I'm missing ship again.

Should I pull out of BP and jump on the Horse?

>>20064649
I live in orlando. Parks are the only shit to do and covid hit them HARD.

>>20064704
I would rather go bird watching than pay to watch some artificial shit.

>>20064704
What do you think of disney stock, not the stupid ass parks. I'm sure you see the fiendishness in the fanbase. Is it young life-timers that will consume at all costs?

>>20064690
Passivity.

>>20064700
yea

>>20064690
There are some fucking Japanese and Korean gems in the early 20s that age amazingly.

Problem is that they are the worst sexual partners you could ever have. They virtually have no experience.

>>20063608
Sounds retarded, buying puts

>>20064746
>They virtually have no experience
Which asian are we talking here? the sluts of korea?

>>20064722
Buy it after earnings call.

>>20064740
Why oh why didn't I buy when it was around $14-15 yesterday....

Will it drop it that again?

>>20064793
Isn't that how everyone lukewarm is playing this? Tech for now and look for weakness in the rotation post earnings. It's basically automatic through 2021 now because of the Fed making everything predictable.

>>20064722
once disney figures out how to make their streaming service more attractive and finally fires kennedy they'll be on mars
im betting it'll get back to pre covid price this time next year, but I don't do bluechips

>>20064813
>Will it drop it that again?
no

>>20062452
6-8 arent bad. Had a yellow fever fuck buddy like 9 for months. It confirmed the tight asian theory for me. At first couldnt even do doggy because "I felt too big" according to her

>>20064817
Yeah they are only doing a few things badly they will probably eventually fix. Content on Disney+, better video games, etc.

>>20064619
>Aroon
Wow I don't see that one on people's charts very often. It's not terrible. Not great and there are much better choices for swing trading but not worthless.

>>20064833
what if a girl thought you were excluded from the 6-8

so stop being condescending to people like youre the best this worlds got

>>20064646
Most of the service items on Tesla are expensive but relatively simple fixes that can be done without bringing a car to a service facility, that is yet another way that they are revolutionizing the industry. As someone who has worked on cars most of my adult life, I can tell you flat out that electric vehicles are inherently more reliable and there's fewer things to service.
>axed pushing for trucking
They didn't axe their semi, they delayed it because for each semi battery you could make batteries for multiple cars and they decided going that route would be more profitable until they spin up their battery production.
>experimenting with cameras and lidar.
They experiment with a bunch of technology they never use, the fact is that cameras eliminate the need for Lidar because they can use them to create a 3D map of the world around them that is actually in color so their AI can differentiate between something like a garbage bag on the road and the unknown blob that would show with Lidar. On top of the cameras, Tesla's have radar and ultrasonic sensors. Numerous people in the industry who don't work for Tesla have come out and said that Lidar isn't necessary.
>valued as anything but a battery or car company.
It's not just a car company, it's a bunch of technology start-ups rolled into one and a energy company. It's valued as a tech company because that is part of their business model, selling software and updates over the air and getting people to pay thousands of dollars more for an improved experience.
>valued more than Toyota despite having literally 3% of the vehicles
That isn't a relevant metric. The only thing that matters is who produces more electric vehicles because they are the future. Trying to compare ICE production to EV production is like trying to compare a horse and buggy company to a automobile company. Waymo alone is valued at over a hundred billion, half of Tesla's market cap but were you screaming bloody murder about that?

>>20064610
Says the seething pancake face

>>20064484
The smile of a man who made a lot of money.

>>20064855
>They didn't axe their semi, they delayed it because for each semi battery you could make batteries for multiple cars and they decided going that route would be more profitable until they spin up their battery production.
>They experiment with a bunch of technology they never use
:^)
>It's not just a car company
Yes it is. It contracts out the innovation for its cars. Elon himself said TSLA's main "innovation" was in vertical integration
>That isn't a relevant metric.
Based robinzoomer.
>Waymo alone is valued at over a hundred billion, half of Tesla's market cap but were you screaming bloody murder about that?
Nice logical fallacy there. Tesla is not alone.

>>20064484
The top intellectual theory in the network's history. Pearls before swine.

>>20064813
the 17th is when the deadline is for the ups contract but they won't announce it then
i'm betting it'll dump that day because of retards thinking they didn't get it or even better if they only get part of the deal
even if they only get part of that deal, having their vans on the road will be a great proof of value to other potential buyers
we just gotta hope they don't fuck it up

God damn I want money. Looks like the chink semiconductor I bought has resumed its parabolic climb. Up 11.3% to an all time high in HK. I don’t know if it’s legit of if it’s the fake chinese market playing fake chinese games but shit.

Wish I’d put more of my retirement account in there right now, then I could take some off the table.

Now I’m curious about this one, chart looks a bit like a H/S set up, and it’s a wild trader. Any thoughts?

>>20064560
>no mention of Super Nintendo World
Who cares?

>>20064479
Honestly anon, they have the same friends. Every big business and anyone who needs to grease palms donates to BOTH the DNC and RNC. Things are only going to get worse if these crooks stay in charge.

And they will. Because the voter still thinks their team is better than the other team. They don’t realize they’re all on the losing team, and everyone in DC is on the same team.

>>20064917
Hope it dumps so I can invest. Thanks for the details mate!

>>20064904
They are also valued higher than other automakers because those automakers are going to have to spin down their ICE production while spinning up EV production while having declining revenue because the profit margins on EVs is smaller for them. Once autonomous vehicles get here, it's over for them because car ownership will rapidly decline and the company that can make the most autonomous vehicles and add them to their ride share fleet will take most of the trillion dollar market that robotaxis will become.
>Yes it is
What other car company is a leader in US solar installs and provides global grid wide energy storage solutions that replace some types of power plants? You don't seem to understand that they go hand in hand, Tesla used the economies of scale of EV battery production to create a whole new industry of cheap energy storage. Solar plus energy storage is going to soon be on par with all other forms of energy production, this wasn't feasible ten years ago because the battery costs were too high.
> It contracts out the innovation for its cars.
Bullshit, Tesla does nearly everything in house. They've bought a few companies to integrate but nothing is contracted out beyond cell production and basic auto parts which is standard in the industry.

If you're brave, just short Tesla and see how well it works out for it. Otherwise everything you say is meaningless and in ten years from now you're going to try to forget that you ever thought Tesla was the new Tulip Mania. I don't care because it's not like you're going to change anything but it's annoying to see so much 'I HAVE AN OPINION' shitposting surrounding this.

some of you guys are ok dont go to school tomorrow

>>20065055
even if tesla mooned to 2000 next week i wouldnt buy it you could literally buy ktov or some bullshit like that and 3x

the best case scenario for tesla is mentally retarded to invest

>>20062421

>>20065025
At this point the US will need to balkanize.. on another note I cant sleep because I want that neet money to continue.

Thoughts on PFE? I see 15% upside in next two-ish weeks

>>20065085
rip this poster

If even Elon thinks it was overvalued at 800 just a few weeks ago, I wonder what he think now, lol.

>>20065025
Oh shit. Turns out they’re TAIWANESE and not CHYNUH.

BUT, it looks like the department of justice already discovered they’re a PRC asset and t

>UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, V.
>CR18 465
>UNITED MICROELECTONICS CORPORATION
>VIOLATIONS :
>SVI(Title 18, United States Code, Section 1831 (a)(5) - Conspiracy to Commit Economic Espionage;
>Title 18, United States Code, Section 1832(a)(5) - Conspiracy to Commit Theft of Trade Secrets;
>Title 18, United States Code, Section 1831(a)(1) - Economic Espionage (Theft of Trade Secrets);
>Title 18, United States Code, Section 1831(a)(2) - Economic Espionage (Copying and Conveying of Stolen Trade Secrets); Title 18, United States >Code, Section 1831(a)(3) and (2) - Economic Espionage (Receipt and Possession of Stolen Trade Secrets); Title 18 United States Code, >Section 1832(a)(1} - Theft of Trade Secrets;
Title 18, United States Code, Section 2323 - Criminal Forfeiture

Honestly? Is anything more bullish than being a government asset? Only problem is the hubbub between the mainland and chynuh, and how TSMC was forced to pick sides.

penis lol

>>20064172
Lol you're such a bitch

>>20062452
Rolling for 7. If I get it im betting my entire account monday is red.

>>20065055
>What other car company is a leader in US solar installs and provides global grid wide energy storage solutions that replace some types of power plants?
Just so you know, Elon quietly euthanized the solar roofs project about 2 weeks ago. This news was deliberately buried with the SpaceX launch. He is refunding deposits. The forever warranty on existing roofs has been downgraded to 20 years which is both less than the lifetime of the panels and less than the time to "make the money back" with electricity generation.
>Bullshit, Tesla does nearly everything in house. They've bought a few companies to integrate
This is the definition of vertical integration, yes.
>Once autonomous vehicles get here, it's over for them because car ownership will rapidly decline and the company that can make the most autonomous vehicles and add them to their ride share fleet will take most of the trillion dollar market that robotaxis will become.
Cab companies and Uber have not made anywhere near that market.
> I don't care because it's not like you're going to change anything but it's annoying to see so much 'I HAVE AN OPINION' shitposting surrounding this.
Because when Tesla implodes its going to cause collateral damage to electric vehicles with companies that aren't just Elon musk backed Wirecard. I want electric vehicles. Elon is going to sabotage them with his snake oil salesmanship.

Euro poster here with American brokerage. Is horsecock still on the menu? I need to make some money after my wife spent it all ordering wine online.

>>20065177
oh my

>>20065120
TSLA over 1,000 is insanity. If I hear
>i-it’s not a c-c-car company, it’s a-a te-technology company
one more time.....

>>20065177

>>20065188
Oh no

>>20065091
>need to Balkanize
Do you not understand how lazy and brainwashed we are? Even here where we’re supposed to have “redpilled” thinkers that question the system, everyone either thinks everything is because of the Parenthetical People, or that the Democrats are blah blah blah the media gonna crash the economy because the elites would destroy their own economy to get fucking Biden in office.

We’re not going to Balkanize beyond the current state of affairs, and that would be a shit outcome. It would be a colassal fuckup that would create two seperate markets, and all of our “trading allies” would be able to basically put us against each-other In a race to the bottom for our export prices. It would be a disaster worse than Brexit.

I would say the odds are slightly higher that the people in charge fuck things up so badly that the people actually realize the two party system is a lie. But I’d still give that a less than 1% chance of happening.

Stocks, peepee poopoo, what was that!?

>>20065193
Every competitor has a multi-tier network to reach customers. Tesla is direct. There is no dealership middleman eating 6% of cost.

I am Bullboi

>>20065204
The dead nigger riots convinced me that we have 2 Americas.

BAKING

>>20065193
>TSLA over 1,000 is insanity. If I hear
>>i-it’s not a c-c-car company, it’s a-a te-technology company
>one more time.....

he says, as tesla is over $2000 before next summer

>>20065229
We do.
We have an angry peasantry, and a ruling class in Washington and the C-suite. And part of why things will get worse is the whites and blacks view eachother with mutual contempt. Divided and conquered.

>>20065087
You could buy something else in 3x and a short period of time, you won't because you're a retard k-pop shitposter that managed to missed out on most of the WKHS move.

Tesla is a easy 5-10x within a decade, I'm not risking all of my capital chasing every meme stock. I have enough money at this point that I have to be more conservative with it.
>>20065184
> Elon quietly euthanized the solar roofs project
I already argued with you about this last week. The fact that you still bringing this up after I already refuted it proves that you have no intention of having a honest argument.
>This is the definition of vertical integration, yes.
Vertical integration is literally the opposite of contracting out, which was your point. Tesla doesn't contract out their technology development.
>Cab companies and Uber have not made anywhere near that market.
Again, labor is 2/3rds of the cost of taxis and rideshare. Autonomous vehicles will become so cheap that they'll even take market share away from public transport. Keep coping.

How much max % day change have you got over your trading life?

>>20065229
Both those Americans are controlled opposition
I'm gay btw

NEW
MOVE THERE LIGHTNING FAST!!!

>>20065276
>>20065276
>>20065276
>>20065276
>>20065276

>>20065286
Lol by whom? Russia and the Chinks?

>>20065186
If you're going to get in wait for a dip, I think it's going to take off but I'm just some guy on an image board

>>20063832
what algo?

>>20064854
We all have our preferences. 6-8 are mine

>>20065484

>>20065177
Ohshit

>>20062452
>the only way to escape is to roll quads or 0
Give me strength.

>ahhhh that SECOND coffee of the morning

Feels so good man, but where's my /coffeegang/ at?

my entire 10k portfolio consists of: uranium stocks, delta airlines, a couple of shitcoin biopharma stocks, WKHS calls(which I'm definitely selling tomorrow) and SPY puts. Am I gonna make it?