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>> No.20015371
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$16 Open tomorrow

>> No.20015443

How do I short america? Seems like it's going to become south africa-tier in a decade or two.

>> No.20015491

>>20015443
Don’t have kids.

>> No.20015520

>>20015443
put ratio spreads on the S&P 500
better than shorting outright. My spreads were up triple digits from Feb to Mar.

>> No.20015557

>>20015443
Books will be a store of value when we start burning them in mass.

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>>20015270
Can someone redpill me on the stock market? So far I’ve made 6k since I started in March but still don’t really know what I’m doing

>> No.20015587

>>20015568
It's impossible to lose money so long as the fed keeps C R E A T I N G L I Q I D I T Y

>> No.20015595

>>20015587
haha, no. you're just always losing money then.

>> No.20015654

>>20015491
I will, but you won't, leftist "liberal." You're too nuts and self-hating.

>> No.20015687

>>20015654
he was answering your question

fuck dude, your identity politics brainwashing must be really thorough if you get triggered that easily.

He just told you that if you want to short America, then don't have kids.

>> No.20015709

>>20015371
how high is it going?
should I but the horse at $16?

>> No.20015726

>>20015443
Buy guns, alcohol, and rural property. Also unironically crypto in case shit really hits the fan so you can get safe passage elsewhere.

>> No.20015737

>>20015371
>This FUD
17, close at 20

>> No.20015741

>>20015709
Horse at $60 by end of year is extremely likely unless we have a second leg down. Horse $25 by end of july also almost guaranteed.

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Some sort of civil conflict is unavoidable at this point. The people that run this country have alienated too many people with this self-reinforcing cycle of virtue signalling.

>> No.20015794

>>20015270

Inb4 shorting is banned

>> No.20016012

>>20015687
Yeah, you may be right. Having a bad day. I've lost faith in the country. All seems hopeless now.

>> No.20016043

>>20015741
>>20015737
INVEST IN EV CHARGING COMPANIES

BLNK

>> No.20016045

>market closes
>general turns to /pol/ lite
everytime

>> No.20016110

>>20015784
I would agree.
The disconnect between the various narratives and reality is so jarring at this point.
It must be amusing or terrifying to watch for anyone outside of it.

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>>20016045
Seething

>> No.20016307

>>20016045
Kys nigger

>> No.20016320

>>20016043
It's not that simple. There are at least 3 types of chargers out there (open vs proprietary/teslashit, plus variants). Most locations are already maxed on the amount of charging stations available, spots remaining are 2nd grade at best. Few spots possible per car to charge, bugs out the ass because everything is app-controlled (most apps don't even fucking work so you have to swap to another station on a different network just to charge), bad cost or charge estimation, etc.
There is tons of ground to cover but what, exactly, does BLNK do well compared to the others and how will they take over the current prime spaces?

>> No.20016443
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>>20016045
it's true
and i hate it

but today they're joined by the discord shills
I'm gonna go for a run

>> No.20016464
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What anime should I watch?

>> No.20016481
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>i didn't buy workhorse a week or two ago because i thought i already missed my chance

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>tfw turned my calls into a call spread at close
> want it to dump even though I would lose money so I won't feel like I missed out

Why do I hate making money bros?

>> No.20016544

What's happening with CRSP in after hours? It's looked invincible over the past few weeks of bearish crab. I'll be happy to buy a dip, but I'm curious is there's news behind the numbers.

>> No.20016568

>EV charging stocks mooning

Where are you now, you snide little faggot who said blnk and plug would go nowhere because Walmart would corner the market on charging stations? What was it you said? "Good luck on your little spec stocks though."

Eat my dick, faggot. Wish I could see you in person so I could throw a stack of money in your face.

>> No.20016588

>>20016481
Go all in tomorrow. Trust me.

>> No.20016602

>>20016045
How could a free thinking human have lived the last 5 years and not turn /pol/?

>> No.20016658

I bought CLSK today, on a scale of 1 to eternal bagholding, how fucked am I?

>> No.20016663
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You guys ever think about what would happen if you went all in on a trade?

>> No.20016681

>>20016663
Literally every time I make gains.

>> No.20016703

>>20016663
Go for it. No risk, no reward.

>> No.20016729

How fucked is the economy?

>> No.20016746

>>20016481
I bought and sold WKHS for a $3/share gain. It would have been a $5/share gain if I had waited an hour, and a $10/share gain if I still had them today. I know you're supposed never supposed to regret your gains but it's hard to no think about what if.

>> No.20016752

>>20016602
>how could open minded people have different opinions then me?
Gee, idk.

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>>20016729

>> No.20016820

>>20016752
An open mind is an unguarded mind. Which would explain why yours has been rotted by retarded soi drivel

>> No.20016821

>>20016788
The fuck is that? Is that an inside joke I don’t get?

>> No.20016847

>>20016464
Paranoia Agent
Serial Experiments: Lain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-PkAQcuZOw

t. NOT a weeabo

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>>20016464
C: Control

>>20016820
>all I know about your views is that you don't like my favorite 4chan board
>therefore your mind is rotten and retarded

>> No.20016871

>>20016854
Shut the fuck up you passive aggressive fagwit

>> No.20016874

>>20016045
How? its the same before and after just because OP has Trump in it doesnt mean its not talking about the market??

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>>20016871
>buzzwords
wow, you win the internet debate again

>>20016720
We saw, we still don't care.

>>20016690
cmon man... bring in your own images, don't just repost shit i posted in the last thread...

But I guess I'll re-ask my questions:

>Are any of theses good?
>There's a whole bunch of anime I always assumed that would be shit if they have to pander to sex
>like shobitch and shimoneta and eromanga and A Sister's All You Need and oreimo...

>> No.20016916

>>20015737
some anon with a paid subscription service said on here that the insider TA has this going to 2 dollars over the next couple of days. do you still think that is possible

>> No.20016922

>>20016752
You must live in a white community.

>> No.20016925

>>20016874
have you read the thread?

>> No.20016930

>>20016045
nignog

>> No.20016938
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zD77kyQYifc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zD77kyQYifc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zD77kyQYifc

OF COURSE A HORSE IS NOT JUST A HORSE

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to the /pol/ faggots, please make sure your /pol/ shit is actually relevant to the economy or markets. Drivel about the fucking virus is worthless if it's not in the context of revenues, credit and debt, mmt, or headwinds. Riots are acceptable to discuss for insurance, basic materials, fearmongering plays, and real estate. thanks.

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>>20016942
niggers are yucky

>> No.20016969

>>20015784
There's too much bread and circuses propped up by fiat for the non ultra-socialized to act in any significant manner

>> No.20016974

Tell me when to buy horsie tomorrow.

>> No.20016975

>>20016961
based. unironically bullish to remove net tax drains however the saving preferences of others is bearish and deflationary.

>> No.20016978

>>20016974
you're to late

>> No.20016999
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Ring ring hello is it gud idea to buy 10,000 worth horsies tomaro?

>> No.20017000

>>20016916
What kinda of TA would tell you it would be 2 dollars that quick

>> No.20017001

>>20015270
Regarding OP pic, do jews not realize that if America snaps on them, there is not going to be anyone coming to save them this time. They know that right? I mean jews have basic intelligence right and know 1+1 = 2 right? Or are they that blinded by their hubris that they think they can keep on controlling everything forever?

>> No.20017002

FUUUUCK i feel like buying WKHS at this point is like buying a shitcoin but the FOMO is overwhelming

>> No.20017005

>>20016974
Any moment you don't hold the horsie is a moment you literally threw money down the drain.

>> No.20017011

>>20015270
Tommorow I will go in on horse and it will crash. Make sure you sell.

>> No.20017019

Can we talk about Nikola is scam?

>> No.20017030

>Independence Day
This entire week is going to be green. BA RTX DFEN any American big business stock is going to see massive gains

>> No.20017031

thats it. im fomoing into ev's retarded cousin... SOLO

>> No.20017040

>>20017002
It's already too late bud

>> No.20017041

I bought BLNK at 5.45 AH but fck that honestly I sold an hour later. CLSK is a safer bet.

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Hello what will horsie be at in week? Some1 plz halp a fren. Should buy horsie tomaro??

>> No.20017045

WKHS is overvalued right now. Literally overvalued. And I made 2700 dollars on it so don't act like I don't love the stock or am spreading unwarranted FUD. The USPS contract is currently priced in. If that contract does not work out in the favor of WKHS, you will all be left holding bags of incomprehensible pain and agony.

>> No.20017048

>>20016847
lainfags are the worst, kys tranny

>> No.20017061

>>20017045
if i buy a lotto ticket put, what would your guess be? $6 about a quarter out?

>> No.20017067

>>20017045
If wkhs is overvalued then what is nikola?

>> No.20017072

>>20016602
>free thinking
Getting your political ideology from the absolute lowest tier of degenerate outcasts that cannot function in society is literally as retarded as being trans deer

>> No.20017076

>>20017019
It's not a scam but it'a very overvalued.

>> No.20017083

>missed the nigger wave
>Missed the kike wave
>Now missing the EV wave
Always one step to late

>> No.20017082
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Why yes i buy horsie every chance i get.

>> No.20017085

>>20017043
$20

>> No.20017088

>>20017067
Basically TSLA 2.0 but for all the wrong reasons.

>> No.20017090

>>20016916
Wtf no. Hard no.

>> No.20017104
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Ring ring frens horsie make my penor stiffy and icky.

>> No.20017105

>>20017061
I see it dipping below 8 if the contract fails but not 6

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>>20016999
yes fren

>> No.20017110
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Bullish for nominal asset prices.

>> No.20017113

>>20017083
dont worry dipshit its green going to be green all week

>> No.20017117

>>20017002
lmaoing at ur lyfe

/horsechads/ know no fear

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwATF5dnfq4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwATF5dnfq4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwATF5dnfq4

>> No.20017119

>>20017045
You've been making these posts all weekend. See you at $24 EOW Shlomo.

>> No.20017123

>>20017110
pretty based ngl

>> No.20017130

>>20017076
Are they even able to manufacturer anything?
>>20017088
Literally couldn't have come up with a more original name though?

>> No.20017132

>>20017105
based, thanks. i am growing a collection of retarded OTM options. It's kinda fun. I'll report back if i actually make money doing this.

>> No.20017134

>>20017110
The best I can do for you is a voice acting gig on family guy

>> No.20017137

>>20017109
reads like a democrat white paper
reminder BLM is a socialist movement not a black movement

>> No.20017141 [DELETED] 

Ive got a 4 inch plug up my bum rn and it is making me feel good inside frens.

>> No.20017142

>>20016925
>How do i short America
is that it literally just tell then short spy there done.
>>20017104
NOW this THIS is a problem

>> No.20017152

>>20017067
>this company has a higher valuation, therefore a different company isn’t overvalued.
What the fuck are you even talking about?>>20016975
>net tax drains
The thing about poor blacks is they spend the money they get, which stimulates the economy and puts cash into the pockets of corporations. There’s a big problem if Americans get into the habit of stuffing all their cash into savings accounts right now, and we develop a sort of culture of savings, very deflationary.

>> No.20017155

>>20017137
FUCK
meant for >>20017110

>> No.20017160

>>20017119
I would be happy for everyone if it did, I'm happy with what I made. But I would hate to see the board get BOGGED.

>> No.20017162

>>20017110
the latest proposal I saw was every black person in the US would get ~$300,000 as reparations. That is a lot of money that will last them a lifetime if they make responsible choices.

>> No.20017165

>>20017110
>Release all prostitutes from jail
Muh dick mufugga

>> No.20017169

>>20017160
Youre just a fucking KIKE.

>> No.20017172

>>20017110
> Cut military spending
But that's the #1 way for minorities to make a living.

>> No.20017177

>>20017141
how do i short this

>> No.20017181
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>>20017110
>redistribute the wealth
Has fox told their viewers about the massive redistribution of wealth that’s happening right now? Seems like they should know about it, if cable news retards can even comprehend it.

>> No.20017184

>>20017123
>t. retarded bernout

>> No.20017185

>>20017152
>the saving preferences of others is bearish and deflationary
yeah. it'd be a wild thing. I'm sure the fiscally responsible would get slapped around for trying to save desu

>> No.20017188
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Dubs and horsie die tomaro

>> No.20017198

>>20017162
thats a biiiiig if

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>>20017188

>> No.20017203

>>20017188
FUCK

>> No.20017204

>>20017162
best I can do is $99,500 each, and only if they relocate to Africa
Giving them a large payout and letting them stay here would be the worst option by far

>> No.20017205

>>20017188
Based horse

>> No.20017209

>>20017152
You think theses valuations have any basis in reality? That's the point

>> No.20017214

>>20017188
Fug :^0

>> No.20017225

>>20017155
hahaha I was so confused

>> No.20017234

>>20017162
What about all the Japanese Americans who lost their wealth when they were sent to internment camps?

>> No.20017235

>>20017162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZN7IzvCVs

>> No.20017237

>>20017110
>Okay, so the list so far is "Bitches, White bitches, Asian bitches, Brazilian bitches, East Indian bitches, West Indian bitches, Broadband internet porn, K- Y Jelly, Condoms, Viagra, People magazine, and Alaskan bitches.

>> No.20017242

>>20016481
Same. I had the chance at like $4 or so dollars. Really hope SOLO does the same thing as it's an ev car manufacturer.

>>20016663
Yes. Had I done it yesterday I'd be up bigly.

>>20016746
>what if
Yeah pretty depressing especially when I had a shot at 2 stocks that have mooned since sincd earlier mid year. There's that one anon who went in with like 30k on WKHS. Looks like he has made it so long as he eventually sells at a high enough price.

>>20017002
Yeah i felt that way too at lile 6 to 8 dollars. Idk now man juat how much higher can it go. If theres one thing ive noticed. If im goimg to fomo im better off fomoing immediately or not at all. Had i done that with KTOV or WKHS iirc Id be up bigly.

>> No.20017277

>>20017242
wkhs is not going to be the last massive pump that /smg/ will see
i missed wkhs as well

>> No.20017281

I sold WKHS a while back at a loss for 3$ lol

>> No.20017282
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15.5 AH close

>> No.20017284

>>20017072
>implying generally agreeing with most or some of the political consensus on /pol/ makes you one of the bottom of the barrel retarded degenerate /pol/ outcasts

>> No.20017287

can't wait for those tariffs on EU cars kek

>> No.20017295

so we're all selling horse on the 14th, right?

>> No.20017303

>>20017295
No, retard.

>> No.20017304

>>20017188
bro.....

>> No.20017310

>>20017242
i'm also considering SOLO but i just can't bring myself to believe that people will buy their little cuck 20k USD car

https://youtu.be/kqQHlO8pZXA

>> No.20017314

>>20017295
Just set your stop loss. Sell some if you need the money/taking gains otherwise hold for EoY

>> No.20017319

>>20016663

Frequently. I also kick myself for not taking positions when my instinct tells me to. Just today I missed the chance to short FSLY, sold my MSFT calls for a tiny profit too early, and decided against buying AAPL calls an hour before the end of the day.

>> No.20017321

>>20017001
unfortunately they have their own state now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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>>20017110
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>> No.20017349

>>20017177
$PLUG

>> No.20017354

>>20017310
yeah that model is gay as shit, at best its "get in on the hype" where as WKHS has real business potential. I never thought it'd go passed $12 when I bought late at $8 but w/e

i've been looking more and more into blink charging, which is focused on charging stations. looks like it's about to balloon even harder, but idk about WKHS hard. haven't finshed DD into blink though.

>> No.20017363

>>20017338
Also
>no bail
Righto, you stay in the clink until trial has concluded then.

>> No.20017371

>>20017310
It's one car tho. And Japan and other countries would eattttt those things up. Also im just trying to ride the EV meme. I think it will definitely pump even with a gay ass trike car thing

>> No.20017381

>>20017314
WKHS is dead in the water if they don't get the USPS contract imo. Their financials are pretty bad.

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>>20017321
That is assuming America isn't going to wipe Israel clean off the map (even with Samson Options America is 100x the superpower Israel is). Jews are playing a very dangerous game by just pushing and pushing the right into a corner.

>> No.20017388

i hope we get to kick a dead horse.

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>market wiping out bulls bears and penny stocktards

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>>20017188

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>>20017383
but they control our media, we have to regain control of this before the masses can be awoken to their subversion.

>> No.20017433

why did the futures stop going up

>> No.20017442
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I CAN FINALLY DAY TRADE AGAIN

>> No.20017448

>>20017371
>Japan and other countries would eattttt those things up
Potentially yes as those are the regions where smol sissy-mobiles are popular. However, a Canadian company would have considerable difficulty breaking in to those markets. Both EU and Japan have car companies who will make competing models quickly if this is truly the way the wind is blowing on EVs.

>> No.20017452

Why

>> No.20017459

How many times do you guys stress coom per day?

>> No.20017462

>>20017162
Lol can you imagine this? Then the treasury just prints money cutting the dollar into 1/4 of it's worth wiping out everyone's retirement. Hope it was worth it now we ALL get to work like slaves til we die. Now that is a redistribution of wealth

>> No.20017463

>>20017433

Don't read too much into futures this early into the evening.

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Rate my comfy overnight holdings /smg/

>> No.20017498

>>20017459
>stress coom
what's this

>>20017463
why not

>> No.20017499

>>20017433
You mean that obvious eod fomo will get wiped overnight? Imagine my surprise. That friggin reversal was incredible, I thought we were going back down to open.

>> No.20017506

>>20016320
I'm interested to hear if anyone has due diligence to reply to these. These all seem like good/important considerations

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>>20017416
People are tired of the media's shit. No Trump supporter believes them anymore (and that's at least 40% of the country) and even independents are beginning to see the obvious biases and narrative fueled reporting.

The kike mod got triggered by Lucky Larry image and deleted it for conspiracy...lol. Now this can't be a conspiracy, since its coming from DNC's nominess own mouth..is it you filthy fucking janny?

>> No.20017513

>>20017468
I see you are a man who appreciates leverage. Do you hold overnight?

>> No.20017514

>>20017498
>why not
Because futures often shift drastically when asia and europe open. Then shift again when premarket opens.

>> No.20017517

>>20017381
I completely agree but I just can't see them losing the contract. The Pence trip/psuedo endorsement sealed the deal imo.

>> No.20017520

>fb bottomed at 207
>already at 220
what a steal

>> No.20017525
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>>20017459
>>20017498
i stress coom every time i coom
its a build up u gotta cure the tense feel

>> No.20017526

Should I go all in on $LCA tomorrow at open? Or did I miss the rally? I don’t want to be left holding some faggot’s bags.

>> No.20017537

>>20017005
I already have 50 shares, so I'm wondering if I should load up more on the horsie if it dips tomorrow but I'm not sure whens a good point.

>> No.20017539

>>20017498
>why not

Futures often go back and forth all night. We've had futures drop 2% to be green by morning, or 2% up to be red by morning. There's not much you can glean until 3 or 4 in the morning Eastern.

>> No.20017552

>>20017513
Why yes, I do!
The market open is always exciting.
I have about 50% of my equity in use currently.

>> No.20017557

>>20017520

I thought about buying calls but I'm just not familiar enough with Facebook's price action or certain of its ability to recover from a barrage of bad news.

>> No.20017559

good day this week. otm put credit spreads i got on friday is about to print and covid stocks recovered.

>> No.20017577

I lost my life savings. Now what?

>> No.20017579

>>20017525
I feel more tension every time I see this webm...


>>20017539
I just want to enjoy the 10K party but they ended it very quickly

>> No.20017581

Who here mostly cash after exiting positions? I have 8500 and a desire for gains. What should I look at besides BLNK tomorrow morning

>> No.20017591

>>20017557
>noting that the boycott represents a risk to only about 5% of Facebook's revenue
>Even Procter & Gamble likely accounts for less than 0.5% of Facebook's overall revenue
Answer the call

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20017609

>>20017577
scrounge around for enough money to make the best investment of your life.

>> No.20017617

>>20017577

How did you do that?

>>20017579

What 10K party? You mean you were up on a trade by 10K? Are futures like super-options or something? Do they control more shares than normal options do? Are they leveraged some other way?

>> No.20017620

>>20017509
No worries fren I saved the image already.
To be fair I have noticed that my centrist boomer parents hate the media. I'm sure it is the general consensus. But when will something actually be done about it? How far can we go without doing anything? By then we may already be completely overpowered and/or outnumbered.

>> No.20017623

>>20017577
Put couch change on the most retarded shit imaginable and hope it pays off

>> No.20017628

>>20017617
I have a stable job and plunged 10k of my 12k into options. Got rekt. Feeling shitty now.

>> No.20017641

>>20015443
This... just 70 years ago US was looking like becoming a next great civilisation...utilising the powers of its citizens of european and asian heritage...its destiny was the stars...now its decided to fuck that all out the window and go with letting the africans and queers take the wheel to steer it all in to the garbage

>> No.20017643

>>20016663
Bro thats all I fucking think about.

>> No.20017648

>>20017617
the 10k party is how u feel when the Nasdaq futures are at 10k
it's like a good time with friends and nice drinks and snacks
and it's over (for now)
let's work together to begin the 10k party again

>> No.20017650

>>20017591

Yep. Some talking heads on CNBC were speculating that the boycotts wouldn't have much of an effect on the stock at all, and I think anyone with a brain realizes the whole thing is a stunt anyway.

I FUD myself out of trades all the time, and this was just one of them. I'll study the chart a little more and see if it's worth getting in by morning

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>>20016045
>here are people in 2020 who still believe the market isnt political

>> No.20017667

ok after pooping and thinking about the EV meme, what's stopping bigger, more traditional vehicle manufacturers from transitioning into EVs and stomping out the startups?

>> No.20017668

>>20017628

Definitely not smart to put 80%+ of your savings into a single trade. I have like 50K saved up and I get the willies even betting more than 1000 on an options play.

>> No.20017671

>>20017577
How much?

>> No.20017673

How do I short Texas? They all are gonna die from corona.

>> No.20017674

>>20016663
Yes and I've done it a couple times now. Feels v good when it works

>> No.20017676
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20017676

Pls I want to escape wageslavery.

>>20017371
Lol basically my logic with it as well. If they had an instagram whore show it off it'd probably get popular simply cause of all the beta orbiters and probably woman who look up to attractive woman that may ramp up interest. Apparently they have 2 cars that seem to actually be produced outside of the U.S., the cheap car and the sporty but expensive car. They seem to have a third but it looks like it's just a sketch at this point.

>> No.20017687

>>20017577
>itm put credit spreads on spy for faster risky money
>3-5 weeks out itm pcs and close them once it hit 50+ premium received

>> No.20017697

>>20017673
stfu nigger

>> No.20017698

>>20017650
with unemployment numbers lurking around and the brazen actions policymakers are taking paired with likely tax hikes or budget cuts, we could really end up having a true yellow vest situation in the USA. it's not going to happen until like winter or spring of next year, but it's very possible. these BLM shows are just piss in the wind.

>> No.20017704

>>20017667
A lot of them are literally doing that. Overall it's typically cheaper and easier for them to just buy out an ev company and have them handle that part of the business than to do everything from scratch.

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20017708

Why does my broker only show this information in my history?
I literally cannot find a way to lookup profit/loss.
I use IG.com. I can't trade CFDs as they cost £20/trade on average so this is just a share dealing account.

>> No.20017709

>>20017668
It wasn't on a single trade, but I kept trying to recoup my losses and I suppose that made me make riskier decisions that didn't pan out. Learned the hard way.

>> No.20017711

>>20017667
The price of oil at the moment

>> No.20017714

>>20017667
Look at ford, dont they have ev's? Seems their branding has trapped them as gas guzzlers.

>>20017674
How do you decide upon it? Is there a certain point where you cut losses?

>> No.20017717

>>20015595
Stocks are the recipients of the liquidity, so in fact only those who do not invest well lose money

>> No.20017726

>>20017188
>>20017200
Countered

>> No.20017727

>>20017667
it seems like VW is trying, but they are Germans (corrupt, incompetent, and over-regulated to the point of uselessness)

the other big car makers aren't even trying, or the cars that they're making are so bad that they might as well not even be trying really lmao

>> No.20017728

Thoughts on SOLO? Not sure if i should yolo into solo or wkhs for my next option trade

>> No.20017732

Damn, the volume on $WKHS far exceeds that of $SHLL.

>> No.20017733

>>20017697
ok, faggot. i work in the industry.
OPK will moon to 8. screenshot this. you are welcome.

>> No.20017734

>>20017717
it's been discussed enough that stocks don't fare well in high inflation environments and have failed to produce real returns. That said, past performance...

>> No.20017735

>>20015737
Truth. And yet my $2.5 7/17 puts might still print lmao

>> No.20017742

>>20017714
>Seems their branding has trapped them as gas guzzlers

At least in the truck world it’s the opposite. Ford generally has the best mpg on al sizes of truck compared to Toyota AFAIK

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>>20017591
Moshi mosh?

>>20017509
The US intelligence community knew the same shit the Israeli intelligence community knew about 9/11. Did they warn anybody? Maybe. But they did take the opportunity to stage GWB reading fucking books to children so he could appear as fatherly and endearing as possible before tricking the country into those fucking dumb wars.

You only think far enough to satisfy your bias. There’s so much more to the story.

>>20017665
oh sure, but not in the way you faggots talk.

>>20017650
That only matters when they report earnings. Until then, if enough of the market believes it matters, then it matters.

>> No.20017759

>>20017714
To be honest with you I've only done it a couple times and I caught shit on the pump. Shit I was already watching and had a gut feeling on. Did it on wkhs and set a stop loss. It triggered today so now I dont get to ride the horse anymore, but I made 80% on my whole nut so what's there to complain about

>> No.20017762

boeing and airline stocks are going to keep going up tomorrow

>> No.20017768
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Based Stallion

>> No.20017775
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20017775

How much further is this meme stock going?

>> No.20017779

>>20016045
>people with jobs are conservative and login after work
>unemployed trust fund babies are marxists
how unsurprising

>> No.20017793

>>20017310
Bet that's their entire fucking fleet and the book value is $500k max.

>> No.20017796

>>20017733
are you talking to yourself on a board with IDs?
embarrassing.

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>>20016045

>> No.20017821

>>20016045
>market closes
>anons discuss/complain about things to pass the time
Yes, you nigger. It's normal.

>> No.20017824

covid cases seems to always go down monday then rise in the week, so we probably won't break s&p 3k till wenesday at least. You have 2-3 days to prepare at most.

>> No.20017831

>>20017824
>always go down monday
and why do you think that is?

>> No.20017850

>>20016916
Hahahahahaha

"Insider TA group" is bullshit 99% of the time even with crypto meme coins. These are real markets.

WKHS is going to pull back but probably not before hitting 20+. EVs are the meme stock of choice now, look at what happened to NKLA. This one is actually fundamentally solid, unlike NKLA, and even though there's obviously fomo happening here on biz, I think we've got a ways to run before a major correction. Every dip in the last two weeks has been bought incredibly quickly

>> No.20017862

>>20017676
If Nikola can make it so can fucking anything in this clown.

>>20017667
Ford. Cadillac. They all are already

>>20017779
I've always found the opposite. Super racist constant bullshit during the day. Normal people after 6pm est.

>> No.20017870

Whoever mentioned BLNK earlier thanks, got a cool grand riding after hours.

>> No.20017884

>>20017031
Based and mexicano ay ay

>> No.20017886

>>20017815
>white very conservative
>14.88%
hmmmmmmmm

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20017893

Daily reminder to take everything said here with a pinch of salt as you are sharing this general with people who claim to believe that this car looks stupider than a Solo

>> No.20017897

>>20016663
I use robinshit so I don't get trailing stop losses otherwise I would. I will most likely go all in on every trade in my td account once I have enough to start doing some real damage.

>> No.20017900

The only thing that keeps me going during this shit roller coaster is looking at DAL's 6 month chart and seeing that 58 per looking at me..

>> No.20017910

>>20017732
Wkhs was fucking double SPY today

>> No.20017915

How is there no good stock market youtubers

>> No.20017920

>>20017893
That is fucking hideous. FUCK YOU JEW

>> No.20017924
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20017924

some of you late night /smg/posters are alright

what company do you think he's going to BTFO tomorrow?

>> No.20017961

>>20017733
no u

>> No.20017967

>>20017924
>>20017850
>>20016916

Uh-oh...

>> No.20017984

>>20017924
>>20017967
>multi-billion
>wkhs
>insider info
>TA
You must choose.

>> No.20017997

>>20016320
the question is who will get the contract for all these new USPS vehicles.

find out how the big boys are charging their workhorses, and we're golden.

also, fucking christ BLNK went up 50% after hours. shits $6 now. hope that shit dips when i have some money.

>> No.20018009

>>20017997
Is BLNK worth buying in at the dip? or is it just memeing, i would hold for a day if it kept going

>> No.20018032

>>20017924
WKHS just barely crossed the threshold over one billion today

>> No.20018036

>>20017924
nkla for sure, wkhs is not multi billion dollar

>> No.20018042

>>20018009
I bought and sold at 5.45. My gut told to me to just invest in the dip tomorrow if we get one. But I'm also looking at CLSK

>> No.20018066

>>20018036
Makes sense. Would also explain why the retweet from that literallywho.

>> No.20018073

>>20018032
Think it will eventually reach Tesla tier should they secure the contract?

>> No.20018085

>>20018066
they are the same person

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20018092

> tfw sold half my WKHS at $10 to recoup my initial investment
> tfw I'm making bank on FREE STONKS

Thank you June dump for teaching me to protect myself. Sure it sucks gimping my gains by half, but it's REALLY nice to be completely free of any hand wringing about the contract and getting bogged.

>> No.20018095

>>20018073
It’ll reach over $30 and I’ll have made 3x profit

>> No.20018097

>>20018085
nate anderson is a/the hindenburg research employee?

>> No.20018104

>>20018097
nate anderson is hindenburg himself
that's his "personal account"

>> No.20018110

>>20018066
actually my guess is NIO, wouldn't surprise me at all given its chinese. and looking at that twitter they are uncovering other crap with chinese EV startups like IDEX

>> No.20018111

>>20018092

Well done! That was a smart move. Congratulations on the gains.

>> No.20018123

>>20018110
That also makes sense.
The last piece is his comment about "wkhs"'s story. Possible (but unrelated to tomorrow's release) manipulation? Insiders fleeing the aforementioned companies and moving into wkhs?

>> No.20018124

I know charts are inconsistent predictors, but looking at Nasdaq June 24-25 next to June 26-today is almost looking at the same chart and we had a huge dump incoming. Sorry I don’t have a picture.

>> No.20018127

BLNK - goddamnit.. I could've had least 12,000 looking at me in the morning if I'd bought today.. dumped in 8500. Fucking hell man.. 20,000 will be mine by the time I hit 40 in 2.5 yrs . failure is not an option damnit.. I'll have 30,000 stuffed in the bank staring at me by my birthday one way or the other. 100,000 total networth will be cracked.

>> No.20018141

>>20018110
I couldn't believe IDEX got to 2.28 USD today.
Obvious fraud pump and dump company is obvious. I expected it to dump hard on market open but it closed +43%... my Friday YOLO worked though. Kek

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20018145

What if SOLO got a contract with Dominos? Look at how the smart car got a paint job for Dominos, idk how that affected smart car tho.

>> No.20018155

>>20018141
I was thinking of trying it and I saw it was chinese, glad i didn't

>> No.20018157

>>20018127
Fuck yeah

>> No.20018161

>>20018127

Were you the ONTX guy back in March/April talking about getting his Fat Green Bags of Cash all the time?

>> No.20018162

>>20018042
What's the clsk story

>> No.20018171

>>20018145
Those were Chevy Sparks you dumb asshole.

>> No.20018174

>>20018145
For the most part pizza places do not provide delivery vehicles to their drivers. It's not the same as a contract with postal service or courier.

>> No.20018176

>>20018092
>gimping my gains by half
Had that happen. Id by up a lot had i sold near the top early june and would be able to take bigger risks. Instead i sit here with a sub 6 figure account.

>> No.20018182

>>20018171
Ohhhh i thought that was a smart car with a dominos paint job.

>> No.20018183

>>20018124
hmmmmm this t b h
gonna take profits at market open/initial pump and watch what market does afterwards. will probably swap my bull ETFs with bear if this prediction turns out to be true cheers anon

>> No.20018191

>tesla doubters continually btfo

if tesla posts a q2 profit i expect this sub to wash my feet

>> No.20018202

>>20018155
they have had countless class actions opened against them. didn't surprise me at all that that Yates investing pnd faggot completely overlooked that in his "DD"

>> No.20018205

>>20018191
can i wash them with my tongue?

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>>20017924
So this guy thinks an picture might have been phosothopped with IDEX warehouse and he's trying to FUD it while shorting at the same time? Not doing a particularly good job

>> No.20018218

>>20018161
Yeah. I bailed once the R/S talk started. I made back my losses with TRNX before it to shat the bed. Then the virus happened. Like a gift. Delivered cheap DAL to me on a platter.

>> No.20018231

>>20018218

You're a character, I'll give you that.

>> No.20018233

>>20017924
Wait, I just remembered!
WKHS doors are ON THE WRONG SIDE!
Maybe he has a case

>> No.20018239

>>20018191

Tesla will never turn a real profit. Just "operational profit" which is after they exclude 90% of costs.

>> No.20018244

>>20018191
didn't musk say he "expected" Q2 to profit?

>>20018215
honestly Hindenburg is a spastic. I think he deliberately only trickles out information slowly or something because he missed out a lot of awful things about the company. e.g. all the class action securities fraud lawsuits from shareholders they've had in the past, all the times they've changed their name & business model, their worrying financials, their "FinTech Village" which they never even built in the end (despite taking out fat grants from the local council in exchange for creating jobs...)
It's literally just a pump and dump stock. You can see it on the chart if you zoom out.

>> No.20018249

>>20018215
IDEX confirmed they photo-shopped everything and said it was because the branding wasn't done yet. They then posted videos of the finished branding (supposedly) the next day.

>> No.20018251

>>20018233
You're so funny baggie. Holy shit, it actually gets funnier the more weeks you pretend to be retarded.

>> No.20018258

>>20017714
ford make shit cars and always made shit cars
only thing they can do right is somewhat nice looking but inefficent forms
>>20017667
vw is trying but every leading role is filled with a 60 y/o boomer that are out of touch and they have lots of deadweight like pensions they have to pay
>>20017727
>but they are Germans (corrupt, incompetent, and over-regulated to the point of uselessness)
germans are relativeley honest people really, i mean most people are lying pieces of shit but its worse in pretty much every other cunt
also not incompetent, just to many booomers that dont like new things
americans are incompetent with cars, they build horrendous shit quality
only german and east asian cars are any good

>> No.20018262

>>20018183
I wouldn’t call it a prediction because I’ve been wrong reading charts many times

>> No.20018266

>>20015443
Come to Argentina white man. Cheap whores and food.

>> No.20018272

>>20018258
>only german and east asian cars are any good
What's it like all the way back in 1983?

>> No.20018274

>>20018262
to be fair it will probably be different this time considering this is only the start of the week. those dumps were the end of the week.

>> No.20018280

>>20017815
>percantage of people who talk with psychodoctors

>> No.20018286

>>20018111
Thanks fren, really feels good.
>>20018176
"What ifs" are killer aren't they? I try not to dwell on them but I can't help it sometimes.

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>>20018258
don't you have some negative-yielding bonds to be buying, Hans?

>> No.20018300

10K in futures guy--check now! we're 0.17% up.

>> No.20018303

>>20017893
both look like crap and are shit cars

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>>20017383
>the right into a corner.
its not just the right. they push everyone in a corner. people hate the system and jews run the system. its only a matter of time before their wave crashes.

>> No.20018325

>>20017924
Another one dog-piling on chink scams perhaps?

GSX?

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>>20018293
nice jappy jap

>> No.20018334

>>20018325
no idea to be honest but whatever he says I'm shorting it to hell

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20018339

I've cucked myself 3 times in the past week.

If I had held KTOV for one more day
If I had sold AIKI during the pump
If I had held WKHS for literally one more day

f m l I'm so impatient and retarded

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20018350

is it safe to buy into QQQ and SPY yet. I want it when it's REALLY cheap. will we hit March lows again?

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20018362

>>20018300
It's time

10k party
10k party
10k party !!

>> No.20018366

>>20017924
TSLA. 100%

>> No.20018371

I want to get raped by a pack of hung niggers. Imagine a thick black BVLL cock pumping your boi pussi full of thicc cum. God i want to feel it inside of me. I want to be raped to death by fat black cocks. Let me bussi become a holy fountain of BVLL juice as i lie on the ground bleeding out from interal damage. I was born for this

>> No.20018379

why green line go up?

>> No.20018385

>>20018371
/fit/ is ---> way.

>> No.20018386

>>20018362

What brokerage do you use to trade futures, anyway? Do contracts cost an insane amount?

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20018387

>>20018362
PARTY HATS

>> No.20018389

>>20018379
that is its elemental nature. Like fire rising and earth falling

>> No.20018390

Ford screwed themselves when they fucked with the Ranger design. Just my thoughts on it. The Ranger in it's original form was perfect. They could've easy made it a 4 full size door version as it was but no. They had to gut it and redo the whole thing. Looks fucked now. Bastards.

>> No.20018392

>>20017628
Have you tried not being a fucking retard?

>> No.20018398

>>20018350
DCA over a period of 1 year if you want to be really safe.

>> No.20018399

>>20018350
>march lows
Probably not but states are already starting to rollback reopening.

>> No.20018400

>>20018366
wut

>>20018371
all the niggers with big dicks were already scouted and taken by the (((porn industry)))
good luck with the majority of black peens faggot

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>>20017667
Dude Tesla has been on the market for literally years and none of the big manufacturers are even close yet to entering the same market segment as the model S, X, or 3. Most of the offerings are either priced out of the core car buyer market segment or so laughably bad they make Teslas look like hand crafted Koenigseggs.

Tesla cars aren't even particularly quality vehicles aside from the self driving tech, they suffer from a lot of problems a startup company has like QA issues and difficulty keeping up with demand as well as parts and replacement panel availability. A lot of their success has been directly attributed to benefiting off taxpayer subsidies - although I won't neglect the marketing by Elon and his team because they've done an excellent job in that regard.

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>>20018390
More of a bronco man myself

>> No.20018409

>>20018402
Go suck cock somewhere else, like on >>>/lgbt/, faggot.

>> No.20018410

>>20018400
tsla is a ponzi.

>> No.20018411

>>20018386
You need to be a member of the Big Nose Tribe to trade futures.

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>>20018293
>bonds
>>20018272
then tell me which american car company has good build quality?
tesla is cheap shit with good software marketed as luxury
ford and general motors are complete shit and alwas have been shit

>> No.20018416

>>20018386
You can trade minis for less $$

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>>20018407
for me its the toyota camry

we love that car

>> No.20018420

>>20018410
pahahahhahah close your account and navigate to >>/x/ please

>> No.20018421

>>20018162
2020 company
Focus is on energy management.
Shit at explaining things fyi but I'll try my best.
They develop software to help with energy management and have 2 products out, mPulse which helps integrate solar, batteries, generators, etc to work for X and switchgear which I'm not sure exactly what it does. But they do plan to expand into the cannabis sector and possibly military as well. It serves as a good back up against power outages.

Anyway as of the 27th we got this: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cleanspark-announces-california-off-grid-130000433.html

And their twitter was shilling Tesla recently. I believe they're also in the finalization of closing a deal with Walmart if it hasn't already. They have a predicted value of $18 per share. Bullish, good volume.

You can read more here: https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/908772/cleanspark-developing-software-that-helps-companies-become-more-energy-efficient-908772.html

>> No.20018432

>>20017188
OHNONONONO
HORSEBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>> No.20018434

>>20018390
Tell Karens to stop increasing "safety" standards to ridiculous heights. Or invent a material 500x stronger than steel while weighing as much as a feather

>> No.20018435
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>>20018300
>>20018362
>>20018387
yayayayaya!!!

But seriously guys I'm concerned. Vix is up and 10-yr yield is down, bad signs.


>>20018371
>/pol/'s jerkoff fantasies
fuck off.
>>20018400
>thinking this much about black dick
seriously
>>>/pol/

>> No.20018441

>>20018398
why do you say a year? we may crab down for the next year? the idea of DCA is to just throw money at the market when it's up AND when it's down? I guess by your argument I might as well start now, rather than timing the market.

>> No.20018447

>>20018435
>Vix is up

Because we keep getting wild swings with every bit of bad news

>and 10-yr yield is down

For the time being, that means more money into stocks.

>> No.20018467

I owned 3 rangers. Then I switched to the corolla. Drive a 2014 model LE now. Car will outlast me considering I only drive maybe 100 miles a week (before the virus). When I owned the rangers I was putting 300 miles a week on them..

>> No.20018474

>>20018447
>Because we keep getting wild swings with every bit of bad news
nah, we keep getting bad news with all the wild swings.

>> No.20018478

>>20018339
Hang inthere bro

>> No.20018479

>>20018421
my bad, seems like they've been around for awhile. 87', but became public 2020.
And cali article is 24th*

>> No.20018482

>>20018467

This isn't /o/ buddy

>> No.20018483

>>20018467
die boomer.

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>>20018467
why would someone use a pickup truck as their main driver if they werent in conscrtuction or lawn mowing or something

to me its mentally handicap

>> No.20018493

migrate to other thread already in progress

>>20016814
>>20016814
>>20016814
>>20016814

>> No.20018496

>>20018435
dilate, kike

>> No.20018497

>>20018467
>I only drive maybe 100 miles a week
same situation, feels good
every time I'm tempted to buy some fancy expensive car, I remind myself that it would be ultra-dumb

>>20018482
>>20018483
rude

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>>20018379
Green line ONLY go up

>> No.20018511

>>20018441
The point of DCA is to attempt to capture the gains in the market while mitigating the losses by staggering investments. It reduces upside in a full-on bull market like we just had, but it also mitigates losses and maximizes gains in crabby and bearish scenarios. 1 year is because if the crash is any further than that, it will be for all intents and purposes a different crash and not the second leg of covid. We would have reached ATH across the board before then among other things. If we dump hard, you can speed up the rate at which you DCA, and slow it down again as the market is moving back up.
Ultimately you give no shits about the market's momentum, you only care about total upside over your time horizon. Getting in at $1, seeing it go down to $0.05, and then up to $10 is not as cool as getting in at $0.05, but timing such things is hardly realistic. Better get in at $0.8 average by DCAing. You don't lose that much if your DCA instead brings you to $1.2 average anyway. Your thesis being that a second leg down is likely, it's probably the optimal strategy, short of outright gambling. If you don't do that you'll either stay on the sidelines forever, or get in on a cost basis of $5 or something. Far worse gains than you could be making.

>> No.20018621

>>20018239
It’s not gonna matter. Tesla is too big to fail now. If the stock tanks it’ll cause problems.

>> No.20018879

>>20018511
thank you, very clear answer