/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20016541
You think he hates the little people or does he not think about them at all?

>>20016541

Priced in. If anything markets should start pricing in construction getting done at a faster pace since there is less retards causing traffic

>>20016541
Honestly, if the death rate turns out to be lower than the flu all the politickers that pushed this shit need to be hooked up to a full size power plant and have so much amps pumped through them their blood explosively boils, tearing them apart. Televised.

>>20016541
First wave still hasn't ended
this isn't a second wave, it's a bunch of idiots saying it's over and being proven wrong.

>>20016886
the death rate in the US is already 4 times higher than the flu

>but they're counting deaths wrong!
then they counted flu deaths wrong also because it's the same people doing the counting for both.

>>20016957
It's a virus that causes the fucking cold. There is no stopping it, just accept that the ability to use google doesn't make humans gods and we've needed to be humbled for a good long while.

>>20016972
what's the death rate for people under 70?

>>20016541
How long before people start ignoring jerome? He seems bent on dumping the stock market all of a sudden almost as if his buddies got their stocks pumped, then they dumped them, and now they want a dump so retail investors can't get rich. Just a suspiciousion

That crippled governor of texas really set the market's into a panic by shutting everything down last week. I hope Chairman Powell says down there and Powells his face with his fists. Back in the Soviet union, that cripple would rightfully been charged with "wrecking". That's what the cripple did. He wrecked the golden bull run. Not any bull run. Chairman POWs. Fuck him.

>>20016992
>It's a virus that causes the fucking cold
wow, you really don't understand viruses

>>20017009
>what's the death rate for people under 70?
very low for both flu and coronavirus

how do you suppose people over 70 get it?

more importantly, how much of the economy of the US is driven by people over 70?

>>20016972
>durrrr, if the virus kills a few people it da ends of dee worldses!!!:x!(
The revolutionaries fought the british during a fucking smallpox epidemic, you're just a fucking pussy who's had it way to good thanks to shit you didn't invent.
You started letting dysgenics run rampant. The man who discovered penicillin has no living heirs. The man who would've have invented a broad antiviral against coronaviruses when mers showed up probably capped himself in highschool after getting psychologically tortured by mediocre trash gene fucks like you.
Guess what? You get what you fucking deserve. Could've been colonizing other planets by now, but your fathers, saved from dying like the bitches they were on the sacrifices of better men, decided letting women do whatever whenever to beg for pity fucks were allowed to proliferate, finally concentrating into the massive faggotry that is yourself.

>>20017103
>/rant

thanks.
what's any of that have to do with the economy?

>>20017089
A quarter of colds are caused by coronaviruses you fucking dipshit. Like I said, stop mistaking google for your own ability. You are genetic trash that tries to flip shitcoins because you provide nothing of value. The only scary thing about coronavirus is that it's not deadly enough to wipe retards like you out.

>>20017135
>can't refute shit
>immediately tries to shift the goalpost
Reported.

>>20017089
>more importantly, how much of the economy of the US is driven by people over 70?

not fucking much, the golden demo is 18-24

What time will he get up and start FUDding about BLM feet tomorrow?

>>20017143
>A quarter of colds are caused by coronaviruses you fucking dipshit.
how does that imply to you that all coronaviruses cause colds?

you have a learning disability.

>>20017171
>not fucking much, the golden demo is 18-24
for cheap consumer goods, yes.

how much of the economy do you think cheap consumer goods account for?

>>20017219

Are you really so retarded as to believe the retirees living off fixed incomes in houses they paid off 40 years ago driving to church in 20 year old cars are the engines of the us economy?

>>20017260
Services are the engine of the US economy

wealthy people buy those services

mostly people at the age where coronavirus really becomes a danger

>>20017192
"A virus that causes colds"
Do you see the word all in there retard?
You have a learning disability, a real visual learner who can't fucking read.

>>20017279
People over 65 account for 16.5% of the population. You are absolutely deluded.

>>20017300
>it's a virus that causes colds

wrong

it's a coronavirus

some coronaviruses cause colds

some coronaviruses cause other diseases

spaced it out because I know you're slow.

hope that helps.

>>20017260
He's a fucking redditor. He thinks staying off this site made him a better person because social credit and is now having an existential crisis and trying to forge a new identity after getting btfo.

>>20017305
>People over 65 account for 16.5% of the population
how much of US wealth do they hold?

>>20017330
I've never been on reddit.

I was posting on 4chan before /pol/ was invented.

kys newfag

>>20017329
The 'cold' is a catch all term for viruses that sometimes develop into pneumonia that has been around before we knew what a microorganism was.
Stop being disingenuous and taking shit out of context. I know you are used to playing being an idiot off as a joke to gets upboats, but you have to go... wait, you have no where to go back to, huh?

the first wave second wave shit reminds of me of the IOTBW campaign on /pol/. kek

>there is no second wave

>>20017343
Having wealth has no effect on the economy, spending does. Neck yourself.

>>20017366
No you aren't, you are a faggot refugee.
Fun question: which of these amino acids is most likely to be on the outside of a protein: arginine or valine?

>>20017366
>>20017434
Come on, you're taking to fucking long.
Care to explain how you know anything about capsid bound viruses when you know nothing about basic protein structure?

>>20017422
you have to have wealth to spend it

what boomers have is an extraordinarily large portion of the equity in real estate and businesses in the US. They also hold an oversized share of professional positions.

which makes them far more important to our economy than you and I

>>20017393
>I was right back in 1685!
granted, but it's 2020 now. Try to keep up.

>>20017531
>thinks SARS, MERS, and Corona are common colds
>knows anything about viruses

>>20017550
That's what I thought, fucking pussy refugee, hey jannies, stop trying to create an inclusive environment, make these faggots earn their stripes. Go ahead and ban me if you really are that gay, having to replace one of the thirty or so things I do for fun might literally kill me, laughing at the board getting flooded and newer anons realizing they need to be harsh stopped being funny 100 waves of reddit outcasts ago.

>>20017550
>They also hold an oversized share of professional positions.

>>20017618
you don't look banned to me, newfag

>>20017601
Answer the question faggot. The idea you know anything about protein bound viruses, how they spread and common characteristics of their interactions without knowing basic protein structure is laughable. There are hundreds of coronaviruses, they all cause colds/pneumonia, they spread like crazy, have antibody dependent resistance making vaccines difficult and have proven time and again they can't be stopped.
This isn't about stopping boomers with failing hearts/livers or obese joggers from dyimg, this is about control. Small businesses are getting wrecked right now, only a few groups benefit from that.

>>20017646
boomers are retiring later and dying later than previous generations.

killing them off with a pandemic might fix that but honestly they're not going to die quietly. First they're going to stay home and crash the economy for a few years.

>>20017692
Your analysis of everything tells me you're a drooling retard that needs to stop stealing my goddamn oxygen already.

>>20017685
>There are hundreds of coronaviruses, they all cause colds/pneumonia,
false.

most of them can't infect humans

of those that do, not all have

of those that have, not all cause colds

in fact Covid 19 is not a cold.

>>20017713
do you have any particular reason for thinking I'm wrong aside from your delicate feelings?

>>20017570
>its 2020
>everyone has become a doctor and stopped using colloquial terms to refer to diseases
That whole mistaking google for your own ability? This is what I was referring to.

>>20017713
ok boomer

>>20017730
You make no salient points, ignore refutations, take shit out of context or intentionally misinterpret it, and follow up with insults and try to change the subject if that fails?
People like you should be banned from voting, sterilized, banned from the internet and forced to dig holes for a living.

>>20017738
I'm as much a descriptivist as you are

nobody is calling this disease a cold

>>20016834
I do not think he hates the little people. Problem is they edit his speeches for only the main economic headline. His statement today stated many folks will suffer and it will have lasting effects.

>>20017770
>blah blah blah
>Covid 19 is a cold
of course I ignore your 'points', you're retarded.

>>20017730
The fact that my 20 year old neighbors are out buying chrome rims and $300 pairs of pants every payday but my grandmother shops at a second-hand store once a quarter and gets the vapors when she has to spend over $100. Yeah, she loaded, but she doesn't spend it, and that's not unique among the retiree crowd. Nothing you're saying makes even a little sense.

>>20017809
so her money's in a matress somewhere or is someone out managing (investing, spending) it?

>>20017827
Treasury bonds.

>>20017795
Before the glowing screen told them to call this covid, the average person did not ddifferentiate between coronaviruses and rhinoviruses, you fucking know this and are splitting hairs and quoting out of context. Just take the fucking loss, say 'I know dickshit about virology, I will pick up a well curated academic book and read it instead of repeating shit I read in an editorial written by a retarded english/communications major'

>>20017833
Perfect!

would you like me to explain why buying bonds contributes to the economy or can you handle that on your own?

or how most seniors have their retirement in equities? And how that contributes to GDP?

>>20017279
>>20017219
We live an economy that is primarily driven by consumer spending, things like loans for school, and loans for houses, fancy cars, new iphones, weed, all the cost associated with raising a kid to 18. This means that our economic activity correlates with the population of people between the ages of 18 and 45. People younger than that don't have money to spend, and people older than that are established in their homes, and frankly tapped out in terms of credit. And once you get over 55 you see a spike in the % income salted away for retirement. Having a young demography is what lets the US consume so much of China's trade, and its why Mexico will be such a valuable trade partner for the US in the coming decades.

>>20017855
>before it was discovered it would've been called a cold
clearly not even that's true, since it wasn't called a cold from the day it was discovered.

>>20017807
You still haven't answered the very basic protein structure question I asked. Because you don't fucking know.
Covid is a more deadly cold. Humanity is getting rekt by a cold because retards like you have been allowed to multiply. Dysgenics has consequences. End of story.

>>20017865
Yes, tell me about how treasury bonds are the engine of the us economy and not consumer spending. Lay all of your retardation on the table.

>>20017868
yes, people that think spending is mostly retail goods are likely to believe what you do.

services are where the money's actually at, about 80% of our economy is in services.

not retail goods.

>>20017883
>Covid is a more deadly cold
if it's more deadly it's not a cold

we change the name, see? Because it's different.

>>20016541
the economy has already collapsed. the pandemic is all smoke and mirrors.

>>20016541
The NEET shall inherit the earth

>>20017875
It was called 'just a cold' when it started in china, or 'just pneumonia'. Now you are trying to define the start date to save your argument. Guess what? Average referred to all strains of h1n1 until the news told them to call it that, even though h1n1 flu viruses had been around for fucking ever

>>20017930
If it's more deadly it's called pneumonia. Granny gets cold, dies, death certificate says pneumonia. Johnny the 12 year old gets same disease, has mild symptoms, it's called a cold.
Stop. Splitting. Hairs.
I don't know what is sadder, the fact people are getting anally annihilated by a cold or your obstentious refusal to give up the schoolyard tier rhetorical social credit based argumentation you used on reddit.

>>20017964
>>20018006
it got a different name because it causes different outcomes.

>cobra is just a garter snake bro, you're freaking out for nothing

we have words for a reason, use them correctly or admit you're shilling some propaganda

>>20017901
You need to stop acting like you know what you're talking about around people that actually know what they're talking about. It makes it clear that you know less about economic demography than you do about virology.

The overwhelming majority of our GPD (which you seem to think is a real metric that actually matters) is the result of firms trading debt to each other, often resulting in bonds trading hands and being repackaged until the original firm holds them again. This doesn't result in any material gain, service rendered, or product produced, but it is counted towards the gross product. Consumer spending obviously isn't just buying things, its primarily about taking on debt, which for the American consumer is a young man's game. Most people past 45 are at the limit of what they can borrow, the more responsible ones are done paying off a mortgage and tend to be debt averse, and only a vanishingly small portion will have access to more credit than they need and use it to leverage themselves into even more wealth.

One of the economic reasons given for accepting waves of refugees is that they have no prior debt history which means they can be loaded down with loans to further keep the machine running as the population of young people who can spend decreases. The retired overwhelmingly only have enough salted away for their own lives, while you seem to think that everyone over 65 is a dividend aristocrat plugged into the market. And speaking of services consumed by the old, they're living longer than the people that designed the pensions anticipated,meaning that they incur medical costs far in excess of what they input into the insurance market during their working lives. This means that while they do account for service sector spending, this spending is generally done by insurance firms or the state. Gram-Grams' hospice care pales in comparison to the productivity she fed into the system when she was a secretary.

In the future be less of a cunt

>>20018140
to have debt you must also have creditors

who holds those notes?

not young people.

>>20018061
It's a cold because it causes coldlike symptoms, old people have been getting pneumonia from coronavirus caused colds forever.
Llovia virus and ebola virus are both filoviruses that cause hemorrhagic fever, one is just much deadlier than the other. Covid is a fucking marketing term to sell fear and help amzn and shithead like them drive all competition out of business before they can start an alternative online platform community and also to influence politics. The hospitals get government funding whenever a fat fuck dies from it if they say covid did it, rather than saying 'he died from being a fat fuck with a disease that people who don't weigh half a car in his age group survive'

>>20018140
>Gram-Grams' hospice care pales in comparison to the productivity she fed into the system when she was a secretary.
a valid point, but I never said they earned the wealth or the services they consume and reinvest. They account for it. Whether they earned it or not.

>>20018140
He knows shit about virology, he doesn't even know most proteins have hydrophilic residues facing the outside of the protein, how can he understand lipoprotein cell interactions that capsid bound viruses like covid use?

>>20018177
>It's a cold because it causes coldlike symptoms
it's not a cold because it kills far more people than usual.

>>20018186
Did you just admit that you skim shit without reading it by double posting?

>>20018201
Read past the first sentence you fucking tard.

>>20018213
Of course I skim, you faggots write walls of text to say nothing

he had a good point though and it was worth a response.

>>20018224
write something worth reading, you verbose autist

>>20017329
>>20017685
Its fucking SARS2 you moron. Were you also running around screaming that SARS and MERS was a nothingburger when it was spreading in the early 2000s? You think those are everyday colds?

>>20018197
Have virologists classified Covid 19 as a common cold?

you know they haven't and it hurts you so much to be proven wrong. Stay mad.

>>20018225
>durr, i u no write ebryting in one word thingy me no read.
Learn to fucking read. If it takes you longer than ten seconds to read a paragraph you are actually rerarded.

>>20018243
It was six fucking sentences you stupid fuck. Maybe you'd have one of those professional positions you envy boomers for, like me, if you fucking read shit.

>>20018257
I read much faster than you do

it takes a second to process what I've read though. And in that second I've posted a response already

>>20018246
Yes, and people like you being allowed to exist instead of eugenically selecting for intelligence is the reason coronaviruses got this bad.

>>20016957
Is straight up nothing but politics, they sunk so much fucking money on a "vaccine" they'll fear porn you in to injecting yourself bleach, tthey're already talking a base price for a vaccine will be around 3500 dollars.

You know how much money this fucking reptilians stand to lose if you don't buy "the cure"?

In the meantime I feel totally fucking stupid walking in to public places with a dirty fucking rag in my face because I am supposed to protect death bed filthy fucking boomers even tho I already have anti bodies for this shit.

Literally fear porn, everything is priced in, if this fucking meme flu kills you, you were already on your fucking way out and we shouldn't halt the fucking world for you.
Fuck you, I hope you catch it and die a slow painful death maggot

>>20018285
If we selected for intelligence you'd be among the first ones lined up against the wall

just sayin

>>20018273
Obviously not, if you are posting before you have fully read shit and then covering your ass after rereading it and realizing your retarded.

>>20018291
I'm not sure what basis reptilians would have for valuing money.

I mean once you have all of it, it's worthless. The value is in tricking people into thinking they need it but not making that need so severe they shoot you.

>>20018296
Not likely. See I'm a chemical engineer. 260k a year. 148 iq. You on the other hand cry about boomers having better jobs than you.

>>20018320
I was explaining, not complaining.

>148 iq
>chemical engineer

kek. You aimed low enough I actually believe you.

>>20018319
This is literally what joggers say to make excuses for being poor.

>>20018168
And to have a market, you need customers. Do you not understand that a creditor is essentially a loan-seller? If a loan-seller can't find any more new and interested loan-customers, he can't continue to do business. If his customer base is continually aging out of a range where they are able to take on his debt, he's faced with a dwindling cash flow as fewer loans can be issued year over year.

You also seem to fundamentally not understand how wealth is divided in this demography. The richest people, the ones running the biggest loan-selling operations, are going to be old simply because if you aren't a fuck up and you're plugged into the money printing apparatus your net worth is only going to increase with age, time in the system, and influence. But you seem to think that this mean that retirement age people are on the whole, rich. Its a fraction of a percent of retirement age people on the top of the wealth pyramid that drives their demographic's worth upward, primarily through usury.

You also seem to think that these super rich old people store their money in assets that aren't fear sensitive. All of our high level bond trading is still being done by coked-up criminals; our financial institutions operate hand-to-mouth in a way that make paycheck to paycheck wageslaves look responsible. The service (loan) sector machine cannot survive slamming the breaks, which is exactly what happens when you run out of loan-customers. Old people don't want new debt. Why is this hard for you to get?

>>20018342
Answer the original question on protein structure. You will never be able to because you can't google it.

>>20018348
>clearly autistic
>engineering degree
>racist
yep, adds up
are you a creationist too?
gay?
that would really put you in the pipe

>>20018291
The virus is real. Learn to cope.

>>20018354
You're right on all three points, but this is a much deeper conversation than I'm prepared to undertake. Particularly since I don't disagree.

you being right does not make me wrong though. None of those points changes the effects of scaring the wealthiest demographic into not spending and not investing/lending.

>>20018365
I didn't read your shit.

being right about one thing doesn't make you right about other things. Address your error or not, I don't care.

>>20018370
I'm a deist (that means deltaS>=0 is god, I know you are retarded and won't get that), I fuck castizos in south america on vacation in my 2 square mile plot of land, everyone accept white faggots like you hate joggers.
If it weren't for travel restrictions I'd be picking up college girls in bogota instead of entertaining myself by creatively making fun of idiots like you.

>>20018319
>I mean once you have all of it, it's worthless

Yeah tell that to Nancy "Marie Antoinette" Pelosi.
you can see the spasm in her pulled back botox saturated mask everytime she talks about (((stimulus))) checks and small business bail puts.
This people know no boundaries, no fillings, no stoppage.
They have no fucking morals and enough it's ever enough, Carlos slim is buying perfectly functioning companies around the world with no other purpose than re selling them in pieces and shorting the results.

If you think this fucking monsters will stop because they have a scrooge mcduck type of vault think the fuck again, the other greedy nigger will want 2 vaults and the next 3, it's all about power once you have all the money in the world

>>20018426
You never made a point, you just split hairs on what I was saying and tried to rally a nonexistent crowd to shout me down.
Like hyenas try to do to lions.

>>20018428
>I fuck castizos
gay then

you're hitting most of the targets here.

>accept
it's hard to pretend to be educated when you can't spell, huh?

>>20018320
>28 posts by this id
>larping like a complete fucking faggot, probably an undergraduate chem eng autist

genuinely embarrassed by you, how much did you lose today shorting? stop posting and go improve yourself you salty fuck.

>>20018437
I'd think someone as autistic as you claim to be would appreciate precision in language of all things.

but you're not that bright and you're not that precise.

>>20018403
>deeper conversation than I'm prepared to undertake.

Fuck off reddit trash
The wealthiest American demographic is composed of about 350 people, mostly male, in the 65+ age bracket, primarily due to the reality bending power of compound interest and federal reserve banking.

Everything about the way you type, your inability to admit you don't know what you're talking about, your refusal to answer basic questions people ask to gauge your knowledge on a subject, and your immediate resort to shit flinging when you get called out for it tells me you're about as deep a freshman with a Boondocks Saints poster in his dorm room. You reek of the typical 110 midwit just smart enough to skate through an easy undergrad degree, but not smart enough to listen when you could be learning for free. Go back to buying vinyl figurines, or not understating geopolitics, or whatever it is you golem do.

>>20018433
liberals in general don't understand money

capitalists on the other hand probably should

>>20018376
I think you missed the part where I said, I have anti bodies and I hope you fucking catch it and die nigger.
I know it's real because I had it in February alongside a shit ton of other people.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if other 50% of America population already has antibodies, for every boomer that goes to the hospital complaining about respiratory problems 20 zoomers and 10 millennials are recovering from it and don't even know what it was

>>20018465
A castizo is American latino of primarily European descent you smooth brain.

>>20018521
yes, and a castiza is an American Latina of primarily European descent, you utter retard

the "o" at the end means you're gay or never been to latin america

Mods, why do you let this go on.
>1 post by op id
>3 people screaming at each other for 100 posts.

>>20018469
I made 12k selling idex today, which I bought last thursday.

>>20018480
>i want precision
>i also want 1 sentence explanations of biochemistry

>>20018548
I don't need to speak spanish to fuck them dipshit. I just need blue eyes, which I have.

>>20018657
I never asked you about biochemistry

you seem to think if I don't know something that automatically makes you right when you say something stupid.

anyone with a "148 iq" should immediately see the fallacy there, but perhaps in time you'll hit it.

>>20018674
you don't need to speak Spanish to know that "o" is masculine and "a" is feminine

you just have to visit the country really. Or buy land there.

>>20016886
Why are you so angry? Did you father touch your peepee?

>>20017135
That sperg will increase gun sales after shooting up a school. Buy RGR.

>>20018700
You acted like you knew about it, and then ignored my points when I talked about it. Keep up retard, no one cares if you asked about it, you brought it up.
You said something stupid, you said covid wasn't a cold. It is, covid is a marketing term to drive up ratings, create political smoke screens, and destroy small businesses.
I haven't seen hysteria like this since y2k. It's ridiculous. Old people get colds that turn into respiratory complications and die. If they tested as extensively for SARS as they have for this when it broke out, we would have seen similar numbers.

>>20018775
You want to know the funny part?
Three other ids in the thread are my buddies, we are all in the same room laughing our asses off right now.

>>20018797
>You said something stupid, you said covid wasn't a cold. It is,
said no virologist or linguist

>>20018821
the voices in your head aren't real people, buddy

>>20016834
I think they operate under the dual mandate and don't care to think about their consequences

>>20017890
Goddamn you’re dumb and stubborn, worst combination.

>>20018006
Glow harder nigger

>>20019448

>>20018271
You sound like insufferable prick, wannabe know it all. Know a little so you can throw big words out but not enough to understand basic logic.

>>20018291
Fuck off glow nigger

>>20018342
Kek, I laughed too when I saw chemical engineer...

>>20018365
PROYEIN STRUCTURES GOYS!! Protein PROTEIN, structures!!! GIMMIE...seething over protein structures like they are the only faggot to have PhD
KYS faggot

>>20017055
checked and wrecked